Speedfreak Vs. Odinson

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Ionceknewu
This is Speedfreak with his full power and Adamantium blades as he was when he fought Hulk.

zopzop
This is an awesome fight. I've always had a soft spot for Speedfreak (seeing as what happened to his sister).

If Thor tries to melee and doesn't use his weather powers, I really do see Speedfreak ending him.

ShadowFyre
Good Morning Zop. I dont remember much of Speedfreak, but assuming the Odinsons had to many beerpies and forgets his earth and storm powers, he could very well lose this match.

Anybody have the scans of him and the Hulk fight?

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by zopzop
This is an awesome fight. I've always had a soft spot for Speedfreak (seeing as what happened to his sister).

If Thor tries to melee and doesn't use his weather powers, I really do see Speedfreak ending him.

I pretty much agree with all of that.

Khazra Reborn
Thor has pretty casually hit Quicksilver, don't see why this would be much different.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Thor has pretty casually hit Quicksilver, don't see why this would be much different.

Blades, very fast blades that can cut him. Are you saying Thor is faster than the Hulk?

Khazra Reborn
He usually looks more nimble of his feet than Hulk, sure, don't know about faster.

But it still stands, Thor has definitely hit Quicksilver, I see no reason he'd have a hard time hitting Speed Freak

zopzop
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Blades, very fast blades that can cut him. Are you saying Thor is faster than the Hulk?
Not just blades, I think he has adamantium coils too. Not to mention his suit is strong enough to take direct hits from the Hulk.

He's like Quicksilver (super speed) + Iron Man (armor) + Wolverine (adamantium blades) + Omega Red (adamantium coils).

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
He usually looks more nimble of his feet than Hulk, sure, don't know about faster.

But it still stands, Thor has definitely hit Quicksilver, I see no reason he's haveva hard time hitting Speed Freak

He may well hit speedfreak, but he may get opened right up doing it. The Hulk got eviscerated.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by zopzop
Not just blades, I think he has adamantium coils too. Not to mention his suit is strong enough to take direct hits from the Hulk.

He's like Quicksilver (super speed) + Iron Man (armor) + Wolverine (adamantium blades) + Omega Red (adamantium coils).

Pretty much

Khazra Reborn
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
He may well hit speedfreak, but he may get opened right up doing it. The Hulk got eviscerated.

Sure. Doesn't mean Thor would lose. One hit from Thor's axe would be a big time game changer, where as a few stabs from Speed Freak won't slow Thor down too much.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Sure. Doesn't mean Thor would lose. One hit from Thor's axe would be a big time game changer, where as a few stabs from Speed Freak won't slow Thor down too much.

If he can eviscerate the hulk with his hide and healing factor, a few hits will leave Thor more than sore. Hulk had to put his intestines back inside him.

Surtur
How did Thor hit Quicksilver? Since remember, sometimes he falls victim to standard speedster PIS. See the feat of Hulk sticking out his arm and Quicksilver running into it..even though to him, that arm should of been moving in super slow motion.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Surtur
How did Thor hit Quicksilver? Since remember, sometimes he falls victim to standard speedster PIS. See the feat of Hulk sticking out his arm and Quicksilver running into it..even though to him, that arm should of been moving in super slow motion.

With what looked to me, IMO, as an AOE attack:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124575/3456793-7949974276-27872.jpg

Surtur
I would think that has to be an AoE ground smash going on. He quite clearly dodges the lightning and even taunts Thor about it, so Thor smashes the ground and takes him out.

celeyhyga17
Lightning ⚡ or ground shockwave 4tw.

Surtur
So any other good speed feats for Thor? I know he bullet timed quite easily and dug a bunch of trenches at blur speeds.

Blue Area Vet
Thor pounds the ground.

carver9
Bad match up foe Thor. He dies.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Bad match up foe Thor. He dies.
Thor dies even though he has ranged attacks, a haxxed axe that can cut and parry anything, and a black uru arm that can parry and pound anything. Yet he dies.

facepalm

Ionceknewu
Speed Freak can trade with the Hulk and has an adamantium armour that can withstand the Hulk hitting him. No way will hitting the ground take him out.

Thor and speed, the trenches feet is 50 odd years ago now.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Surtur
So any other good speed feats for Thor? I know he bullet timed quite easily and dug a bunch of trenches at blur speeds. He has a bunch of recent ones. Some older ones too not in the respect thread.

Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Speed Freak can trade with the Hulk and has an adamantium armour that can withstand the Hulk hitting him. No way will hitting the ground take him out.

Thor and speed, the trenches feet is 50 odd years ago now.
Thought he only has adamantium blades.

The trench feat is like from the mid 70's. stick out tongue

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He has a bunch of recent ones. Some older ones too not in the respect thread.


Thought he only has adamantium blades.

The trench feat is like from the mid 70's. stick out tongue

I think the trench is earlier because I have a reprint of it in a Marvel Pocketbook from around 1980.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I think the trench is earlier because I have a reprint of it in a Marvel Pocketbook from around 1980.
Marvel Team-up #26 1974

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Marvel Team-up #26 1974

Should have realised you were right about that as it had the Torch in so it had to be an early Marvel team up.

That said it's one of the pre Jim Shooter era Marvels and it was only when he arrived in 76 things truly improved.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Should have realised you were right about that as it had the Torch in so it had to be an early Marvel team up.

That said it's one of the pre Jim Shooter era Marvels and it was only when he arrived in 76 things truly improved.
So does Speedfreak have adamantium armor or not?

In any case having adamantium armor would not stop his flesh from getting fried.

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Speed Freak can trade with the Hulk and has an adamantium armour that can withstand the Hulk hitting him. No way will hitting the ground take him out.

Thor and speed, the trenches feet is 50 odd years ago now.

The adamantly doesn't cover all of him. When I said pound the ground, it's to destroy the terrain. He can't fly along the surface, he's not Flash. Finally, Jarnbjorn.

Surtur
If the guy has adamantium weapons that he was using to eviscerate the Hulk then he'd definitely be capable of inflicting a lot of damage to Thor. So it really would come down to speed, if he is quick enough to attack Thor several times before he can react then Thor(magic hammer or not) isn't going to survive.

What is Speedfreaks absolute best speed feat?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He has a bunch of recent ones.

Such as?

Ionceknewu
Speedfreak can sort of fly he has short range jet boots.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Surtur
If the guy has adamantium weapons that he was using to eviscerate the Hulk then he'd definitely be capable of inflicting a lot of damage to Thor. So it really would come down to speed, if he is quick enough to attack Thor several times before he can react then Thor(magic hammer or not) isn't going to survive.

What is Speedfreaks absolute best speed feat?
He can damage him sure, but Speedfreak has a shiet ton of obstacles to get through. Keep in mind the standard starting distance which is .5km. That's a little over 5 football fields. First line of defense is lightning. This is literally a one-shot if Odinson opens with it. Let's say he doesn't. Now Speedfreak has to deal with Thor's other tools. Remember unlike Hulk, Thor can fend off Speedfreak's attack with Jarnbjorn and his black uru arm. Hulk didn't have that luxury, but here Odinson has it in spades. The idea that he can easily be cut up especially at his vitals is very hard to accept. Plus he's vastly more superior in skill than Speedfreak.

Originally posted by Surtur

Such as?
For starters he's shown great reflexes and using his legs.

Mjolnirless young Thor continuously dodges "blast after blast".
http://i.imgur.com/ArF1jvB.jpg

Continuously dodges 3 meteorites with "unabated speed" that was powered by the Odinforce.
http://i.imgur.com/c5Q7eRu.jpg

He's also shown great reflexes and reaction with his arms.

Shatters his surroundings then hurls multiple fragments at his opponent by batting them away.
http://i.imgur.com/gRZUDH6.jpg

Bats away a barrage of bullets.
http://i.imgur.com/KeKA9Fc.jpg

Makes two full swings at flying debris before a speeding Gladiator reaches him.
http://i.imgur.com/7VNkVXd.jpg

Catches a tank shell with his bare hands.
http://i.imgur.com/UV4AhLf.jpg

Parries a sniper's bullet in mid-flight.
http://i.imgur.com/2NA17zx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ij4o0f.jpg

He can also cover distances with great speed.

From a distance, Thor is able to save a child who is falling off a cliff. Notice Thor is already in position to catch the child who literally just went over said cliff. Might as well call it teleportation.
laughing out loud
http://i.imgur.com/c3V3k06.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1bRwWNV.jpg

Reaches Surfer from a distance before he can fire off another blast. You see that blur with a bit of lightning at the bottom left panel? Yeah that's Thor running towards Norrin.
http://i.imgur.com/3UZyj6x.jpg

And for good measure.

