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Brawl for it all. Who wins?

gladiator wrecks him.

Originally posted by ghostman
gladiator wrecks him. hysterical
Thragg destroys him.

The way Kirkman writes those superhuman battles... I'd say Glads is in trouble...

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Brawl for it all. Who wins?

Kal beaks the brakes off of J. Jonah Jameson.

Thragg, no contest.

Originally posted by Galan007
Thragg, no contest.

Why is it a no contest? I seem to remember Invincible being able to make Thragg bleed.

Even though Mark 'making him bleed' certainly isn't a low showing, you probably don't want to try and lowball Thragg when a character like Gladiator is in the other corner.

Anyway, Thragg >> Invincible ~/< Omni-Man = mean Supreme. That's why he wins, no contest.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Kal beaks the brakes off of J. Jonah Jameson.
Yup. Gladiator every single time.

Could go either way.

Thragg solidly.

Thragg, with ease.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though Mark 'making him bleed' certainly isn't a low showing, you probably don't want to try and lowball Thragg when a character like Gladiator is in the other corner.

Anyway, Thragg >> Invincible ~/< Omni-Man = mean Supreme. That's why he wins, no contest.

And Supreme = Kallark

Exactly.

Thragg >>> Omni-Man=Supreme=Kallark

Thragg wins. Gladiator will enjoy the new experience of burst organs, missing limbs and all the other neat things Thragg brings to the table.

Thragg takes this handily.

Marvel loses. Their fault for publishing sh_t comics I guess.

Thragg stomps.

Originally posted by Bentley
Marvel loses. Their fault for publishing sh_t comics I guess.



Who do you guys think a good fight for Thragg would be?

V&V Desp
Kurse

Somewhere there

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn


Who do you guys think a good fight for Thragg would be? most characters in the trans tier as long as they don't have telepathic powers.Originally posted by cdtm
Exactly.

Thragg >>> Omni-Man=Supreme=Kallark I think that everyone is doing their math wrong.
Thragg>>> omni-man+invincible+young omni-man+thadeus>>>>> supreme
Seriously, based off of his fight in the viltrumite war, thragg is easily a mid trans.

Lets see some scans.

^ Thragg ragdolls Invincible + Omni-Man + Thadeus + BattleBeast (1/2):
http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410396_Invincible_075-010.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410405_Invincible_075-014.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410414_Invincible_075-015.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410421_Invincible_075-016.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410428_Invincible_075-025.jpg

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410431_Invincible_075-026.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410438_Invincible_075-027.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410443_Invincible_075-028.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410449_Invincible_075-029.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26410453_Invincible_075-030.jpg

Thragg ragdolls Invincible + Omni-Man + Thadeus + BattleBeast (2/2):
http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409942_Invincible_076-002.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409947_Invincible_076-003.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409952_Invincible_076-004.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409957_Invincible_076-005.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409962_Invincible_076-008.jpg

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409964_Invincible_076-009.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409968_Invincible_076-010.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409973_Invincible_076-011.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409978_Invincible_076-012.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/26409980_Invincible_076-014.jpg

Thragg just straight up pulled Thaddeus' head off. Not even ripped, he did it so casually it was like pulling the head off a Barbie doll.

Thragg destroyed them, and he's probably stronger than Gladiator, but am I the only one who feels like this is something Superman or Majestic could do as well?

It just seems like Omni-Man or Invincible just need to get stronger and they'll take him down.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Thragg destroyed them, and he's probably stronger than Gladiator, but am I the only one who feels like this is something Superman or Majestic could do as well?

It just seems like Omni-Man or Invincible just need to get stronger and they'll take him down.

Maybe. A lot of people seem to think that Thragg is trans, I don't particularly agree with that. He's at the top of the heap for heralds. I just don't think Viltrumites have enough durability, or versatility to break into the trans tier, they more than make up for it with their insane damage soak, and strength against pretty much any Herald though.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even though Mark 'making him bleed' certainly isn't a low showing, you probably don't want to try and lowball Thragg when a character like Gladiator is in the other corner.

Anyway, Thragg >> Invincible ~/< Omni-Man = mean Supreme. That's why he wins, no contest.

I'm not trying to lowball anyone. I'm simply saying if Invincible can inflict a nosebleed couldn't Gladiator inflict a lot worse?

Originally posted by krisblaze
It just seems like Omni-Man or Invincible just need to get stronger and they'll take him down. They'd have to get a lot stronger, given how casually Thragg ragdolled both of them at the same time.

