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Originally posted by Zack M
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What in the HELL is THAT?!?

You haven't been keeping up with Darkseid War?

Originally posted by riv6672
What in the HELL is THAT?!?

When the Anti Monitor was fighting Darkseid he merged the Black Racer with the Flash. And then sent him smashing into Darkseid along with the Anti Monitor using an ALE blast to kill him.

Originally posted by riv6672
What in the HELL is THAT?!? Ultron.

Originally posted by Zack M
You haven't been keeping up with Darkseid War?
Nope.
Judging from the below, though...

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
When the Anti Monitor was fighting Darkseid he merged the Black Racer with the Flash. And then sent him smashing into Darkseid along with the Anti Monitor using an ALE blast to kill him.
...it should be easy to catch up. Doesnt seem convoluted at ALL.

Given the feats listed in the thread I would say Galactus wins handily.

Galactus really should not have a problem

Black Racer prior to the merger with Flash was taking it to the Anti-Monitor and seriously injuring him. Yet Galactus wouldn't have much trouble here?....

I know, right?

Flash Racer for the win.

Call me crazy, but I'm going with the Death Avatar here.

'Racer one-shots.

Guess i'll go Galactus.

Speed kills. Literally.

Originally posted by Galan007
'Racer one-shots.

Is Flash Racer Universal or something?

How can be beat Galactus even he's well-fed?

Since when is Galactus universal?

Originally posted by Blocky
Is Flash Racer Universal or something?

How can be beat Galactus even he's well-fed? The same way he 'beat' Darkseid(who was universal+.)

Originally posted by Surtur
Given the feats listed in the thread I would say Galactus wins handily.

Forgot about that.

It seems The flash racer is one of the most powerful versions of flash.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Since when is Galactus universal?

When Galactus fought both Scrier and The Other they were causing universal/multiversal(?) destruction, to the point of giving the abstract Oblivion a boner:

Originally posted by One-Punch
Galactus saves Thor from The Other, and takes on both Scrier and The Other (two cosmic level beings).
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Galactus is un-phased by The Other blasting him directly. Then Galactus shrugs off a planet being thrown at him from behind by Scrier
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Scrier tosses several planets at Galactus, which Galactus destroys with his eye beams.
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Galactus tanking both The Other and Scier's attacks simultaneously without much trouble. The narration describes the battle as "time and space are bent to the breaking point, reality itself groans like an ancient house about to collapse."
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Surfer describes Galactus' battle against The Other and Scrier as one that could "set creation ablaze" and Rachel says that if their fight continues the universe would be destroyed.
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Galactus and his opponents easily tank a combined god blast from Thor, Surfer, and Rachel. But it does get their attention. (I think it was a god blast based off this description, "all that they are--body and mind, emotion and spirit--entwine, fuse, erupt--channelled through the Asgardian metal of the thunder god's hammer."
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Oblivion gets excited that all of existence will go back to him. The trio stop fighting because they know had they continued, the universe would be destroyed, and all their plans would go to waste.
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Just to show off how powerful Galactus' opponents were (besides their battle threatening the existence of the universe), Scrier was able to create a thousand Silver Surfers and thousand Thor's from fragments of their minds. This is prior to fighting Galactus.
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Oblivion made multiple statements about how their fight would cause all of reality to come back to him.

In the same book Oblivion mentioned how the Chaos King (who was multiversal) was but a mere aspect of his infinite self, and if Scrier and The Other (and later Galactus) were to collide, the "annihilation of ALL universeS" would be just a heartbeat away.

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^ A great showing, indeed. I certainly wouldn't say that's his 'average', though.

Exactly. He's not universal on average nor is that even close to being his average to bring it up

Originally posted by One-Punch
When Galactus fought both Scrier and The Other they were causing universal/multiversal(?) destruction, to the point of giving the abstract Oblivion a boner:



Oblivion made multiple statements about how their fight would cause all of reality to come back to him.

In the same book Oblivion mentioned how the Chaos King (who was multiversal) was but a mere aspect of his infinite self, and if Scrier and The Other (and later Galactus) were to collide, the "annihilation of ALL universeS" would be just a heartbeat away.

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Rain check on your parade. Oblivion wasn't sure of anything in that issue wasn't just an illusion from Scrier and only Scrier knew everything.


It's a good showing for Galactus. But the actual fight involved Scrier tossing out planets at Galactus. Not even a solar system was destroyed in the fight.

To go by Oblivion's words when he isn't even sure if it was illusion or real?

Originally posted by Zack M


I know, right? Originally posted by Zack M
Speed kills. Literally. ^thread creator.

Galactus,if well fed smashes him

Originally posted by -K-M-
Exactly. He's not universal on average nor is that even close to being his average to bring it up
Define average,one planet per month galactus? A weakened one was gonna be used to vap 2 universes during annihilation,a well fed one outdid every celestial against the GE,and beat 4 celestials at once,Well fed galactus has always been portrayed that strong,unless you are talking of another version

Flash Racer kills him, that's his power and if it works on Multiversal beings like DS and AM, why not on a Universal one like Galactus?

Originally posted by Smurph
^thread creator.





