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Without appealing to the senses.

Obvious attempt at inciting an argument is obvious.

I was rather thinking that it is impossible to prove.

BTW Solipsism sure is fun

Prove it doesn't.

Originally posted by Stigma
Without appealing to the senses.
I can't.

Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
Prove it doesn't.
I can't.

Originally posted by Astner
I can't.


I can't.
Well looks like we have ourselves a stalemate. I'll rely on my senses when I exit a building through the front door and Stigma can exit through the highest window.

Prove the sensory world exists w/o appealing to the senses.

Nice.

Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
Well looks like we have ourselves a stalemate. I'll rely on my senses when I exit a building through the front door and Stigma can exit through the highest window.
Siding with an answer to a question you don't have the answer to does not make you any less ignorant.

What would constitute a valid proof?

Originally posted by Astner
Siding with an answer to a question you don't have the answer to does not make you any less ignorant.
No it doesn't, but between being ignorant and alive vs ignorant and dead, I'll choose the former.

Originally posted by Bentley
What would constitute a valid proof?
If he knew that he wouldn't be asking us to prove the external universe exist. If you're asking what he's asking for, then he's asking us to prove the external universe exist by using rationalism not empiricism. But he also makes it clear that he's asking for the "external" world, rationalism requires you to think of something, so "external" might not apply.

He's basically asking us to prove unicorns or bigfoot exist without using physical proof.

Very relevant
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There has to be some external world, otherwise my mind wouldn't have something to bounce off of to develop over time.

Originally posted by Stigma
Without appealing to the senses.


Vibration


End Of Discussion.

Originally posted by Mindship
Prove the sensory world exists w/o appealing to the senses.

Nice. Prove the Anti-Matter Universe exist without being there.

Nice

Originally posted by shiv
Vibration


End Of Discussion. Touch/Hearing

Originally posted by Stigma
Without appealing to the senses.

What do you mean by external world?

Bump
Stigma, what is the answer to Josh's question? Is the external world everything except for our body? Or everything except for our awareness? Or something else?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Bump
Stigma, what is the answer to Josh's question? Is the external world everything except for our body? Or everything except for our awareness? Or something else?
Let's make it interesting. External world as in everything except our body.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Prove the Anti-Matter Universe exist without being there.

Nice

where did we find this guy

It's real for a good reason and philosophy is part of it.
Good question by the way a philosopher should be able to prove this.
Kang the Conquer
Time

There is, to my knowledge, no 100% concrete way to prove that the external world exists without appealing to one's sense data, and even said sense data doesn't actually completely prove that the external world exists. We assume that the external world exists. However, that assumption is better-supported than the assumption that there is no world outside of our minds or bodies. There is little to no reason to suppose that there's nothing that exists independently of myself.

St. Thomas recieved the proof for us.