Superman vs Odin

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panthergod
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The head of the project stated "In-Continuity" stories. That New Mutants story was a particularly what-if instance. The fact that it specifically described the setting as a different universe makes it clear. It's still canon for its universe isn't it?

Come on Abhi your a smart guy... Read between the lines.

Now where in this fight shows no skill involved? You are talking out of your anus.

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Oh btw Thor found out years later that it was Odin who he beat in combat that day wanting to teach him a hard lesson. So basically he disguised himself as a warlord with strength that quadrupled Thor's. With Odin's strength level as Orlog coupled with countless millennia of battle experience, makes the feat that much more impressive. Four times or not, he was above Thor physically when Thor admitted to himself that he was outmatched.

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Hold up... Lol!

loooooooooool!

So wait.. Wait wait wait... Either Odin was trying to teach Thor a lesson, NOT kill him, therefore this feat is inadmissable as a legit combat showing...

Or..

Odin level Skyfather can be legit hurt and beaten By Elite top tiers in HTH combat.

If the second option is the case, All Out Superman is EASILY Skyfather level physically.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Why did you come to the conclusion that the ONLY possible 2 outcomes are that Odin can be beaten by herald level beings or that Thor was allowed to win at the end?

Odin was trying to teach Thor a lesson, and he allowed Thor to win in that he was not using anywhere near his full power and shape shifted into another form but that doesn't make the feat inadmissible.

It's inadmissible as evidence that Thor beat up Odin, a high end Skyfather. It's admissible as evidence of Thor going far beyond his limits and that of a standard Top Tier and beating the crap of a Kurse level entity known as Orlogog. Odin is not only adept in shape shifting but he exists beyond time and space and is even capable of existing at different points in time/space simultaneously:
http://s5d4.turboimg.net/t/24322285_fi_7.3_008.jpg http://s5d4.turboimg.net/t/24322287_fi_7.3_017.jpg http://s5d4.turboimg.net/t/24322288_fi_7.3_018.jpg http://s5d4.turboimg.net/t/24322290_fi_7.3_019.jpg http://s5d4.turboimg.net/t/24322292_fi_7.3_020-021.jpg

I know this is hard for your mind to comprehend but bare with me.

And none of this makes Superman easily Skyfather level. No one is buying the bullshit you're selling. *holds nose* Go home.

Mindset
Terrible thread.

Terrible poster.

panthergod
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why did you come to the conclusion that the ONLY possible 2 outcomes are that Odin can be beaten by herald level beings or that Thor was allowed to win at the end?

Because Thor fight an opponent not even remotely trying to defeat him isn't a feat, maybe?


It makes it 100% inadmissable as a combat feat, sure, if Thors opponent did not want to win and in fact had s vested interest in not winning. There is no statement anywhere that Odin was holding back physically/stat-wise In the least in those scans.




It's proof that his opponent's durability was well below Kurses' and didn't want to defeat him. Further, he punched an axe into his face. Not a pure strength showing in the least.

Good job, Thor.




Of course it is.

And this showing is nothing whatsoever Compared to what Superman is capable of, in constrast to how you presented it to me elsewhere, liar.



So was Odin actively trying to kill Thor, or not?

Because if he was holding back physically or skill wise, this feat is inadmissable as a combat showing, and if he was going to the hilt, your Skyfather arguments are over.

So which is it?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by panthergod
Hold up... Lol!

loooooooooool!

So wait.. Wait wait wait... Either Odin was trying to teach Thor a lesson, NOT kill him, therefore this feat is inadmissable as a legit combat showing...

Or..

Odin level Skyfather can be legit hurt and beaten By Elite top tiers in HTH combat.

If the second option is the case, All Out Superman is EASILY Skyfather level physically.
People who understood the story would realize that Odin though a skyfather of the highest order, made himself into a level that is well below his power, but still powerful enough to smack around his boastful son and teach him a lesson. I mean why would the writer go out of his way to shoehorn that little bit of info about Orlog being 4 times stronger than Thor? Maybe to let the readers know that he has the ability to phukk up one of the strongest characters in comics? Maybe? I mean Christ what are we really doing here? The writer even went out of his way to give a specific number on his strength level.

