Rank These Guys in Strength

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TethAdamTheRock
WWH
King Hyperion
Hyperion (616) from Thor
Thor
Hercules
Gladiator

I would Assume

WWH (Was Much Stronger Than Hercules )
King Hyperion (Stronger Than Hyperion)
Hyperion (Stronger Than Thor)= Gladiator
Thor=Hercules

Am I correct?

Can WWH take on Two Hyperions?
and CAN King Hyperion Kill Gladiator?
Is Gladiator stronger than Herculese?

Where would you put Superman? King Hyperion Level? Or Below? Cause Superman was stronger than Thor by a notch

and What about Wonder Woman? is Wonder Woman Stronger than Thor?

JBL
There are characters listed here that are just as strong or stronger than superman.

Surtur
Where would we put Superman? Well above everyone else obviously, where he belongs.

Surtur
Originally posted by JBL
There are characters listed here that are just as strong or stronger than superman.

Dude I didn't see God on the list, whaat?

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by JBL
There are characters listed here that are just as strong or stronger than superman. I agree.

StiltmanFTW
Superman can't even lift 2 tons, canon fact.

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by Surtur
Where would we put Superman? Well above everyone else obviously, where he belongs. Is Wonder Woman Stronger than Thor?

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Superman can't even lift 2 tons, canon fact. But Seriously

Surtur
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Is Wonder Woman Stronger than Thor?

No cuz she's a girl.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Superman can't even lift 2 tons, canon fact.

I heard one time he needed help lifting a book..what a pussy.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
But Seriously

Seriously. It happened on panel. Give me a second...

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by One-Punch
wink

Superman tries and fails to push a two ton pummel and gets smashed by it. He nearly gets Jimmy, his best friend, killed.

http://s15.postimg.org/tcwcodts7/P00099.jpg http://s15.postimg.org/hit74hkw7/P00107.jpg http://s15.postimg.org/55gcxkv7r/P00108.jpg

Owned by two whole tons...

Surtur
I kind of think he just wanted Jimmy to be killed, that is how I interpret pretty much any scene with Superman and Jimmy Olsen. Superman has this weird thing of not wanting his friends to experience happiness or success. I mean you'd think that since he's Superman he ALWAYS will look better then Jimmy no matter what Jimmy does, but he still just wants to basically kill Jimmy or behave in a way that makes Jimmy want to kill himself. Or both.

If Jimmy died we all know that in 2 weeks time he'd grow bored and run back in time and save him just so he could mess with him.

StiltmanFTW
He even made his dad experience a tornado, lol.

Surtur
He just wanted to teach him about tornado safety. I feel like you're judging Superman for wanting people to be aware of the dangers of this planet.

Just um..don't ask how he spread the word about aids in the 1980's.

TethAdamTheRock
Where did it say it was 2 tons?

StiltmanFTW
facepalm

You never cease to amaze me, Colossus.

First page. First panel smile

Surtur
I think the super mullet saps his powers though.

h1a8
Originally posted by JBL
There are characters listed here that are just as strong or stronger than superman. No one listed in the open is stronger than Superman. His feats of strength are simply better in magnitude.

I would say
WWH
Gladiator
Hyperion (the one that fought Gladiator)
Hercules
Thor (very very close to Hercules though)

I don't know much about king Hyperion.

h1a8
2 tons isn't enough to bend the steel spikes that were bent on Superman's back. It takes over 100 tons to bend steel spikes in that manner.
Either
1. The block was 2 tons but had additional pushing force on it.
2. Bad writing

If 2. then feat would be classified as PIS and not usable. That means it can't even be used for averaging.

lawest9
Originally posted by Surtur
Where would we put Superman? Well above everyone else obviously, where he belongs. This 👍

JBL
Originally posted by h1a8
No one listed in the open is stronger than Superman. His feats of strength are simply better in magnitude.

