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We are primarily looking for WINS in this thread. The person has to either win via incapacitation, TKO, KO or making the person incapable of fighting back due to either an internal or external power that is always on them. A win is a win in my books.

The catch to this is, the win has to be against someone in the Herald tier or above that tier. Who has the most victories without any plots within the last 3 yrs to 4 yr and how powerful was the person they were fighting. Tier please.

Contestants...

Thor
DCNU Superman
Hulk (all incarnations within this time period)
Surfer

Lol. Bait thread.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Bait thread. true. Give a answer she doesn't like and she will report you or put you on ignore.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
true. Give a answer she doesn't like and she will report you or put you on ignore.

We can have our own club!! No carvers allowed!

supes/trans tier

thorr didnt have a clean win against gorr so......

dont read hulk.

surfer.

Originally posted by ghostman
supes/trans tier

thorr didnt have a clean win against gorr so......

dont read hulk.

surfer.

Who did these people beat to get in the position you got them at?

Originally posted by carver9
Who did these people beat to get in the position you got them at?

supes/ rocking the shit outta he'l tearing doomsday in half

thor/ didnt beat gorr

dont read hulk

surfer/ what has he even done in the last 4 to 5 years combat wise? aside from that alternate surfer feat.

Please reread the thread. It's asking for the majority of wins...not a single high showing. Example, daredevil defeated Ultron but we know that isn't his average. So, what numerous of battles can you name that puts the person where he is at and please follow the thread.

Hulk hasn't beaten any heralds doe.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We can have our own club!! No carvers allowed!

Originally posted by carver9
We are primarily looking for WINS in this thread. The person has to either win via incapacitation, TKO, KO or making the person incapable of fighting back due to either an internal or external power that is always on them. A win is a win in my books.

The catch to this is, the win has to be against someone in the Herald tier or above that tier. Who has the most victories without any plots within the last 3 yrs to 4 yr and how powerful was the person they were fighting. Tier please.

Contestants...

Thor
DCNU Superman
Hulk (all incarnations within this time period)
Surfer
Probably Thor since around 2010. But 2015 not so much since Marvel went on a pro fem movement taking away his hammer and shelving the character for most of the year.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Probably Thor since around 2010. But 2015 not so much since Marvel went on a pro fem movement taking away his hammer and shelving the character for most of the year. Which sucks, because Aaron was actually doing him justice in those first few arcs. I picked up the first two hardcovers of his , then stopped when it got to the female Thor run. I'm just not interested in that. If I'm reading Thor, I want the real Thor.
But they've always ****ed his character. Sometimes I have a feeling Marvel hates Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
We are primarily looking for WINS in this thread. The person has to either win via incapacitation, TKO, KO or making the person incapable of fighting back due to either an internal or external power that is always on them. A win is a win in my books.

The catch to this is, the win has to be against someone in the Herald tier or above that tier. Who has the most victories without any plots within the last 3 yrs to 4 yr and how powerful was the person they were fighting. Tier please.

Contestants...

Thor
DCNU Superman
Hulk (all incarnations within this time period)
Surfer

Not counting World Breaker. What's the win loss ratio for Hulk since 2010?

Originally posted by Juntai
Which sucks, because Aaron was actually doing him justice in those first few arcs. I picked up the first two hardcovers of his , then stopped when it got to the female Thor run. I'm just not interested in that. If I'm reading Thor, I want the real Thor.
But they've always ****ed his character. Sometimes I have a feeling Marvel hates Thor.
The female Thor run is actually quite good.

They definitely don't hate him considering he's about to get his third self titled major motion picture.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Probably Thor since around 2010. But 2015 not so much since Marvel went on a pro fem movement taking away his hammer and shelving the character for most of the year.

Rank them though. You're pretty familiar with all of these people showings. For your first two, what FIGHTS made you put them in that position? Remember, it has to be won fights without plot.

Originally posted by "Id"
Not counting World Breaker. What's the win loss ratio for Hulk since 2010?

Especially herald level.

Carver stop ignoring me!

Originally posted by carver9
Rank them though. You're pretty familiar with all of these people showings. For your first two, what FIGHTS made you put them in that position? Remember, it has to be won fights without plot.
Didn't realize we're also including heralds.. Thought this was against above herald tier.

Actually he still may be ahead.

Hard to rank em since there are too many heralds runnin round. Plus Surf is at a disadvantage considering he didnt have a monthly for quite a while.

Originally posted by "Id"
Carver stop ignoring me!

