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One ideology preaches freedom for all, equal rights for women and minorities, rights for gays, lesbians and transgender.

The other kills them, practices jihad in the name of their God, treats women horribly, kills homosexuals.

How can liberals stand up for Islam when it stands against everything they are supposedly against?

Well, liberalism is a term that has changed throughout history, what you're describing sounds more like cultural Marxism, which is not a political theory, but a term used to describe the promotion of anything anti-establishment. Specifically, equal rights for women, minorities and LGBTQS (wow, seriously, that shows up as a suggestion but not an auto correct? Shit, my iPad can't even get lol right sometimes)

So how does cultural Marxism or degeneracy interconnect with Islam?

It doesn't.

They do have similar goals however.

One expresses peace once the entire world is tolerant and non violent, the other expresses peace once the entire world is Muslim. Very different ideas, but the same goal.

This is all I can really think of.

This paradox escapes the attention of many liberals, or.... they willingly choose to ignore it. /shrug.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
Well, liberalism is a term that has changed throughout history, what you're describing sounds more like cultural Marxism, which is not a political theory, but a term used to describe the promotion of anything anti-establishment. Specifically, equal rights for women, minorities and LGBTQS (wow, seriously, that shows up as a suggestion but not an auto correct? Shit, my iPad can't even get lol right sometimes)

So how does cultural Marxism or degeneracy interconnect with Islam?

It doesn't.

They do have similar goals however.

One expresses peace once the entire world is tolerant and non violent, the other expresses peace once the entire world is Muslim. Very different ideas, but the same goal.

This is all I can really think of.
TBH most religions/ideologies preach some form of peace as the ultimate goal.

EDIT: Also, it's interesting that Cultural Marxism became the establishment. But that's for another thread altogether.

Why would it be interesting?

Replacing the establishment is what Marxism is all about.

I will fight for your right to believe in any god you want. I will also believe you are totally wrong that any God exists. - Ricky Gervais

Originally posted by Stigma
This paradox escapes the attention of many liberals, or.... they willingly choose to ignore it. /shrug.


TBH most religions/ideologies preach some form of peace as the ultimate goal.

EDIT: Also, it's interesting that Cultural Marxism became the establishment. But that's for another thread altogether. and yet, being "edgy" or different is actually so dull and boring that people stopped caring.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/14/the-liberal-love-affair-with-islam/

Good Thread

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How can liberals stand up for Islam when it stands against everything they are supposedly against?

How can conservatives support Christian Dominionism when it is antithetical to the very Constitution they deify?

So you as a question with a question.

Pathetic and just proves you can't answer the question and you only follow me around to snipe me instead of engaging in the discussion like everyone else.

You are a pathetic troll.

I've heard that US Liberalism and Islam have nothing in common. But US Conservatism and Islam are basically two peas in a pod.

Now you are just trolling. Reported.

Not a single conservative supports anything about Islam.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So you as a question with a question.

Pathetic and just proves you can't answer the question and you only follow me around to snipe me instead of engaging in the discussion like everyone else.

You are a pathetic troll.

No, I asked a rhetorical question to illustrate a point. Your original question is not a sincere inquiry. It is a rhetorical framework for you and others to criticize liberals. This entire thread is designed to troll, and that makes you pathetic.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Now you are just trolling. Reported.

Not a single conservative supports anything about Islam.
I do. We both hate gays, we both agree women should be kept in check, I'm sure there's loads more us conservatives and the Muslims agree upon.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Now you are just trolling. Reported.

Not a single conservative supports anything about Islam.

Calling me a troll in a troll thread... you don't see a problem with that?

Well, some would disagree.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, I asked a rhetorical question to illustrate a point. Your original question is not a sincere inquiry. It is a rhetorical framework for you and others to criticize liberals. This entire thread is designed to troll, and that makes you pathetic.

Since conservatives do not support Islam at all, and Liberals do, I wanted to know why.

Dumbass

Originally posted by Robtard
Calling me a troll in a troll thread... you don't see a problem with that?

Well, some would disagree.

How is this a troll thread. The principles of Islam do not coincide with Islam, yet 99% of Liberals support them and their way of life. If it bothers you that much don't post here. Its a legitimate question and thread concerning the two.

You're trying to attack liberals, this is the purpose of the thread, so don't get upset when you get flak back. That's how the game is played.