But where Nolan's strength is concerned: he is already strong enough to stalemate the most powerful version of Supreme by himself:
http://i.imgur.com/pqSgL4R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bKjgQm3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0T5fhKC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5V813Im.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jvyzlt8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zqWG4dv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8vEzoi7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/03YzXDP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zqHsQfn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1zbRIY3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GcxkwNc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qJpn2SB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7CLROWG.jpg
Heck, since Nolan regained consciousness first, I suppose you could argue that he technically won... But that's neither here nor there.



...And before anyone asks, Kirkman himself(the writer/creator of Invincible) regards the above battle as canon:
http://s4.postimg.org/klduw0w25/Untitled.png

^Is Supreme no longer part of the Image universe? If so, I don't see why it would be considered non-canon. Kirkman reaffirming it is nice at any rate.

No, it was still published under the Image brand. I've just seen people question it in the past because it occurred outside of the Invincible title, and Larsen's Supreme seemed to take place within its own little continuity.

Anyway, not only does Kirkman himself recognize the Nolan/Supreme battle as canon, but it also occurred in Supreme's own series--a series where Larsen wanked 'mean' Supreme like f*cking crazy... Damned uber showing for Nolan.

Nice scans. Thragg is a monster. And questions about his durability though understandable can be explained easily. These Viltrumites(and BBeast) are upper tiered beings easily in the class 100 range. Receiving damage from them is not really a low showing. That damage soak though is ridic. Plus Gladz though an upper tiered strong man himself, has been injured by like level individuals.

Did battle beast job? Especially given his last battle against thragg

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Maybe. A lot of people seem to think that Thragg is trans, I don't particularly agree with that. He's at the top of the heap for heralds. I just don't think Viltrumites have enough durability, or versatility to break into the trans tier, they more than make up for it with their insane damage soak, and strength against pretty much any Herald though. versatility isn't really a requirement to be in the trans tier though. Just look at characters like the hulk. He's one of the top high heralds and he can easily jump into the trans tier when necessary but he doesn't have that much speed and certainly lacks in versatility. Also, if thragg is a high herald, what does that make omni-man and invincible (two characters that only a few pages prior to this fight, flew through a planet with ease)? Thragg might have the durability of a herald, but his strength and speed definitely seem to be on the level of most trans characters and he (like all other viltrumites) has an insanely fast healing factor to boot.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Did battle beast job? Especially given his last battle against thragg
Same can be said about Thragg. Did he job in their one on one? We average it out. BBeast had a solid showing vs a guy who is generally considered above him. In the end Thragg killed BBeast. Thragg >>> BBeast if we take the whole picture.

Originally posted by deathslash
versatility isn't really a requirement to be in the trans tier though. Just look at characters like the hulk. He's one of the top high heralds and he can easily jump into the trans tier when necessary but he doesn't have that much speed and certainly lacks in versatility. Also, if thragg is a high herald, what does that make omni-man and invincible (two characters that only a few pages prior to this fight, flew through a planet with ease)? Thragg might have the durability of a herald, but his strength and speed definitely seem to be on the level of most trans characters and he (like all other viltrumites) has an insanely fast healing factor to boot.

Hulk isn't a cream of the crop HH really though, IMO, and he definitely isn't anywhere within sniffing distance of trans.

It was cool when Nolan, Mark, and Thaddeus destroyed Viltrim, but there was definitely an asterisk next to that one due to Space Rider and his gun destabilizing the planet.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Same can be said about Thragg. Did he job in their one on one? We average it out. BBeast had a solid showing vs a guy who is generally considered above him. In the end Thragg killed BBeast. Thragg >>> BBeast if we take the whole picture.

It's more likely BB's power just wasn't really fully established yet.

Edit: double post

Originally posted by deathslash
Also, if thragg is a high herald, what does that make omni-man and invincible (two characters that only a few pages prior to this fight, flew through a planet with ease)? Thragg might have the durability of a herald, but his strength and speed definitely seem to be on the level of most trans characters and he (like all other viltrumites) has an insanely fast healing factor to boot. As mentioned: Space Racer's raygun destabilized Viltrum's core just prior to them flying through it. However, they obviously still had to fly through the planet in order to destroy it, thus it should still be regarded as a great strength/durability showing, imo... Especially given that they survived the subsequent explosion relatively unscathed.

Anyway, Nolan and Mark are definitely HH-level in terms of speed/strength... Which puts Thragg solidly in the trans-tier in those areas as well, imo.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Same can be said about Thragg. Did he job in their one on one? We average it out. BBeast had a solid showing vs a guy who is generally considered above him. In the end Thragg killed BBeast. Thragg >>> BBeast if we take the whole picture.

