Spider-man Vs cage best strength feat

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riv6672
One has the proportionate speed, strength and agility of a spider.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/31666/3102115-parker+2.jpg

One has steel hard skin and strength beyond belief.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122629/3643137-3470308817-33929.jpg

Technically Cage is stronger than Spidey now, or should be.
When they first started out, Cage was a 3 tonner to Spidey's 10, but the invulnerability was a difference maker in a fight.

This is a strength question though, as their stats have both amped so much over time.
Who has the best strength feats? Who really is the strongest?

DarkSaint85
Well, Cage's punches were causing seismic activity...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/114649/3492319-cage+vs+proxima+midnight.jpg

riv6672
Well yeah, but thats a striking feat, and owes to his invulnerability.
Just interested in strength feats.

carver9
Spiderman has better strength fts.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman has better strength fts.


With the exception of the above feat shown by Dark Saint, apparently, which cannot be dismissed as owing to invulnerability. Especially since that seismic activity is the aftereffect of striking each other, not the ground.

Where in the world have you seen Spider-Man pull off something like that in ANY fight?!? Invulnerability doesn't cut it as an explanation for that case.
By such reasoning, Butterball should have broken the world by now ...

riv6672
Like i said, i'm interested in strength feats (lifting, supporting, pulling, pushing...), not striking feats.
Though that feat would be great in a "who strikes harder, Cage or Iron Fist?" Thread.

DarkSaint85
Ah, OK. I always viewed striking as a by product of strength - whilst the reverse may not always be true, obviously.

So a strong guy may not necessarily have an awesome punch, but an awesome puncher will be pretty damn strong. Karate Kid, is, of course, the weirdo.

Anyway:
Carrying a truck for 7 blocks, no visible showing of fatigue
http://i.imgur.com/yINatU8.jpg

Subduing and holding Rhino, who Spiderman always acknowledges is his superior in strength:
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/ladylight/99960_Cage_319936_No09_p19_122_798l.jpg

Holding a fully loaded plan and preventing it from taking off:
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/ladylight/93851_Power_Man_and_Iron_Fist_112_-.jpg

carver9
Spiderman prevents a building from falling.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/113883/2157003-feat46strength2yb1.jpg

The building starts to tip over and Spiderman does the impossible.

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Deadpool/media/Building/Building_07.jpg.html

If anyone wants to know the size of the building...

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/2118/165981-1051078_feat46strength10equipmeyq6_super_super.jpg

riv6672
@DS85

Nice scans.
Sorry about any OP confusion.
I'm hoping Spidey gets some rep here. I know he's had to have had some good feats after his books all went to hell and i stopped following him....

Edit:
Thanks, Carver. Thats pretty cool!

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman prevents a building from falling.


Loool. Jesus. Carver, your scan specifically says:

'It's Spiderman!'

'He's holding up the building!'

'No...I'm holding up one support beam....' (emphasis mine).

So whilst yes, you are correct, he stopped it from falling - but it is hardly a great strength feat.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Loool. Jesus. Carver, your scan specifically says:

'It's Spiderman!'

'He's holding up the building!'

'No...I'm holding up one support beam....' (emphasis mine).

So whilst yes, you are correct, he stopped it from falling - but it is hardly a great strength feat.

You posted before I edited. Reread.

riv6672
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Loool. Jesus. Carver, your scan specifically says:

'It's Spiderman!'

'He's holding up the building!'

'No...I'm holding up one support beam....' (emphasis mine).

So whilst yes, you are correct, he stopped it from falling - but it is hardly a great strength feat.
Maybe its Spider-humility. Like Superman's "never been hit harder/felt such power" moments. stick out tongue

The Sorrow
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, Cage's punches were causing seismic activity...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/114649/3492319-cage+vs+proxima+midnight.jpg
/thread

carver9
Spiderman holding up a train part.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146753/2792936-spideyliftstrain15mmhi5.jpg

Also, here is evidence that the building was collapsing when Spiderman held it.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11112/111128749/3897038-5644539744-14654.jpg

zopzop
Spiderman for me too.

In Carver's defense, that wasn't the first time Spiderman held up a building. Back during the 90s, he lifted a skyscraper frame.

EDIT
Here is the scan -
http://s17.postimg.org/r20xz55ez/mongoose4.jpg

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by zopzop
Spiderman for me too.