Originally posted by carver9
http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/22952961_Hulk_2014-_015-011.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/22952962_Hulk_2014-_015-012.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/22952963_Hulk_2014-_015-013.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/22952964_Hulk_2014-_015-014.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/22952967_Hulk_2014-_015-015.jpg

Red hulk was amped. To the point that he/Hulk thought no one on the planet would be able to stop him. No one. I believe him since Red Hulk (and Hulk) was shaking the entire planet during their fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Red hulk was amped. To the point that he/Hulk thought no one on the planet would be able to stop him. No one. I believe him since Red Hulk (and Hulk) was shaking the entire planet during their fight.
It just means Red Hulk is strong as shiet(very powerful). There's a host of peeps that can stop him.

Originally posted by carver9
Red hulk was amped. To the point that he/Hulk thought no one on the planet would be able to stop him. No one. I believe him since Red Hulk (and Hulk) was shaking the entire planet during their fight.

That's a start but I asked for a list of victories and losses of Hulk.

Im asking you, since it's your topic. And you would be more knowledgeable than most of Hulk. And we can use your list as a point of reference.

Lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
facepalm

*sighs* is carver back on the "we gauge characters solely by the amount of collateral damage their battles cause" train?

Originally posted by carver9
I think you are basing your argument off of collateral damage and I disagree with everything you said. Example...we have seen what Hulk punching power could achieve (big worm showing and the shockwaves made during his fight with Ironman). Just because we didn't see that kind of power during his fight against Thor, would you say Hulk was holding back?

Some scenes are shown different. Sometimes you get an explosive showing of collateral damage and sometimes you don't. Doesn't mean the character was holding back.

Originally posted by carver9
I believe him since Red Hulk (and Hulk) was shaking the entire planet during their fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Sarcastic post my friend. I don't debate off of collateral damage. Dark does (whenever it suits him).

NY Resolution: can I create an entire thread of carver vs carver?

How about Superman ripping Doomsday in half Carver?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It just means Red Hulk is strong as shiet(very powerful). There's a host of peeps that can stop him.

I'm going to stick with the writers intent. Rulk absorbed so much radiation that Hulk, one of the smartest brains on the planet and someone who is highly familiar with everyone said that no one on the planet could stop him (minus himself of course). Rulk slept at a Nuclear radiation site for days and did nothing but absorb power.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How about Superman ripping Doomsday in half Carver?

That's one. What else you got?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
NY Resolution: can I create an entire thread of carver vs carver?

One day Carver is going to come to work with the intent of mass murder. Keep ****ing with him.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
One day Carver is going to come to work with the intent of mass murder. Keep ****ing with him.



He's on ignore so him driving me crazy is limited on how much people quote him.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It just means Red Hulk is strong as shiet(very powerful). There's a host of peeps that can stop him.

Physically? Not sure about that.

It DOES mean I get to run free, unfettered, with no ability for carver to fight back.

Literally like candy from a baby.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to stick with the writers intent. Rulk absorbed so much radiation that Hulk, one of the smartest brains on the planet and someone who is highly familiar with everyone said that no one on the planet could stop him (minus himself of course). Rulk slept at a Nuclear radiation site for days and did nothing but absorb power.
That's why we take all showings into consideration. It's like taking a statement like "he/she (insert name) is the most powerful being on the planet" and making that out to be as gospel. You should know by now that type of lip service comes a dime a dozen for upper tier characters.

Heck he could have been bfr'd if they really wanted to. And there's a handful of people who could do that off the bat.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Physically? Not sure about that.
Not many, but he can be stopped. And why only physically?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's why we take all showings into consideration. It's like taking a statement like "he/she (insert name) is the most powerful being on the planet" and making that out to be as gospel.

Heck he could have been bfr'd if they really wanted to. And there's a handful of people who could do that off the bat.

True and taking everything under consideration, while holding back and not using his amping abilities at all, Red Hulk was able to take a beating from Thor and also dish it against him and was ok afterwards until Thor laid Mjlonir on him. Red Hulk withstood attacks from a Phoenix host who was accessing half of the Phoenix power. Not naming everything he's done without using his absorption abilities but when he does use it, he tends to own people like Thor, Savage Hulk, Abomination, Terrax, Sentry, basically everyone he face. Now the difference is, he used his absorption against these people DURING combat whereas before fighting Hulk, he was absorbing nuclear radiation for days. Just feel pretty got darn safe at saying Hulk was telling the truth.

Originally posted by carver9
True and taking everything under consideration, while holding back and not using his amping abilities at all, Red Hulk was able to take a beating from Thor and also dish it against him and was ok afterwards until Thor laid Mjlonir on him. Red Hulk withstood attacks from a Phoenix host who was accessing half of the Phoenix power. Not naming everything he's done without using his absorption abilities but when he does use it, he tends to own people like Thor, Savage Hulk, Abomination, Terrax, Sentry, basically everyone he face. Now the difference is, he used his absorption against these people DURING combat whereas before fighting Hulk, he was absorbing nuclear radiation for days. Just feel pretty got darn safe at saying Hulk was telling the truth.
Rulk's energy absorbing abilities were diminished. It's just not the same as compared to his earlier showings. Plus Deadpool cut him off from the radiation amp when Hulk fought him a second time. Yes he was amping himself prior to the fight, but he just isn't the same with his absorbing ability.

