Batfleck Vs Winter Soilder

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TethAdamTheRock
Shield has sent the greatest winter soilder of all time to go to gotham and locate and capture the Batman.

Lex used his government connections to get the government to chase down the bat after batman intercepted and stole a shipment from lexcorp.

Batman is now viewed by tbe government as a terrorist and threat to national security.


Winter Soilder tracks Batman to an old abandoned area of the city. Batman armored and ready to face the super soldier having left a trail for bucky to follow.

tkitna
Batman with armor would probably win.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by tkitna
Batman with armor would probably win. Actually no, he wouldn't. The ONLY reason he beat Superman was because of the Kryptonite. The armor allowed him not to be utterly annihilated when Superman pushed him, and lets face it, Superman pulled his "punches" against Batman; he never tried to kill him.


Cap is on another level than Batfleck in the movies. And there is no Kryptonite to help Batman this time.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by tkitna
Batman with armor would probably win.

quanchi112
Bucky crushes him.

Silent Master
Batman dies.

FrothByte
Yeah Batman dies. He's too slow with the armor and not quite durable enough without it.

quanchi112
Poor DC.

Quincy
Batman

Silent Master
Loses

FrothByte
badly

Henry_Pym
Bucky kills him before Bruce gets out of the gate.

BruceSkywalker
Batfleck dies

Darth Thor
What feats does Bucky have? Batman has some great durability feats in that armour.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
What feats does Bucky have? Batman has some great durability feats in that armour. So you admit you didn't see the Winter Soldier. Good to know.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Darth Thor
What feats does Bucky have? Batman has some great durability feats in that armour.

When WS goes after someone he uses things like explosives, machine guns and sniper rifles.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Silent Master
When WS goes after someone he uses things like explosives, machine guns and sniper rifles.


And what did Batman use on Superman?

Machine gun fire, sonic weapons, gas grenades. But given the durability of Batman's armour I'd give him the advantage there.

quanchi112
DC fanboys always side with the DC characters. Fanboyism 101.

Silent Master
Kryptonite which isn't really going to work on WS.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Darth Thor
And what did Batman use on Superman?

Machine gun fire, sonic weapons, gas grenades. But given the durability of Batman's armour I'd give him the advantage there.

OP only said Batman is armored up, not that he had configured the entire surroundings with automated weapons.

That said, Bucky is more heavily armored normally than Batfleck.

Silent Master
I guess Darth Thor is saying that Batman's only chance is if he uses his Superman protocols, in other words he's saying that the Winter Soldier is orders of magnitude above Batman.

tkitna
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Actually no, he wouldn't. The ONLY reason he beat Superman was because of the Kryptonite. The armor allowed him not to be utterly annihilated when Superman pushed him, and lets face it, Superman pulled his "punches" against Batman; he never tried to kill him.


Cap is on another level than Batfleck in the movies. And there is no Kryptonite to help Batman this time.

Man, I dont know. Superman was flying him through buildings and stuff. What is Bucky going to do compared to that?

Mindset
Originally posted by tkitna
Man, I dont know. Superman was flying him through buildings and stuff. What is Bucky going to do compared to that? Shoot a grenade at him.

His arm is probably strong enough to eventually break through the suit too.

Silent Master
Originally posted by tkitna
Man, I dont know. Superman was flying him through buildings and stuff. What is Bucky going to do compared to that?

Shoot him in the face or use his grenade launcher.

quanchi112
Bucky is a skilled, tactical killer as if he won't know where to shoot. This is getting sad for the Batman side.

Dr Will Hatch
Bucky breaks his bones AND makes him pay for his medical bills.

carthage
Bucky quite handily beat down multiple shield Agents, sent Stark flying with a kick, shrugged off a blast of his, ko'ed an undercover shield Agent, and slamming the Black widow onto a table are some of his newer feats from a clip.