In Carver's defense, that wasn't the first time Spiderman held up a building. Back during the 90s, he lifted a skyscraper frame.

EDIT
Here is the scan -
http://s17.postimg.org/r20xz55ez/mongoose4.jpg

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@Sorrow: The PM/Cage feat is nonadmissible.

zopzop
Darksaint, ignore my post.

It was Thor that lifted the building. SPiderman just made a support for it. I misremembered till I found the issue.

MOD can you delete my previous post?

DarkSaint85
I feel betrayed. You can still edit it though.

carver9
Hope I'm doing this right. Seems like Riv is looking for lifting, pushing, and pulling fts of strength...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107619/2098466-batman_vs_spiderman_13037.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/118094/2445996-feat15strength2dr8.jpg

zopzop
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I feel betrayed. You can still edit it though.
Can't sad

Is there a way to flag it? So a mod can delete it?

carver9
We know it was a mistake Zop. Spiderman does have another building lifting ft though...thought you were going to post the one in the river.

Think this is a good strength ft as well...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/113883/3381193-strength.jpg

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by riv6672
Well yeah, but thats a striking feat, and owes to his invulnerability.
Just interested in strength feats.
?

Still a ridic strength feat. You should specify just lifting, pushing, pulling, etc..

In any case that about finishes this thread. Spidey is severely outclassed here.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
We know it was a mistake Zop. Spiderman does have another building lifting ft though...thought you were going to post the one in the river.

Think this is a good strength ft as well...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/113883/3381193-strength.jpg
That's impressive?

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's impressive?

You don't think so? 2 of Marvel strongest feeling him move while trying to subdue him. Hellava impressive imo. It would be impressive for Cage as well.

DarkSaint85
Direct comparison:

Spidey tags Goblin, is pulled off his feet (don't forget, he sticks too). Cage grabs Spidey, and pulls him back, and Osborne off the glider:

http://img149.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-9997/loc631/77635_tenchi_pulse5_p19_122_631lo.jpg

/thread.

riv6672
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's impressive?
Good question.
Yes it is!
wink

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
You don't think so? 2 of Marvel strongest feeling him move while trying to subdue him. Hellava impressive imo. It would be impressive for Cage as well.
So If u were holding a two yr old and felt the slightest bit of pressure, you think that's impressive?

abhilegend
Cage comfortably wins in strength.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So If u were holding a two yr old and felt the slightest bit of pressure, you think that's impressive?

If I was holding a two yr old with all of my strength and I felt it, kind of but the comparison between a 2 yr old and myself vs Hulk and Thor and Spiderman is wide. You have two beings that shake planets and have abstract level fts subduing you, not some average 100 tonner. So yes, that ft is amazingly impressive. The difference is in comparison to someone like Morlun holding/subduing me but is able to feel me moving from his grip. Humans are out of the question with a ft like that.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
If I was holding a two yr old with all of my strength and I felt it, kind of but the comparison between a 2 yr old and myself vs Hulk and Thor and Spiderman is wide. You have two beings that shake planets and have abstract level fts subduing you, not some average 100 tonner. So yes, that ft is amazingly impressive. The difference is in comparison to someone like Morlun holding/subduing me but is able to feel me moving from his grip. Humans are out of the question with a ft like that.

Or Thor/Hulk were holding back massively (which should be obvious, but somehow, it has to be stated) and therefore weren't holding him all that hard.

Damborgson
Originally posted by zopzop
Spiderman for me too.

In Carver's defense, that wasn't the first time Spiderman held up a building. Back during the 90s, he lifted a skyscraper frame.

EDIT
Here is the scan -
http://s17.postimg.org/r20xz55ez/mongoose4.jpg

That would be Thor under there.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or Thor/Hulk were holding back massively (which should be obvious, but somehow, it has to be stated) and therefore weren't holding him all that hard.

Probably, but yet still impressed that they were able to feel him move. They were putting strength in holding him in place. That much is obvious to me.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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@Sorrow: The PM/Cage feat is nonadmissible.
Fair enough. I don't see why though, it's a clear display of power. Spiderman isn't matching that.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Fair enough. I don't see why though, it's a clear display of power. Spiderman isn't matching that.

Same, but OP ruled it out as a durability feat, not a strength feat*shrug*. Apparently it could be duplicated by Wolverine slamming his invulnerable adamantium claws together...