And you didn't answer bfr. He could have been punted off the planet. It's Hulks comic so Hulk had to be used for the center stage.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Rulk's energy absorbing abilities were diminished. It's just not the same as compared to his earlier showings. Plus Deadpool cut him off from the radiation amp when Hulk fought him a second time. Yes he was amping himself prior to the fight, but he just isn't the same with his absorbing ability.

And you didn't answer bfr. He could have been punted off the planet. It's Hulks comic so Hulk had to be used for the center stage.

Diminished? He decided not to use it because he found out that it would prevent him from turning back into his human form. Doesn't mean that it is weaker than it was before unless you have proof of this. He decided to use it and told us that he was using it to the point that Hulk said nothing wouldn't be able to stop him if he didn't stop him. Yes, Deadpool shot him with the bullet but his prior absorption was still their.

Lol...Hulk could of punted him off the planet, IF it was that easy. Bfring someone isn't as easy as you are trying to make it. Especially concern I no super bricks. Here's a good example...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1362856-trinity_05003.jpg

Trying to Bfr a super brick? You're setting yourself up to get punched in the face, hard.]

Originally posted by carver9
Diminished? He decided not to use it because he found out that it would prevent him from turning back into his human form. Doesn't mean that it is weaker than it was before unless you have proof of this. He decided to use it and told us that he was using it to the point that Hulk said nothing wouldn't be able to stop him if he didn't stop him. Yes, Deadpool shot him with the bullet but his prior absorption was still their.

Lol...Hulk could of punted him off the planet, IF it was that easy. Bfring someone isn't as easy as you are trying to make it. Especially concern I no super bricks. Here's a good example...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1362856-trinity_05003.jpg

Trying to Bfr a super brick? You're setting yourself up to get punched in the face, hard.]
Wait so his absorption ability is the same as it ever was from the time of his earlier showings?

Well anyways it's not impossible to bfr super bricks. Hulk's Hulk (Kluh) was bfr'd by a weakened and damaged Nova.
http://i.imgur.com/hxjnsUE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KUgLoyY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wnij51H.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dPYhNGe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qg0KeL7.jpg

Not to mention fem Thor could probably send him in deep space before he even gets a chance to blink.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wait so his absorption ability is the same as it ever was from the time of his earlier showings?

Well anyways it's not impossible to bfr super bricks. Hulk's Hulk (Kluh) was bfr'd by a weakened and damaged Nova.
http://i.imgur.com/hxjnsUE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KUgLoyY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wnij51H.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dPYhNGe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qg0KeL7.jpg

Not to mention fem Thor could probably send him in deep space before he even gets a chance to blink.

Yes...exactly the same.

Kluh was cocky against Nova. He could've ended it at any time. I'm talking about a serious brick that is preventing such tactic.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes...exactly the same.

Kluh was cocky against Nova. He could've ended it at any time. I'm talking about a serious brick that is preventing such tactic.
I could have sworn his absorption capabilities were diminished.


Kluh was out to kill. He was basically a no morals Hulk and nearly killed him the first go around. Kluh probably thought he killed him.

Rulk can only absorb from gamma mutates. So no, not exactly the same.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I could have sworn his absorption capabilities were diminished.


Kluh was out to kill. He was basically a no morals Hulk and nearly killed him the first go around. Kluh probably thought he killed him. I'm not so sure about that. If kluh was going all out, why would he spend time munching on nova's arm instead of straight up biting his head off? Your speculation on whether or not he thought he killed him the first time proves nothing.

Originally posted by deathslash
I'm not so sure about that. If kluh was going all out, why would he spend time munching on nova's arm instead of straight up biting his head off? Your speculation on whether or not he thought he killed him the first time proves nothing.

Lol...you beat me to it. He could've ended it a long time ago.

Back at Celey. Well, I'm not the be all end all when it comes to every appearance so if you have something where Rulk absorption was depleted, I would love to see it.

Originally posted by deathslash
I'm not so sure about that. If kluh was going all out, why would he spend time munching on nova's arm instead of straight up biting his head off? Your speculation on whether or not he thought he killed him the first time proves nothing.
That was the point of Kluh. He had no qualms about killing.
In fact, he threw a car occupied by a couple. If not for Nova catching it, they would have been murdered.

You make it seem like Kluh wasn't trying to kill him. He bit an outstretched arm of Nova's. He even said as much in their next encounter.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That was the point of Kluh. He had no qualms about killing.
In fact, he threw a car occupied by a couple. If not for Nova catching it, they would have been murdered.

