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His fight will be fought with strength, durability, stamina, and more importantly fists, oh this is 2000foot Destroyer/w All of asgard in side

Going with Galactus.
You didnt stip him in any way, and, that makes him very potent, even if he us just throwing fists.

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w344/riv6672/image_zps55i962ry.jpg

Galactus can amp his physical stats i guess, he should win.

Galactus for the win. He tore one of the mad Celestials apart, which by Hickmans own account on Formspring is equal in power to the 616 Celestials, who the Destroyer, fully charged, couldn't even glance with it strikes.

Galactus tore a celestial in half with his bare hands

Originally posted by golem370
His fight will be fought with strength, durability, stamina, and more importantly fists, oh this is 2000foot Destroyer/w All of asgard in side

This one?

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Scoobless/Destroyer.jpg

He's about to get begot.

Originally posted by riv6672
Going with Galactus.
You didnt stip him in any way, and, that makes him very potent, even if he us just throwing fists.

http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w344/riv6672/image_zps55i962ry.jpg

I would say these are stips only using strength, durability, stamina, and more importantly fists I said nothing about amping so no amping, this is standard Galactus vs 2000 Foot Destroyer only I will stip to is Galactus matching Destroyers height

Destroyer. Originally posted by Utrigita
Galactus for the win. He tore one of the mad Celestials apart, which by Hickmans own account on Formspring is equal in power to the 616 Celestials, who the Destroyer, fully charged, couldn't even glance with it strikes.
That's an amped Galactus. Not applicable here.

And in direct comparison Celestials have been stated to be a level above Galactus.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/celestialnote1.jpg

And based on actual comics and not some cropped outdated newsletter page, Galactus lasted the longest against the Galactus Engine whereas the other celestial either died or fled, which included Arishem.

Originally posted by One-Punch
And based on actual comics and not some cropped outdated newsletter page, Galactus lasted the longest against the Galactus Engine whereas the other celestial either died or fled, which included Arishem.
And who knows how much attack Galactus endured against GE compared to celestials? The entire fight happened off panel.

It's like arguing Captain America is more powerful than Thor because he was the last against IG Thanos.

And that list is accurate today too. Celestials treated Odin like a *****.

Odin is a peer to Galactus in every way.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And who knows how much attack Galactus endured against GE compared to celestials? The entire fight happened off panel.

It's like arguing Captain America is more powerful than Thor because he was the last against IG Thanos.

And that list is accurate today too. Celestials treated Odin like a *****.

Odin is a peer to Galactus in every way.

Galactus was shown to be at the front line and center fighting against the GE.

In fact Galactus was the first cosmic entity the GE attacked.
http://whencallsgalactus.com/files/2012/01/Cancer1-722x1024.jpg

Later on, we see Tenebrous and the Celestials with Galactus fighting the GE. Galactus is still at the center directly in front of the GE.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1459385-the_engine.jpg

There were more than 16 or 17 Celestials at the frontline with Galactus. Notice Arishem (the guy who punked Odin) is directly below Galactus.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3647595-0+%281%29.jpg

Later on Aegis dies, and it's confirmed the other cosmic entities (which include the Celestials) have retreated:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Cancerverse%20War/ThanImp_3_019.jpg

Galactus is the last one standing against the GE and the only thing from keeping the 616 Universe from being torn apart:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1662470-thanos_06_007_008.jpg

Thanos was playing around with the heroes on purpose. If he wanted to he could've killed everyone with a thought. The GE on the other hand was quote: "tearing through everything we have."

No offense to the all-father, but I don't see Odin lasting anywhere near that long against the GE.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Galactus was shown to be at the front line and center fighting against the GE.

In fact Galactus was the first cosmic entity the GE attacked.
http://whencallsgalactus.com/files/2012/01/Cancer1-722x1024.jpg

Later on, we see Tenebrous and the Celestials with Galactus fighting the GE. Galactus is still at the center directly in front of the GE.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1459385-the_engine.jpg

There were more than 16 or 17 Celestials at the frontline with Galactus. Notice Arishem (the guy who punked Odin) is directly below Galactus.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3647595-0+%281%29.jpg

Later on Aegis dies, and it's confirmed the other cosmic entities (which include the Celestials) have retreated:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Cancerverse%20War/ThanImp_3_019.jpg

Galactus is the last one standing against the GE and the only thing from keeping the 616 Universe from being torn apart:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1662470-thanos_06_007_008.jpg

Thanos was playing around with the heroes on purpose. If he wanted to he could've killed everyone with a thought. The GE on the other hand was quote: "tearing through everything we have."

