Bebop and Rocksteady vs Ares and Valkyrie

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HulkIsHulk
This maych came to my mind yesterday night. Bebop and Rocksteady are much tougher than anyone in their area but are nowhere near top tier. So I decided to aim for something lowers. How would they fare against these warriors from Olympus and Asgard in:
1. H2h fight
2. Weapon fight. The TMNT duo have whatever bladed and blunt foorce weapons they posses. Ares has his Adamantine axes and his spear, while Valkyrie has her trusty Dragonfang and shield

DarkSaint85
Ares has traded blows with a bloodlusted Hercules - he should be waaay tougher/stronger than the TMNT duo, no? I only know them from the cartoons...

DarkSaint85
FWIW:

http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/8017/441909-the_mighty_avengers_01___page_28.jpg

Of course, he was never written at this level again, lol.

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
- he should be waaay tougher/stronger than the TMNT duo, no? I only know them from the cartoons...
Comic turtles are way stronger than show ones even if i prefer the show. I barely read any IDW but from what I've sern the comic turtles average around 5 tonner level and at high end 30 tonners. The due are clealy superior to the turtles and had an building blow up in their face and wasn't hurt much. Also, I kniw a high end Ares like the one who was beating several Iron Man armors would murder them but as you said he is not always portrayed that way

deathslash
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ares has traded blows with a bloodlusted Hercules - he should be waaay tougher/stronger than the TMNT duo, no? I only know them from the cartoons... http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t623817.html

There are most of their feats.

HulkIsHulk
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2esotn/respect_marvels_ares_god_of_war/
Here's are some of Ares better moments:

HulkIsHulk
http://arousinggrammar.com/2013/04/04/hercules-vs-ares/
fight with hercules

HulkIsHulk
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18863/1008700-picture_4_2_.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18863/1008701-picture_5_2_.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/18863/1008702-picture_6_2_.png
Just to protect Hercules stick out tongue

Sin I AM
Ares solos

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Of course, he was never written at this level again, lol.

He was never written at this level, period.

That was back when Tony was just guessing what to expect from Ares. Better to be "200%" sure than sorry.

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was never written at this level, period.

That was back when Tony was just guessing what to expect from Ares. Better to be "200%" sure than sorry.
And maybe a bit of flattery to win him over

Sin I AM
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was never written at this level, period.

That was back when Tony was just guessing what to expect from Ares. Better to be "200%" sure than sorry.

U must've never read his mini. Plus he had some nice showings in jis avengers run

HulkIsHulk
Other than tearing off mikaboshisvtentacles which is herculrs level

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
And maybe a bit of flattery to win him over

Exactly.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
U must've never read his mini. Plus he had some nice showings in jis avengers run

I have checked out both of his minis.

In the first one, he goes down to bullets... stick out tongue

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Exactly.



I have checked out both of his minis.

In the first one, he goes down to bullets... stick out tongue
IIRC, he went down to bullets because he didn't have his full godly powers. He was in a depowered state like Hercules was during the post-Onslaught era

HulkIsHulk
Also Ares in DS's scans remind me of Punisher

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
IIRC, he went down to bullets because he didn't have his full godly powers. He was in a depowered state like Hercules was during the post-Onslaught era

Well, that'd explain a lot...

HulkIsHulk
So how would Valkyrie do?

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