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Where would you put him?

Around Thanos level.

Above Galactus

In between herald and trans..

Street.

In between high herald and trans

He would be around thanos

Originally posted by Genii96
In between herald and trans..

He's so over the map in the new 52. Anti-monitor needed to absorb universes to fight darkseid yet in earth 2 power girl temporally injuried his eye. Then in the next scenes he goes on stop several high heralds and even Alan Scott who was channeling all the earths in the multiverse to fight darkseid.

Half of the omega beams caught and ko'ed superman yet power girl got away. Sounds like they were just over hyping her. In darkseid'a defence I suppose he wasn't 100% in Earth 2. He's traveled the multiverse killing dozens of superman.

It really is difficult to gauge him but he is easily above high herald

Current DS high trans or boarder line low Sky Father


GDS Darkseid High Sky Father

PC Darkseid High Sky Father

How does he compare to Dr Doom in consistently badass levels? or the other way around?

Originally posted by golem370
How does he compare to Dr Doom in consistently badass levels? or the other way around? There's no comparison.

Doom is the greatest mind in the omniverse, he makes DS look like a little baby retard.

Originally posted by Mindset
he makes DS look like a little baby retard.

Reported for bashing

Originally posted by -K-M-
He's so over the map in the new 52. Anti-monitor needed to absorb universes to fight darkseid yet in earth 2 power girl temporally injuried his eye. Then in the next scenes he goes on stop several high heralds and even Alan Scott who was channeling all the earths in the multiverse to fight darkseid.

Half of the omega beams caught and ko'ed superman yet power girl got away. Sounds like they were just over hyping her. In darkseid'a defence I suppose he wasn't 100% in Earth 2. He's traveled the multiverse killing dozens of superman.

It really is difficult to gauge him but he is easily above high herald I agree with the fanboy.


DS is mid-heraldish.

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree with the fanboy.


DS is mid-heraldish.

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Around Morg level.

Current DS is high end Abstract considering that right now he has fractions of himself in every universe within the DC multiverse, waging a simultaneously occurring omniverse wide war.

1. It has been shown that the Anti-Monitor required the power of multiple universes just to contend with Darkseid.

2. A fraction of Darkseid (stated by highfather himself) was more powerful than the Multiversal Green, which was using Alan Scott as a host during the fight.

3. Darkseid's power was to such an extent that his hand was able to rend the multiverse and destroy a universe with its presence (John Constantine).

We have been told that no one has seen the true form of Darkseid yet, and that all we have seen to the current issue are fractions of himself operating simultaneously across the multiverse.

Oh Grant Morrison. Just wish someone would actually use his stories as basis and run with it (see final crisis/death of the new gods/countdown)

Originally posted by Board Walker
Current DS is high end Abstract considering that right now he has fractions of himself in every universe within the DC multiverse, waging a simultaneously occurring omniverse wide war.

1. It has been shown that the Anti-Monitor required the power of multiple universes just to contend with Darkseid.

2. A fraction of Darkseid (stated by highfather himself) was more powerful than the Multiversal Green, which was using Alan Scott as a host during the fight.

3. Darkseid's power was to such an extent that his hand was able to rend the multiverse and destroy a universe with its presence (John Constantine).

We have been told that no one has seen the true form of Darkseid yet, and that all we have seen to the current issue are fractions of himself operating simultaneously across the multiverse.



I change my vote.

Above LT and the Beyonders.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Street.

Below street.

Harmless supporting character, like Jarvis or Ben Urich.

Originally posted by Mindset
There's no comparison.

Doom is the greatest mind in the omniverse, he makes DS look like a little baby retard.

Not true! Doom does have a great mind but not omnipotent! He is a villain that is a world threat but not on a universal scale. If your talking omnipotent thought process then you look to no other than Marvel's One Above All or DC's The Source having the greatest minds & power of both universe's.

Originally posted by -K-M-
He's so over the map in the new 52. Anti-monitor needed to absorb universes to fight darkseid yet in earth 2 power girl temporally injuried his eye. Then in the next scenes he goes on stop several high heralds and even Alan Scott who was channeling all the earths in the multiverse to fight darkseid.

Half of the omega beams caught and ko'ed superman yet power girl got away. Sounds like they were just over hyping her. In darkseid'a defence I suppose he wasn't 100% in Earth 2. He's traveled the multiverse killing dozens of superman.