He is able to perceive Skuttlebut who just blew by him. We know Skuttlebut was travelling faster than light just three pages prior.
http://i.imgur.com/ao1PZUZ.png


We know he sometimes he underperforms when going up against vastly weaker opponents that are supposedly fast, but it's not much different from someone tagging Flash, Gladz, Surfer, or any other character with tremendous speed. Now I'm not saying he is on those levels(being a speedster is not his thing after all), but the idea that Thor is a snail is just stupid and contradicts many of his on panel showings.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He can damage him sure, but Speedfreak has a shiet ton of obstacles to get through. Keep in mind the standard starting distance which is .5km. That's a little over 5 football fields. First line of defense is lightning. This is literally a one-shot if Odinson opens with it. Let's say he doesn't. Now Speedfreak has to deal with Thor's other tools. Remember unlike Hulk, Thor can fend off Speedfreak's attack with Jarnbjorn and his black uru arm. Hulk didn't have that luxury, but here Odinson has it in spades. The idea that he can easily be cut up especially at his vitals is very hard to accept. Plus he's vastly more superior in skill than Speedfreak.


For starters he's shown great reflexes and using his legs.

Mjolnirless young Thor continuously dodges "blast after blast".
http://i.imgur.com/ArF1jvB.jpg

Continuously dodges 3 meteorites with "unabated speed" that was powered by the Odinforce.
http://i.imgur.com/c5Q7eRu.jpg

He's also shown great reflexes and reaction with his arms.

Shatters his surroundings then hurls multiple fragments at his opponent by batting them away.
http://i.imgur.com/gRZUDH6.jpg

Bats away a barrage of bullets.
http://i.imgur.com/KeKA9Fc.jpg

Makes two full swings at flying debris before a speeding Gladiator reaches him.
http://i.imgur.com/7VNkVXd.jpg

Catches a tank shell with his bare hands.
http://i.imgur.com/UV4AhLf.jpg

Parries a sniper's bullet in mid-flight.
http://i.imgur.com/2NA17zx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ij4o0f.jpg

He can also cover distances with great speed.

From a distance, Thor is able to save a child who is falling off a cliff. Notice Thor is already in position to catch the child who literally just went over said cliff. Might as well call it teleportation.
laughing out loud
http://i.imgur.com/c3V3k06.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1bRwWNV.jpg

Reaches Surfer from a distance before he can fire off another blast. You see that blur with a bit of lightning at the bottom left panel? Yeah that's Thor running towards Norrin.
http://i.imgur.com/3UZyj6x.jpg

And for good measure.

He is able to perceive Skuttlebut who just blew by him. We know Skuttlebut was travelling faster than light just three pages prior.
http://i.imgur.com/ao1PZUZ.png


We know he sometimes he underperforms when going up against vastly weaker opponents that are supposedly fast, but it's not much different from someone tagging Flash, Gladz, Surfer, or any other character with tremendous speed. Now I'm not saying he is on those levels(being a speedster is not his thing after all), but the idea that Thor is a snail is just stupid and contradicts many of his on panel showings.

Do you think Thor is faster than the Hulk and yeah has speed feats like in Limbo against the shit Space Phantom through at him. Is it enough in speed? I don't see it. I don't think he is fast enough.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Do you think Thor is faster than the Hulk and yeah has speed feats like in Limbo against the shit Space Phantom through at him. Is it enough in speed? I don't see it. I don't think he is fast enough.
Fast enough to do what?

carver9
Speed freak is much faster. That's all that matters...and the guy use his speed consistently.

ShadowFyre
So when Thor creates earthquakes and massive lightning storms, hiw does speedfreak get past that? I dont think he does.

carver9
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
So when Thor creates earthquakes and massive lightning storms, hiw does speedfreak get past that? I dont think he does.

By being much faster and making it to Thor before that happens...AND CIS is on.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by carver9
By being much faster and making it to Thor before that happens...AND CIS is on.

Do you ever log off? I mean wholy shit..

carver9
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Do you ever log off? I mean wholy shit..

No!!! I'm always looking for you online.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by carver9
No!!! I'm always looking for you online.

Yea and trying to steal my signature ideas. Get your own ideas.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Speed freak is much faster. That's all that matters...and the guy use his speed consistently.
Any speed feats?

