Mxy vs Adam Warlock

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carver9
DCU Mxy vs Current Warlock.

Who wins?

ShadowFyre
Mxy and easily. Here is why. Adam Warlock has no idea wtf he is doing. He doesent even know what powers he does have, or why he is that powerful. Not positive but pretty sure this Adam doesent even know what Universe he is from according to Infinity Revelations I believe.

If this was a blastfest Adam could at least put up a fight but MXY has waaaaaay to much experience with that kind of power than current Adam does.

DarkSaint85
Counterpoint: Mxy is also an idiot.

ShadowFyre
True. It seems like almost every abstract level being is either petty as all getout or an idiot. I mean Galactus is about as petty as they get. I always took MXY for what the name imp implies to me. Childish, carefree, more busy trying to entertain himself than actually fighting.

Galan007
Mxy.

Also, Mxy is not an idiot. Not really. He feigns ignorance as part of his game.

SquallX
Mxy shoves Adam in his hat.

Genii96
Adam warlock has the powers of the combined might of an entire marvel hierachy as well as the powers of everything else in his universe right?

carver9
Yes

Genii96
Then he wins this

Insane Titan
Mxy got out smarted by a Joker ffs

SquallX
Originally posted by Genii96
Adam warlock has the powers of the combined might of an entire marvel hierachy as well as the powers of everything else in his universe right?

While one of the weakest versions of Mxy pulled out a Universe out of his hat as just a mere trick.

Adam hasn't done anything yet that could threaten Mxy.

carver9
Originally posted by SquallX
While one of the weakest versions of Mxy pulled out a Universe out of his hat as just a mere trick.

Adam hasn't done anything yet that could threaten Mxy.

Lol...that's nothing. He has the combine might of every Abstract in his universe, including the Cosmic cube, Infinite gems, etc... everything I just named is universal in power and thats just one Abstract/item. He just punked a bunch of Abstracts with ease...all of them possessing universal power. With that said, your ft is lame.

Genii96
Originally posted by SquallX
While one of the weakest versions of Mxy pulled out a Universe out of his hat as just a mere trick.

Adam hasn't done anything yet that could threaten Mxy.
Kubik warped a universe round his palm,and he is just a cubed being,
death atomized the galactus engine and the (more powerful) beings along with it with just the power of her attack that 'leaked through' the cancerverse, the engine was overwhelming galactus,arishem,primordial gods and a shit load of celestials, one celestial is above a cubed being like kubik,4 celestials created a multiverse,with punches,they were created from eternity while he was meditating,the MAOs following the galactus engine were stronger than it,death atomized them all with a 'leaked blast' from who she actually attacked,that's so far above universal its not even funny
That's just death,who at most is equal to eternity,infinity and oblivion.
Then you have the CCU,infinity gems,and every other artifact
Then you have someone like scathan,who is superior to the living tribunal.
Yea,universal in power means absolutely nothing

Genii96
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...that's nothing. He has the combine might of every Abstract in his universe, including the Cosmic cube, Infinite gems, etc... everything I just named is universal in power and thats just one Abstract/item. He just punked a bunch of Abstracts with ease...all of them possessing universal power. With that said, your ft is lame.
Actually eternity,death,infinity are well above universal(in terms of power) and the celestial I saw there,was that scathan?

abhilegend
So he has the power of some featless characters and a universe? So? Originally posted by Genii96
Kubik warped a universe round his palm,and he is just a cubed being,
death atomized the galactus engine and the (more powerful) beings along with it with just the power of her attack that 'leaked through' the cancerverse, the engine was overwhelming galactus,arishem,primordial gods and a shit load of celestials, one celestial is above a cubed being like kubik,4 celestials created a multiverse,with punches,they were created from eternity while he was meditating,the MAOs following the galactus engine were stronger than it,death atomized them all with a 'leaked blast' from who she actually attacked,that's so far above universal its not even funny
That's just death,who at most is equal to eternity,infinity and oblivion.
Then you have the CCU,infinity gems,and every other artifact
Then you have someone like scathan,who is superior to the living tribunal.
Yea,universal in power means absolutely nothing
baka

Feats don't transfer to alternate characters. You're acting like everyone in MU hierarchy is ****ing multiversal or some shit.

Why didn't they stop the destruction of a single universe if they are so powerful as you're claiming?