Originally posted by carver9
Probably, but yet still impressed that they were able to feel him move. They were putting strength in holding him in place. That much is obvious to me.
But not putting enough strength to stop him moving. Imagine holding a fragile baby kitten in your hand, and it starts squirming. Obviously, you are holding it in place - but at the same time, you do NOT want to crush it. If it moves...is that an impressive feat? Or is it a result of you not wanting to harm it, and thus, holding it with way less than your usual strength?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Same, but OP ruled it out as a durability feat, not a strength feat*shrug*. Apparently it could be duplicated by Wolverine slamming his invulnerable adamantium claws together...


But not putting enough strength to stop him moving. Imagine holding a fragile baby kitten in your hand, and it starts squirming. Obviously, you are holding it in place - but at the same time, you do NOT want to crush it. If it moves...is that an impressive feat? Or is it a result of you not wanting to harm it, and thus, holding it with way less than your usual strength?

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The Sorrow
Originally posted by carver9
We know it was a mistake Zop. Spiderman does have another building lifting ft though...thought you were going to post the one in the river.

Think this is a good strength ft as well...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/113883/3381193-strength.jpg
Cage recently knocked Hulk on his ass with one standing blow, Spiderman isn't doing that.

abhilegend
Even 70s cage oneshotted Rhino. Spidey isn't and shouldn't be on that level of strength. He is not a brick.

abhilegend
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Cage recently knocked Hulk on his ass with one standing blow, Spiderman isn't doing that.
Not to mention he has actual slugfest with Wonder Man, Thing and the likes. I'd be surprised if any writer will write Spidey slugging it out with those guys.

carver9
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Cage recently knocked Hulk on his ass with one standing blow, Spiderman isn't doing that.

He picked him up (off guard) and threw him. Spiderman should be able to do that.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to mention he has actual slugfest with Wonder Man, Thing and the likes. I'd be surprised if any writer will write Spidey slugging it out with those guys.

Just look at how Cage treats a charging Rhino, a guy who is stronger than Spidey....

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/36135/2903716-019.jpg

No tricks, no dodging, no agility...just 1 shot KO.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Same, but OP ruled it out as a durability feat, not a strength feat*shrug*. Apparently it could be duplicated by Wolverine slamming his invulnerable adamantium claws together...


But not putting enough strength to stop him moving. Imagine holding a fragile baby kitten in your hand, and it starts squirming. Obviously, you are holding it in place - but at the same time, you do NOT want to crush it. If it moves...is that an impressive feat? Or is it a result of you not wanting to harm it, and thus, holding it with way less than your usual strength?
laughing out loud

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carver9
Using Rhino as evidence of anything is just, how can I say it? Wrong!!!

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just look at how Cage treats a charging Rhino, a guy who is stronger than Spidey....

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/36135/2903716-019.jpg

No tricks, no dodging, no agility...just 1 shot KO.

Does anybody job harder then Rhino? sad

What's that from?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Using Rhino as evidence of anything is just, how can I say it? Wrong!!!

Has Spidey faced down a charging Rhino, and with one hit, KO'ed him? No sneak attacks, nothing, just a simple punch to the face? Or does he dodge and dive and web things up etc? Because it very much shows the strength gap.

Although, if we allow that, then the PM fight can be used...whose inadmission is, frankly, more and more nonsensical the more I think about it. Reducing it to a mere durability feat is not right.

Saying that, I HAVE shown Cage putting Rhino in a choke hold and holding him down with just his own muscle power. Does Spidey have such feats?

carver9
Sigh*... it's Rhino. He jobs sometimes. Hulk and Juggernaut has had harder times with Rhino than Cage did in that scan. Doesn't mean a thing tbh since Cage is no where near their strength. Using Rhino as evidence of anything is crazy.

DarkSaint85
Has he jobbed to Spiderman like that? That's the point I'm going for, I guess.

If not, then we finally have a limit to Rhino's jobbing. Something that is so crazy and out there, even Marvel have stepped back and said, 'woah there, Spiderman 1 hit KOing a charging Rhino is a step too far'.

And the implication of that, is, of course, that Spiderman is far below Cage, as it isn't outside the realms of weirdness for Marvel to approve him 1 shotting Rhino.

StiltmanFTW
Cage is stronger.

Spidey has better lifting feats, though.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Has he jobbed to Spiderman like that? That's the point I'm going for, I guess.