I was thinking the samething lol

Originally posted by Genii96
Define average,one planet per month galactus? A weakened one was gonna be used to vap 2 universes during annihilation,a well fed one outdid every celestial against the GE,and beat 4 celestials at once,Well fed galactus has always been portrayed that strong,unless you are talking of another version

Average comics book appearances as in how he is portrayed majority in the comics. That's how we determine averages. Those are handful of appearances compared to his vast majority of appearances where he is shown far far lower then that.

So, what, you dont count them at all?
Thats silly.
If you play 100 games of basketball and in 20 of them you score75 points, the rest 30, we shouldnt count the 75 point games because there's less of them?

Originally posted by Smurph
^thread creator.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ A great showing, indeed. I certainly wouldn't say that's his 'average', though. Originally posted by -K-M-
Exactly. He's not universal on average nor is that even close to being his average to bring it up Originally posted by One-Punch
When Galactus fought both Scrier and The Other they were causing universal/multiversal(?) destruction, to the point of giving the abstract Oblivion a boner:



Oblivion made multiple statements about how their fight would cause all of reality to come back to him.

In the same book Oblivion mentioned how the Chaos King (who was multiversal) was but a mere aspect of his infinite self, and if Scrier and The Other (and later Galactus) were to collide, the "annihilation of ALL universeS" would be just a heartbeat away.

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Guys, Galactus wasn't even needed for the multiversal destruction Oblivion foresaw. Just Scrier and Other :
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Originally posted by riv6672
So, what, you dont count them at all?
Thats silly.
If you play 100 games of basketball and in 20 of them you score75 points, the rest 30, we shouldnt count the 75 point games because there's less of them?

This is not a new concept for the board, we do NOT just go by high or even low showings. ALL SHOWINGS apply, hence we get an average looking at the character as a whole not picking and choosing feats. Your choosing to ignore his low showings, while on the other hand I'm looking at all his showings and looking at his average which is common practice on these boards

Very basic stuff

Originally posted by -K-M-
Black Racer prior to the merger with Flash was taking it to the Anti-Monitor and seriously injuring him. Yet Galactus wouldn't have much trouble here?....

To be honest this just makes it sound like Anti-Monitor just isn't as powerful as he used to be. Or Black Racer quite literally got a massive massive power boost.

Originally posted by Surtur
To be honest this just makes it sound like Anti-Monitor just isn't that powerful.

That Anti-Monitor was stated to have absorbed and destroyed universes.

Yeah so uh you see the problem then with the Black Racer being able to do anything to a being supposedly that strong?

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah so uh you see the problem then with the Black Racer being able to do anything to a being supposedly that strong?

You do know Racer is an aspect of Death right?

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah so uh you see the problem then with the Black Racer being able to do anything to a being supposedly that strong?

and yet you said Galactus handles him handily?

As mentioned he was used to kill Darkseid basically instantly

Originally posted by -K-M-
That Anti-Monitor was stated to have absorbed and destroyed universes. The same was said about Darkseid... Who 'Racer one-shot killed.

Galactus eats him.

Originally posted by Galan007
The same was said about Darkseid... Who 'Racer one-shot killed.

So I guess this means DCnU black racer>>pre flashpoint BR?

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know Racer is an aspect of Death right?

Yep and Big G basically has the true Death as a sibling, not a mere aspect of death.

But what I'm saying is Black Racer was never really portrayed as universal before. So either a massive amp was given, or AM was weakened.

The fact AM needed help to beat Darkseid tends to make me think AM just isn't as potent as he once was.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep and Big G basically has the true Death as a sibling, not a mere aspect of death.

But what I'm saying is Black Racer was never really portrayed as universal before. So either a massive amp was given, or AM was weakened.

The fact AM needed help to beat Darkseid tends to make me think AM just isn't as potent as he once was.

DCnU, bro. DCnU Racer is obv upgraded....

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep and Big G basically has the true Death as a sibling, not a mere aspect of death.

But what I'm saying is Black Racer was never really portrayed as universal before. So either a massive amp was given, or AM was weakened.

The fact AM needed help to beat Darkseid tends to make me think AM just isn't as potent as he once was.

Just because you're sibling is powerful, doens't mean you get a free pass. Galan posted a scan of 2 of the Endless. One being Destiny and the other Death, Death killed Destiny in the end. He didn't get a free pass because there siblings, so why should Galactus.

This is Pre Crisis Anti Monitor, he's a whole different being.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep and Big G basically has the true Death as a sibling, not a mere aspect of death.

But what I'm saying is Black Racer was never really portrayed as universal before. So either a massive amp was given, or AM was weakened.

The fact AM needed help to beat Darkseid tends to make me think AM just isn't as potent as he once was.



Plus it took both Black Racer and AM to beat Darkseid. BR didn't do it on his lonesome.

Originally posted by carver9


Plus it took both Black Racer and AM to beat Darkseid. BR didn't do it on his lonesome.

Yeah, but you don't summon a weapon to a battlefield unless you're pretty sure it would work..

Everyone on the field gave 'Racer...and 'Racer alone...full credit for killing Darkseid:
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Just saying.


Also, lol @ the "Death is Galactus' sister" argument. Love the Chewbacca Defense.

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Originally posted by Zack M
So I guess this means DCnU black racer>>pre flashpoint BR? Probably.

I guess this means that you should make a thread that pits DCnU Black Racer against Quicksilver. mmm