Superman Prime(GA) VERSUS ODIN

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LordofBrooklyn
Superman Prime

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11124/111241030/4732657-4697377-4648932695-super.jpg

VERSUS

ODIN

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140703113844/avengersalliance/images/a/a7/Odin_Dialogue.png

Board Walker
Prime absolutely stomps odin.

Prime who is immune to magic, and stomped mr mxy, would slaughter odin.

Cogito
This Prime was an act of horrible writing. But frankly, if Mxy's magic (and Mxy 5D imps aren't even supposed to be using magic - they use advanced 5D tech; poor continuity writing) coudln't hurt Prime, then Odin has no chance with magic

Mr Master
^^ Perhaps Odin can use his universal manipulating capabilities:

http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/24101798_Odin.jpg

Cogito
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ Perhaps Odin can use his universal manipulating capabilities:

http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/24101798_Odin.jpg

Which is presumably magic...

Prof. T.C McAbe
Superboy Prime doesn't need th GA to make this a fight, as seen by his immunity against attacks from Modru. With the GA it becomes spite.

Adam Grimes
Prime busts his chest open.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ Perhaps Odin can use his universal manipulating capabilities:

http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/24101798_Odin.jpg

Odin just needs his BFG.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/4654083-odinbullets.jpg

Prof. T.C McAbe
Odin should take Mjolnir with him

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/wox65gvz26wgjljsc6gm.png


Oh, forget it.

the Darkone
Odin vastly superior, odinforce is mystical and cosmic in nature, with no pis involve he rage stomps the cry baby

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Cogito
This Prime was an act of horrible writing.

The GA Superman Prime arc was a MASTERWORK!!!

I grow weary of your insults against The House of El!

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by the Darkone
Odin vastly superior, odinforce is mystical and cosmic in nature, with no pis involve he rage stomps the cry baby

Can you quantify the amount of Odin's power that is "MYSTICAL " in nature as opposed to "COSMIC "?

Digi
So straight-up magic may be blunted against SMP. But if Odin just amps himself magically, the doesn't matter if his physical stats are magical in nature or not. A punch is a punch. Or, like the weird Galactus fight, a headbutt.

Because of the magic immunity, I actually think this is an interesting fight. I believe Odin to have more power overall, but the nature of some of it may handicap him against SMP. Both have a couple feats that aren't quantifiable and/or are heavily open to interpretation. And both are established team-wrecking Trans.-level or higher on their worst day. So I could see this going either way.

zopzop
SMP wins.

Odin's only hope is BFR.

Magnon
Vote SMP.

Insane Titan
More Superfans lying again. Prime didn't stomp Mxy at all, and lol at comparing one half assed blast from A magic user to how Odins power works

the Darkone
Originally posted by Cogito
This Prime was an act of horrible writing. But frankly, if Mxy's magic (and Mxy 5D imps aren't even supposed to be using magic - they use advanced 5D tech; poor continuity writing) coudln't hurt Prime, then Odin has no chance with magic

Pretty much, it was such PIS I was like WTF!

Cogito
Originally posted by Insane Titan
More Superfans lying again. Prime didn't stomp Mxy at all, and lol at comparing one half assed blast from A magic user to how Odins power works

Mxy literally shat his pants.

Plus, the whole Mordru thing after Mordru had absorbed the magic of a whole universe, iirc. And that was just regular Prime.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The GA Superman Prime arc was a MASTERWORK!!!

I grow weary of your insults against The House of El!

Meh, you inducted me into the House of El, but the recent Superwankfest has left me disheartened.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Cogito
Meh, you inducted me into the House of El, but the recent Superwankfest has left me disheartened.

Do not lose heart, brother!

I ABSOLVE you of any past offenses.

There are many clans out there in need of humbling. Attacking some Gammites and Thor Corps members should bolster your spirits!

Prof. T.C McAbe
It's not wanking it's telling the truth for once. People like Odin, Sentry and Hulk are wanked beyond anything else from DC, since years, and they don't deserve it, truth be told. Time to change this.

abhilegend
Prime. Easily.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Insane Titan
More Superfans lying again. Prime didn't stomp Mxy at all, and lol at comparing one half assed blast from A magic user to how Odins power works

"Half assed blast from a magic user"

I absolutely love how brazen you are in displaying your ignorance.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Cogito
Mxy literally shat his pants.

Plus, the whole Mordru thing after Mordru had absorbed the magic of a whole universe, iirc. And that was just regular Prime.



Meh, you inducted me into the House of El, but the recent Superwankfest has left me disheartened. his will was being drained once he broke free he even admitted he could easily gone back and turned SMP inside out.

And, lol you're acting like he used all that power on prime.

iceman24567
Edge to Prime

Cogito
Originally posted by Insane Titan
his will was being drained once he broke free he even admitted he could easily gone back and turned SMP inside out.
Scans?