If not, then we finally have a limit to Rhino's jobbing. Something that is so crazy and out there, even Marvel have stepped back and said, 'woah there, Spiderman 1 hit KOing a charging Rhino is a step too far'.

And the implication of that, is, of course, that Spiderman is far below Cage, as it isn't outside the realms of weirdness for Marvel to approve him 1 shotting Rhino.

OMG...it's Rhino. Spiderman has never treated Rhino like this but...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111159554/4025646-9400857492-38680.jpg

Cap has dropped Rhino 3 times tmk and easily at that. Don't know why you want to resort to a Jobber to help your argument. Of course Spiderman will not drop Rhino like this because Rhino is one of his main villains.

cdtm
Spidey straight up beating Rhino down when he thought his Aunt May or Mary Jane was threatened was pretty bad jobbing, imo.

Wasn't one punch though, more like 4-5, but it was pretty bad.

Surprised no one's brought up the Firelord beat down. There's a guy who SHOULD one shot cl70 and low cl100's, and Spidey beats him so bad the internet makes a rule about it.

DarkSaint85
I used Rhino only because they've both fought him. Makes you wonder why Marvel draws the line at Spidey one shotting him....BP arm barring Surfer - APPROVED! Spidey one shotting Rhino - rejected.

Moot point really. Haven't seen a scan that supersedes the PM fight, nor Cage easily yanking Goblin where Spidey failed.

SamZED
My Spidey alarm warned me that I'm needed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, Cage's punches were causing seismic activity...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/114649/3492319-cage+vs+proxima+midnight.jpg
I agree that Cage is meant to be stronger these days but as far as feats go Spider-man can compete in most areas and even win in others. Probably due to the number of appearances.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119260/3654222-spidey+punching+feat.jpg
Punching
http://unicomics.ru/comics/online/amazing-spider-man-495/20
Seismic activity (don't mind the language)

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just look at how Cage treats a charging Rhino, a guy who is stronger than Spidey....

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/36135/2903716-019.jpg

No tricks, no dodging, no agility...just 1 shot KO.
http://www.the-isb.com/images/KICK-PWJ13.jpg
Takes down a charging Rhino with his back turned while casually chatting with Castle.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Holding a fully loaded plan and preventing it from taking off:
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/ladylight/93851_Power_Man_and_Iron_Fist_112_-.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111115653/3930006-2763055830-33811.jpg
Supports the weight of a damaged jet preventing it from crashing.

Then there's stuff like this
https://p.dreamwidth.org/3371fa539783/img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/ChrisDV/Comic%20Scans/ASM687Scan4.png
Thick carbonadium tentacles.

Trying to find a scan of him collapsing a huge warehouse while underwater. Will post it if I do.

And sure we don't see Spidey brawling with bricks (although he's shown capable of damaging most of them with his attacks) it's mostly due to his fighting style and lack in durability, unlike Cage he can't afford to duke it out with them, not that he needs to.

PS: DS, I'm not trying to start an argument btw, just wanted to back up my boy Spidey.

carver9
Originally posted by SamZED
My Spidey alarm warned me that I'm needed.


I agree that Cage is meant to be stronger these days but as far as feats go Spider-man can compete in most areas and even win in others. Probably due to the number of appearances.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119260/3654222-spidey+punching+feat.jpg
Punching
http://unicomics.ru/comics/online/amazing-spider-man-495/20
Seismic activity (don't mind the language)


http://www.the-isb.com/images/KICK-PWJ13.jpg
Takes down a charging Rhino with his back turned while casually chatting with Castle.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111115653/3930006-2763055830-33811.jpg
Supports the weight of a damaged jet preventing it from crashing.

Then there's stuff like this
https://p.dreamwidth.org/3371fa539783/img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/ChrisDV/Comic%20Scans/ASM687Scan4.png
Thick carbonadium tentacles.

Trying to find a scan of him collapsing a huge warehouse while underwater. Will post it if I do.

And sure we don't see Spidey brawling with bricks (although he's shown capable of damaging most of them with his attacks) it's mostly due to his fighting style and lack in durability, unlike Cage he can't afford to duke it out with them, not that he needs to.

PS: DS, I'm not trying to start an argument btw, just wanted to back up my boy Spidey.

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Thread.

By the way. I brought up the warehouse showing but I couldn't find it either.

abhilegend
That's not definitive by any means. That's why I don't give random feats much attention. A writer wouldn't look up previous feats if he writes who is stronger between spidey and cage.

