Speed feats for Jedi?

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



The Merchant
A thread where we can all post showings related to speed in the SW Universe. An example would be Aryn Leneer, who was able to amplify her reaction time in the Milliseconds. Comparable to that would be Anakin Skywalker, who in a dog-fight also increased his reaction time to be in the Milliseconds. Darth Bane's reactions was in the Microseconds, and finally Grandmaster Luke Skywalker had a reaction time in the Nanoseconds. Anything else worth noting?

DarthAnt66
"Revan moved his lightsaber in a blur." --TOR:R

The Merchant
I would prefer more quantifiable speed feat showings tbh, those are a bit hard to quantify. Things like "Weaving a hard light" I mean.

DarthAnt66
"Revan ran really fast." --TOR:R

The Merchant
"Revan's2fast4u" --TOR:R

The Merchant
Anyways I guess a solid high-mid tier Jedi should have Millisecond reaction time, High tiers should have microsecond reaction time to reaching relativistic speeds (If you take the statements made in the ROTS Novelization at face value) to top tiers having Nanosecond reactions time, which is faster than even the speed of Light.

Sinious
There is absolutely no reason to believe they are that fast.

The Merchant
But why not? The narration states that's what their reaction time is. Although I would like to note how interesting is to see a boards different opinion on this. On other boards your generic Jedi has lightspeed reaction times. On others not even GM Luke is Supersonic.

Ziku
Can someone provide the quote where supposedly Luke and Abeloth fought so fast that nanoseconds were slow for them? All I remember is Luke processing a thought in barely a nanosecond.

The Merchant
That was pretty much it actually.

The Merchant
My love, we never talk anymore. Luke when he felt the Dovin Basal registered it in Nanoseconds. In his fight with Abeloth a Nanosecond barely passed when Luke dodged an attack from her, and then there was another nanosecond feat, I just don't remember it. So he has Lightspeed combat speeds. Bane can be scaled to other high tier Sith with his Microsecond reaction feats, which puts him and others at sub relativistic.

WildBantha88
Ferus Olin experienced time in microseconds

EDIT: better yet is that Vader was speed blitzing him while he was moving that fast

Zenwolf
One thing is for sure, a Force User generally should be far faster than a regular being considering how they have inherent superhuman abilities.

FreshestSlice
Them moving faster really isn't in question, but the moving at hypersonic speed shit is kind of dumb.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Them moving faster really isn't in question, but the moving at hypersonic speed shit is kind of dumb.

Why? Although moving at such a speed does sound wonky, so more or less I can agree, but for the bigger names it's not dumb.

The precog however, should be more easier to understand. So in that sense, the general Force User should be able to see things move at such speeds, but they necessarily don't have to have the speed to avoid or react to it.

FreshestSlice
It's dumb because these same Force struggle with muggles. There's no rhyme or reason to any of it.

WildBantha88
Originally posted by JackTheMan
the window is calling bantha didn't you get banned for spamming the site with porn or something?

WildBantha88
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It's dumb because these same Force struggle with muggles. There's no rhyme or reason to any of it. considering that the standard weapon thugs carry are hypersonic its understandable that a Jedi would have some trouble dealing with a bunch of them.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It's dumb because these same Force struggle with muggles. There's no rhyme or reason to any of it.

Jedi only struggle because they essentially go for not wanting to kill, Sith usually get cocky or there are just overwhelming numbers, or the said Non-Sensitives have something in their favor that give an edge be it prep or tech related.

There's also being unorthodox with methods too.

Which then these Non-Force Sensitives would be above your average guy if they have access to such things, let's not compare every single Non-Sensitive being to a thug here.

Also of course, sometimes plot too.

FreshestSlice
Yeah, I'm sure Maul was holding back against Vizla.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yeah, I'm sure Maul was holding back against Vizla.

He was, he opted for martial combat only, holding back the use of his Force prowess. Whereas Vizla used everything he had.

FreshestSlice
Until he used Force powers that had zero martial use. I'm also sure Jedi would rather let people die than use their amazing speed to catch them. It couldn't just be that none of this at all.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Until he used Force powers that had zero martial use. I'm also sure Jedi would rather let people die than use their amazing speed to catch them. It couldn't just be that none of this at all.

Which were what powers? He didn't use any TK abilities, he just used his martial abilities and some precog. Hardly anything big compared to what Vizla was using, which was everything in his arsenal.

The Merchant
I personally believe this speed of theirs is limited to their reaction speeds. While they can achieve quick bursts of full body speeds, they need to immerse themselves via force speed.

Revanchiste
Originally posted by The Merchant
A thread where we can all post showings related to speed in the SW Universe. An example would be Aryn Leneer, who was able to amplify her reaction time in the Milliseconds. Comparable to that would be Anakin Skywalker, who in a dog-fight also increased his reaction time to be in the Milliseconds. Darth Bane's reactions was in the Microseconds, and finally Grandmaster Luke Skywalker had a reaction time in the Nanoseconds. Anything else worth noting?


Revan and Vitiate....

WildBantha88
Originally posted by Revanchiste
Revan and Vitiate.... are not worth noting... Move along

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by WildBantha88
are not worth noting... Move along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bEs3dxjPg&t=0m39s

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Which were what powers? He didn't use any TK abilities, he just used his martial abilities and some precog. Hardly anything big compared to what Vizla was using, which was everything in his arsenal.
Edit: Remembered the fight wrong, still Maul's obviously using the Force there, since it's cool to jump ten feet in the air but not move super fast for some reason. I'm guessing he was also holding back against Kenobi, who was also holding back because Jedi?

The Merchant
If we're using TCW CGI Cad Bane being able to take on Obi and Vos in HTH combat briefly was pretty embarrassing.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Edit: Remembered the fight wrong, still Maul's obviously using the Force there, since it's cool to jump ten feet in the air but not move super fast for some reason. I'm guessing he was also holding back against Kenobi, who was also holding back because Jedi?