JayDaDon
I didnt realize starting distance was that far. 5k? Damn. At that distance speed freak is gonna have to work for it. Thor is just as if not more dangerous at range than he is up close.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by JayDaDon
I didnt realize starting distance was that far. 5k? Damn. At that distance speed freak is gonna have to work for it. Thor is just as if not more dangerous at range than he is up close.

I wasn't starting them at 5K is that a forum rule? I saw them 12 feet apart max at the start.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I wasn't starting them at 5K is that a forum rule? I saw them 12 feet apart max at the start.
.5k is standard

5k sounds ridiculous don't you think?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Thor has pretty casually hit Quicksilver, don't see why this would be much different.

Don't make it sound as if he actually tagged him. Ground pound did the trick.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't make it sound as if he actually tagged him. Ground pound did the trick.

thumb up

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Do you ever log off? I mean wholy shit..

laughing out loud

Blue Area Vet
Hey Carver, remember how much you love speed the next time you try to argue Hulk>Superman.

Blue Area Vet
Wake up haters, Jarnbjorn >Adamantium.

carver9
Originally posted by carver9
Speed freak is much faster. That's all that matters...and the guy use his speed consistently.

Hey Blue, read this.

celeyhyga17
Just going to ignore me Carvster? I'm beginning to think this 3rd rate speedster has nothing to go on other than slicing up Proff Hulk. Phukk 3rd rate. 4th rate..

Shiet this is hysterical.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by carver9
Hey Blue, read this.

He's not faster than the trench digging Thor, but that is such an outlier and so long ago it can really be forgotten. He is much faster than standard normal combat Thor.

DarkSaint85
Thing is....without Mjolnir, can Thor still do AS much damage as with it? I mean sure he's still super strong, but he seems less blunt force than before.

Secondly, Jarnbjorn. We know its Celestial kryptonite. What is it like against non Celestials?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thing is....without Mjolnir, can Thor still do AS much damage as with it? I mean sure he's still super strong, but he seems less blunt force than before.

Secondly, Jarnbjorn. We know its Celestial kryptonite. What is it like against non Celestials?
Huh?

DarkSaint85
Was referring to the ground pound. Without a hammer,would Thor still be able to cause that much area damage? Would he want to (as in, does he first think to cut a ***** up rather than hammering things)

My second point was asking for non Celestial Jarnbjorn feats. IfbSpeedfreak parried with adamantium, would it break? What happens?

carver9
The ax is still pretty sharp. Thor got his arm chopped off by it.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by carver9
The ax is still pretty sharp. Thor got his arm chopped off by it.

Yeah it is, I reckon Speedfreak could chop his other arm off though.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
.5k is standard

5k sounds ridiculous don't you think?

Let's have it 12 feet apart as most Superhero fights start at close distances.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
The ax is still pretty sharp. Thor got his arm chopped off by it.

Yes, true. But the scene where Thor handles Quicksilver is due to a ground pound. Which, if he no longer has the means OR the mindset to do, means that he won't be able to take Freak out.

carver9
I agree with Quicksilver showing (even though QS could avoid the ground pound since it is shockwaves traveling across the ground).

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with Quicksilver showing (even though QS could avoid the ground pound since it is shockwaves traveling across the ground).

thumb up You and me carver, against the world.

I will be Hulk, obv. You can be the Golden Man.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was referring to the ground pound. Without a hammer,would Thor still be able to cause that much area damage? Would he want to (as in, does he first think to cut a ***** up rather than hammering things)

My second point was asking for non Celestial Jarnbjorn feats. IfbSpeedfreak parried with adamantium, would it break? What happens?
Ground and pound can only go so far against Speedfreek. Dude flies. Moot point anyway. Really don't see why he can't cause significant shockwaves even without Mjolnir. Way too strong not to. Plus he still has a black uru arm he can use as a hammer in place of Mjolnir.

And yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if he outright shatters those adamantium blades. Jarnbjorn is a monster.
http://i.imgur.com/WbI1PvH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G2VAVV6.jpg

When was the last time we saw the Destroyer get outright sliced up let alone see damage? Even crazier is that Destroyer was powered by a being bordering on skyfather level.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ground and pound can only go so far against Speedfreek. Dude flies. Moot point anyway. Really don't see why he can't cause significant shockwaves even without Mjolnir. Way too strong not to. Plus he still has a black uru arm he can use as a hammer in place of Mjolnir.

And yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if he outright shatters those adamantium blades. Jarnbjorn is a monster.
http://i.imgur.com/WbI1PvH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G2VAVV6.jpg

When was the last time we saw the Destroyer get outright sliced up let alone see damage? Even crazier is that Destroyer was powered by a being bordering on skyfather level.

I don't disagree but when was the last time you saw the Hulk eviscerated?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I don't disagree but when was the last time you saw the Hulk eviscerated?
So you're just going to ignore the tools at Odinson's disposal? Tools that can specifically counter Speedfreek's weapons. Tools that Hulk lacks..
sad

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So you're just going to ignore the tools at Odinson's disposal? Tools that can specifically counter Speedfreek's weapons. Tools that Hulk lacks..
sad

No, I'm not, however, I just don't think he will land his Axe before his guts are removed in an average showing. If we take his outlier speed feats he might win, at normal speed just like hulk he's swinging at air for the most part and getting sliced and diced. Yes he has a Haxx weapon, No I don't think he can land it before Speedfreak is behind him and removing his arm and axe with it. But that's the fun of Battle boards, people disagree.

Khazra Reborn
Damn, I didn't know Thor cut the Destroyer, that's insane. Speed Freak is phucked, no question about it.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
No, I'm not, however, I just don't think he will land his Axe before his guts are removed in an average showing. If we take his outlier speed feats he might win, at normal speed just like hulk he's swinging at air for the most part and getting sliced and diced. Yes he has a Haxx weapon, No I don't think he can land it before Speedfreak is behind him and removing his arm and axe with it. But that's the fun of Battle boards, people disagree.
You don't want to get me started on his damage soak. You really don't. What are Speedfreek's best feats? How fast is he really? Also how skilled is he?

You keep asking questions, but you show nothing.. Only reason I'm even entertaining this is because I'm bored. And I'm also waiting on Carvster to actually add something of substance instead of butthurt fueled phrases.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Damn, I didn't know Thor cut the Destroyer, that's insane. Speed Freak is phucked, no question about it.
thumb up

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You don't want to get me started on his damage soak. You really don't. What are Speedfreek's best feats? How fast is he really? Also how skilled is he?

You keep asking questions, but you show nothing.. Only reason I'm even entertaining this is because I'm bored.

Fast enough to beat up on the Hulk and cut him up twice. Both times if Speedfreak hadn't been playing with the Hulk he would have won. I understand you like Thor, he's simply not a speedster though and his beating a speedster who can cut the Hulks hide.... Are you honestly saying you see Thor's skin as more durable than the Hulk? Really?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Fast enough to beat up on the Hulk and cut him up twice. Both times if Speedfreak hadn't been playing with the Hulk he would have won. I understand you like Thor, he's simply not a speedster though and his beating a speedster who can cut the Hulks hide.... Are you honestly saying you see Thor's skin as more durable than the Hulk? Really?
laughing out loud

Are you putting words in my mouth?

Again you're not answering anything.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
laughing out loud

Are you putting words in my mouth?

Again you're not answering anything.

Neither are you.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111149425/3662690-3201837-hulk%2Bfeat%2Bspeed%2Bvs%2Bspeed%2Bfreak%2B(2).png

Hulk gets disemboweled. how often do you see that?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111152047/3706245-hulk+3.jpg

Hulk has to put his guts back in

http://40.media.tumblr.com/08c7ad24523f1874a755356e642efe45/tumblr_mvc18dfov51rsus6so1_500.jpg

DarkSaint85
Tbf - I WOULD say Thor has more durability than Hulk.

Hulk, however, has an insane HF on top of his durability. So Speedfreak cutting him should be no prob - he's faster than the HF, essentially.

My personal opinion, of course.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf - I WOULD say Thor has more durability than Hulk.

Hulk, however, has an insane HF on top of his durability. So Speedfreak cutting him should be no prob - he's faster than the HF, essentially.

My personal opinion, of course. and powerful enough to penetrate the hide and fast enough to run rings round the Hulk he only loses to him through banana skin PIS twice.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf - I WOULD say Thor has more durability than Hulk.

Not against piercing attacks, though.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not against piercing attacks, though.