He just has to look at the hierarchy and Cage happens to be above Pete in that.

deathslash
Originally posted by carver9
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Thread.

By the way. I brought up the warehouse showing but I couldn't find it either. sorry to tell you this carver, but the feats with Rhino and the passenger plane were back when he was still only a 3 tonner. Meanwhile, Spidey did those feats after he became a ten tonner. Not only that, but cage stopped a passenger plane that was full of people and their luggage; but spidey stopped a plane that had only two senior citizens and their luggage on it (I'm also pretty certain that the plane that peter stopped was smaller).

carver9
It's obvious Cage is stronger than Spiderman. That isn't what this thread is about. This is a ft comparison, nothing more, nothing less.

deathslash
Originally posted by carver9
It's obvious Cage is stronger than Spiderman. That isn't what this thread is about. This is a ft comparison, nothing more, nothing less. Then going by feats, wouldn't a three tonner doing this stuff be more impressive than a 10-15 tonner doing this stuff?

carver9
Originally posted by deathslash
Then going by feats, wouldn't a three tonner doing this stuff be more impressive than a 10-15 tonner doing this stuff?

Knocking out Rhino? Cap isn't a 3 tonner and he achieved those same results. It happens and if Cage has better fts in his 20+ ton yrs then this is the thread to post them in.

deathslash
Originally posted by carver9
Knocking out Rhino? Cap isn't a 3 tonner and he achieved those same results. It happens and if Cage has better fts in his 20+ ton yrs then this is the thread to post them in. Cage has knocked out rhino on three seperate occasions though. Also, you din't address the passenger plane feat.

carver9
Originally posted by deathslash
Cage has knocked out rhino on three seperate occasions though. Also, you din't address the passenger plane feat.

I still don't understand why you are bringing up Rhino though. I agree, Cage has dropped him along with a lot of other peeps below Cage and Spiderman tier. confused I'm confused right now.

Why do I need to comment on the plane ft though? It's a good ft. Has Cage done anything better since then? Riv made this thread so that we can post back and forth strength fts for both characters, not debate on who is stronger because I admitted a long time ago that Cage is stronger.

h1a8
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So If u were holding a two yr old and felt the slightest bit of pressure, you think that's impressive? no because the strength gap is supposed to be much greater from Hulk to spidey than a man to a two year old. We are probably 20 times stronger than a 2 year old. But Hulk and Thor could lift millions or more tons. If spidey is 20 times weaker then he would be lifting hundreds of thousands of tons. Plus a 2 year old wouldn't be able to move at all against you.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Using Rhino as evidence of anything is just, how can I say it? Wrong!!!

Same with Beast wink

carver9
Lol...naah, Beast have great showings.

StiltmanFTW
So does Rhino, actually... does not make him any less of a jobber, though.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by h1a8
no because the strength gap is supposed to be much greater from Hulk to spidey than a man to a two year old. We are probably 20 times stronger than a 2 year old. But Hulk and Thor could lift millions or more tons. If spidey is 20 times weaker then he would be lifting hundreds of thousands of tons. Plus a 2 year old wouldn't be able to move at all against you.
facepalm

Darksaint already gave a perfect explanation. You just made yourself look foolish.. Stop yourself now... Please.

carver9
But Beast showings are more solid though.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
But Beast showings are more solid though.

No. Just no.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/68428/2360747-1415281-capitain_america_99991_super.jpg

StiltmanFTW
Supposedly (one of) the most powerful version of Hank gets treated like nothing:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/135728/4141535-scarlet+spider+017-015.jpg

StiltmanFTW
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u30/lhuckaby/beast-robbins.jpg~original

Seriously carver, this is pointless.

Beast IS the Rhino of low-metas.

carver9
Lol...Kaine was owning everyone during that run. Don't think that's a good scan to use and him punching Beast once isn't owning.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u30/lhuckaby/beast-robbins.jpg~original

Seriously carver, this is pointless.

Beast IS the Rhino of low-metas.

Wrong thread for this. Bump a thread.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Kaine was owning everyone during that run. Don't think that's a good scan to use and him punching Beast once isn't owning.

Yes, but it's Hank who just received yet another upgrade and it didn't help him a bit.

Kaine was wrecking Beast easier than the rest - he embarrassed him twice despite Beast attacking first...