No offense to the all-father, but I don't see Odin lasting anywhere near that long against the GE.
So essentially nothing but the fact that Galactus was more stubborn and was just as useless as celestials against Engine.

The fact is that Galactus was the last of them doesn't makes him more powerful than Celestials as we never saw them taking the same attacks. Just like Aegis getting killed do casually doesn't means she wasn't Galactus level.

Odin koed Galactus with a headbutt. A simple spell from Asgard killed celestials like nothing.

Like I said the hierarchy is still the same as always but Celestials are a lot lower than they used to be.

In Thor 300? They'd treat Galactus the same way they did to Odin.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So essentially nothing but the fact that Galactus was more stubborn and was just as useless as celestials against Engine.

The fact is that Galactus was the last of them doesn't makes him more powerful than Celestials as we never saw them taking the same attacks. Just like Aegis getting killed do casually doesn't means she wasn't Galactus level.

Odin koed Galactus with a headbutt. A simple spell from Asgard killed celestials like nothing.

Like I said the hierarchy is still the same as always but Celestials are a lot lower than they used to be.

In Thor 300? They'd treat Galactus the same way they did to Odin.
Galactus was the first to take on the GE, and was the last man standing after the Celestials fled or were killed. And your take away on that is he's just more stubborn?



It clearly shows Galactus is more powerful than the Celestials who fled.

And it was stated by Surfer that Galactus and the Celestials were fighting the GE on multiple planes of existence that mortal minds couldn't comprehend.

So here's Quasar and Nova asking why 616 Cosmics and the GE look like they're just having a stand-off and not doing anything (basically what you said abhi).
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/35308/2029836-thanimp_3_peterwatts_cps_004.jpg

Surfer explains they're actually fighting on an abstract scale and they (puny mortals) couldn't perceive it until the consequences:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/35308/2029838-thanimp_3_peterwatts_cps_005.jpg

And one of the consequences is Aegis randomly exploding and dying.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/57845/1325853-headsplosion.jpg

Celestials were stated to be more powerful than Galactus, by their creator Jack Kirby. And not by some tiny amount but on another level entirely. This has also been pretty consistently shown in the comics as well, especially in the earlier stories which still had a resemblance of consistency, unlike modern Marvel.

Quite naturally, due to the pretty poor editorial control Marvel has these days on their stories, combined with the presence of several writers who lack knowledge of, or respect for, the established history of their characters, there are bound to be LOTS of inconsistencies. And that is indeed the case with modern Marvel. The most consistent view still is, however, that the Celestials are more powerful than Galactus... as they were always intended to be.

I didn't know editorials trump comics.

And it depends on the Celestial, because they vary in power.

Originally posted by Magnon
Celestials were stated to be more powerful than Galactus, by their creator Jack Kirby. And not by some tiny amount but on another level entirely. This has also been pretty consistently shown in the comics as well, especially in the earlier stories which still had a resemblance of consistency, unlike modern Marvel.

Quite naturally, due to the pretty poor editorial control Marvel has these days on their stories, combined with the presence of several writers who lack knowledge of, or respect for, the established history of their characters, there are bound to be LOTS of inconsistencies. And that is indeed the case with modern Marvel. The most consistent view still is, however, that the Celestials are more powerful than Galactus... as they were always intended to be.


As to the thread, Galactus wins.

Originally posted by One-Punch
I didn't know editorials trump comics.

And it depends on the Celestial, because they vary in power.

While I don't agree with everything he's said, I think his point is that Celestials standing in the cosmic hierarchy has changed significantly which probably accounts as to why Starlin's pecking order was written as this:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11116/111169812/3907755-m6zdal7.jpg

Not saying I agree, but the thought of Odin or Galactus (No offense) being in the same tier as a Celestial was not possible at the time of their introduction into Marvel.

And I think you are intelligent enough to realize why comparing the Destroyer's fight against the Fourth Host to Galactus' against the Mad Celestials isn't an accurate representation. If the World Eater was fighting side by side with the Destroyer during that story, he'd have had his anus violated just as badly if not worse.

A simple enough enchantment Odin forged can completely f*ck up any Celestial, even Exitar. Such a feat would be an unimaginable at the time of Thor #300, that includes Galactus taking on 4 crazy Celestials and living, much less holding his own.

But that's just me, canon is canon and nothing can change that. Adopting such a rigid viewpoint however limits your options.

As it stands right now, Odin in the Destroyer armor was implied to be more than a match against Galactus in Fraction's story IIRC (Been a while since I read that run). Which is probably accurate based on their fight (Galactus is more powerful, but they are on the same level). With all the power of Asgard and it's denizens inside of it, I think he'd stomp Galactus 90% of the time unless he was significantly powered up.

