Versus Series Darth Maul (TCW) VS Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus VS Darth Vader

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DarthAnt66
/watch?v=e9b8s-iDSdE

Aurbere
1+ hour long video by Evannova? Nope.

Emperordmb
Wow, where Jensaarai1 shits on Zannah in every video, Evannova goes out of his way to shit on Bane.

And apparently Maul is a tactical retard and while in blade skill he's on par with Obi-Wan, Koon, and Shaak Ti, apparently in overall martial combat he is only comparable with Fisto, Mundi, and Jinn.

So far it's a great video thumb up

Emperordmb
LOL @ JENSAARAI1 CAMEO

Agusto Pinochet
five hour video wtf lol

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Wow, where Jensaarai1 shits on Zannah in every video, Evannova goes out of his way to shit on Bane.

How many people don't shit on Bane, iyo?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Emperordmb
LOL @ JENSAARAI1 CAMEO


No way! Must watch!

Kurk
Well, watched the entire thing. Pretty much agree with everything he and Jensaarai had to say. I am a Dooku fanboy and feel that he would have a winning chance if he (being perfect at Makashi big grin) quickly exploited a weakness in Vader before being beaten down.

Emperordmb
The Vader>Dooku>Maul conclusion is the correct one, however in reaching that conclusion he severely underrates Maul, putting him a tier beneath Obi-Wan, Shaak Ti, and Plo Koon in martial ability, and putting him beneath the majority of the Jedi council in control of the force and raw power in the force and for some reason he decides to randomly shit on Bane in the middle of the video with a criticism that doesn't even make sense. He also claims that Dooku can't handle a prolonged engagement or a committed offensive or defensive.

His conclusion is correct, but the way he gets there and justifies it is riddled with flaws.

Fated Xtasy
lol "can't handle prolonged combat"

Emperordmb
It's Evannova, I didn't expect much differently.

carthage
1:10:18

Does anyone have a scan for that Vader feat there?

Prof. T.C McAbe
Darth Vader > Dooku > Darth Maul

EmperorSidious2
He basically spent 1 hour+ on a video everyone already knew the answer to. Well made yea, but smart to do, I personally don't think so, but it kept me entertained.

DarthAnt66
inb4 chilled's "this video was wonderful! Incredibly insightful for my fan fictions no one reads besides that dead cat behind the alley way!"

chilled monkey
Originally posted by Agusto Pinochet
five hour video wtf lol

What?

It's one hour and twenty four minutes, not even close to five hours. Do you need your eyes checked or something?


Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He basically spent 1 hour+ on a video everyone already knew the answer to.

The answer's not important. What matters is how his observations/reasoning can help inspire ideas on how to write for similar characters.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
but it kept me entertained.

Glad we agree on that.

Originally posted by Kurk
I am a Dooku fanboy and feel that he would have a winning chance if he (being perfect at Makashi big grin) quickly exploited a weakness in Vader before being beaten down.

He'd have a chance, sure. Nobody always wins 100%. The video just determines the most likely winner.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
lol "can't handle prolonged combat"

He can't. Dooku himself notes this in the ROTS novel.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Wow, where Jensaarai1 shits on Zannah in every video,

Not always. In one he commented on how a bunch of people practically worship Zannah, a bunch think she's garbage and both are wrong. He further adds that Zannah has her strengths and weaknesses same as everyone else. If he just bashed her incessantly then you'd have a point, but he doesn't.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And apparently Maul is a tactical retard

He is. Remember this is TCW Maul. When in that did he ever display the kind of clever tactics he used against Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan? Never. EvanNova95 specifically pointed out the difference.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Incredibly insightful for my fan fictions no one reads besides that dead cat behind the alley way!"

Don't care. They're my babies and I love them.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Not always. In one he commented on how a bunch of people practically worship Zannah, a bunch think she's garbage and both are wrong. He further adds that Zannah has her strengths and weaknesses same as everyone else. If he just bashed her incessantly then you'd have a point, but he doesn't.
He brings her up randomly in videos to talk about how much he thinks her tactics fighting style and illusions suck. If he just did this in videos that involve Zannah that would be justifiable, but he does it in videos that have nothing to do with her.

And he thinks Tholme dances circles around her, that's some bullshit right there and is honestly the worst versus video verdict in my opinion.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
He is. Remember this is TCW Maul. When in that did he ever display the kind of clever tactics he used against Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan? Never. EvanNova95 specifically pointed out the difference.
When he captured Obi-Wan, when he controlled the ensuing fight with dun moch, when he threw his lightsaber knowing one of the Jedi would dodge it so it'd impale the other, when he found a group of natives turned them into a ****ing army and used them to rescue his brother, and when he stopped Obi-Wan from escaping Mandalore. Admittedly not as well when he fought Sidious, but I mean shit, you can't be that far beneath Sidious in power and actually expect to exert any degree of control over that fight.

chilled monkey
Originally posted by Emperordmb
He brings her up randomly in videos to talk about how much he thinks her tactics fighting style and illusions suck. If he just did this in videos that involve Zannah that would be justifiable, but he does it in videos that have nothing to do with her.

