Starbreaker VERSUS Thanos: TO THE DEATH

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LordofBrooklyn
Starbreaker-

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/3762549-8925325541-starb.jpg

VERSUS

Thanos

http://static.srcdn.com/slir/w620-h320-q90-c620:320/wp-content/uploads/Marvel-Comics-Infinity-Part-One-Cover-Thanos.jpg

TO THE DEATH!!!

Prof. T.C McAbe
Starbreaker every single time.

the Darkone
Im a Thanos fan but I gotta go with Starbreaker here he's at least Sky Father level

DarkSaint85
Surely Thanos can't die?

carver9
Thanos

Zack M
Starbreaker is in another league.

Diesldude
Does Thanos have access to his tech?

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Diesldude
Does Thanos have access to his tech?

Yes, the Mad Titan has his tech.

the Darkone
Thanks tech won't make a difference, he fighting a sky father level

Diesldude
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thanks tech won't make a difference, he fighting a sky father level

Isn't he an energy based being though and thanos is smart enough to take advantage of this with tech.

DarkSaint85
How do you kill Thanos?

h1a8
He doesn't have the death curse anymore. Deadpool now has the curse right?
It was implied that Galactus could have killed Thanos.

DarkSaint85
Thanos CURSED Deadpool, IIRC.

So he has the power to give it - hence, still, the avatar of Death or whatever.

leonidas
he CAN still be ko'd, and i'd assume starbreaker has the power needed to do that....

Delta1938
Originally posted by leonidas
he CAN still be ko'd, and i'd assume starbreaker has the power needed to do that....

Reread the thread title.

leonidas
embarrasment

those kinds of matches with thanos are just....dumb. would keeping him perpetually ko'd count as dead?? big grin

Delta1938
Originally posted by leonidas
embarrasment

those kinds of matches with thanos are just....dumb. would keeping him perpetually ko'd count as dead?? big grin

This is at least the third time I've had to do something like this with you. stick out tongue

I don't think it would count. sad And yeah, it is dumb. So, I say Starbreaker KOs Thanos, and then leaves the battlefield, unaware the rules are to the death, thus Thanos wins by unintentional forfeit!!

leonidas
just 3.... stick out tongue

meh, maybe yur right. nah.... yur wrong. big grin

Delta1938
Originally posted by leonidas
just 3.... stick out tongue

I'm sure won't end at 3. evil face

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, maybe yur right. nah.... yur wrong. big grin

Er.....what I am supposed to be wrong about? confused

basilisk
That version of Starbreaker was pretty damn powerful. I don't see Thanos beating him at all in a fight. But to the death? I guess killing him may count as a win even if he resurrects afterwards.

leonidas
Originally posted by Delta1938
I'm sure won't end at 3. evil face



Er.....what I am supposed to be wrong about? confused

anything we disagree on... shifty

Genii96
What did that starbreaker do?

RadZoa
What can Starbreaker do?

Delta1938
Originally posted by leonidas
anything we disagree on... shifty

Pffft So says the guy who needs the topic pointed-out to him!! mad

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by RadZoa
What can Starbreaker do?

Starbreaker has dominated the JLA.

Genii96
Dominating the JLA makes him a skyfather level being?

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by Genii96
Dominating the JLA makes him a skyfather level being?

To JLA fanboys? Puts him at TOAA levels or higher.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
To JLA fanboys? Puts him at TOAA levels or higher.

SILENCE, SWINE!!!!

Genii96
So what exctly DID he do for dc fans to call him a skyfather level exactly?

ghostman
Originally posted by Genii96
So what exctly DID he do for dc fans to call him a skyfather level exactly?

i agree, dc fans need to stop throwing out the term skyfather. if he aint atleast small galaxy level hes not a damn skyfather, no matter how many teams hes wrecked.

Zack M
Starbreaker.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by ghostman
i agree, dc fans need to stop throwing out the term skyfather. if he aint atleast small galaxy level hes not a damn skyfather, no matter how many teams hes wrecked.

thumb up

That's reserved for high end peeps.

Surtur
So yeah what specific feats does Starbreaker actually have to put him above Thanos. You can take on the JLA in a lot of different ways depending on your powerset.

Like for instance did this thing show any kind of psionic resistance?