Unless you believe Galactus to be on a completely different level than Odin in power. Which some people do, although I disagree with this interpretation.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
While I don't agree with everything he's said, I think his point is that Celestials standing in the cosmic hierarchy has changed significantly which probably accounts as to why Starlin's pecking order was written as this:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11116/111169812/3907755-m6zdal7.jpg

Not saying I agree, but the thought of Odin or Galactus (No offense) being in the same tier as a Celestial was not possible at the time of their introduction into Marvel.

And I think you are intelligent enough to realize why comparing the Destroyer's fight against the Fourth Host to Galactus' against the Mad Celestials isn't an accurate representation. If the World Eater was fighting side by side with the Destroyer during that story, he'd have had his anus violated just as badly if not worse.

A simple enough enchantment Odin forged can completely f*ck up any Celestial, even Exitar. Such a feat would be an unimaginable at the time of Thor #300, that includes Galactus taking on 4 crazy Celestials and living, much less holding his own.

But that's just me, canon is canon and nothing can change that. Adopting such a rigid viewpoint however limits your options.

As it stands right now, Odin in the Destroyer armor was implied to be more than a match against Galactus in Fraction's story IIRC (Been a while since I read that run). Which is probably accurate based on their fight (Galactus is more powerful, but they are on the same level). With all the power of Asgard and it's denizens inside of it, I think he'd stomp Galactus 90% of the time unless he was significantly powered up.

Unless you believe Galactus to be on a completely different level than Odin in power. Which some people do, although I disagree with this interpretation.
I'm not making a comment about who would win in this fight, I was addressing abhi's comment that the average Celestial is a level above Galactus, which I disagree with.

Originally posted by golem370
I would say these are stips only using strength, durability, stamina, and more importantly fists I said nothing about amping so no amping, this is standard Galactus vs 2000 Foot Destroyer only I will stip to is Galactus matching Destroyers height
Thats what i figured.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Unless you believe Galactus to be on a completely different level than Odin in power. Which some people do, although I disagree with this interpretation. Anyone who isn't a buffoon thinks that.

Originally posted by Mindset
Anyone who isn't a buffoon thinks that.
Hence why rage does not.


















See what I did there??

Originally posted by One-Punch
Galactus was the first to take on the GE, and was the last man standing after the Celestials fled or were killed. And your take away on that is he's just more stubborn?



It clearly shows Galactus is more powerful than the Celestials who fled.

And it was stated by Surfer that Galactus and the Celestials were fighting the GE on multiple planes of existence that mortal minds couldn't comprehend.
Yes, he was. It still doesn't changes the fact that we were never shown what attacks Celestials took and what Galactus took.

No, it doesn't. It just shows Galactus was more stubborn. He had zero effect on engine, just as Celestials did.

Exactly. Off panel fight. Originally posted by One-Punch
So here's Quasar and Nova asking why 616 Cosmics and the GE look like they're just having a stand-off and not doing anything (basically what you said abhi).
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/35308/2029836-thanimp_3_peterwatts_cps_004.jpg

Surfer explains they're actually fighting on an abstract scale and they (puny mortals) couldn't perceive it until the consequences:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/35308/2029838-thanimp_3_peterwatts_cps_005.jpg

And one of the consequences is Aegis randomly exploding and dying.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/57845/1325853-headsplosion.jpg
You're just saying what I said. Simple off panel fight.

Aegis wasn't Galactus level then, right?

Originally posted by One-Punch
I'm not making a comment about who would win in this fight, I was addressing abhi's comment that the average Celestial is a level above Galactus, which I disagree with.

Fair enough. Tbh it wasn't all directed at you, I just started expressing my thoughts.

It wasn't always the case but currently Galactus is on the level of an average Celestial. You can't deny that evidence.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
While I don't agree with everything he's said, I think his point is that Celestials standing in the cosmic hierarchy has changed significantly which probably accounts as to why Starlin's pecking order was written as this:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11116/111169812/3907755-m6zdal7.jpg

Not saying I agree, but the thought of Odin or Galactus (No offense) being in the same tier as a Celestial was not possible at the time of their introduction into Marvel.

And I think you are intelligent enough to realize why comparing the Destroyer's fight against the Fourth Host to Galactus' against the Mad Celestials isn't an accurate representation. If the World Eater was fighting side by side with the Destroyer during that story, he'd have had his anus violated just as badly if not worse.