I would say
WWH
Gladiator
Hyperion (the one that fought Gladiator)
Hercules
Thor (very very close to Hercules though)

I don't know much about king Hyperion. Not even the DC writer's would agree with you. Superman might be a notch above Wonder woman, but that's it. Think what you want.

abhilegend
Originally posted by JBL
Not even the DC writer's would agree with you. Superman might be a notch above Wonder woman, but that's it. Think what you want.
He is a notch above Thor too.

thumb up

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
WWH
King Hyperion
Hyperion (616) from Thor
Thor
Hercules
Gladiator

I would Assume

WWH (Was Much Stronger Than Hercules )
King Hyperion (Stronger Than Hyperion)
Hyperion (Stronger Than Thor)= Gladiator
Thor=Hercules

Am I correct?

From Thor in, on average there is very little that separates them. I have Thor #2 because he has a better resume of strength feats as opposed to the remaining four.

WWH
Thor
Hercules
King Hyperion
Gladiator
Hyperion(classic)

carver9
Thor is pretty got darn strong. He is most def High Herald strong.

Surtur
Originally posted by lawest9
This 👍

He does have a pretty sweet crown, plus that dope leopard skin cape he has on:

http://luchins.com/dickery/action311_king-superman.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
From Thor in, on average there is very little that separates them. I have Thor #2 because he has a better resume of strength feats as opposed to the remaining four.

WWH
Thor
Hercules
King Hyperion
Gladiator
Hyperion(classic)
laughing out loud

Only a little? WWH was at least 50% stronger than Thor.

Gladiator is most definitely stronger than Thor at this point.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Only a little? WWH was at least 50% stronger than Thor. Maybe with regular portrayals. But whatever u say.. Not sure why ure asking this question. Wasn't even comparing WWH with the rest.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Gladiator is most definitely stronger than Thor at this point.
durpalm

the Darkone
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
From Thor in, on average there is very little that separates them. I have Thor #2 because he has a better resume of strength feats as opposed to the remaining four.

WWH
Thor
Hercules
King Hyperion
Gladiator
Hyperion(classic)

thumb up I agree with this

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Maybe with regular portrayals. But whatever u say.. Not sure why ure asking this question. Wasn't even comparing WWH with the rest.
No maybe.

Just compare them both against Phoenix Five.

Heck, an alternate featless Gladiator has knocked out Thor with two punches.

thumb up

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Only a little? WWH was at least 50% stronger than Thor.

Gladiator is most definitely stronger than Thor at this point. Also how is Thor stronger than Classic Hyperion (Who is stronger than Thor btw) let alone King Hyperion??

Gladiator is stronger than thor

Thor is at the bottom with Hercules

TethAdamTheRock
This is really between WWH and King Hyperion

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
No maybe.

Just compare them both against Phoenix Five.

Heck, an alternate featless Gladiator has knocked out Thor with two punches.

thumb up
P5? Are u serious?

We've been through this many times. You always forget to acknowledge the part about bloodlusted alternate Gladz and a holding back Thor. Consequently bloodlusted Gladz was completely put out to pasture when his opponent basically stopped messing around. Smh..

The logical thing to do is post strength feats instead of constantly weaving all kinds of misdirection.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Also how is Thor stronger than Classic Hyperion (Who is stronger than Thor btw) let alone King Hyperion??

Gladiator is stronger than thor

Thor is at the bottom with Hercules
Big C... Why is classic Hype and Gladiator stronger?

h1a8
Originally posted by JBL
Not even the DC writer's would agree with you. Superman might be a notch above Wonder woman, but that's it. Think what you want. each writer has different opinions. That's why we use feats.
So you are blatantly trolling and saying that feats don't matter?

Blue Area Vet
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Only a little? WWH was at least 50% stronger than Thor.

Gladiator is most definitely stronger than Thor at this point.

You are a half notch above mongoloid.

