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Hammond versus Storm.
No prep. No BFR. Honestly wondering who's been shown to be more powerful.

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Johnny wins. Hammonds lame.

Hammond all day.

1 for 1.
Sweet!

They fought before, Hammond won.

When was it?

Hammond...more durable. Better fighter, original deal etc

Hammond.

Overloaded Sentry, fought Namor evenly, killed Hitler:

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7blby8Fqr1qk9rmx.png

Fun fact: Bucky says he killed Hitler, too

Anyway, another advantage OHT has is that he doesn't seem to be holding back as much as Johnny...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hammond.

Overloaded Sentry, fought Namor evenly, killed Hitler:

http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7blby8Fqr1qk9rmx.png

Fun fact: Bucky says he killed Hitler, too

Anyway, another advantage OHT has is that he doesn't seem to be holding back as much as Johnny...

With the whole Sentry thing I think it was more him exploiting Sentry's fear about power. I wouldn't say he actually overloaded him. He certainly manipulated him though.

I don't know why but that Hitler drawing looks funny in that scan.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
With the whole Sentry thing I think it was more him exploiting Sentry's fear about power. I wouldn't say he actually overloaded him. He certainly manipulated him though.

I don't know why but that Hitler drawing looks funny in that scan.

Debatable, sure. But whatever he did, it's one hell of a feat and something that Johnny Storm could likely not be able to replicate.

Yeah, that artist can make funny faces. We should ask Brevoort one day and find out who really killed Hitler, btw.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Debatable, sure. But whatever he did, it's one hell of a feat and something that Johnny Storm could likely not be able to replicate.

Yeah, that artist can make funny faces. We should ask Brevoort one day and find out who really killed Hitler, btw.

Brevoort will probably come out with some stupid response like,

"Wait and see".

And then half a year later he says.

"This is a battleboard question so I won't be answering it". He's a tool.

Hammond wins.

I might even go so far as to say that it's borderline spite in his favor.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Brevoort will probably come out with some stupid response like,

"Wait and see".

And then half a year later he says.

"This is a battleboard question so I won't be answering it". He's a tool.



He has a bad rep, but he's not all that bad. He does have the access to the scripts, so he can clear up a lot of stuff. Like that time when the coloring in Avengers Assemble made it impossible to say who hit Thanos in the face - Iron Fist or Vision. He told me it was Vision.

Granted, he's not TOAA and there are plenty of statements we can disagree with. But in general, I'd say we can't blame him for being fed up with internet trolls. Whedon left twitter after AoU, for example.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


He has a bad rep, but he's not all that bad. He does have the access to the scripts, so he can clear up a lot of stuff. Like that time when the coloring in Avengers Assemble made it impossible to say who hit Thanos in the face - Iron Fist or Vision. He told me it was Vision.

Granted, he's not TOAA and there are plenty of statements we can disagree with. But in general, I'd say we can't blame him for being fed up with internet trolls. Whedon left twitter after AoU, for example.

Yeah you're right I guess, I just like to rag on him sometimes. He must put up with a lot that you never see on tumblr.

He might not be TOAA, could be Marduk/Mephisto though

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yeah you're right I guess, I just like to rag on him sometimes. He must put up with a lot that you never see on tumblr.

I can only imagine how many "Rages" tried to assassinate him in RL after he confirmed Wolverine has faster reflexes and superior combat speed than Thor.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He might not be TOAA, could be Marduk/Mephisto though

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Debatable, sure. But whatever he did, it's one hell of a feat and something that Johnny Storm could likely not be able to replicate.


It wasn't a feat at all. He didn't overload him. It was freaking fire for cripes sake. We're to believe that a being who has taken punches from Photon and WWH, taken on the collective, the full force of a nuke, and is fast enough to travel to Saturn in mere seconds was overcome by Hammonds fire? Lol.

It was just another writers lame attempt to get rid of the Sentry so the storyline could continue, not a great feat for Hammond.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
With the whole Sentry thing I think it was more him exploiting Sentry's fear about power. I wouldn't say he actually overloaded him. In all honesty, it definitely seemed like the implication was that Hammond straight-up overloaded Sentry with his power.


For those who've not seen the feat:
http://i.imgur.com/IzTFWrfm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nKZrNZkm.jpg
-Avengers/Invaders #06 (2009)

He specifically told him he was feeding him with more energy.

With characters like Hammond, it's never "just fire", it's heat generation/manipulation off the scale.

Yeah, Hammond called Sentry's "one thousand exploding suns" bluff, and won.

...Good thing Bob wasn't channeling the power of "one million exploding suns" in that scene, though, or Hammond might not have been so lucky.