It really is difficult to gauge him but he is easily above high herald

It's more of that true Darkseid vs his Avatar mess. DC should just give him a base level and be done with it.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Current DS is high end Abstract considering that right now he has fractions of himself in every universe within the DC multiverse, waging a simultaneously occurring omniverse wide war.

1. It has been shown that the Anti-Monitor required the power of multiple universes just to contend with Darkseid.

2. A fraction of Darkseid (stated by highfather himself) was more powerful than the Multiversal Green, which was using Alan Scott as a host during the fight.

3. Darkseid's power was to such an extent that his hand was able to rend the multiverse and destroy a universe with its presence (John Constantine).

We have been told that no one has seen the true form of Darkseid yet, and that all we have seen to the current issue are fractions of himself operating simultaneously across the multiverse.

People forget about the Morrison stuff. True Darkeid is abstract.

The avatar concept isn't new and was around with the pre52 darkseid.

If we go by his space cheese feats, he's around abstract level. If we go by his fights, he's high trans or low skyfather level. I'm pretty sure that his space cheese feats were performed by his true form and his fights were performed by his avatar. I believe that this claim is given credibility by highfather's statement about the new gods being fractured among the alternate realities and the reappearance of steppenwolf (even though brutaal killed him).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reported for bashing I stand by every word.

Originally posted by jswilliams6693
Not true! Doom does have a great mind but not omnipotent! He is a villain that is a world threat but not on a universal scale. If your talking omnipotent thought process then you look to no other than Marvel's One Above All or DC's The Source having the greatest minds & power of both universe's. Doom is above omnipotent beings.

Originally posted by Mindset
Doom is above omnipotent beings. and yet he gets his ass kicked by Luke cage, squirrel girl, and occasionally Reed richards.

Originally posted by deathslash
and yet he gets his ass kicked by Luke cage, squirrel girl, and occasionally Reed richards. Doombots.

Get mad.

Originally posted by Mindset
Doombots.

Get mad. unless stated otherwise, it actually happened. Doom's a chump and he's so afraid of the characters that I mentioned that he didn't dare bring them back when he remade the universe.

Originally posted by deathslash
unless stated otherwise, it actually happened. Doom's a chump and he's so afraid of the characters that I mentioned that he didn't dare bring them back when he remade the universe. Yea, they happened to Doombots.

Get furious.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Above Galactus

Bwahahaha... Not even according to DC in it's crossover. In fact, a STARVING galactus one shot him. DS is below Thanos' level.. so not even close.

Darkseid is skyfather.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Bwahahaha... Not even according to DC in it's crossover. In fact, a STARVING galactus one shot him. DS is below Thanos' level.. so not even close. Kyle Rayner beat Thanos.
So Thanos is less than Green Lantern, right?
Oh. And he was a rookie at the time.

Originally posted by Juntai
Kyle Rayner beat Thanos.
So Thanos is less than Green Lantern, right?
Oh. And he was a rookie at the time. Kyle is a Doom level character.

Of course he beat Thanos.

Originally posted by Mindset
Kyle is a Doom level character.

Of course he beat Thanos. Fair enough.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Current DS is high end Abstract considering that right now he has fractions of himself in every universe within the DC multiverse, waging a simultaneously occurring omniverse wide war.

1. It has been shown that the Anti-Monitor required the power of multiple universes just to contend with Darkseid.

2. A fraction of Darkseid (stated by highfather himself) was more powerful than the Multiversal Green, which was using Alan Scott as a host during the fight.

3. Darkseid's power was to such an extent that his hand was able to rend the multiverse and destroy a universe with its presence (John Constantine).

We have been told that no one has seen the true form of Darkseid yet, and that all we have seen to the current issue are fractions of himself operating simultaneously across the multiverse.

All that space cheese and he's still not an interesting character

Originally posted by Board Walker
Current DS is high end Abstract considering that right now he has fractions of himself in every universe within the DC multiverse, waging a simultaneously occurring omniverse wide war.

1. It has been shown that the Anti-Monitor required the power of multiple universes just to contend with Darkseid.

2. A fraction of Darkseid (stated by highfather himself) was more powerful than the Multiversal Green, which was using Alan Scott as a host during the fight.

3. Darkseid's power was to such an extent that his hand was able to rend the multiverse and destroy a universe with its presence (John Constantine).