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
So he has the power of some featless characters and a universe? So?
baka

Feats don't transfer to alternate characters. You're acting like everyone in MU hierarchy is ****ing multiversal or some shit.

Why didn't they stop the destruction of a single universe if they are so powerful as you're claiming?

True, fts dont transfer but in this case, it does based off what Warlock said and proven when he fought the abstracts.

LOL... are you really going there with the Universe being destroyed? Why didn't an Abstract intervene when Monarch destroyed the universe?

zopzop
Originally posted by SquallX
Mxy shoves Adam in his hat.

SquallX
Originally posted by Genii96
Kubik warped a universe round his palm,and he is just a cubed being,
death atomized the galactus engine and the (more powerful) beings along with it with just the power of her attack that 'leaked through' the cancerverse, the engine was overwhelming galactus,arishem,primordial gods and a shit load of celestials, one celestial is above a cubed being like kubik,4 celestials created a multiverse,with punches,they were created from eternity while he was meditating,the MAOs following the galactus engine were stronger than it,death atomized them all with a 'leaked blast' from who she actually attacked,that's so far above universal its not even funny
That's just death,who at most is equal to eternity,infinity and oblivion.
Then you have the CCU,infinity gems,and every other artifact
Then you have someone like scathan,who is superior to the living tribunal.
Yea,universal in power means absolutely nothing

Like I said, that's one of the weakest incarnations of Mxy, and that feat was a casual trick he used to impress the Imp Kjng and Princess.

Where as Joker with 99% of Mxy was going to end all of the DCU, and Joker didn't even know how to truly use Mxy's powers.

Mxy at his most powerful destroyed the Multiverse and remakes it at least every weekend just for the hell of it.

As right now, Adam stands no chance against the weakest of Mxy unless Mxy allows him.

Surtur
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Mxy got out smarted by a Joker ffs

Yes, but this becomes less damaging once you realize DC has a massive hard on for the joker.

DarkOdin
Originally posted by abhilegend
So he has the power of some featless characters and a universe? So?
baka

Feats don't transfer to alternate characters. You're acting like everyone in MU hierarchy is ****ing multiversal or some shit.

Why didn't they stop the destruction of a single universe if they are so powerful as you're claiming? with said fearless power he did own all of the abstract of 616 with ease

Galan007
Even if we assume feats/powers from alternate universes DO align with their 616 counterparts, Adam still isn't even remotely close to Mxy's level.

IF he ends up effortlessly destroying the Marvel continuum in its totality(past/present/future), and recreating it all with a gesture, I will agree with him being in Mxy's tier. Until then, beating the abstracts/cosmics of a single universe isn't even in the same ballpark as Mxy.

carver9
What's Mxy best combat showing? Who's the most powerful being he has defeated in combat?

Galan007
^ Corrigan-Spectre.

Anyway, a better fight at this point in time would be Bat-Mite vs. Warlock.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Corrigan-Spectre.

Anyway, a better fight at this point in time would be Bat-Mite vs. Warlock.

Was it an easy win for him?

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Was it an easy win for him? Effortless.

SquallX
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Corrigan-Spectre.

Anyway, a better fight at this point in time would be Bat-Mite vs. Warlock.

I still think Bat-Mite is above Adam. I haven't read anything new of Bat-Mite in the New 52, but in WF, Mxy and Mite were seen as equal to a degree.

He may not be truly equal Mxy, but Mite should be far ahead of Adam.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
Effortless.

Carver will now take his leave from the thread.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Surtur
Yes, but this becomes less damaging once you realize DC has a massive hard on for the joker. he still not as cunning or smart as Adam.

Decter
Be feats mxy should stomp

By potential I can see Adam keeping up

However as for now I'll have to side with mxy

Mr Master
Adam is being portrayed by Starlin right now as an all-powerful god-like being.
Originally posted by

What's Mxy best combat showing?

Who's the most powerful being he has defeated in combat?
Originally posted by

Corrigan-Spectre.
Is that the Spectre that loss with a planet bopped over his head?

On a side note:

The Mxy from Emperor Joker's saga took 5 hours to fix a single universe.