Why would he hold back against Obi-Wan?..

What I'm saying is, Maul could have easily just done away with Vizla, yet challenged him to pure 1 on 1 combat and he nerfed himself by not using hardly any Force abilities.

But then here TCW is different than the other mediums, tbh were straying off topic here anyhow as this is about discussing where the speed is for Force Users.

The Merchant
Yeah, I would like to find an acceptable medium. Everywhere I go you either get Force users not even being able to fight guys who break the sound barrier to no name Jedi being able to react to things going at the speed of Light. I disagree with both of those extremes.

SunRazer
@Ant - LOL @ your video responses.

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Why would he hold back against Obi-Wan?..

What I'm saying is, Maul could have easily just done away with Vizla, yet challenged him to pure 1 on 1 combat and he nerfed himself by not using hardly any Force abilities.

What you said is sometimes Jedi have low showings and don't use uper speed against every opponent because they hold back and that the same was true of Maul here because he wants to prove how strong he is.


It's not off topic at all and more to the point. Force Users never really move anywhere near Mach 1 outside of novels, which was something you claimed wasn't necessarily true.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
What you said is sometimes Jedi have low showings and don't use uper speed against every opponent because they hold back and that the same was true of Maul here because he wants to prove how strong he is.


It's not off topic at all and more to the point. Force Users never really move anywhere near Mach 1 outside of novels, which was something you claimed wasn't necessarily true.

For the bigger named Force Users I meant that, not every single one.

FreshestSlice
Maul's up there in the big leagues, bro. But whatever. I think it's just dumb period at a certain point out just gets ridiculous.

Revanchiste
Originally posted by WildBantha88
are not worth noting... Move along
Still imagine the duel of the fate happen in 10 secondes?????

Well it kinda wreck Maul level of speed...

Durability: Peak human level+ naturally; continent level+ with Force amplification (proved capable of resisting complete atomization of his body while on Nathema just after having fought through the Mandalorian Wars)

And for Vitiate they just delete it.... And web archive have no older versions...
But here its is

+I'm not done with Revan

Speed: Relativistic+ (fought Darth Malak at such speeds on the Star Forge); lightspeed reactions augmented by precognition

telepathy, psychometry Heheyehey I was mother ****ing damn rigth

Telekinesis
Revan can use this through the Force to put his mind literally over matter, capable of blasting opponents, shielding himself or disarming people, its limits are only those of the creativity that Force User has.

The Merchant
Revan survived atomization on Nathema? Thought that was Surik. Well, he scales from her anyways. However, I would like to know how they got continent levels from that.

As for relativistic claims I'm on the fence on that. But Revan should scale from Bane who can fight in Microseconds so there's that.

Revanchiste
Yep he did he go on Nathema the mandalorian lead him to this planet during their escape...

Well well well for the continent level I made some calculation with some friends on Narutos forums...... And since it is pretty long....

Well that's right Revan favorite edge in combat was insane speed and precision. So its is normal that Bane found it in the Darth Revan holocron... Even if Revan holocron was badly dammaged this should definitly be here.

I still think that Revan is the fastest force user with Yoda windu and sidious.... And vitiate...

Ha I just re read my post I should have edited it...

I think that Revan can go RV mod in battle like Raiden does in Metal gear solid revegeance because force speed can also affect the brain...
In french force speed is call Acceleration physique et mentale.... Wich is kinda transparent...
But remembers precognition + predicating attacks through muscle memory = also super fast reactions.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Them moving faster really isn't in question, but the moving at hypersonic speed shit is kind of dumb.

This.

7 seasons of Star Wars animation, and we can see Jedi/Sith can clearly move at speeds beyond human, but nothing even close to speed of sound.

Heck we've even seen Yoda and Sidious fight in those animations, and no hint of super sonic speed at all, let alone light speed.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by The Merchant
An example would be Aryn Leneer, who was able to amplify her reaction time in the Milliseconds.
You got this wrong.

Aryn Leener amplified her reaction time to a level at which she was able to perceive hyperspace activity that occurs in nanoseconds.

Her consciousness expanded to see and feel everything near her. She focused on her perception of the passage of time, first on how it felt as she moved through it, then on spreading it, stretching it, until she could linger in a millisecond as if it were a moment, then a minute. (Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Deceived)

Each millisecond felt like a long moment to her, such was her reaction time.

To Zeerid it would appear that she were a blur of motion, existing simultaneously in multiple places. To her, it felt as if the universe around her had stilled. She smiled, seeing the moments that hung before her, each millisecond a long moment in which she could think, in which she could act. (Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Deceived)

Essentially this:

As one, the Imperial ships began to stretch in her perception. For a nanosecond, all of them seemed to stretch to infinity, their rear engines a hundred thousand kilometers off Fatman’s bow, their forms reaching across and through an incomprehensible distance. She knew it was illusion, that is was a trick of her perception caused by the moment they entered hyperspace seeming to freeze before her eyes.

Honestly, one cannot get better then this. This is by far one of the best speed feats in the mythos.

Revanchiste
Originally posted by Darth Thor
This.

7 seasons of Star Wars animation, and we can see Jedi/Sith can clearly move at speeds beyond human, but nothing even close to speed of sound.

Heck we've even seen Yoda and Sidious fight in those animations, and no hint of super sonic speed at all, let alone light speed.

That why SW universe is kibnda powerfull....

"Honestly, one cannot get better then this"

Revan XD

Always him.. Revan trolling versus forum since KotOR II release......
He is not name the prodigual knight for nothing.
If it keep continuing like that Revan will beat Quick Silver. (XD does I need to remind you how O.P this character is...)

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.