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Wrong thread for this. Bump a thread.

*SIGH*

Okay stick out tongue

DarkSaint85
I see my scan disappeared, SamZed:

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Direct comparison:

Spidey tags Goblin, is pulled off his feet (don't forget, he sticks too). Cage grabs Spidey, and pulls him back, and Osborne off the glider:

http://img149.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-9997/loc631/77635_tenchi_pulse5_p19_122_631lo.jpg

/thread.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss206/ladylight/77635_tenchi_pulse5_p19_122_631lo.jpg

Also, as you're much better than carver, have you got that gold standard for strong men, the thunderclap?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60791/2117245-1837238-luke_thunder_clap_super.png

StiltmanFTW
Yeah, was about to mention t-clap. It pretty much cements Cage being stronger.

carver9
Nice scan of Cage adding his strength to Spiderman to pull Goblin down. How strong do you have to be to thunderclap?

StiltmanFTW
That's a good question.

Class 50+? Class 70? Hard to say. Not that many can do t-claps.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Nice scan of Cage adding his strength to Spiderman to pull Goblin down. How strong do you have to be to thunderclap?

He pulled Spiderman so hard, he hurt him.

Not to mention, you can clearly see that whilst Spiderman was pulled off his feet (even though he, you know, sticks), Cage wasn't.

As for the t-clap strength level - above Spiderman's.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
(even though he, you know, sticks)

Yeah, that detail is important.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111148699/3669005-0507723588-MTU10.jpg

golem370
3 ton wrecking ball

StiltmanFTW
Is it from Roger Stern's Juggernaut story?

... I don't remember that particular scene sad Def. time to re-read.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by SamZED
My Spidey alarm warned me that I'm needed.


I agree that Cage is meant to be stronger these days but as far as feats go Spider-man can compete in most areas and even win in others. Probably due to the number of appearances.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119260/3654222-spidey+punching+feat.jpg
Punching
http://unicomics.ru/comics/online/amazing-spider-man-495/20
Seismic activity (don't mind the language)


http://www.the-isb.com/images/KICK-PWJ13.jpg
Takes down a charging Rhino with his back turned while casually chatting with Castle.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111115653/3930006-2763055830-33811.jpg
Supports the weight of a damaged jet preventing it from crashing.

Then there's stuff like this
https://p.dreamwidth.org/3371fa539783/img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/ChrisDV/Comic%20Scans/ASM687Scan4.png
Thick carbonadium tentacles.

Trying to find a scan of him collapsing a huge warehouse while underwater. Will post it if I do.

And sure we don't see Spidey brawling with bricks (although he's shown capable of damaging most of them with his attacks) it's mostly due to his fighting style and lack in durability, unlike Cage he can't afford to duke it out with them, not that he needs to.

PS: DS, I'm not trying to start an argument btw, just wanted to back up my boy Spidey.
Cage was able to open the mouth of a humongous turtle monster before Mach V pitched in(Thunderbolts #153). They were literally walking mountains. Keep in mind he had to overpower the monster's jaw muscles along with the weight. If Spidey has something better than this, I'll be shocked.

http://i60.tinypic.com/17tt3t.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/xfsspt.jpg

golem370
This one I think

golem370
or

riv6672
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So If u were holding a two yr old and felt the slightest bit of pressure, you think that's impressive?
A squirming 2 year old is no joke.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cage is stronger.

Spidey has better lifting feats, though.
Lifting feats are all i'm asking. This is getting more fight bleed over than the Cap/Batman thread, but its really interesting reading.

Originally posted by carver9
He picked him up (off guard) and threw him. Spiderman should be able to do that.
Yes he should. This is like a finger flick question from several months ago. Its moving a certain weight in a certain way.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by carver9
He picked him up (off guard) and threw him. Spiderman should be able to do that.
No, Cage looked Doc Green in the face and punched him on his ass, Spidey could never do that to Hulk under his own power.

http://abload.de/img/a1vps9t.jpg

DarkSaint85
thumb up with sufficient force to smash some metal doors as well.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
thumb up with sufficient force to smash some metal doors as well.
Indeed. Not bad from Cage, the PM showing was really impressive aswell.

carver9
Originally posted by The Sorrow
No, Cage looked Doc Green in the face and punched him on his ass, Spidey could never do that to Hulk under his own power.

http://abload.de/img/a1vps9t.jpg

Agreed. I thought he threw him but Hulk tells us Cage hit him. Good showing for Cage. This isn't a striking ft contest though. All lifting, pushing, etc...