We have been told that no one has seen the true form of Darkseid yet, and that all we have seen to the current issue are fractions of himself operating simultaneously across the multiverse. Even prior to that in pre-52 he was using avatars in much the same way.


He also created Stayne out of his giant cosmic fist, as an exact opposite of Takion.
http://imgur.com/a/vDvLW

Look at the fight between them.
http://imgur.com/a/Ze2Cn

He increases the magnetic fields between Stayne and the planet and tackles into her and they crash into it like a meteor.

A moment later he decides to change the scenery and teleports them all the way to the Source wall at the edge of the universe with a thought.

Feels the ripples of change surging across the universe.

Stops time around Hjssua and teleports him back to his home planet.
When they collide they tear though the fabric of the universe and tumble through the void, still in combat.

Then they teleport back to Earth. But not because he wanted to go to Earth, because he wanted to be brought to the Source. His power works by will, even if he doesn't know/do something consciously. He just alters reality on a whim.

Turns Stayne to antimatter. She reforms.

Atomizes Stayne. She reforms.



Here shows his cosmic awareness of events across the universe and across time all at once.
He also accidentally lets Nancy hear the Narration box of his cosmic awareness.
http://i.imgur.com/j87akMa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gEhjYWI.jpg
Takion's profile says Takion has virtual omnipotence, virtual omniscience, a being of limitless power.

Exists in the past, present and future simultaneously.
http://imgur.com/a/2eQRW



These are beings that Darkseid and Highfather created as avatars.


Darkseid falling after losing to The Source landed in the third dimension and cracked time/space.



Thanos and those characters don't operate at the level of Darkseid and Highfather.

Darkseid's vision and influence is far beyond the Monitors.
He was puppet mastering the entire multiverses, even leading up to death of the New Gods and Final Crisis.
Tells one of them "I am a god. I see everything."
Sees all the events happening across reality.
http://imgur.com/a/jSdYW

http://imgur.com/a/PPkWF
Darkseid was the creator of the original spirit of wrath, Eclipso.

One of Darkseid's weapons is a promethean giant.
http://i.imgur.com/b7uozxi.jpg

Darkseid captured the entire greek pantheon.
http://i.imgur.com/fhvCW2P.jpg

Not even the Olympian gods could penetrate Darkseid's fortress.
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ndy0e.jpg

The Lords of Order and Chaos are scared of him.
http://i.imgur.com/Jy1qH1W.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u09gduR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BUZLRSF.jpg


With the Omega Force, Darkseid has the power of life and death itself.
He can wipe others from existence, send them into a never ending hell, and has also shown the ability to raise other characters from the dead on a whim. Even regenerated his entire army with a thought.

Death happens only when he chooses to grant it.
http://i.imgur.com/GUQJ64a.jpg

Juntai you could have just posted a link to my respect thread for him. Gosh!

Originally posted by -K-M-
Juntai you could have just posted a link to my respect thread for him. Gosh! Probably would have been easier.


You can also check King Mungi's respect thread for more feats!

Thanks for all the info, Juntai!

You should make a respect thread for him since no one else has.

Originally posted by -K-M-
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Would is role in the DC continuum be transplanted to Marvel or do we base his role in DC based on powers and feats?

This Darkseid looks like an interesting character. Maybe I should've drafted him for the Low Herald tourney.

Darkseid's removal from the timeline destroyed entire existence too.

And that was because he was so powerful.

So above Galactus level, give or take a few Thanoses.

I think it'd be interesting to see PC Darkseid in Marvel. I'd like to see him beat down Thanos.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think it'd be interesting to see PC Darkseid in Marvel. I'd like to see him beat down Thanos.

Well Pre Crisis was never really a fighter, not that he can't fight. He was more of a manipulative bastard.

Originally posted by SquallX
Well Pre Crisis was never really a fighter, not that he can't fight. He was more of a manipulative bastard.

Yeah but didn't he back hand Mon'el into a coma? He doesn't need much fighting skill if he is strong enough to do that.

yes he did put him in a coma....and with ease

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/lsh-v2-292-06.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/lsh-v2-292-07.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/lsh-v2-293-02.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/lsh-v2-293-04.jpg

Darkseid is also responsible for the creation of Silver-Age Validus as well

Okay so that is probably the most bad ass Darkseid moment ever.

Mon El is whimpering like a baby all "oh my god! you..you are.." and Darkseid just says "Power."

Mon El can't even get KO'ed without acting like a b*tch.