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Big C... Why is classic Hype and Gladiator stronger? Because the writers want him to be, it's pretty much the theme in their duo

Gladiator and Hyperion are stronger than thor

Where as Hulk was portrayed as being stronger then gladiator and hyperion

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Because the writers want him to be, it's pretty much the theme in their duo
You remind me of a certain former poster. Can't quite put my finger on it...
hmm


Anyways... Please elaborate.

abhilegend
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Also how is Thor stronger than Classic Hyperion (Who is stronger than Thor btw) let alone King Hyperion??

Gladiator is stronger than thor

Thor is at the bottom with Hercules
Nah, Classic Hyperion was equal to Thor in strength. Originally posted by celeyhyga17
P5? Are u serious?

We've been through this many times. You always forget to acknowledge the part about bloodlusted alternate Gladz and a holding back Thor. Consequently bloodlusted Gladz was completely put out to pasture when his opponent basically stopped messing around. Smh..

The logical thing to do is post strength feats instead of constantly weaving all kinds of misdirection.
Yeah, I'm serious. Why wouldn't I be?

Yes, Thor beating Gladiator with at least half a dozen two handed mjolnir strikes and several energy blasts doesn't changes anything. If anything it shows the strength disparity.

laughing out loudOriginally posted by Blue Area Vet
You are a half notch above mongoloid.
STFU idiot.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, Classic Hyperion was equal to Thor in strength.

Yeah, I'm serious. Why wouldn't I be?

Yes, Thor beating Gladiator with at least half a dozen two handed mjolnir strikes and several energy blasts doesn't changes anything. If anything it shows the strength disparity.

Sorry. He lacks the resume. He's a peer though. If you can show me better feats, then you'd have something. Unfortunately for you it ain't happening.


That "serious" question was rhetorical. Pointless with P5 comparisons. Pretty plain to see.


Hmm... Half a dozen? Several blasts? Weird. U must have a different book. Anyways it's great you acknowledged a holding back Thor and bloodlusted Gladz. thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Sorry. He lacks the resume. He's a peer though. If you can show me better feats, then you'd have something. Unfortunately for you it ain't happening.

Sure can do. Just check their fights with Phoenix five.






Ah yes, its pointless for you perhaps. But you are a thorbag, what else was expected.




I was talking about bloodlusted Thor as well.

Two punches.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059390_ThorvsGladiator05.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059391_ThorvsGladiator06.jpg

Vs four two handed strikes with mjolnir and several energy blasts.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059392_ThorvsGladiator07v235.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059393_ThorvsGladiator08.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059395_ThorvsGladiator10.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059396_ThorvsGladiator11.jpg

It took a full ten hammer shots from an enraged Masterson Thor to keep him down.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator01445.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator05.jpg

Thor has almost went down to one attack from Mjolnir by Red Norvell after which he finished him off by an energy blast. Heck, Norvell was about to kill him at that point.

http://s4.postimg.org/jzo57rnyl/ragnarok3a_620x934.jpg
http://s3.postimg.org/5hhuuvppf/ragnarok3b_620x936.jpg
http://s2.postimg.org/mjrurpq2h/ragnarok3c.jpg

Airwalker oneshotted Thor with mjolnir.

http://i.imgur.com/fmY6cO9.jpg

Beating someone with a hammer doesn't makes you stronger than them.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure can do. Just check their fights with Phoenix five.

What does classic Hype have to do with P5?
Purposely avoiding your little misstep I see. Figures. No show me these strength feats.


Originally posted by abhilegend

Ah yes, its pointless for you perhaps. But you are a thorbag, what else was expected.
What did Gladiator do vs P5 other than getting the living shiet kicked out of him by PNamor and PColossus?
Should I bring up what Thor did to the entirety of the Phoenix entity? Going down this road for you does not end well.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I was talking about bloodlusted Thor as well.