DarkSaint85
Why does Starbreaker need to be 'Skyfather' level? What does that even mean?

carver9
Originally posted by Surtur
So yeah what specific feats does Starbreaker actually have to put him above Thanos. You can take on the JLA in a lot of different ways depending on your powerset.

Like for instance did this thing show any kind of psionic resistance?

He isn't skyfather and people far less than Thanos has taken on the JLA And won.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
He isn't skyfather and people far less than Thanos has taken on the JLA And won.

Squirrel Girl.

Surtur
Okay well I never said he was skyfather or that you needed to be skyfather level to beat the JLA. I just asked for feats for Starbreaker.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay well I never said he was skyfather or that you needed to be skyfather level to beat the JLA. I just asked for feats for Starbreaker.

Killed Dharma, who was 'holding the universe together':
http://i.imgur.com/gbEQGtv.jpg

Was hit by Zatanna using everything she had, and not disappearing...
http://i.imgur.com/hlMyb6T.jpg

Owned Firestorm:
http://i.imgur.com/KFGg2ky.jpg

Some lip service:
http://i.imgur.com/vTUh3GN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/88auUdU.jpg

Absorbs the energy of three suns:
http://i.imgur.com/QeBHsHb.jpg

Still, not sure how he can kill an unkillable being.

carver9
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay well I never said he was skyfather or that you needed to be skyfather level to beat the JLA. I just asked for feats for Starbreaker.

I know, buddy.

DarkSaint85
Oh, he also absorbs kinetic energy:
http://i.imgur.com/K147MO8.jpg

So Thanos' best bet is to drain his energy or something.

For Surture, in terms of psionic resistance, he's thrown Bloodwynd out of his mind:
http://i.imgur.com/FAUn4t8.jpg

carver9
Thanos telepathically rapes him and then beat his corpse to mush.

DarkSaint85
That wouldn't kill him.

carver9
Scans of him resisting a mind attack on the level of Thanos. If not, he gets mind wiped and then Thanos can do whatever he wants to him.

DarkSaint85
Agreed.

That WOULDN'T KILL Starbreaker.

As I said before, Thanos wins this, as I cannot see how Thanos dies.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed.

That WOULDN'T KILL Starbreaker.

As I said before, Thanos wins this, as I cannot see how Thanos dies.

Are you implying Thanos doesn't have the power to harm Starbreaker?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Are you implying Thanos doesn't have the power to harm Starbreaker?

TO KILL HIM.

Jeez, carver, are you being super dense today? Read OP. Read the title. Read my words.

Jeez.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
TO KILL HIM.

Jeez, carver, are you being super dense today? Read OP. Read the title. Read my words.

Jeez.

I'm asking you if he can harm Starbreaker physically. If he can then he can most definitely kill him. If he can't, can you please post evidence backing your claim. Thanos was able to harm Galactus...

http://i.imgur.com/xJmkk0q.jpg

I feel confident that once Thanos mind rapes Starbreaker, he does have the power to finish the job.

DarkSaint85
Because Starbreaker can exist as an incorporeal entity. So nothing to physically punch.

carver9
What's the final form Starbreaker was end before his defeat?

DarkSaint85
You tell me.

carver9
Physical which is whats being used here.

DarkSaint85
Did he end up dead at the end? Which is what is being used here.

SquallX
Originally posted by carver9
I'm asking you if he can harm Starbreaker physically. If he can then he can most definitely kill him. If he can't, can you please post evidence backing your claim. Thanos was able to harm Galactus...

http://i.imgur.com/xJmkk0q.jpg

I feel confident that once Thanos mind rapes Starbreaker, he does have the power to finish the job.

Learn too read. Someone already posted a scan of Starbreaker killing a being that held the Universe together, that's far above Galactus.

carver9
Originally posted by SquallX
Learn too read. Someone already posted a scan of Starbreaker killing a being that held the Universe together, that's far above Galactus.

How durable is this being? Answer this correctly because I will hold whatever you say against you in future debate (Beerus).

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did he end up dead at the end? Which is what is being used here.

The JLA was physically able to hit him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
The JLA was physically able to hit him.

BUT NOT KILL HIM.

Can Thanos harm him physically? Yes.

Can he kill him physically? No.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BUT NOT KILL HIM.

Can Thanos harm him physically? Yes.

Can he kill him physically? No.

