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The Golden age JSA replace the JLA NU52 from the start of the start of the NU52 to its current timeline.

Basically does the G.A JSA survive JLA's NU52 frim its start to its most current?


The JSA (G.A)

Wildcat - replaces Batman
Shazam - replaces Superman
G.L (Alan) - replaces G.L Hal
Hawkgirl - replaces Wonder Woman
Dr.Fate (Kent) - replaces M.Manhunter
Flash (Jay) - replaces Flash (Barry)
Mr.Terrific - replaces Cyborg
Hawkman - replaces Aquaman

Terrific would be unable to hack motherboxes, imho. So no.

They'd do fine.
You lose a bit in skill/power/resources replacing Certain individuals, but gain more in others. Overall you're breaking even.
And a MB would (literally) never see Terry coming.

Originally posted by riv6672
They'd do fine.
You lose a bit in skill/power/resources replacing Certain individuals, but gain more in others. Overall you're breaking even.
And a MB would (literally) never see Terry coming.

What would that matter? Serious q, btw.

In the new52, when Apokolips attacked, only Cyborg was able to hack them to send the parademons home.

Because Terrific wasnt there.

Given Terrific's skill/power set i could see it being written that he could.
Like with Cyborg, it would be a "wow, this character is really stepping up in the rebooted DC continuity" moment for Terrific; that first year in the DCnu was practically made of those.

Not really sure why E-2 GA Wonder Woman wouldn't replace WW. but I agree with Riv. The JSA would handle anything the Nu52 JLA has.

As for Terry Sloane handling the hacking of an MB. We're talking about a guy who not only recognized in seconds that a guy he was fighting was from the Future but also ascertained in those seconds that he was his own descendant and afraid of allowing Terry to die for the risk of erasing himself from existence. Terry made the guy bug out by holding a gun to his own head and threatening to pull the trigger.

He deduced that in seconds with almost nothing to go on. Tet's also look at the fact that the Nu52 Terry Sloane cracked the 9th dimension and knew every weakness Apokalips had.

Originally posted by beatboks
Not really sure why E-2 GA Wonder Woman wouldn't replace WW. but I agree with Riv. The JSA would handle anything the Nu52 JLA has.

As for Terry Sloane handling the hacking of an MB. We're talking about a guy who not only recognized in seconds that a guy he was fighting was from the Future but also ascertained in those seconds that he was his own descendant and afraid of allowing Terry to die for the risk of erasing himself from existence. Terry made the guy bug out by holding a gun to his own head and threatening to pull the trigger.

He deduced that in seconds with almost nothing to go on. Tet's also look at the fact that the Nu52 Terry Sloane cracked the 9th dimension and knew every weakness Apokalips had.

Wait, which version of Terrific is here??

Holt (who is invisible to tech)
Sloan (who bugs guys out)
New 52 Sloan (who cracked the 9th dimension)?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait, which version of Terrific is here??

Holt (who is invisible to tech)
Sloan (who bugs guys out)
New 52 Sloan (who cracked the 9th dimension)?

Fair Question. OP never really specified.
Though I suppose if we're being thorough Nu52 Sloane went by the name Mr 8 (8th Wonder) not terrific.

I did post that the JSA was Golden age

Isnt golden age way weaker than silver age and up?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Isnt golden age way weaker than silver age and up?

No.

GA Cap Marvel is SA level Superman. Supes was actually powered up to match Cap from whiz comics who was outselling him (had sales over a million copies per issue). Pre the release of Whiz Supes was only able to leap tall buildibgs etc but his powers steadily rose from march 42 to the point that by 43 he was SA level.

Dr Fate had a lot of energy and matter manip showings in mbps the GA that put him SS level plus his magic and super strength etc. He could TK a planet out of orbit into a sun, and play with time like nothing.

HM and HG actually had showings of super strength beyond the few tons of the modern era (though no explaination as to why)

Flash (jay ) was light speed which in the moder era he's stated a few times he cant do, though has done with speed steal. He could also phase, be completely invisible with vibration and travelled time without a cosmic treadmill.

Alan could do anything a SA GL could, though he stil squarely had the wood weakness that he lost in the 90's. He was also shown to matter manip which modern lanterns havent.

I'd say power wise they were less restricted than SA

Interesting...

They don't do as Well period.