A simple enough enchantment Odin forged can completely f*ck up any Celestial, even Exitar. Such a feat would be an unimaginable at the time of Thor #300, that includes Galactus taking on 4 crazy Celestials and living, much less holding his own.

But that's just me, canon is canon and nothing can change that. Adopting such a rigid viewpoint however limits your options.

As it stands right now, Odin in the Destroyer armor was implied to be more than a match against Galactus in Fraction's story IIRC (Been a while since I read that run). Which is probably accurate based on their fight (Galactus is more powerful, but they are on the same level). With all the power of Asgard and it's denizens inside of it, I think he'd stomp Galactus 90% of the time unless he was significantly powered up.

Unless you believe Galactus to be on a completely different level than Odin in power. Which some people do, although I disagree with this interpretation.

What makes you so sure celestials are above galactus exactly? Odin in the destroyer was never said to be a match for galactus,the asgardians like volstagg assumed galactus fled when he entered the destroyer.
Just because enchantments can make a weapon harm a celestial dosent take away their power,galactus has been shown on panel to be above celestials.
The destroyer ciould do anything to a single celestial,who blocked its strongest attack with one arm.
Any one who isn't a retard knows galactus dwarfs odin by a margin.

This is interesting reading, but ultimately doesnt change the fact that Galactus should have this in hand.

It can put up a good fight. But will lose. People like to act like Galan is way out of Odins league. He is only moderately out of Odins league. Galan should win every time but he is going to have to work for it.

I guess the reason for this thread was for me one Destroyer is made of Uru so he should be damn near Indestructible should at this size should be near as strong as most high level cosmic aka Galactus and it should seems to me Galan would have stamina issues in form of power level if the fight lasted for a bit.

Originally posted by golem370
it should seems to me Galan would have stamina issues in form of power level if the fight lasted for a bit.
It's been mentioned before but I'll say it again here, Galactus isn't having any 'stamina' issues in a fight vs the Destroyer.

He was the last man standing vs the Galactus Engine. This thing drove away 12+ Celestials, Tenebrous, and Aegis. Odin and the Destroyer wouldn't last 10 seconds vs that thing.

Galactus wins.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
It can put up a good fight. But will lose. People like to act like Galan is way out of Odins league. He is only moderately out of Odins league. Galan should win every time but he is going to have to work for it.
Last time they fought odin got his ass KO'd when he headbutted galactus,and had to enter the odin sleep and still could barely stand...galactus didn't even have to throw a punch...and he was operating at levels where a hit from thor actually made him feel something...a well fed galactus backhands odin

Originally posted by Genii96
Last time they fought odin got his ass KO'd when he headbutted galactus,and had to enter the odin sleep and still could barely stand...galactus didn't even have to throw a punch...and he was operating at levels where a hit from thor actually made him feel something...a well fed galactus backhands odin

I know. Galactus wins 10/10. But Odin has always been able to put up an actual fight with Galactus. Asgardian magic and items have always been able to cancel or negate the power cosmic in some form or fashion. And since this is a fist fight, I think there will be a decent little scrap before the Destroyer falls. Which it will. I just dont think its gonna be a one shot, just like I dont think the Destroyer wins a single match.

Originally posted by Genii96
Last time they fought odin got his ass KO'd when he headbutted galactus,and had to enter the odin sleep and still could barely stand...galactus didn't even have to throw a punch...and he was operating at levels where a hit from thor actually made him feel something...a well fed galactus backhands odin

Yes, that encounter showed us that Thor can inflict serious harm upon a well-fed Galactus, if the latter is momentarily distracted.

Galactus was also koed by that headbutt. Don't kid yourself.

Was he koed? I remember him falling to earth. I will have to go relook at it. There was the tp battle which I would say Galactus won because he got Odin so pissed off he decided to start headbutting abstracts.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Was he koed? I remember him falling to earth. I will have to go relook at it. There was the tp battle which I would say Galactus won because he got Odin so pissed off he decided to start headbutting abstracts.
Yes, he was. It was a double KO.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I know. Galactus wins 10/10. But Odin has always been able to put up an actual fight with Galactus. Asgardian magic and items have always been able to cancel or negate the power cosmic in some form or fashion. And since this is a fist fight, I think there will be a decent little scrap before the Destroyer falls. Which it will. I just dont think its gonna be a one shot, just like I dont think the Destroyer wins a single match.
Odin put up a good fight telepathically though he was still losing,when you knock yourself out hitting someone else who just gets right back up like nothing happens,that's not exactly a good fight,I mean if galactus had actualy decided to hit odin as he was coming,it would have been lights out.
As for the destroyer it depends on the hunger level of galactus,a well fed(like 4 planets) rips it in half.