So he can go into this form you brought up after being mind raped? Scans please.

DarkSaint85
He goes into this form after his physical body is destroyed. Fancy some scans?

carver9
So thats all I need to show is Thanos absorbing energy, correct?

DarkSaint85
Exactly.

See my post:



Now, the next stage is to see HOW much energy Thanos can absorb. After all, we wouldn't want to have no-limits, right?

Remember, Starbreaker will be starting off at his normal levels, not explicitly amped, and not drained.

Here, he is 'sated', by feeding on Vega, and taking 100 million years off it's lifespan:

http://imgur.com/a/fi8Th

Vega is twice the size of our Sun:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vega

That's a LOT of energy.

Btw, what is your take on this scene?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27500/690264-justice_league_of_america__29___page_16.jpg

Is Superman pulling the Earth on his own? Or is GL adding his strength to it?

DarkSaint85
Here, his energy was being siphoned off (in Dr Light's words, 'tremendous amounts') by Firestorm and Dr Light. He could still casually break GL Stewart's shields etc:

http://i.imgur.com/5UzstmN.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Exactly.

See my post:



Now, the next stage is to see HOW much energy Thanos can absorb. After all, we wouldn't want to have no-limits, right?

Remember, Starbreaker will be starting off at his normal levels, not explicitly amped, and not drained.

Here, he is 'sated', by feeding on Vega, and taking 100 million years off it's lifespan:

http://imgur.com/a/fi8Th

Vega is twice the size of our Sun:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vega

That's a LOT of energy.

Btw, what is your take on this scene?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27500/690264-justice_league_of_america__29___page_16.jpg

Is Superman pulling the Earth on his own? Or is GL adding his strength to it?

He's feeding on Vega? Where in your scans is he doing that? Also, that's an Amp. We go by characters at their normal levels.

I'm not answer your question about the Superman and GL scan. I see what you are trying to do.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
He's feeding on Vega? Where in your scans is he doing that? Also, that's an Amp. We go by characters at their normal levels.

I'm not answer your question about the Superman and GL scan. I see what you are trying to do.

He's shown in the first link in my previous post. Female Dr Light (seen in the scan) is a physical link to Vega, so he drains it through her (as confirmed by the Omega Men).

Is it an amp? What is a baseline Starbreaker, please? Scans.

DarkSaint85
Btw, the question IS valid.

Starbreaker was casually no -selling Superman's blows:
http://i.imgur.com/OQD0fOp.jpg

How strong is Superman? Well, we can cross showings from various different time periods, and various different writers, and various different storylines, and it would be inconsistent (DoS Superman, for example, vs OWAW Superman).

So to avoid all inconsistency, let's look at what Superman did in THAT very same story.

And he was pulling the Earth:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117308/2715181-comic_hal_jordan_supes_pulling_earth.png

Unless you think Hal was helping him out? With his strength added to Superman's?

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Btw, the question IS valid.

Starbreaker was casually no -selling Superman's blows:
http://i.imgur.com/OQD0fOp.jpg

How strong is Superman? Well, we can cross showings from various different time periods, and various different writers, and various different storylines, and it would be inconsistent (DoS Superman, for example, vs OWAW Superman).

So to avoid all inconsistency, let's look at what Superman did in THAT very same story.

And he was pulling the Earth:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117308/2715181-comic_hal_jordan_supes_pulling_earth.png

Unless you think Hal was helping him out? With his strength added to Superman's?

I see what you did there.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Btw, the question IS valid.

Starbreaker was casually no -selling Superman's blows:
http://i.imgur.com/OQD0fOp.jpg

How strong is Superman? Well, we can cross showings from various different time periods, and various different writers, and various different storylines, and it would be inconsistent (DoS Superman, for example, vs OWAW Superman).

So to avoid all inconsistency, let's look at what Superman did in THAT very same story.

And he was pulling the Earth:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117308/2715181-comic_hal_jordan_supes_pulling_earth.png

Unless you think Hal was helping him out? With his strength added to Superman's?
wink

DarkSaint85
I'm sure carver will explain it for us.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Thanos was able to harm Galactus...

http://i.imgur.com/xJmkk0q.jpg The very next page:
http://i.imgur.com/uuelPIz.jpg


smile

Delta1938
Originally posted by Galan007
The very next page:
http://i.imgur.com/uuelPIz.jpg


smile

Coward9 only looking at the pretty pictures? What a shocker. eek!

