DCAU Hawkgirl vs. Terry McGinnis (Batman Beyond)

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carthage
Round 1: H2H only

Round 2: Hawk gets her mace, Terry gets his standard gear

Fight takes place on neutral ground

NotAllThatEvil
Does terry get the suit in round 1?

Sin I AM
If he can disarm her maybe. But she packs a nice punch. Undecided

cdtm
Terry wins both, with ease.

Surtur
Originally posted by cdtm
Terry wins both, with ease.

First fight seems like he doesn't have his suit, in which HG will beat the shit out of him.

Also with the 2nd fight I don't know if he'd win that easily. I think he'd win, but HG has some pretty decent feats. She has caused massive damage to things at times with just a single mace strike.

KingD19
It's the mace though, not her. When others used her mace, their were similar results.

NotAllThatEvil
Terry is a street brawler and hawkgirl is a trained soldier. Without his suit he gets beat.

Surtur
Originally posted by KingD19
It's the mace though, not her. When others used her mace, their were similar results.

But if she has the mace in the 2nd fight what does it matter where that damage comes from? Without the mace she still beat the shit out of a bunch of GL's. They weren't using their powers obviously, but it was a nice showing.

I'm not even sure how many times we've even seen someone else use the mace.

I mean yep it's the mace, just like the only reason Terry stands a chance is due to the suit.

KingD19
I was just pointing out that her massive striking power is the mace. She's not gonna be beating him without it and she's been disarmed before. Terry in the suit with all his tech can definitely get it away from her.

He can also take a few whack based on what he's endured. Like the construction golem.

cdtm
Originally posted by KingD19
I was just pointing out that her massive striking power is the mace. She's not gonna be beating him without it and she's been disarmed before. Terry in the suit with all his tech can definitely get it away from her.

He can also take a few whack based on what he's endured. Like the construction golem.

*Thumbs up*

Terry's fought some insanely overpowered opponents.

In fact, even old Batman villains like Mr. Freeze are upgraded waaaaay past The Animated Series. And he still got Worfed by the heat guy, who Terry handled.

Surtur
She does have some decent power though. She threw the mace so hard it got stuck in a wall. Go watch the scene where she fights all the GL's in hand to hand.

I'm not saying she can beat Terry in the suit, just that I don't think he'd own her immediately.

HulkIsHulk
Good fight. Going with split

KingD19
Originally posted by Surtur
She does have some decent power though. She threw the mace so hard it got stuck in a wall. Go watch the scene where she fights all the GL's in hand to hand.

I'm not saying she can beat Terry in the suit, just that I don't think he'd own her immediately.


Terry out of the suit probably would have taken them down as well. He's got a few decent civilian feats. None of those GL's are known for being physical powerhouses. It's not like she beat up on Kilowog or something.

I never said he'd own her immediately, but he holds almost all the advantages. Even her flight isn't an advantage because he can fly too, and faster than her with his jets. He can turn invisible, he's got multiple types of batarangs(normal, explosive, electric, gas, etc...), gas pellets. He's stronger than her in the suit iirc as he's done some ridiculous stuff and taken ridiculous amounts of damage. He's also pretty damn skilled.

shiv
1. Terry's In Trouble.

2. Terry's Dead.

John Murdoch
Not for sure on round 1, but I'd have to go Terry for round 2. All the versatility he has with the suit, plus he's fought everyone from Blight to Superman.

NotAllThatEvil
Originally posted by shiv
1. Terry's In Trouble.

2. Terry's Dead.

other way around dude. thanagarians have humans beat, but the batsuit is way more deadly than a chunk of nth metal on a stick.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
In fact, even old Batman villains like Mr. Freeze are upgraded waaaaay past The Animated Series. And he still got Worfed by the heat guy, who Terry handled.

You're trying hard for the "Being Wrong in Every Thread" 2016 KMC award.

Freeze got cheapshotted by Blight. And cheapshotted Blight later in return, bfr'ing him. No real fight between them happened.

Anyway, yeah, I'm going with Terry here.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're trying hard for the "Being Wrong in Every Thread" 2016 KMC award.

Freeze got cheapshotted by Blight. And cheapshotted Blight later in return, bfr'ing him. No real fight between them happened.

Anyway, yeah, I'm going with Terry here.

I haven't been wrong once. And who said they fought? wink

Freeze iced up Blight first, before his powers kicked in. He melted out of it fairly quickly. An exchange later, and Freeze is dying/dead, while Blight is mildly inconvenienced.


And this Freeza was on an entirely different level then Animated Series version. Bullet proof armor, ice beams on steroids. The whole point of building up Freeze like they did is to make Blight seem like an even bigger monster, which is what happened.

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