Originally posted by Insane Titan
And, lol you're acting like he used all that power on prime. Scans showing that he was withholding all that power for lulz?

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Cogito
Scans?


Scans showing that he was withholding all that power for lulz? you need scans? See you haven't actually read the comic lol typical.

You think all that power could only produce a little energy blast!!

Cogito
Originally posted by Insane Titan
you need scans? See you haven't actually read the comic lol typical. I have, but it's been a while and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Can you produce the scans or not?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
You think all that power could only produce a little energy blast!! Scans or it didn't happen. Power ≠ size of explosion

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Cogito
I have, but it's been a while and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Can you produce the scans or not?

Scans or it didn't happen. Power ≠ size of explosion if you had read it you wouldn't need the scan especially when you was "putting me right"

There was no explosion at all, plead dumb if that helps you.

Cogito
Originally posted by Insane Titan
if you had read it you wouldn't need the scan especially when you was "putting me right"

There was no explosion at all, plead dumb if that helps you.

Ah, you're right. And then you're also completely wrong.

Mxy: "if I was up to it, I'd go back there and turn psycho Super-yutz inside out."

Key words - "if I was up to it". As in, "I just got the shit beaten out of me, so I'm not up to it, but if I could I would."

Clearly you missed the prior page:
Mxy (to Annataz): "Come with me before he decides we're worth killing after all!"

Context.

carver9
Lol...Mxy had a spell placed on him BEFORE facing Prime that hindered his power. Let's get that showing right you all. Anyways, Odin stomps. Thanos couldn't even harm Odin. Prime is doing nothing.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Mxy had a spell placed on him BEFORE facing Prime that hindered his power. Let's get that showing right you all. Anyways, Odin stomps. Thanos couldn't even harm Odin. Prime is doing nothing.

You have ONE , I repeat, ONE , more post of this kind before....

YOU ARE PLACED ON THE HOUSE OF EL ENEMIES LIST!!

Cogito
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Mxy had a spell placed on him BEFORE facing Prime that hindered his power. Let's get that showing right you all. Anyways, Odin stomps. Thanos couldn't even harm Odin. Prime is doing nothing.

False.

1. Prime busted into the 5th dimension and pulled Mxy back to the third, and did so under his own power (off panel).

2. Let's set the scene:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-09_zps6eokzcsf.jpg

Prime has been torturing Annataz, and she's totally broken. He approaches her, and she speaks the spell "no magic for imp" because she doesn't want Prime to torture her. Prime knows better, though:

Prime to Annataz: "You keep saying stuff, but you aren't doing anything but keeping that Mix- that imp here."

Prime to Mxy: "Her magic's not as powerful as yours"

So, Annataz wasn't doing anything to depower Mxy. That much was a ruse she tried to get out of torture. In fact, she isn't powerful enough to depower Mxy. Prime says it, nobody denies it.

3. Mxy gets stabbed by a spike and Prime believes him dead. Only, Mxy pops back up without a hole in him. Mxy is clearly capable of using magic.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-27_zps5ernudlm.jpg

4. Back to Insane Titan - here's your scans:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-28_zpszd6ql9dh.jpg http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-29_zpsrlyz4gfp.jpg

First Page:
Mxy: "Come with me before he decides we're worth killing after all!"

Second Page:
Mxy: If I was up to it, I'd go back there and turn Super-yutz inside out. But sometimes even the trickster god comes out a loser...and the only trick he has left is a fast exit

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Cogito
False.

1. Prime busted into the 5th dimension and pulled Mxy back to the third, and did so under his own power (off panel).

2. Let's set the scene:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-09_zps6eokzcsf.jpg

Prime has been torturing Annataz, and she's totally broken. He approaches her, and she speaks the spell "no magic for imp" because she doesn't want Prime to torture her. Prime knows better, though:

Prime to Annataz: "You keep saying stuff, but you aren't doing anything but keeping that Mix- that imp here."

Prime to Mxy: "Her magic's not as powerful as yours"

So, Annataz wasn't doing anything to depower Mxy. That much was a ruse she tried to get out of torture. In fact, she isn't powerful enough to depower Mxy. Prime says it, nobody denies it.

3. Mxy gets stabbed by a spike and Prime believes him dead. Only, Mxy pops back up without a hole in him. Mxy is clearly capable of using magic.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-27_zps5ernudlm.jpg

4. Back to Insane Titan - here's your scans:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-28_zpszd6ql9dh.jpg http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-29_zpsrlyz4gfp.jpg

First Page:
Mxy: "Come with me before he decides we're worth killing after all!"