DarkSaint85
I'm sure carver will defend himself!

DarkSaint85
Carver?

ghostman
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver?


lol youre such a dick to him laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
The very next page:
http://i.imgur.com/uuelPIz.jpg


smile

Nothing happened to Galactus?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Btw, the question IS valid.

Starbreaker was casually no -selling Superman's blows:
http://i.imgur.com/OQD0fOp.jpg

How strong is Superman? Well, we can cross showings from various different time periods, and various different writers, and various different storylines, and it would be inconsistent (DoS Superman, for example, vs OWAW Superman).

So to avoid all inconsistency, let's look at what Superman did in THAT very same story.

And he was pulling the Earth:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117308/2715181-comic_hal_jordan_supes_pulling_earth.png

Unless you think Hal was helping him out? With his strength added to Superman's?

Can Superman push something with his heat vision? Can Quasar pull something with his constructs? Can Magneto move metal? Can Cyclops push object with his optic blast? You might as well make all of these characters class 100 beings? You're trying to hard like usual. I will keep saying this about you.

carver9
Originally posted by Delta1938
Coward9 only looking at the pretty pictures? What a shocker. eek!

The pictures are very nice. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Can Superman push something with his heat vision? Can Quasar pull something with his constructs? Can Magneto move metal? Can Cyclops push object with his optic blast? You might as well make all of these characters class 100 beings? You're trying to hard like usual. I will keep saying this about you.

So Superman pulled it purely by his own lonesome strength?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Superman pulled it purely by his own lonesome strength?

He could've asked Cyclops with his class 100 strength to push it from the other end. His blast has thrown people to other countries. Amazing strength ft for class 100 Cyclops.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
He could've asked Cyclops with his class 100 strength to push it from the other end. His blast has thrown people to other countries. Amazing strength ft for class 100 Cyclops.

Yes or no? Simple question. Did Superman pull the Earth with his own strength?

Relevant, of course, to this thread.

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Superman pulled it purely by his own lonesome strength?

Stop quoting him, I have him on Ignore. mad

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes or no? Simple question. Did Superman pull the Earth with his own strength?

Relevant, of course, to this thread.

Superman isn't in this thread.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Superman isn't in this thread.

But we know Starbreaker tanked punches from him.

So how strong was that Superman? Did he pull the Earth on his own?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But we know Starbreaker tanked punches from him.

So how strong was that Superman? Did he pull the Earth on his own?

Tanked punches from Superman? I'm trying to see where you are going with this. Let's say if Superman did pull it by himself, that ft is planetary, let's say if he didn't pull it, I would still probably give him planetary strength. Planetary means nothing to someone like Thanos since he did survive a Galaxy destroying blast. That's if we are just clinging to high showings. He also withstood the power of a cube. That's again if we are just sticking to High showings. So there's no need for me to answer your question since for one, a pulling ft doesn't equal punching power and two, Thanos has endured far worse than planetary power.

Hope that helps with your question.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Tanked punches from Superman? I'm trying to see where you are going with this. Let's say if Superman did pull it by himself, that ft is planetary, let's say if he didn't pull it, I would still probably give him planetary strength. Planetary means nothing to someone like Thanos since he did survive a Galaxy destroying blast. That's if we are just clinging to high showings. He also withstood the power of a cube. That's again if we are just sticking to High showings. So there's no need for me to answer your question since for one, a pulling ft doesn't equal punching power and two, Thanos has endured far worse than planetary power.

Hope that helps with your question.

So did Superman pull the Earth under his own strength? That's all I am asking. Yes/no?

Edit: your constant dancing around means that you're desperately trying to avoid it. Wonder why.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So did Superman pull the Earth under his own strength? That's all I am asking. Yes/no?

Edit: your constant dancing around means that you're desperately trying to avoid it. Wonder why.

You said you're using it because Starbreaker endured Superman blows (who doesn't have a thing to do with this thread). What I'm telling you is that showing is irrelevant since Thanos has endured more than Herald level power. Stay on the topic. This reminds me of 6 our question about Proxima holding the weight of the sun in her hand.

DarkSaint85
Nvm.

Originally posted by carver9
Hal helped him move/contain Earth.