I thought it was all retconned to be Hulk healing faster than he was being damaged? Or am I misremembering?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought it was all retconned to be Hulk healing faster than he was being damaged? Or am I misremembering?

Kinda-sorta, but not every instance.

For example bullets always bounced off him, unlike in Thor's case.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought it was all retconned to be Hulk healing faster than he was being damaged? Or am I misremembering?

Me too

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
Neither are you.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111149425/3662690-3201837-hulk%2Bfeat%2Bspeed%2Bvs%2Bspeed%2Bfreak%2B(2).png

Hulk gets disemboweled. how often do you see that?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111152047/3706245-hulk+3.jpg

Hulk has to put his guts back in

http://40.media.tumblr.com/08c7ad24523f1874a755356e642efe45/tumblr_mvc18dfov51rsus6so1_500.jpg
What am I a parrot that I keep having to repeat myself? How does Speedfreek counter lightning? And him touching up Thor in any detrimental way is going to be significantly much tougher than touching a guy who has nothing to parry his blades with.

And let's say he cuts up Odinson. Let's say Speedfreek cuts his guts up. You think that's going to have a significant affect on him? He wades through that type of damage.

Still dangerous with his liver turned to glass.
http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/48/68/57/thor_v12.jpg

Powers through Odin's axe slash who consequently made himself 4x stronger than Thor.
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MaD0NHj.jpg

Impaled by Jarnbjorn courtesy of Apoc. Get's up like he has a paper cut.
http://i.imgur.com/3zL5gMn.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/4593984-uncanny+avengers+006-017.jpg

Not even going to post Gorr and his Annihiblade. Would be overkill.

Btw you type like Carver... Hmm...
wink3

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What am I a parrot that I keep having to repeat myself? How does Speedfreek counter lightning? And him touching up Thor in any detrimental way is going to be significantly much tougher than touching a guy who has nothing to parry his blades with.

And let's say he cuts up Odinson. Let's say Speedfreek cuts his guts up. You think that's going to have a significant affect on him? He wades through that type of damage.

Still dangerous with his liver turned to glass.
http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/17/48/68/57/thor_v12.jpg

Powers through Odin's axe slash who consequently made himself 4x stronger than Thor.
http://i.imgur.com/fuEXT2V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MaD0NHj.jpg

Impaled by Jarnbjorn courtesy of Apoc. Get's up like he has a paper cut.
http://i.imgur.com/3zL5gMn.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/4593984-uncanny+avengers+006-017.jpg

Not even going to post Gorr and his Annihiblade. Would be overkill.

Btw you type like Carver... Hmm...
wink3 I have never seen Thor eviscerated, he does not walk through this kind of stabbing attack as people have stated. Please show me him wading through his holding his intestines in. In relation to your obvious anger and taking this personally. Aw bless and calm down it's only a fictional battle between fictional characters son.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kinda-sorta, but not every instance.

For example bullets always bounced off him, unlike in Thor's case. Exactly.

Surtur
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He can damage him sure, but Speedfreak has a shiet ton of obstacles to get through. Keep in mind the standard starting distance which is .5km. That's a little over 5 football fields. First line of defense is lightning. This is literally a one-shot if Odinson opens with it. Let's say he doesn't. Now Speedfreak has to deal with Thor's other tools. Remember unlike Hulk, Thor can fend off Speedfreak's attack with Jarnbjorn and his black uru arm. Hulk didn't have that luxury, but here Odinson has it in spades. The idea that he can easily be cut up especially at his vitals is very hard to accept. Plus he's vastly more superior in skill than Speedfreak.


For starters he's shown great reflexes and using his legs.

Mjolnirless young Thor continuously dodges "blast after blast".
http://i.imgur.com/ArF1jvB.jpg

Continuously dodges 3 meteorites with "unabated speed" that was powered by the Odinforce.
http://i.imgur.com/c5Q7eRu.jpg

He's also shown great reflexes and reaction with his arms.

Shatters his surroundings then hurls multiple fragments at his opponent by batting them away.
http://i.imgur.com/gRZUDH6.jpg

Bats away a barrage of bullets.
http://i.imgur.com/KeKA9Fc.jpg

Makes two full swings at flying debris before a speeding Gladiator reaches him.
http://i.imgur.com/7VNkVXd.jpg

Catches a tank shell with his bare hands.
http://i.imgur.com/UV4AhLf.jpg

Parries a sniper's bullet in mid-flight.
http://i.imgur.com/2NA17zx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ij4o0f.jpg

He can also cover distances with great speed.