You make it seem like Kluh wasn't trying to kill him. He bit an outstretched arm of Nova's. He even said as much in their next encounter.

He chewed on his arm for a while. If he really wanted to kill him he could have.

Is this trying to kill someone?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20966685/Nova_2013-_023-011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20966686/Nova_2013-_023-012.jpg.html

Biting someone arm isnt trying to kill them. It's toying with your pray. Kluh could've taken him out at any time as shown when his only punched almost killed Nova.

Originally posted by carver9
He chewed on his arm for a while. If he really wanted to kill him he could have.
Carver... He tried to bite his arm off. How does that equate to not wanting to kill him? He nearly killed Sam with his final attack.

Originally posted by carver9
Is this trying to kill someone?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20966685/Nova_2013-_023-011.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20966686/Nova_2013-_023-012.jpg.html

Biting someone arm isnt trying to kill them. It's toying with your pray. Kluh could've taken him out at any time as shown when his only punched almost killed Nova.
There was every intent to kill. If anything that was a good durability feat for Nova considering how strong Kluh/Hulk is.

And no one here is saying he could not kill Nova. If Sam didn't land so far away as he did, I have no doubt Kluh would have finished him off.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Carver... He tried to bite his arm off. How does that equate to not wanting to kill him? He nearly killed Sam with his final attack.


There was every intent to kill. If anything that was a good durability feat for Nova considering how strong Kluh/Hulk is.

He's not trying to bite his arm "off". Look at the scans. What he was doing wasn't the intent to kill.

Lol.

Originally posted by carver9
He's not trying to bite his arm "off". Look at the scans. What he was doing wasn't the intent to kill.
Not sure why anyone would think there was no intent to kill when a few pages prior he literally tried to murder an old couple. And now here comes a guy who's actually fighting back, but this time around he wasn't trying to kill. Add in the fact that he voiced out the intent to kill at the beginning of their next encounter.

It also doesn't help that this was a no morals version of Hulk.

Anyways, I'd rather move on. If you think he wasn't trying to kill Sam that's your prerogative.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not sure why anyone would think there was no intent to kill when a few pages prior he literally tried to murder an old couple. And now here comes a guy who's actually fighting back, but this time around he wasn't trying to kill. Add in the fact that he voiced out the intent to kill at the beginning of their next encounter.

It also doesn't help that this was a no morals version of Hulk.

Anyways, I'd rather move on. If you think he wasn't trying to kill Sam that's your prerogative.

If he wanted him dead he would have killed him instead of chewing on his arm. Chewing someone arm isnt something a stone cold killer would do if that is his intent.

Kluh was just hungry.

Lol at biting someone in the arm equalling not trying to bite an arm off or kill.

The human arm is apparently a lizard tail.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Lol at biting someone in the arm equalling not trying to bite an arm off or kill.

The human arm is apparently a lizard tail.

Kluh also knows this; that's why he bit Nova.

He knew it would cause zero damage, and was taking it easy on him.

Carver canon

What ever happened to Kluh? I guess he was reverted or whatever, but how did he go down?

Also, is Red Hulk ever gonna return?

Originally posted by carver9
Diminished? He decided not to use it because he found out that it would prevent him from turning back into his human form. Doesn't mean that it is weaker than it was before unless you have proof of this. He decided to use it and told us that he was using it to the point that Hulk said nothing wouldn't be able to stop him if he didn't stop him. Yes, Deadpool shot him with the bullet but his prior absorption was still their.

Lol...Hulk could of punted him off the planet, IF it was that easy. Bfring someone isn't as easy as you are trying to make it. Especially concern I no super bricks. Here's a good example...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1362856-trinity_05003.jpg

Trying to Bfr a super brick? You're setting yourself up to get punched in the face, hard.] The writer doesn't understand that hitting someone to space takes astronomically less force than shattering a small planet.

But in a forum, if Superman is strong enough to shatter a small planet, then he can hit any humanoid being into space. There is no writer to phuck the logic up here.

Originally posted by carver9
If he wanted him dead he would have killed him instead of chewing on his arm. Chewing someone arm isnt something a stone cold killer would do if that is his intent.
Btw he was about to murder Sam's teacher right before their 2nd encounter. But ure right... Kluh is no killer.

Originally posted by h1a8
The writer doesn't understand that hitting someone to space takes astronomically less force than shattering a small planet.

But in a forum, if Superman is strong enough to shatter a small planet, then he can hit any humanoid being into space. There is no writer to phuck the logic up here. comics don't work like that, stop been a moron all your life.

Don't bash.

Originally posted by carver9
Trying to Bfr a super brick? You're setting yourself up to get punched in the face, hard.]

So ignorant.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Don't bash. I agree his logic bashes us with stupidity.

Superman > Surfer > Thor > Hulk @thread