Two punches.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059390_ThorvsGladiator05.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059391_ThorvsGladiator06.jpg

Vs four two handed strikes with mjolnir and several energy blasts.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059392_ThorvsGladiator07v235.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059393_ThorvsGladiator08.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059395_ThorvsGladiator10.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27059396_ThorvsGladiator11.jpg


Lol... Well for one he was holding back. Second, he was not out to kill Gladiator. You have a very strange idea of bloodlusted. Lol... So half dozen turned to 4 and 1 blast(final attack sequence) is several . Really hard to take you seriously.

Originally posted by abhilegend

It took a full ten hammer shots from an enraged Masterson Thor to keep him down.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator01445.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator05.jpg


Lol... Nice of you to post scans of a lesser Thor beating the shiet out of a willing to kill Gladiator. If you're going to go the route of misdirection at least understand the scans. Masterson hammering away at Gladz does not mean he needed 10 shots to put Gladz down. It was more than likely Gladz was out cold way before the full number of shots. As evidenced of course by the reaction of his teammates. Here you go again with the inability to properly comprehend stories.
facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend

Thor has almost went down to one attack from Mjolnir by Red Norvell after which he finished him off by an energy blast. Heck, Norvell was about to kill him at that point.

http://s4.postimg.org/jzo57rnyl/ragnarok3a_620x934.jpg
http://s3.postimg.org/5hhuuvppf/ragnarok3b_620x936.jpg
http://s2.postimg.org/mjrurpq2h/ragnarok3c.jpg

Airwalker oneshotted Thor with mjolnir.

http://i.imgur.com/fmY6cO9.jpg

Beating someone with a hammer doesn't makes you stronger than them.
Thor has been ko'd by far less. He's also survived far far worse like taking beating from multiple Celestials. You make no sense.

Now stop with the lowballing, misinterpretations, and misdirections and get to the heart of the matter. What feats of strength do Gladiator have that clearly put him above Thor? I have a sinking feeling you'll run from this question.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What does classic Hype have to do with P5?
Purposely avoiding your little misstep I see. Figures. No show me these strength feats.

I was talking to someone else.





Actually managed to hold himself against Cyclops in a lengthy fight and made him bleed. Cyclops overpowered Thor by a finger.



Phoenix itself isn't that durable. Xorn actually killed it and fractured it into billion pieces.






So now even then Thor was holding back? Haha, what else you want to make excuses for? Thor blasted Gladiator several times before that, he was fighting Tarene before that as well.

But Gladiator KTFO Thor with two punches, that doesn't counts for anything.

Riggggght.




Yes, after a cheapshot which stunned Gladiator. Before that he had beat the shit out of Masterson.



Gladiator wasn't even that badly injured and was regaining consciousness just pages after that.

Those many shots to the head by mjolnir would cave Thor's head in going by how he crumples to the floor anytime he gets hit by it.

laughing out loud



He is at least conscious untill the sixth shot to the head after he was stunned.

Thor gets koed by a single shot from mjolnir from behind in such a situation. Not even an all out attack either.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2927983-1.png

laughing out loud


These are the showings from the same arc. But I like how everytime its the same celestials as if nobody else has survived attacks from Celestials.

Heck, Thing has survived attacks from Celestials.



Knocking out Thor in two attacks doesn't put him over Thor?

What would be necessary to make someone stronger than Thor IYO?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
I was talking to someone else.
Yet you direct quoted me. Hmm...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Actually managed to hold himself against Cyclops in a lengthy fight and made him bleed. Cyclops overpowered Thor by a finger.

Lengthy fight? Made him bleed? They started off with an eye blast that he was quickly losing then spears and punches PCyke. Then gets utterly annihilated by PNamor and PColossus.

Thor KO'd the full Phoenix by hitting it with enough force to send it flying planetary distances. erm

Originally posted by abhilegend

Phoenix itself isn't that durable. Xorn actually killed it and fractured it into billion pieces.

Now ure lowballing the Phoenix? Xorn for all the wierdness of the character had a "white star" in his head where he derived his power from. He caused her to have a massive stroke which ultimately scattered the PF into billions of pieces.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So now even then Thor was holding back? Haha, what else you want to make excuses for? Thor blasted Gladiator several times before that, he was fighting Tarene before that as well.

