Thor/Martian Manhunter versus question

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riv6672
Given these showings, is a match between classic Thor and Martian Manhunter competitive?

http://i.imgur.com/gdH1LGf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3KzvomB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bwdeynq.jpg

I'm not saying the above are 100% evidence for a Thor win, just that TP and intangibility resistance are on the table in this match up, which is why i looked for scans.
To what degree i have absolutely no idea, though.

No prep, no BFR.

DarkSaint85
Is it possible? Sure.

Personally, not to lowball Emma, but she is no MM.

Has she ever looked into the mind of a god?

According to that scan, no.

MM, however, has plenty of experience. From Black Adam:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/2523514-1.png

To vishnu:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/111336/3843221-6101891298-26500.png

To the Spectre (who, whilst no god, certainly is up there).

In contrast, Thor was told to sleep by Emma's superior (and MM's peer), Prof X. Even Doc Ock mind controlled him, although I am more inclined to call that PIS:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102593/3008481-amazing_687_thegroup_006.jpg

riv6672
^^^Firm but fair. thumb up
I read last night there are instances of Thor nay saying Chuck, but couldnt find anything to back it up.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Firm but fair. thumb up
I read last night there are instances of Thor nay saying Chuck, but couldnt find anything to back it up.

thumb up which is why I am inclined to say it is possible that Thor resists MM.

But basing it off Emma, who, whilst decently strong, usually relies more on skill and technique rather than force, as a basis for MM (who has both brute force AND skill), wouldn't be the way to go, for me.

riv6672
It was the best scan i could find on the fly!
Searching MM and Prof. X just got me a lot of rule 34 stuff that no one needs to see...huh

StiltmanFTW
No-selling P5 Emma's telepathy is an outlier, she should've demolished him.

He shouldn't have been able to crush her P5 diamond form either, but I guess it was just to show she can reform fast if needed.

Non-jobbing Manhunter would be a threat to Thor. Speed kills and Thor lacks it.

riv6672
Random question for you: what are your thoughts on MMs new magical origin?

StiltmanFTW
First time I hear about it haw-som

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Non-jobbing Manhunter would be a threat to Thor.

Yes.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Speed kills and Thor lacks it.
facepalm

StiltmanFTW
Rage has brainwashed you back in the day, but deep in your heart, you know well how slow Thor is.

celeyhyga17
Let go of the hate bro. And talk to da hammer.

http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/76/85/c9b8e910f66d54d785df86d83f020731.gif

StiltmanFTW
My favourite episode was the one in which Hype beat the living shit out of Thor and stole his cape stick out tongue

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Let go of the hate bro. And talk to da hammer.

http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/76/85/c9b8e910f66d54d785df86d83f020731.gif

Nice thumb up

StiltmanFTW
https://49.media.tumblr.com/754aac31b53dfb45604594ef04567e0c/tumblr_nt04uu2VhC1ubjo97o1_500.gif

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
My favourite episode was the one in which Hype beat the living shit out of Thor and stole his cape stick out tongue
Yeah. Aside from a few gems, that show as a whole blows.

EMH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AA

riv6672
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
First time I hear about it haw-som

Really? Here you go.

http://comicsalliance.com/icymi-martian-manhunter-new-origin/

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yeah. Aside from a few gems, that show as a whole blows.

EMH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AA

Agreed.

The worst part is that every cartoon in that new animated universe tries to be a reality show...

Originally posted by riv6672
Really? Here you go.

http://comicsalliance.com/icymi-martian-manhunter-new-origin/

Thanks thumb up

riv6672
Once someone reads it to you, lemme know if you yhink its an upgrade. stick out tongue

StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

Honestly? The whole blood magic thing is really overused.

I like the idea that J'onn is one of a kind, though. So, all in all, it's a step in the right direction. All martians having Superman-esque powers was boring.