Originally posted by carver9
With that said, show me something stating Hal didn't participate in pulling Earth.

Originally posted by carver9
So Hal wasn't pulling?

IYO, Hal, a GL, assisted Superman in pulling Earth. IYO, GL constructs have a physical strength level. What that level is, is debatable, of course. But Superman is not at all that strong, based on the belief that he needs help from GL to pull the Earth. Thanks.

With that said, join me over here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=623362&pagenumber=5

Then we can answer this question:
Originally posted by carver9
So Allen Scott is PHYSICALLY stronger than Adam?

What fts does Johnny have?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nvm.







IYO, Hal, a GL, assisted Superman in pulling Earth. IYO, GL constructs have a physical strength level. What that level is, is debatable, of course. But Superman is not at all that strong, based on the belief that he needs help from GL to pull the Earth. Thanks.

With that said, join me over here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=623362&pagenumber=5

Then we can answer this question:

You're trolling Dark and completely going off topic. Him withstanding Superman punches, is that his best durability showing?

Rao Kal El
Starbreaker is immortal

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by carver9
You're trolling Dark and completely going off topic. Him withstanding Superman punches, is that his best durability showing?

Dark is just allowing his allegiance to show through. Superman is the only barometer in their mind, that's why every debate ends up being a Superman debate.

Thanos would thoroughly **** over that one dimensional G lister. He is vulnerable to draining, Thanos is beyond genius level, so....

And what's up with the "he's a skyfather" bullshit? Tell that to Odin and Lord Mar-vell.

DarkSaint85
Actually, Green Lantern was the barometer, or did you not read?

Rao Kal El
Lol at the idiot trying to downplay Statbreaker tanking Superman's punches.

Starbreaker was even laughing and unaffected by Superman's punches.

I don't even remember any villain pulling a feat like that, maybe anti monitor but that's it.

Faceless808
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Dark is just allowing his allegiance to show through. Superman is the only barometer in their mind, that's why every debate ends up being a Superman debate.

Thanos would thoroughly **** over that one dimensional G lister. He is vulnerable to draining, Thanos is beyond genius level, so....

And what's up with the "he's a skyfather" bullshit? Tell that to Odin and Lord Mar-vell.

On the contrary, DarkSaint is very unbiased on his opinions when it comes to DC and Marvel. Can you say the same thing?

celeyhyga17
Darktaint is the most biased poster. Everyone knows that. Plus Carver said so.

Rao Kal El

DarkSaint85
Well, in Whoville they say - that DS85's small e-peen grew three sizes that day!!

Surtur
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Killed Dharma, who was 'holding the universe together':


Was hit by Zatanna using everything she had, and not disappearing...
http://i.imgur.com/hlMyb6T.jpg

Owned Firestorm:
http://i.imgur.com/KFGg2ky.jpg

Some lip service:
http://i.imgur.com/vTUh3GN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/88auUdU.jpg

Absorbs the energy of three suns:
http://i.imgur.com/QeBHsHb.jpg

Still, not sure how he can kill an unkillable being.

Well hold on are we supposed to take the "holding the universe together" thing as hyperbole? Because that feat alone is above skyfather level to me, so defeating something like that would indeed make this character way above Thanos. Thanos would at best be like an indestructible ant.

DarkSaint85
Nah, hyperbole would be something like this:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/4652965-1923950069-vTUh3.jpg

Surtur
Well no I know what hyperbole is, I was just asking because that is the only excuse I could see for that feat to not put him way above skyfathers.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Surtur
Well hold on are we supposed to take the "holding the universe together" thing as hyperbole? Because that feat alone is above skyfather level to me, so defeating something like that would indeed make this character way above Thanos. Thanos would at best be like an indestructible ant.
No. Dharma had indeed done all that and more.



http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16261816_1.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16261822_2.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16261826_3.jpg

Fun fact, Darkseid's fall in Final Crisis had destroyed entire Milestone universe.

Surtur
So was that because Darkseid is just so damn powerful or is it because of the specific way it all went down or what?

abhilegend
Originally posted by Surtur
So was that because Darkseid is just so damn powerful or is it because of the specific way it all went down or what?
Just how powerful he was.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
So was that because Darkseid is just so damn powerful or is it because of the specific way it all went down or what? Just the way it went down.

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