What I can't fathom is how this is not clear to certain fans of a blue and red tights wearing character... And then going as far as trying to claim the feat is inadmissible because the supposed only other option really is not an option.

I mean it's not like Odin who is the monarch of a race of warrior gods mind you hasn't been known to teach his son a harsh lesson or two. Jeez.


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burrrrrr
Originally posted by lovechild of abi & h1
Hold up... Lol!

loooooooooool!

So wait.. Wait wait wait... Either Odin was trying to teach Thor a lesson, NOT kill him, therefore this feat is inadmissable as a legit combat showing...

Or..

Odin level Skyfather can be legit hurt and beaten By Elite top tiers in HTH combat.

If the second option is the case, All Out Superman is EASILY Skyfather level physically.

taz

Ambient
no2 to the thread.

Henry_Pym
The Butthurt

Stoic
Originally posted by panthergod
Because Thor fight an opponent not even remotely trying to defeat him isn't a feat, maybe?


It makes it 100% inadmissable as a combat feat, sure, if Thors opponent did not want to win and in fact had s vested interest in not winning. There is no statement anywhere that Odin was holding back physically/stat-wise In the least in those scans.




It's proof that his opponent's durability was well below Kurses' and didn't want to defeat him. Further, he punched an axe into his face. Not a pure strength showing in the least.

Good job, Thor.




Of course it is.

And this showing is nothing whatsoever Compared to what Superman is capable of, in constrast to how you presented it to me elsewhere, liar.



So was Odin actively trying to kill Thor, or not?

Because if he was holding back physically or skill wise, this feat is inadmissable as a combat showing, and if he was going to the hilt, your Skyfather arguments are over.

So which is it?

Is that you Abhi? What's with the sock account?

Dampyre
Odin destroys Superman. I guess Superman vs Galactus is next. Poor Superman fanboys. They are an odd, delusional lot.

panthergod
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
People who understood the story would realize that Odin though a skyfather of the highest order, made himself into a level that is well below his power, but still powerful enough to smack around his boastful son and teach him a lesson. I mean why would the writer go out of his way to shoehorn that little bit of info about Orlog being 4 times stronger than Thor? Maybe to let the readers know that he has the ability to phukk up one of the strongest characters in comics? Maybe? I mean Christ what are we really doing here? The writer even went out of his way to give a specific number on his strength level.

Is there explicit contrary data on how Odin compares to Thor? If not, this is an indication of where Odin is relative to Thor under this writer.

If Odin was suppressing his physical stats, please point to where that is indicated in the story.


Well, yeah. Fighting a character who doesn't want to actually win the fight isn't a feat, unless there is an indication that Odin was in fact fighting with his all, like there was a caveat that Darkseid was trying to make his intention fake death seem convincing in order to mask his scheme during Orion#5.




Which, of course, utterly invalidates this as a combat feat unless you want to argue that Odin is capable of being defeated by a Class 100 character.

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Butt hurt? Over what, exactly? It's already well established fact that Superman is superior to that weakling Thor is every respect as it relates to combat except versatility, and already ouiscled him with one arm before dumping him into the dirt he was spawned from.

Robbing aside, it's just extremely entertaining to me considering how this showing was presented to me by Rage in the past during a Superman/ Thor strength debate elsewhere, who did not in ANY WAY let on that this was, in fact Odin? I wonder why he left that tidbit out? Seems to me like he was TERRIFIED of the implications.

abhilegend
I guess Thor fans want to have their cake and eat it too.

BTW Orlog was "rumored" to be four times as strong as Thor. Nowhere was it even commented by narration or the characters.

StiltmanFTW
Superman threads should be banned like for a year or something.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Mindset
Great thread.

Great poster.

thumb up

Silent Master
Odin wins

burrrrrr
Odin wins quickly and easily unless he decides to have some fun and brawl with Supes for awhile.

Adam Grimes
Don't step on that crack, panthergod.

Utrigita
Odin stomps, spite thread.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Don't step on that crack, panthergod.

Oh snap

D-Block
Originally posted by Utrigita
Odin stomps, spite thread.

-Pr-
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Superman threads should be banned like for a year or something.

It's getting there.

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Anyway, closed. Bait thread etc.

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