Wildcat isn't Batman equal in skill, intelligence or resources.
Hawkgirl likewise isn't WW equal in skill, power or resources.
Hawkman also inst Aquaman equal
CM is close but he's basically SM lite
Finally while I don't doubt Mr Terrific could eventually figure out how to send DS parademon home. I don't think he would survive long enough to come up with the solution.

I doubt they'd be written to lose.
The question for me is, given what we know of how things have gone down, could they feasibly do comparable things. And this team could, given the line up.

Originally posted by shadowknight
They don't do as Well period.

Wildcat isn't Batman equal in skill, intelligence or resources.
Hawkgirl likewise isn't WW equal in skill, power or resources.
Hawkman also inst Aquaman equal
CM is close but he's basically SM lite
Finally while I don't doubt Mr Terrific could eventually figure out how to send DS parademon home. I don't think he would survive long enough to come up with the solution.

OP has stated Golden age versions of each. Ga Cap Marvel was SA S I perman level. He's vastly above anything Nu52 or post COIE Supes ahs ever had to offer.

he could replace most of the team

^^^Not to mention Dr. Fate.

Anyway, i could see the Hawks replicating the DS eye gouge, and Wildcat slinking around Apokalips same as Batman did, from the JLA first story arc. Those'd be fun to see.

DCnU Terrific is pretty damn uber. Probably more formidable than his Pre-Flashpoint self in terms of big science feats.

Really? Is he still considered 3rd smartest?

Originally posted by riv6672
Really? Is he still considered 3rd smartest?

Hard to say. Mr. Terrific series didn't last long enough to reveal the list. The writer in an interview said he would reveal it and said you'd be surprised at who Is #1. I'd personally put DCnU Holt in the top 5 for sure. He was doing some impressive shit.

Did they ever show who was #1/2 in DCU?

Originally posted by Zack M
Hard to say. Mr. Terrific series didn't last long enough to reveal the list. The writer in an interview said he would reveal it and said you'd be surprised at who Is #1. I'd personally put DCnU Holt in the top 5 for sure. He was doing some impressive shit.
Damn, wish the writer's plans had come to pass.

Doc Fate alone is a force to be reckoned with

^^^I know, he helps even out the power discrepancies between the two teams. JLA wasnt magically inclined, though they had a couple of magical characters.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^I know, he helps even out the power discrepancies between the two teams. JLA wasnt magically inclined, though they had a couple of magical characters.

The thing is GA Dr Fate wasnt all that "magical". He was depicted in More Fun Comics and All Star more often than not as an energy/Matter manipulator with occasional mgic. Even that was more time and space manip than actual magic. In the GA he never once "cast a spell" or used an jncantation. Not even rituals and gestures. He supposedly was taught the secret of molecular control by Nabu and would draw on the energy of his adversaries. Hed often use the energy of who he fought against them.

^^^You arent really making a case for him being weak.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^You arent really making a case for him being weak. Oh I'm not trying to imply he's weak. What I mean is he doesn't suffer from the normal "weaknesses of magic users".


He could
matter manipulate
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/GADrFate1-1.jpg.html
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/GAFate2-1.jpg.html

Energy manipulate
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/Drfateenergymanipulator-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=85

play with time and space
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/TimespaceanddimensionholdnobarriertoDrFate.jpg.html?sort=3&o=42

Move a planet with nothing more than will
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/fatemovesaplanet-2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=62

Know anything
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/sectretshardtohidefromDrfate.jpg.html?sort=3&o=45

even in his half helmet era (the helmet with no magical power, when all Kent Nelson had was the physical powers given him by nabu's alteration and those of his training ) he had

Super Strength
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/AAanohelmetFatestrength.jpg.html?sort=3&o=37

Invulnerability except for lungs
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/halfhelmetDrFteendurance3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=38

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/half%20helmet%20fate%20bullet%20proof.jpg.html

http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/MoreFunComics76-Page19.jpg.html?sort=3&o=31

TP
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/doctor%20Fate/half%20helmet%20fate%20%20telepathy.jpg.html?sort=3&o=7

Also given that Alan Scot in the GA could also matter manipulate
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Alan%20Scot/GreenLanternChangesgoldtopaper.jpg.html?sort=3&o=21

phase
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Alan%20Scot/AllanScotusestehringforintangibility.jpg.html?sort=3&o=22

and do other things modern GL's can't.

The versatility and power of a few more than makes up for any shortcomings of the others.

Ah, cool, thought you meant the opposite. Thanks for all the info, too!