Astner
Did Adam get the Heart of the Universe of what happened?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Is that the Spectre that loss with a planet bopped over his head?
Yes.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
Is that the Spectre that loss with a planet bopped over his head? Mxy beat Corrigan-Spectre numerous times during that story. EJ also warped the Spectre-Force itself to his whims. smile

Originally posted by Mr Master
On a side note:

The Mxy from Emperor Joker's saga took 5 hours to fix a single universe. I have explained this to you before: we have seen Mxy restore the whole of DC comics with a snap of his fingers, so the fact that it took him 5 hours to repair the damage Emperor Joker caused to reality just goes to show you how extensive/all-encompassing that damage was...

As was noted in the arc itself: Joker's inept manipulations of reality ripped the fundamental fabric of existence so extensively that the damage to creation was nearly irreversible. Of course, Mxy was still able to repair said damage(he's as adept as it gets)--it just took him longer than normal, is all. smile


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Originally posted by Astner
Did Adam get the Heart of the Universe of what happened? He absorbed the power of a single reality, along with the power of everyone/thing within that reality.

Mr Master
... a friendly discussion, wonderful. smile
Originally posted by Galan007

Mxy beat Corrigan-Spectre numerous times during that story.
All Spectres in WF were clowns you gotta admit though.

One of them was even struggling pulling a tanker in the water.
Originally posted by Galan007

EJ also warped the Spectre-Force itself to his whims.
I don't know what that entails old friend.

I mean Spectre, sent by his "boss," got stomped with a planet to the dome piece. (isn't that "backed" Spectre btw?)
Originally posted by Galan007

I have explained this to you before: we have seen Mxy restore the whole of DC comics with a snap of his fingers, so the fact that it took him 5 hours to repair the damage Emperor Joker caused to reality just goes to show you how extensive/all-encompassing that damage was...
That's a cool analyzation of "why" it took Mxy 5 hours, perhaps yur right ...
but its iyo why writers didn't use WF Mxy levels in EJ's arc no? Just being thorough.

Isn't there another speculative perspective that says:
Mxy doesn't have "uncreation/recreation multiversal+ finger snapping" power in all stories?
Like all those other stories? ... Well .. that other (WF) story at-least.
Originally posted by Galan007

As was noted in the arc itself: Joker's inept manipulations of reality ripped the fundamental fabric of existence so extensively that the damage to creation was nearly irreversible. Of course, Mxy was still able to repair said damage(he's as adept as it gets)--it just took him longer than normal, is all.
I understand.

Imo, had the Joker writers taken into consideration WF Mxy feats,
Mxy would not have been laboring to fix that Dimension in the Emperor Joker's story..

'erase multiversal+ space-time, then recreate said multiversal+ space-time, with a snap'
That's cartoonish 'wishes become reality' type power in WF . EJ arc was bit more serious.

@Galan ... this isn't really a "debate" good friend,
I'm just focusing on would-be nicks and crannies to patch up any possible holes in Mxy's story.
I'm feeding off of your knowledge so I do always appreciate the friendly responses. thumb up

Mr Master
Originally posted by Astner

Did Adam get the Heart of the Universe of what happened?

I'm not sure the heart was in that Adam's universe, or, at-least that hasn't been mentioned,
if there was an alternate heart, (which would be weird)
we don't know if Adam absorbed his universe after his Thanos had erased the heart like in 616.
Assuming events played out exactly the same as in 616 at that point, until when ever they changed.

Exactly where that Adam stands right now is something of a mystery.

But there is no doubt he is far beyond "universal."
He's already travelled outside his universe, across universeS in fact,
and he is god-like Adam where ever he goes.
Adam handled Eternity and Infinity like puppets, and they themselves are at-least "universal" entities.

Adam entered 616, and he immediately became cosmically aware of all things in 616.

He has uber beastly power, and this is just the beginning, as he is learning.
If you read the arc, Adam just wishes for things to be, and they are. thumb up
He seems to be completely immortal too.
He was vaporized when he manifested in-front of the original Big Bang taking place,
He never lost consciousness, and immediately reformed his body effortlessly.

Adam has a replicated 616 inside him. Every entity and item/weapon.
As we know, not everyone within a universe, has to be less than universal,
there are more than some characters that are universal threats and even universal powers within 616,
heck, even multiversal threats. (not many, but they out there)

Adam has all that power stacked! ...

Galan007
Firstly, all versions/iterations of Mxy are one in the same(I know you've come to realize this by now, but others may not):
http://i.imgur.com/BRoQYq7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4o6QozA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/S2HrnpX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5tT8KZM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GlnoPRn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2c1TgnL.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
... a friendly discussion, wonderful. smile

All Spectres in WF were clowns you gotta admit though.