To answer your question though. Allowing people to worship their religion of choice has nothing to do with accepting Islam or certain Islamic views. That goes with every other religion. You take the good with the bad, that's what comes in a "free" country.

To give a an example as it relates in the US, when certain Christians/Christian groups try and oppress people based on religion (say, equal rights for homosexuals), you attack that specific stance, not every tenet of Christianity and Christianity as a whole. See?

No I am trying to understand what they have in common, that is not an attack. Christians are not throwing homo sexual off roofs in America. You live in the biggest gay demographic in the country, how many homosexuals are killed by Christians there?

If you want make your own thread on what Christianity has to do with conservatives. Otherwise please stay on topic.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No I am trying to understand what they have in common, that is not an attack. Christians are not throwing homo sexual off roofs in America. You live in the biggest gay demographic in the country, how many homosexuals s are killed by Christians there? Can you stop changing the subject.

If you want make your own thread on what Christianity has to do with conservatives. Otherwise please stay on topic. as I've said, liberalism is a term that's changed throughout history and it has nothing to do with Islam at all.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
as I've said, liberalism is a term that's changed throughout history and it has nothing to do with Islam at all.

Instead of using the word liberal, what is more accurate for the times?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Instead of using the word liberal, what is more accurate for the times? cultural Marxism. The idea that all cultures must be subverted and a one race, one culture society should be put together through peaceful means throughout the world without the knowledge that most cultures are uncivilised and are getting privileges in white societies despite the obvious decline of white males.

Historically, white nations were very prosperous in the 1900s before more of this cultural Marxism came to be. The United States, British empire and German empire were very well off in 1910, but the two world wars and subsequent feminist, communist and human rights movements have not made society better, they've actually made it worse, with a few exceptions.

London was the epicentre of freedom in 1900, now it's full of poor immigrants wanting to return to a society they had nothing to do with.

Germany used to be The Holy Roman Empire.... Now it's free education for refugees.

USA used to be free from imperialism, now it's become the emperor.

So all the left wing liberals here are really Marxists? Cause this is the ideology they preach.

Originally posted by It's xyz!

London was the epicentre of freedom in 1900, now it's full of poor immigrants wanting to return to a society they had nothing to do with.

Germany used to be The Holy Roman Empire.... Now it's free education for refugees.

USA used to be free from imperialism, now it's become the emperor.

So history is repeating itself, and why can't people see this? And why do these marxists here want this?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So all the left wing liberals here are really Marxists? Cause this is the ideology they preach. i just don't want to use the term liberal. Sounds like something Mussolini would say.

And hush is right, cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory. Maybe, disestablishmentism? Liberate-all? I just don't know.

How is it a conspiracy when its really happening?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How is it a conspiracy when its really happening? because, erm, well....

Look it up. haermm

I did

I try not to think about it. Liberals are stupid pussified males and social justice warriors. Anyone who disagrees with them is racist or hitter.

There was a time when liberals formed decent discussions, but now it's just "your racist le meme"

Hate em.

Modern "progressive" Liberals are so entrenched with the oppression scale that they are willing to forgive horrible transgressions in order to be on the "right side of history."

Both are ideologies that have conquest and the suppression of ANY dissenting opinions as an end goal.
Both adhere to the "by any means necessary" process of spreading.
Both are prone to violence.
Both racist.

They have many things in common, but progressives dont support islam because they're so similar, they defend islam because Muslims are usually non white and therefore are part of the "victim class" and, in the mind of progressives, are inferior, weak aand in need of protection. Protection from who? The evil white straight male, of course.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Modern "progressive" Liberals are so entrenched with the oppression scale that they are willing to forgive horrible transgressions in order to be on the "right side of history."
Truth.
Its an obsession of who they believe is the most inferior.

xfO1veFs6Ho liberals starting to think.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
xfO1veFs6Ho liberals starting to think.
That's impossible.

You can see the wires in their brains connecting. Shame it doesn't happen too often.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
You can see the wires in their brains connecting. Shame it doesn't happen too often.
They are mentally ill. The ideology they worship at the altar of are masters of using the mentally ill as pawns.

They would literally kill someone if they were directed to by their regressive cult of personality.

I think they're too weak to do so.

I think they're just spoils children

TI, did you miss me?