He didn't even have his gear on him, lol. Bucky caves Bruce's head in

quanchi112
Darth Thor has been run off. Take that DC fanboy. No guts no glory you coward.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Batfleck dies

TethAdamTheRock
Lol

quanchi112
Darth Thor has no pride.

Tattoos N Scars
Originally posted by quanchi112
Marvel fanboys always side with the Marvel characters. Fanboyism 101.


That's right. I prefer DC, but I know Batman loses this.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
That's right. I prefer DC, but I know Batman loses this. So you agree Bucky wins so I'm right. As always.

Tattoos N Scars
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree Bucky wins so I'm right. As always.

Not always, since you believe Marvel guys like Daredevil and Hawkeye can take out any DC character.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Not always, since you believe Marvel guys like Daredevil and Hawkeye can take out any DC character. Proof ?

carver9
After looking at this vid, this is HIGHLY debatable. Batman would probably take the majority.

https://youtu.be/uUTxijFgwLs

Mindset
Originally posted by carver9
After looking at this vid, this is HIGHLY debatable. Batman would probably take the majority.

https://youtu.be/uUTxijFgwLs This movie is going to be amazing.

carver9
I seen this in better quality on IMDB but Cap has a beastly scene here.

https://youtu.be/Zr2r9AbHWNA

NotAllThatEvil
So batman's normal suit took a point blank shot to the head an a flamethrower exploding like three feet from him, but because bucky has a gun he wins?

Silent Master
WS shoots him in the face.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So batman's normal suit took a point blank shot to the head an a flamethrower exploding like three feet from him, but because bucky has a gun he wins? Batman got injured by standard thugs and the fact he allowed himself to get shot in the head (good thing he had armor) by thugs goes to show as good as he is, he's not THAT good. Bucky (in that new clip alone) was seen taking out skilled security personel, Agent 13, Tony Stark, Black Widow and THEN initially beating Black Panther. Yes, Batman did beat Superman, but he did it with Kryptonite. That's like beating up an old man at that point...not really impressive.

NotAllThatEvil
Those tgugs were trained mercenaries and i don't recall batman being injured by them. They dogpiled him bu he got out okay.

quanchi112
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
So batman's normal suit took a point blank shot to the head an a flamethrower exploding like three feet from him, but because bucky has a gun he wins? Bucky has superior firepower, superior strength, and superior skills. He wins, kid.

NotAllThatEvil
Bucky has a grenade launcher. Bats has a suit that withstood a pissed superman so no to the fire power. What is bucky's best strength feat? In winter soldier all I can remember is him fighting cap, who was knocked around by some dude on a boat at the begginig of that movie.

Silent Master
WS shoots him in the face.

juggerman
Batman might actually do better without the armor imo

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by juggerman
Batman might actually do better without the armor imo Problem is, without the Armor Batman gets murdered straight up. WS won't play around. The armor at least gives him protection from most hits; but slows him down. Either way, he'll be too slow to beat Bucky with his armor and too vulnerable to win without it. Batman loses either scenario.

relentless1
Bats in his regular suit stands a better chance. Unless Bucky uses explosives, knives and small arms fire isn't going to put Bruce down. Having said that I think Bucky wins based on being a harder hitter than Batman, id give batman the edge in actual fighting skill tho but it won't be enough especially when it comes to the mech arm.

quanchi112
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Bucky has a grenade launcher. Bats has a suit that withstood a pissed superman so no to the fire power. What is bucky's best strength feat? In winter soldier all I can remember is him fighting cap, who was knocked around by some dude on a boat at the begginig of that movie. Superman wasn't trying to kill him just hurt him and win the fight. Bucky will kill him. Intent, kiddo. Bucky is also far more skilled with weaponry that will kill Batman.

Mindset
Originally posted by relentless1
Bats in his regular suit stands a better chance. Unless Bucky uses explosives, knives and small arms fire isn't going to put Bruce down. Having said that I think Bucky wins based on being a harder hitter than Batman, id give batman the edge in actual fighting skill tho but it won't be enough especially when it comes to the mech arm. How does Batman have the edge in fighting skill?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Mindset
How does Batman have the edge in fighting skill?