One of them was even struggling pulling a tanker in the water. It was still Spectre nonetheless, and Mxy killed him multiple times, across every single universe/reality/timeline/dimension in DC... Even Bat-Mite(a tiny fraction of Mxy's power) killed Spectre, and could obliterate universes easily:
http://i.imgur.com/UElei9x.jpg


Proof that Bat-Mite = a tiny portion of Mxy's power:
http://i.imgur.com/AESIqbn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/r0iWwye.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know what that entails old friend.

I mean Spectre, sent by his "boss," got stomped with a planet to the dome piece. (isn't that "backed" Spectre btw?) I'm just saying that Mxy warped the Spectre-Force itself. ie. he overtook the Spectre entity(God's wrath/vengeance personified), before transforming it into a parakeet and stuffing it inside a birdcage:
http://i.imgur.com/yim87uA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MaULuSG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OFY7390.jpg

And again: that's what a n00b can do with Mxy's powers. Lol.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's a cool analyzation of "why" it took Mxy 5 hours, perhaps yur right ... This isn't just my opinion. Spectre literally stated that the damage Joker caused to reality via his inept manipulations was nearly irreversible:
http://i.imgur.com/yim87uA.jpg
Ergo it taking an adept(ie. Mxy) 5 hours to repair said damage.

Sidenote: the above scene is when we found out that Joker's tangent was multiversal. Couple that with this scene from very early in the arc:
http://i.imgur.com/p1nLPb3.jpg
...And We know that it was multi-dimensional as well. smile

Originally posted by Mr Master
but its iyo why writers didn't use WF Mxy levels in EJ's arc no? Just being thorough. Mxy was rarely used in pre-Flashpoint continuity, and most of those times he was used in a very minor fashion. So I'd guess feats from WF weren't mentioned because they were never really relevant to the story at hand... Not to mention that it seemed like Mxy erased all traces of that little fiasco. You have to remember, for the most part Mxy wasn't some evil/malevolent entity--he just liked to occasionally play benign little games with Superman here and there.

When he let loose, however, we saw what he could do. Hell, when Mxy took on his 'evil twins' persona, he demonstrated the ability to formally retcon characters, ffs:
http://i.imgur.com/f29ccTG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JsAgAIX.jpg
...Which is just crazy. Literally no other character can do this kind of shit, lol.

We also know he can hop into ANY universe/dimension/timeline that has ever existed in DC's history(even spin-off/alternate realities):
http://i.imgur.com/S7760oA.jpg

But again, that kind of high-end stuff usually isn't what Mxy likes to do(it's just not fun for him lol.) However, multiple references to Mxy's omnipotence and whatnot have been made over the years. Here's one such reference:
http://i.imgur.com/ZwONI06.jpg
"He's a being of infinite power..."

Originally posted by Mr Master
Isn't there another speculative perspective that says:
Mxy doesn't have "uncreation/recreation multiversal+ finger snapping" power in all stories?
Like all those other stories? ... Well .. that other (WF) story at-least. Mxy told us in the EJ arc itself that he doesn't typically go about destroying/warping reality because it's not fun for him:
http://i.imgur.com/9xsMoUN.jpg
Mxy: "I actually grasp the concept that if you obliterate reality, then there's nobody left to play with!"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Imo, had the Joker writers taken into consideration WF Mxy feats,
Mxy would not have been laboring to fix that Dimension in the Emperor Joker's story..

'erase multiversal+ space-time, then recreate said multiversal+ space-time, with a snap'
That's cartoonish 'wishes become reality' type power in WF . EJ arc was bit more serious. As mentioned above: Joker's damage was harder to fix than 'normal' because his inept manipulations of reality were nigh-irreversible:
http://i.imgur.com/yim87uA.jpg

So the fact that Mxy could repair reality at all is a feat in itself.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm feeding off of your knowledge so I do always appreciate the friendly responses. Feed away. stick out tongue

TheVoidofDeath
Tis should be locked... Mxy

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Mr Master
That's a cool analyzation of "why" it took Mxy 5 hours, perhaps yur right ...
but its iyo why writers didn't use WF Mxy levels in EJ's arc no? Just being thorough.


Presumably, the same reason why Flash gets tagged, or WW gets hit by Deathstroke, or Mxy gets beaten up by SBP - PIS.

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