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Did 3boot Karate Kid cause an avalanche by casually slapping the base of a mountain while training Ultra Boy? If not I have no idea what 3 boot has done. BTW the avalanche feat was all kinds of crazy.

Originally posted by Stoic
Did 3boot Karate Kid cause an avalanche by casually slapping the base of a mountain while training Ultra Boy? If not I have no idea what 3 boot has done. BTW the avalanche feat was all kinds of crazy.

Midnighter did the same thing against Grifter, IIRC.

This is what I was talking about...

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This is KK's feat...

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KK.
Brains/skill over brawn 9.5/10.

I think the version of Val from that ice scan is the same one that tears apart beings who give Supergirl trouble while he is sick and dodges speed force infused lightning after it hits him. So he should still stomp.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think the version of Val from that ice scan is the same one that tears apart beings who give Supergirl trouble while he is sick and dodges speed force infused lightning after it hits him. So he should still stomp. val is like a lower level dragon ball Z character.

Originally posted by riv6672
KK.
Brains/skill over brawn 9.5/10.

How much smarter is Val and why?

Originally posted by Surtur
I think the version of Val from that ice scan is the same one that tears apart beings who give Supergirl trouble while he is sick and dodges speed force infused lightning after it hits him. So he should still stomp.

Midnighter took down Red Lanterns and almost killed Martian Manhunter.

Originally posted by deathslash
val is like a lower level dragon ball Z character.

Val is what the Z fighters wish they could be when they grow up. At least PC Val.

Not in terms of energy projection, but in terms of pure wtf power from space karate.

Originally posted by Zack M
This is what I was talking about...

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This is KK's feat...

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Nice. And yep that was the scene that I was talking about.

Originally posted by Zack M
How much smarter is Val and why?
I meant brains in the context of fisticuffs, but just for you, i checked...
KK has a Masters in extraterrestrial engineering. Mids didnt graduate high school but did get his GED.

Originally posted by riv6672
I meant brains in the context of fisticuffs, but just for you, i checked...
KK has a Masters in extraterrestrial engineering. Mids didnt graduate high school but did get his GED.

Midnighter has the edge in intelligence, especially with his computer brain. Val is more skilled, but Midnighter has the computer which evens things out. Here is Midnighter OWNING Deadshot. Notice him dodging the bullets.

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Originally posted by Zack M
Midnighter has the edge in intelligence, especially with his computer brain. Val is more skilled, but Midnighter has the computer which evens things out. Here is Midnighter OWNING Deadshot. Notice him dodging the bullets.
If you already "know" the answer you're going to accept, why ask?

And really? Bullets?

Originally posted by riv6672
If you already "know" the answer you're going to accept, why ask?

And really? Bullets?

Which is why I asked YOU for your reasoning. Please provide proof on why or how 3boot would win.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think the version of Val from that ice scan is the same one that tears apart beings who give Supergirl trouble while he is sick and dodges speed force infused lightning after it hits him. So he should still stomp.

No, that was the Pre-CRISIS/"Retroboot" version.

Originally posted by deathslash
val is like a lower level dragon ball Z character.

Bottom end DBZ character.

Originally posted by Zack M
Midnighter took down Red Lanterns and almost killed Martian Manhunter.

Are you talking early STORMWATCH issues, or something else?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Are you talking early STORMWATCH issues, or something else?

Yeah, Stormwatch, I think.

Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, Stormwatch, I think.

Do you mean the example after J'onn beat Apollo in the very early issues when the New 52 started, or is there one I haven't seen?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Do you mean the example after J'onn beat Apollo in the very early issues when the New 52 started, or is there one I haven't seen?

The incident where Midnighter punched him in the head and MM was surprised that he almost hit his weak spot in order to kill him. This was when MM was mind wiping the whole team.

Originally posted by Zack M
The incident where Midnighter punched him in the head and MM was surprised that he almost hit his weak spot in order to kill him. This was when MM was mind wiping the whole team.

So is this a second example?

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Originally posted by carver9
Bottom end DBZ character.

Are u a bottom?

Hold on why is owning Deadshot impressive?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are u a bottom?

I'm on top.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hold on why is owning Deadshot impressive?

Because DS never misses and Midnighter pretty much dodged all his bullets. Can Batman say the same? Does 3boot Val have any speed feats that are like that? Can Batman own Deadshot like that?

Well no but Batman isn't really anywhere near the level of these guys. Karate Kid on a really good day could probably punch Batman out of existence.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well no but Batman isn't really anywhere near the level of these guys. Karate Kid on a really good day could probably punch Batman out of existence.

Batman did stalemate 3boot Val in Brave and the Bold.

I know, which just goes to show how out of control the "Batman is only human" thing has gotten at DC. It's like everyone has an embarrassing Batman story.

Originally posted by Zack M
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So definitely not the example I was thinking of. Thanks.

Originally posted by Zack M
Batman did stalemate 3boot Val in Brave and the Bold.

And while KK had the advantage of actually having experience in fighting with a Legion Flight Ring, to boot.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are u a bottom?

He doesn't understand what that means. All he knows is he likes it.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm on top.

Thats what they all say

Back to topic. Is kk around dcnu

Originally posted by Zack M
Which is why I asked YOU for your reasoning. Please provide proof on why or how 3boot would win.
Given your usual MO is to keep asking loaded questions when someone posits an opinion, i'm usually not in a rush to provide scans in your threads, man. Just being honest.
You make fun match ups, but, like i said, loaded questions.
You posting scans in this thread is an extremely rare case of backing up your opinion instead of just continually asking for proof of things you dont agree with.
Hope you dont take any of the above the wrong way.
If anything, i'll give your threads some space to flourish without my negative vibes from now on.

Originally posted by Delta1938
And while KK had the advantage of actually having experience in fighting with a Legion Flight Ring, to boot.

Karnak symdrome.

Guy could give Daxamites a bloody nose fights Batman: *Blocks punch*.

Bats probably would have done as well against Mon El

Yep the Batman showing makes sense..as long as we ignore pretty much everything else that presents him as way stronger. That doesn't make KK look bad it just makes Batman look bad. I'm serious, it makes the character look bad whenever you have to massively power down someone just so Batman won't get embarrassed.

You might as well show him booting Wonder Woman in the stomach. Oh wait..

3boot is definitely the weakest KK. He has some good showings, but nothing on the level of the past 2.

Still good enough to turn Bane into a fine mist with one punch..