He's a DC character, that's all the reason relentless1 needs.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Silent Master
WS shoots him in the face. Has he ever shot anyone in the face?

Silent Master
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Has he ever shot anyone in the face?

Are you claiming that he's not a good enough shot to hit Batman in the face?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you claiming that he's not a good enough shot to hit Batman in the face? I'm not sure he would do that or has shown the ability to do so.

Silent Master
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm not sure he would do that or has shown the ability to do so.

You don't think he's shown the ability to hit what he's aiming at?

TheVaultDweller
Not to mention no idea why he wouldn't do it if he got the opening. He's shot a bunch of people, including Widow, Cap and Fury, by now.

Silent Master
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Not to mention no idea why he wouldn't do it if he got the opening. He's shot a bunch of people, including Widow, Cap and Fury, by now.

juggernaut74 believes that WS can't hit anything he aims at.

TheVaultDweller
Anyone who questions Bucky's marksmanship needs to rewatch the films. Even in TFA, before becoming the Winter Soldier, he showed himself to be a skilled shooter, when he sniped an enemy soldier in the one scene, before Cap even noticed the guy.

Silent Master
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Anyone who questions Bucky's marksmanship needs to rewatch the films. Even in TFA, before becoming the Winter Soldier, he showed himself to be a skilled shooter, when he sniped an enemy soldier in the one scene, before Cap even noticed the guy.

None of the people WS has shot were DC characters, so it doesn't count.

quanchi112
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm not sure he would do that or has shown the ability to do so. You sound like an idiot.

juggerman
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Problem is, without the Armor Batman gets murdered straight up. WS won't play around. The armor at least gives him protection from most hits; but slows him down. Either way, he'll be too slow to beat Bucky with his armor and too vulnerable to win without it. Batman loses either scenario.

Oh I don't think he win without the armor, just that he might be able to dodge a bit without the armor weighing him down. He loses either way but he loses faster in the armor imo

Igniz
Batfleck is gonna get murdered by Winter Soldier. Crossbones also had a suit capable of sending Cap flying with each blow. Yet Cap still owned Crossbones. And Bucky is at par with Cap in strength and skill department. Not to mention Bucky was able to hurt Ironman(who's suit is superior to that Junksuit worn by Batman). And this is with his natural arm. Of course the metal arm is doing the most hurting. Batfleck doesn't have a unibeam in that Junk suit. So he's not going to destroy Bucky's bionic arm. Lets also add Bucky's speed in that chase scene and taking on Black Panther(Who's Vibranium armor would rip Batfleck's junk suit with his vibranium claws). Bucky wins.

Darth Thor
Not sure why people think Armored Batfleck is so slow. I didn't get that impression.

Also I think when he leaped onto Superman kicking him through the roof that was a superhuman leap.

juggerman
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not sure why people think Armored Batfleck is so slow. I didn't get that impression.

Also I think when he leaped onto Superman kicking him through the roof that was a superhuman leap.

You have to agree that Batman is slower in that armor than he is out of it

Darth Thor
Originally posted by juggerman
You have to agree that Batman is slower in that armor than he is out of it


That doesn't make him slow though.

I'd definitely give Batman a far better chance against WS in his armor given the armor's insane durability.

juggerman
Originally posted by Darth Thor
That doesn't make him slow though.

I'd definitely give Batman a far better chance against WS in his armor given the armor's insane durability.

Given how quickly Batfleck moved around in that room where the cop was shooting at him and how fast he was in that scene where he cleared the room vs his much more lumbering movement in the armor I'd say he is much slower in the armor.

Silent Master
WS wins.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
That doesn't make him slow though.

I'd definitely give Batman a far better chance against WS in his armor given the armor's insane durability. His lack of mobility would hurt him worse than the increased durability.

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