Second Page:
Mxy: If I was up to it, I'd go back there and turn Super-yutz inside out. But sometimes even the trickster god comes out a loser...and the only trick he has left is a fast exit

You have redeemed yourself from your moment of doubt, brother!

Cogito
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You have redeemed yourself from your moment of doubt, brother!

It's still up there with the worst, most inconsistent writing I've ever seen.

meep-meep
Originally posted by Cogito
False.

1. Prime busted into the 5th dimension and pulled Mxy back to the third, and did so under his own power (off panel).

2. Let's set the scene:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-09_zps6eokzcsf.jpg

Prime has been torturing Annataz, and she's totally broken. He approaches her, and she speaks the spell "no magic for imp" because she doesn't want Prime to torture her. Prime knows better, though:

Prime to Annataz: "You keep saying stuff, but you aren't doing anything but keeping that Mix- that imp here."

Prime to Mxy: "Her magic's not as powerful as yours"

So, Annataz wasn't doing anything to depower Mxy. That much was a ruse she tried to get out of torture. In fact, she isn't powerful enough to depower Mxy. Prime says it, nobody denies it.

3. Mxy gets stabbed by a spike and Prime believes him dead. Only, Mxy pops back up without a hole in him. Mxy is clearly capable of using magic.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-27_zps5ernudlm.jpg

4. Back to Insane Titan - here's your scans:

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-28_zpszd6ql9dh.jpg http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb378/CogitoXP/th_Countdown%20to%20Final%20Crisis%2023-29_zpsrlyz4gfp.jpg

First Page:
Mxy: "Come with me before he decides we're worth killing after all!"

Second Page:
Mxy: If I was up to it, I'd go back there and turn Super-yutz inside out. But sometimes even the trickster god comes out a loser...and the only trick he has left is a fast exit

Not saying your wrong with you're final point but in your 3rd scan it appears Annataz does return some of myx power. So, it seems he was depowered. After he regained it he was quick to leave though.

Rage.Of.Olympus
It's been a while since I read Countdown but IIRC the alternate Zatanna was the reason Prime could keep Mxy prisoner and torture him.

IIRC, there's even a scene where she outright says to her hat to return Mxy's magic to him and it was then that he escaped.

I think the intention was pretty clear and Imps for all of their power have on occasion suffered from strange restrictions. Prime is powerful but he's not beating Odin because he was more powerful than Mxy as there was a serious asterisk to that encounter, much less one who could destroy Universes or whatever (Because at that level I don't think any mage could do shit to him).

LordofBrooklyn
If MXY were at full power during his escape why didn't he seek vengeance against Superman Prime?

meep-meep
Not sure. If he regained his full power you'd think he would have at least put a shirt on and cleaned up his face. Maybe he didn't regain it all or Supes just put such a massive beating on him that he need to time lick his wounds.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Cogito
Ah, you're right. And then you're also completely wrong.

Mxy: "if I was up to it, I'd go back there and turn psycho Super-yutz inside out."

Key words - "if I was up to it". As in, "I just got the shit beaten out of me, so I'm not up to it, but if I could I would."

Clearly you missed the prior page:
Mxy (to Annataz): "Come with me before he decides we're worth killing after all!"

Context. he was under a spell which was making him weak and sapping his will, so yeah context. You should learn about it.

abhilegend
laughing out loud

As if capturing Mxy effortlessly like Prime did after punching to fifth dimension isn't impressive enough.

zopzop
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's been a while since I read Countdown but IIRC the alternate Zatanna was the reason Prime could keep Mxy prisoner and torture him.

IIRC, there's even a scene where she outright says to her hat to return Mxy's magic to him and it was then that he escaped.

I think the intention was pretty clear and Imps for all of their power have on occasion suffered from strange restrictions. Prime is powerful but he's not beating Odin because he was more powerful than Mxy as there was a serious asterisk to that encounter, much less one who could destroy Universes or whatever (Because at that level I don't think any mage could do shit to him).
http://s9.postimg.org/eqs3iyzen/f67.png

PS wb big grin

Cogito
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's been a while since I read Countdown but IIRC the alternate Zatanna was the reason Prime could keep Mxy prisoner and torture him.

IIRC, there's even a scene where she outright says to her hat to return Mxy's magic to him and it was then that he escaped.

Both of those scenes are in the scans I posted. In the first, Prime says Annataz specifically isn't depowering Mxy.

In the third scan, she says "magic return to imp", but then we don't see Mxy use magic after that. Annataz is the one who uses hers to send him home.

Haters (myself most definitely included) can hate all they want, but there's two undeniable facts among the vagueness:
1. Prime busted into the 5th dimension and took Mxy under his own power. Immense, immense feat.
2. Even after Mxy's power was returned (if it was ever taken - blame shitty writing), he was still afraid Prime was going to kill him if he didn't run away immediately.

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