Wouldn't that ritual make MM... well, magical, like Cap Marvel or Black Adam? And by that I mean, shouldn't he have a much easier time fighting Superman? Yet he got whooped by Superboy of all people... sigh...

riv6672
That was my initial thought, the CM point you made.
As to Superboy, was that prior to this origin revamp?
Easily forgotten. I mean if characters like BP can retroactively become Marvel Batman, MM can now be a magical piwerhouse.

HulkIsHulk
http://s30.postimg.org/4vnjfx6l9/Facepalm_Meme_08.jpg

The reaction this ppst provokes in me
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


He shouldn't have been able to crush her P5 diamond form either, but I guess it was just to show she can reform

h1a8
Originally posted by riv6672
Given these showings, is a match between classic Thor and Martian Manhunter competitive?

http://i.imgur.com/gdH1LGf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3KzvomB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bwdeynq.jpg

I'm not saying the above are 100% evidence for a Thor win, just that TP and intangibility resistance are on the table in this match up, which is why i looked for scans.
To what degree i have absolutely no idea, though.

No prep, no BFR.

Of course. Thor can't affect the intangibile. The vision showing is often misinterpreted. Vision wasn't completely intangibile there. He was increasing his density more and more. When Thor affected him, Vision wasn't completely solid but rather a less dense phase (like liquid or air).

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by riv6672
That was my initial thought, the CM point you made.
As to Superboy, was that prior to this origin revamp?
Easily forgotten. I mean if characters like BP can retroactively become Marvel Batman, MM can now be a magical piwerhouse.

Yeah, it was way before that.

BP was Black Bat from the very beginning stick out tongue

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
http://s30.postimg.org/4vnjfx6l9/Facepalm_Meme_08.jpg

The reaction this ppst provokes in me

You do know Emma has no-sold adamantium claws in that particular form? smile

Her secondary mutation was never a regular diamond to begin with. Now add in the Phoenix Force to the mix and it's a miracle Mjolnir didn't crack, like against Bor.

DarkSaint85
This Wolvie lowballer here....

abhilegend
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

Honestly? The whole blood magic thing is really overused.

I like the idea that J'onn is one of a kind, though. So, all in all, it's a step in the right direction. All martians having Superman-esque powers was boring.

Wouldn't that ritual make MM... well, magical, like Cap Marvel or Black Adam? And by that I mean, shouldn't he have a much easier time fighting Superman? Yet he got whooped by Superboy of all people... sigh...
This is like the third origin he had in DCnU. Best one so far. The new series is damn good.

Johns would retcon it out the first chance he gets though.

sad

Horrificus
The big problem here is that MM is a big, green homo.
Soooo... THAT is really going to work against him.
And I've looked at this from every angle.

StiltmanFTW
The third origin in the new universe? Seriously? laughing out loud

leonidas
is that just his NEW rebirth origin....? he had a different one when the second big rebirth happened (where he was part of stormwatch) didn't he? confused

anyway, sounds cool. may have to check the new series out.

abhilegend
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The third origin in the new universe? Seriously? laughing out loud
Yeah, standard "last green martian" from stormwatch, then Matt Kindt gave him an origin in Justice League of America and this.

Its a cluster****.Originally posted by leonidas
is that just his NEW rebirth origin....? he had a different one when the second big rebirth happened (where he was part of stormwatch) didn't he? confused

anyway, sounds cool. may have to check the new series out.
Rebirth hasn't happened yet you silly sally.

stick out tongue

One Big Mob
Lol MM is a mess. It's bad enough his showings are shit but now they need to differentiate a guy with shit showings from the average Martian. That'd be like retconning Rhino's origin to say he's more powerful than a Rhino because he injected Power Gem fragments up his anus.

In any case he can win if he doesn't get hit.

leonidas
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, standard "last green martian" from stormwatch, then Matt Kindt gave him an origin in Justice League of America and this.

Its a cluster****.
Rebirth hasn't happened yet you silly sally.

stick out tongue

oi.... i thought the new stuff had already started coming out... embarrasment

riv6672
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, it was way before that.

BP was Black Bat from the very beginning stick out tongue
Haha, no he wasnt. laughing

But i digress.

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