I dunno. I kinda agree with khaz. I dont think he was fleshed out enough. And their initial battle wasnt concluded. He was tossed aside true but i think he was left out for plot reasons.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Hulk isn't a cream of the crop HH really though, IMO, and he definitely isn't anywhere within sniffing distance of trans.

It was cool when Nolan, Mark, and Thaddeus destroyed Viltrim, but there was definitely an asterisk next to that one due to Space Rider and his gun destabilizing the planet.



It's more likely BB's power just wasn't really fully established yet.

Its personal opinion tbh. Hulk is said to be the most powerful being on earth and has the fts backing it up.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I dunno. I kinda agree with khaz. I dont think he was fleshed out enough. And their initial battle wasnt concluded. He was tossed aside true but i think he was left out for plot reasons. This is the only on panel info we were given:
http://i.imgur.com/c3edkn2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/otyMtQc.jpg

BB just notes that their first battle was never truly finished. /shrug

I know next to nothing (aside from KMC scans) about Invincible, but...

Thragg one-shots Battle Beast as if he was 616 Beast... and then Battle Beast managed to give him the fight of his life...?

Galan, explain uhuh

Originally posted by carver9
Its personal opinion tbh. Hulk is said to be the most powerful being on earth and has the fts backing it up.

Strongest maybe. Definitely not the most powerful, especially considering you had guys like Molecule Man running around at the time.

To be fair, Molecule Man is the biggest pussy in the Marvel Universe.

You yell at him, he will fellatio you. Always worked that way.

Personality aside, there's no comparison power wise between Hulk and Owen.

Of course. But everybody knows that, it doesn't need to be said

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Strongest maybe. Definitely not the most powerful, especially considering you had guys like Molecule Man running around at the time.

Well, it was said (on multiples of occasions). Dont think it can get any clearer imo. Hell, didn't Aaron say in an interview that Hulk is one of the most powerful being in the Universe? They have much love for the character. Cant wait to see the Jane and Hulk fight. It was also referenced recently that Hulk withstood something that would've killed any being on the planet.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Of course. But everybody knows that, it doesn't need to be said

True

He's powerful as f*ck, but he's nothing compared to the guys like Beyonder, Owen, Korvac, Zarathos, Mephisto or Galactus.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I know next to nothing (aside from KMC scans) about Invincible, but...

Thragg one-shots Battle Beast as if he was 616 Beast... and then Battle Beast managed to give him the fight of his life...?

Galan, explain uhuh There's really no explanation aside from the scans I posted above. From an in-universe POV: their first battle was never truly finished. From a more realistic POV: Kirkman probably just wanted to give BB an epic send-off.

Either way, the strength/speed/damage-soak they displayed during their dayS-long battle was f*cking unreal.

Thanks.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's powerful as f*ck, but he's nothing compared to the guys like Beyonder, Owen, Korvac, Zarathos, Mephisto or Galactus.

I know. It was still good to read.

Originally posted by Galan007
Either way, the strength/speed/damage-soak they displayed during their dayS-long battle was f*cking unreal.

Yeah, a great fight.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's powerful as f*ck, but he's nothing compared to the guys like Beyonder, Owen, Korvac, Zarathos, Mephisto or Galactus.

Or strange or jaspers or Franklin or a shit ton of other characters. People take character statements wayyyyy outta proportion

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Or strange or jaspers or Franklin or a shit ton of other characters. People take character statements wayyyyy outta proportion

Indeed. Why would you even bother trying to say crap like that about a brick, when there's universal reality warpers on the planet.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I know next to nothing (aside from KMC scans) about Invincible, but...

Thragg one-shots Battle Beast as if he was 616 Beast... and then Battle Beast managed to give him the fight of his life...?

Galan, explain uhuh

First fight was more of a bfr. I don't think BB can fly, so Thragg threw him far into space (Don't ask me how BB managed to move around the space arena).

Also, I believe it was hinted BB gets stronger the longer he fights. He's sort of a Klingon version of One Punch Man, in that he's so ridiculously powerful that few can even fight him, let alone kill him. When you live to fight and die gloriously, being that stong's kind of a curse.

So Thragg was doing him a favor. I bet BB would even laugh from the afterlife about being turned into a fur coat.. "Well met, warrior. Well met!"

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Or strange or jaspers or Franklin or a shit ton of other characters. People take character statements wayyyyy outta proportion

Could've sworn Strange admitted Hulk is more powerful than him during infinity.

Strange stood up to the Infinity Gauntlet.

With prep, sure, but his average is "one shot a Herald of Galactus... and then floor Galactus himself".