Originally posted by Magnon
Yes, that encounter showed us that Thor can inflict serious harm upon a well-fed Galactus, if the latter is momentarily distracted.
Thor just cracked the armour and caused some pain,he didn't inflict serious harm or anything like that...galactus has shrugged off hits from agamotto and mephisto in their realms while not well fed.

Originally posted by Magnon
Yes, that encounter showed us that Thor can inflict serious harm upon a well-fed Galactus, if the latter is momentarily distracted.
He wasn't 'well fed', before that fight he fed on a dead world. He wasn't hungry but he sure as hell wasn't at his peak.

He fed on a dead world? Does that actually give him anything?I thought he feeds off blossoming planets?

IMO Galactus and Odin aren't peers. They are relatively close in power in suppose, but Galactus would win every time they fought. That isn't a peer, that's a tier above imo.

Originally posted by Genii96
I thought he feeds off blossoming planets?
He does. But dead worlds can do if nothing else is available.

Ah,so basically,he was even weaker than he would normally be,when he feeds on a normal planet once a month?...basically odin took on less than average galactus,and got his ass kicked,good to know

Haha, what? Galactus was sated.

Nowhere in the comic it was stated that consuming a dead planet made him weaker.

That's some asinine logic on itself.

Originally posted by Genii96
Ah,so basically,he was even weaker than he would normally be,when he feeds on a normal planet once a month?...basically odin took on less than average galactus,and got his ass kicked,good to know
The populated world > living world > dead world thing was even mentioned on panel, but it was from an alternate reality.

Keeper was leading Galactus to green worlds with no life on them and Galactus said they only barely are getting the job done, not only does he need living worlds, he needs then to be populated with life forms to get the full effect out of them :
http://s15.postimg.org/g4jjmayfr/guardians_of_the_galaxy_59_06.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? Galactus was sated.

Nowhere in the comic it was stated that consuming a dead planet made him weaker.

That's some asinine logic on itself.
But he DID eat a dead world. I even said he wasn't hungry, but he also wasn't optimal.

Galactus wins this one comfortably.

Galactus feeds on the biospheric energy of a planet,the greater the ability of that planet to support life,the more he gets out of it,hence one of the reasons he is fixiated on earth. A dead planet has no support for life and is on its own 'dead'. The amount of energy he would get from that,would be less than one he would get from a healthy planet..:ence why he usually feeds on populated planets,ofcourse if anyone who actually knew what galactus feeds on were to actually type,he wouldn't type BS comments. But hey coming from someone who believes celestials are skyfather levels,its not much of a problem.

And a well fed galactus shits on the destroyer worse than a celestial would

In this scenario he's well fed, inless something changed in the lsdt couple pages that i didnt catch.
I mean, this IS fisticuffs, but he's going to do well.

Originally posted by zopzop
The populated world > living world > dead world thing was even mentioned on panel, but it was from an alternate reality.

Keeper was leading Galactus to green worlds with no life on them and Galactus said they only barely are getting the job done, not only does he need living worlds, he needs then to be populated with life forms to get the full effect out of them :
http://s15.postimg.org/g4jjmayfr/guardians_of_the_galaxy_59_06.jpg


That's an alternate reality. Meaningless.

Where did he say that he wasn't optimal or some shit?

Originally posted by Genii96
Galactus feeds on the biospheric energy of a planet,the greater the ability of that planet to support life,the more he gets out of it,hence one of the reasons he is fixiated on earth. A dead planet has no support for life and is on its own 'dead'. The amount of energy he would get from that,would be less than one he would get from a healthy planet..:ence why he usually feeds on populated planets,ofcourse if anyone who actually knew what galactus feeds on were to actually type,he wouldn't type BS comments. But hey coming from someone who believes celestials are skyfather levels,its not much of a problem.
Stop talking nonsense like you know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Genii96
And a well fed galactus shits on the destroyer worse than a celestial would
It took several Celestials to turn Destroyer into slag via energy blasts.

Galactus isn't that powerful.

I'm imagining that a 2000ft tall Destroyer would be significantly less durable. Maybe it's just me though.

Why do you say that?

Well the Destroyer would be much larger, and thus it's surface area would become larger making it less durable and easier to punch a hole through. Then again it's magical so maybe not.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
IMO Galactus and Odin aren't peers. They are relatively close in power in suppose, but Galactus would win every time they fought. That isn't a peer, that's a tier above imo.

I agree. I think that comparing the two would be like comparing the Surfer to Wonder Man.