Fair comment although, as I said, at least he does give Zannah some credit. He's always acknowledged she has her strengths. That's more than some people do.

Also he does have a point that she is over-specialised. I don't see how you can disagree with him there. Having a strong defence is important of course, but in certain circumstances you don't always have time to wait for an opponent to tire himself out.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
And he thinks Tholme dances circles around her, that's some bullshit right there and is honestly the worst versus video verdict in my opinion.

I have to admit even I found that one dubious.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
When he captured Obi-Wan...

when he found a group of natives turned them into a ****ing army and used them to rescue his brother, and when he stopped Obi-Wan from escaping Mandalore.

None of those are examples of lightsabre combat. Evan's point was that TCW Maul was overall less tactical in lightsabre combat specifically, not in general.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
when he controlled the ensuing fight with dun moch,

Using taunts to upset/anger a foe is hardly amazing tactics.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
when he threw his lightsaber knowing one of the Jedi would dodge it so it'd impale the other

That is something but it's still less than what he pulled off in TPM.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Admittedly not as well when he fought Sidious, but I mean shit, you can't be that far beneath Sidious in power and actually expect to exert any degree of control over that fight.

True.

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by chilled monkey
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You can't even help yourself at this point, can you?

quanchi112
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You can't even help yourself at this point, can you? You just conceded with this blatant quote altering.

FreshestSlice
Concede to what?

1) This isn't a debate
2) This isn't a debate
3) Avoiding the point doesn't change it
and 4) This isn't a debate.

But considering you're even more predictable than chilled is, I'll get started on a sarcastic response to you ignoring that fact to flaunt around your undeserved sense of superiority.

quanchi112
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Concede to what?

1) This isn't a debate
2) This isn't a debate
3) Avoiding the point doesn't change it
and 4) This isn't a debate.

But considering you're even more predictable than chilled is, I'll get started on a sarcastic response to you ignoring that fact to flaunt around your undeserved sense of superiority. Again, quote altering is the lowest of the low. I've decimated you on more than one case with evidentiary based posts. You don't.

FreshestSlice
Lulz. Never change.

quanchi112
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lulz. Never change. Greatness never ceases to be great, sport.

chilled monkey
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You can't even help yourself at this point, can you?

No, I can't help being smart or having my own mind and opinions. It's just what I am.

NewGuy01
Its funny that you say that, as if insinuating the same weren't true of most of the people here. You do realize that you're the one who is religiously following the majority's bandwagon, right?

People here, as opposed to the casuals on Youtube, don't support Jensaarai/co. because we're actually educated on the source material, and don't blindly take everything they say at face value.

Beniboybling
Tbh the Anti-Jensaarai & co. stance (not that it isn't with merit) is just as much a bandwagon over here. Just sayin. wink

FreshestSlice
Yeah, if everyone joined the popular opinion because it was popular, as opposed to it being ****tarded to think otherwise, I could see that.

quanchi112
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Its funny that you say that, as if insinuating the same weren't true of most of the people here. You do realize that you're the one who is religiously following the majority's bandwagon, right?

People here, as opposed to the casuals on Youtube, don't support Jensaarai/co. because we're actually educated on the source material, and don't blindly take everything they say at face value. He is right about you. You just fall in line here and actually care about fitting in. Obvious.

DarthAnt66
Can't tell if you're referring to Sasukedc or chilled.

If chilled, thumb up.

If Sas, that's like, what you described is the opposite of him, kek

quanchi112
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Can't tell if you're referring to Sasukedc or chilled.

If chilled, thumb up.

If Sas, that's like, what you described is the opposite of him, kek New Guy.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Sas is clearly an insecure lemming, yeah.

FreshestSlice
He posts here, doesn't he?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Possibly. He might even be in this very thread.

FreshestSlice
He's definitely insecure then. Always being the new guy does that to you.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is right about you. You just fall in line here and actually care about fitting in. Obvious.

confused I was under the impression that here fell in line with me.



That's definitely the predominant stance here, but that doesn't have much bearing on the fact that we're in the overwhelming minority when it comes to YT VS.



You think so? I always thought being the new guy helped keep a measure of detachment from people's meddlesome antics.

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