From a distance, Thor is able to save a child who is falling off a cliff. Notice Thor is already in position to catch the child who literally just went over said cliff. Might as well call it teleportation.
laughing out loud
http://i.imgur.com/c3V3k06.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1bRwWNV.jpg

Reaches Surfer from a distance before he can fire off another blast. You see that blur with a bit of lightning at the bottom left panel? Yeah that's Thor running towards Norrin.
http://i.imgur.com/3UZyj6x.jpg

And for good measure.

He is able to perceive Skuttlebut who just blew by him. We know Skuttlebut was travelling faster than light just three pages prior.
http://i.imgur.com/ao1PZUZ.png


We know he sometimes he underperforms when going up against vastly weaker opponents that are supposedly fast, but it's not much different from someone tagging Flash, Gladz, Surfer, or any other character with tremendous speed. Now I'm not saying he is on those levels(being a speedster is not his thing after all), but the idea that Thor is a snail is just stupid and contradicts many of his on panel showings.

Gladiator has already shown he is flat out faster then Thor. Gladiator adjusted to time dilation using sheer speed, Thor needed technology.

Some of the feats you posted aren't quantifiable, some impressive, and the others aren't massively impressive. People here always talk about "on average" showings, which if that is the case Thor is basically a high end bullet timer at best.

krisblaze
^Faster than masterson Thor.

So is Thor.

carver9
Thor isn't more durable than Hulk. Anyways, I went back and read Speed freak material again and even though he's fast, he wasn't untouchable and Hulk was holding back. With that said, since Thor does have a killing weapon and he should be able to tag SF, he should take this. Hulk threw the guy out of orbit with ease and SF likes to gossip and boast without taking action.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Ionceknewu
I have never seen Thor eviscerated, he does not walk through this kind of stabbing attack as people have stated. Please show me him wading through his holding his intestines in. In relation to your obvious anger and taking this personally. Aw bless and calm down it's only a fictional battle between fictional characters son.
I don't know you so I apologize if you think I'm angry at you. Your statement couldn't be further from the truth. I'm just trying get this thread moving along. Everyone who knows me here knows I never get angry about these things. I try to get animated a little because these are debating forums after all. More fun.

So anyways.. Back on topic. How is not what I posted sufficient t enough in regards to this whole eviscerating thing you keep talking about? His liver was turned to glass in one scan for crying out loud. And another one he gets impaled by a big@$$ axe and the force was provided by an incredible strong character. Dude has a history of walking through that kind of shiet. Do you need me to post his performance against Silver Surfer and two impossibly amped individuals (Hulk and Thing) all the while having a whole in his gut the size of a football? When is it enough for you?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Surtur
Gladiator has already shown he is flat out faster then Thor. Gladiator adjusted to time dilation using sheer speed, Thor needed technology.

Some of the feats you posted aren't quantifiable, some impressive, and the others aren't massively impressive. People here always talk about "on average" showings, which if that is the case Thor is basically a high end bullet timer at best.
Why are you making Gladiator a focus? I gave examples of why he will be able to contend with Speedfreek's speed.

And which ones are unquantifiable? It's not like he raced death or ran so fast he went back in time.. I think you're mistaking unquantifiable for not specifically quantified.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Thor isn't more durable than Hulk. Anyways, I went back and read Speed freak material again and even though he's fast, he wasn't untouchable and Hulk was holding back. With that said, since Thor does have a killing weapon and he should be able to tag SF, he should take this. Hulk threw the guy out of orbit with ease and SF likes to gossip and boast without taking action.
Concession accepted. thumb up

Speedfreek gets analy raped by Jarnbjorn.

Ionceknewu
Originally posted by carver9
Thor isn't more durable than Hulk. Anyways, I went back and read Speed freak material again and even though he's fast, he wasn't untouchable and Hulk was holding back. With that said, since Thor does have a killing weapon and he should be able to tag SF, he should take this. Hulk threw the guy out of orbit with ease and SF likes to gossip and boast without taking action.

Read the first fight, Hulk gets owned even more than in the second. :-)

quanchi112
Odinson.

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by quanchi112
Odinson.

This. So much nonsense on the board lately.

D-Block
Odinson ftw

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