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. I thought he threw him but Hulk tells us Cage hit him. Good showing for Cage. This isn't a striking ft contest though. All lifting, pushing, etc...
True.. So where are Spidey's best?

DarkSaint85
I can push with my fist. Really fast.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
True.. So where are Spidey's best?

Already been posted.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Already been posted.
So he lost already? That was quick..

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So he lost already? That was quick..

Lol...what's Cage best strength ft per the thread starter rules?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...what's Cage best strength ft per the thread starter rules?
Dunno, but I posted one that I doubt Spidey can replicate.

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dunno, but I posted one that I doubt Spidey can replicate.

Which ft is that? Let me go back and check.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Which ft is that? Let me go back and check.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Cage was able to open the mouth of a humongous turtle monster before Mach V pitched in(Thunderbolts #153). They were literally walking mountains. Keep in mind he had to overpower the monster's jaw muscles along with the weight. If Spidey has something better than this, I'll be shocked.

http://i60.tinypic.com/17tt3t.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/xfsspt.jpg

carver9
thumb up

Now that's a strength ft. Didn't see it when you posted it the first time (even though it's a shared ft. smile

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
thumb up

Now that's a strength ft. Didn't see it when you posted it the first time (even though it's a shared ft. smile
Just in case u missed it, he opened it at least 3 to 4 feet before Mach V pitched in. It's not shared in that sense.

DarkSaint85
Not to mention, the Goblin feat, which carver conveniently misses.

Cage pulled him so quickly, he HURT SPIDEY. Think on that a moment. Spidey was unable to react, and thus, brace his feet against Cage's hands. Considerimg his reactions, and that Spider Sense....he wasn't pulling.

Cage did what Peter couldn't, in a direct comparison of pulling strength.

SamZED
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Cage was able to open the mouth of a humongous turtle monster before Mach V pitched in(Thunderbolts #153). They were literally walking mountains. Keep in mind he had to overpower the monster's jaw muscles along with the weight. If Spidey has something better than this, I'll be shocked.

http://i60.tinypic.com/17tt3t.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/xfsspt.jpg Insane feat thumb up can't think of anything similar but IMO breaking carbonadium is up there as well in the insane feat department.

StiltmanFTW
Meh.

Warpath did the same with Demon Bear. Without help.

Deadline
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Meh.

Warpath did the same with Demon Bear. Without help.


Hahaha!. You remember that? Kinda hilarious, I recall you dying of laughter.

SamZED
What's a demon bear?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Deadline
Hahaha!. You remember that? Kinda hilarious, I recall you dying of laughter.

Yup.

Originally posted by SamZED
What's a demon bear?

This:

http://i.imgur.com/m4XOF.jpg

And if you want a serious answer... it's the New Mutants villain. Basically a giant, supernatural bear.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/1/15776/1013880-demonbear4.jpg

-K-M-
He was recently a member of the Uncanny X-Force team and possessed Bishop

DarkSaint85
Here's another.

Old-school Cage, flipping the Living Monolith:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/108504/2047994-reason_two.jpg

DarkSaint85
And....erm....picking up Unus the Untouchable, lol.

http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans11/PMIF90_vsUnus4.jpg

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by carver9
I still don't understand why you are bringing up Rhino though. I agree, Cage has dropped him along with a lot of other peeps below Cage and Spiderman tier. confused I'm confused right now.

The worst was misty knight breaking rhino's jaw

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u30/lhuckaby/beast-robbins.jpg~original

Seriously carver, this is pointless.

Beast IS the Rhino of low-metas.
Cap is no jobber but DD one-punched him in that book, and also made Hercules see stars with a shield throw confused
And also, Killer Croc is the Rhino of low metas. No wait, the Croc is the jobber supreme of low metas

riv6672
Glsd i read the new posts. Wow. laughing out loud

SamZED
I remember Spidey one-shooting a huge ass robot that was tooling Iron Man.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yup.



This:

http://i.imgur.com/m4XOF.jpg

And if you want a serious answer... it's the New Mutants villain. Basically a giant, supernatural bear.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/1/15776/1013880-demonbear4.jpg WTF???

carver9
laughing out loud

riv6672
Its kind of cute, really.

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