If Hammond overloaded Sentry, he must be one of the most powerful characters in Marvel comics. Come on guys, I see nothing more than a writer and character exposing Sentrys fragile mind to rid the story of him.

Lets use common sense here-

Jim Hammond>>>>>>Genis, WWH, Dr. Strange, Absorbing Man, Terrax, The Collective, Morgan Le Fay, Ultron, or even the Molecule Man. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/laugh.gif

You've got to be kidding me.

Originally posted by tkitna
If Hammond overloaded Sentry, he must be one of the most powerful characters in Marvel comics. Come on guys, I see nothing more than a writer and character exposing Sentrys fragile mind to rid the story of him.

Lets use common sense here-

Jim Hammond>>>>>>Genis, WWH, Dr. Strange, Absorbing Man, Terrax, The Collective, Morgan Le Fay, Ultron, or even the Molecule Man. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/laugh.gif

You've got to be kidding me. I


Seemed legit

This might help:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/11419040_1032390160114216_1995083032_n.jpg

Just learned a lot about Hammond. Seeet.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This might help:

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http://img.picturequotes.com/2/43/42498/when-our-minds-are-clouded-by-hatred-selfishness-jealousy-and-anger-we-lose-not-only-control-but-quote-1.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
If Hammond overloaded Sentry, he must be one of the most powerful characters in Marvel comics. Come on guys, I see nothing more than a writer and character exposing Sentrys fragile mind to rid the story of him.

Lets use common sense here-

Jim Hammond>>>>>>Genis, WWH, Dr. Strange, Absorbing Man, Terrax, The Collective, Morgan Le Fay, Ultron, or even the Molecule Man. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/laugh.gif

You've got to be kidding me. I tend to agree with you. Though the scene seems straighforwardly written, showing simple, sheer overloading (no psychological factors), it does remind me of Hulk/Cap Marvel getting Batkicked, or Panther armbarring Surfer. Essentially: PIS (imho)...

Originally posted by Galan007
...Good thing Bob wasn't channeling the power of "one million exploding suns" in that scene, though, or Hammond might not have been so lucky. ...or this.

I'd say its a cut above the two feats you mentioned. If its PIS, its at least feasible PIS.

Originally posted by riv6672
I'd say its a cut above the two feats you mentioned. If its PIS, its at least feasible PIS. Indeed, these two combatants are certainly closer in power than, say, Batman and Hulk. But still, the Sentry has been touted as such an awesomely powerful figure, it would've made the Torch/Sentry outcome *clearer*, methinks, with some mention of Bob's pycho factor.

Storm but not in a stomp

Does the Sentry feat count as/mean Hammond can go nova?

Of course he can.

Originally posted by namorsubby
The Torch #8:

Jim Hammond Vs. "The Inhuman Torch"

Defeats him by going nova while the other torch is trying to absorb all his power, same way he was killed in New Invaders.
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Speaking of New Invaders:

Cover
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Links
http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=16360
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26881

How in the HELL did i miss that?!?

Originally posted by Mindship
I tend to agree with you. Though the scene seems straighforwardly written, showing simple, sheer overloading (no psychological factors), it does remind me of Hulk/Cap Marvel getting Batkicked, or Panther armbarring Surfer. Essentially: PIS (imho)...


I just think its hysterical that the greatest minds and some of the most powerful characters in Marvel have no answer for the Sentry, but an antiquated robot from the early 1900's that can form fire does the trick. Think about that for a minute.

Some serious Hammond hating here.

I don't hate him. I think he's being a bit overrated here though. People thinking that an android that can form fire and go nova at best can take out one, if not the, most powerful hero in Marvel comics is mindboggling. Its only fire for cripes sake.

Originally posted by tkitna
I just think its hysterical that the greatest minds and some of the most powerful characters in Marvel have no answer for the Sentry, but an antiquated robot from the early 1900's that can form fire does the trick. Think about that for a minute.
I think thsts great, actually.

Originally posted by riv6672
I think thsts great, actually.

You probably love Toro too.

Originally posted by tkitna
I don't hate him. I think he's being a bit overrated here though. People thinking that an android that can form fire and go nova at best can take out one, if not the, most powerful hero in Marvel comics is mindboggling. Its only fire for cripes sake. I hate him.

I hate everything about him.

Originally posted by Mindset
I hate him.

I hate everything about him.

Like

Originally posted by tkitna
Like His stupid face.

Wait, I thought we were talking about Stilt. lulface

Originally posted by tkitna
You probably love Toro too.
I like the underdog pulling out the win over incredible odds. Its kind of the (original, non jaded, non internet) idea behind comics.
Like Hammond, guess i'm old fashioned.

Originally posted by riv6672
I like the underdog pulling out the win over incredible odds.

I like the bullies

To each his own.