But Gladiator KTFO Thor with two punches, that doesn't counts for anything.

Riggggght.
facepalm

Thor was holding back until the very last sequence... What is hard to understand? It's right there in your scans.



Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, after a cheapshot which stunned Gladiator. Before that he had beat the shit out of Masterson.

Gladiator wasn't even that badly injured and was regaining consciousness just pages after that.

Those many shots to the head by mjolnir would cave Thor's head in going by how he crumples to the floor anytime he gets hit by it.

laughing out loud

Are we reading the same comic? A lesser Thor(Masterson) had a prolonged strength stalemate. Heck it's right there in your scan. Reading fail... I swear.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He is at least conscious untill the sixth shot to the head after he was stunned.

Thor gets koed by a single shot from mjolnir from behind in such a situation. Not even an all out attack either.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2927983-1.png

laughing out loud

Like I said. Thor has been taken out by far less and has powered through things skyfather and beyond has no business surviving.
More of your irrelevant blather...

Originally posted by abhilegend

These are the showings from the same arc. But I like how everytime its the same celestials as if nobody else has survived attacks from Celestials.

Heck, Thing has survived attacks from Celestials.
Read above and let the point sink in.


Originally posted by abhilegend

Knocking out Thor in two attacks doesn't put him over Thor?

What would be necessary to make someone stronger than Thor IYO?
No when there's a lot of context involved. I know you are throwing out all kinds of deflections and fallacious reasoning as is your mo, but I tire of your style. Just show me these definitive feats of strength that clearly put Gladiator > Thor or classic Hype = Thor as you earlier claimed. Simple really....

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yet you direct quoted me. Hmm...

I quoted someone else too.




Yes, the eyeblast itself happened for two pages.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068983_lP1s0.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068984_xsUuo.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068985_TeNLO.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068986_pUpzi.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068987_gFA0u.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068988_DXI5z.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068989_82Eqg.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068990_JZpEv.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068991_ESyXU.jpg

For Thor, it was two pages worth and getting overpowered by pinky finger.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125228/4617026-5665528036-24177.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125228/4617029-7323574982-phoen.jpg

Magik and Colossus oneshotted Thor.

http://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/27069251_phoenix-five-colossus-and-magik-vs-thor-1.jpg

The fact that Gladiator took so many attacks from Colossus and Namor is a feat in itself.



And Tony split it into five pieces. PF in itself isn't so durable. The fact that every phoenix wielder like Mar-Vell or Phoenix Five wiped their asses with Thor should tell you how it goes.




Xorn had a stored a planetary level EMP which Magneto tosses around with impunity.

Heck, Shiar ships were threatening to kill it.






He can't hold back his durability. He is not Superman.



Even going all out he took more attacks to stun Gladiator than Gladiator took to KTFO him. You can count, I take it?






The strength lock was for two panels. The ground gave out before anyone could overpower another.

That's not a stalemate.

And Masterson was exactly as strong as Thor.






So nothing matters anymore because he has survived far less and far more?

What idiocy is this?




Oh do shut up. Show me Thor taking even two or three mjolnir strikes to the head and not crumpling in a heap.

Heck, even Odin Force Thor crumpled in a heap with three shots from mjolnir.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/redhulkthor5-620x945.jpg





Easy, Gladiator kTFO Thor in two punches. As for Hyperion, Thor himself said so.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27069347/09.jpg.html

"Equal in sheer power" was his exact wording. Of course you will disagree.

Genii96
Little point of note....against gladiator,cyke was trying to reason with him at first during the eye beam blast,that's why it took that long

TethAdamTheRock
Phoenix force Colossus still one shotted Thor though.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
I quoted someone else too.
.
Whatever makes u feel better.


Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, the eyeblast itself happened for two pages.

http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068985_TeNLO.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068986_pUpzi.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/27068987_gFA0u.jpg
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068988/DXI5z.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068989/82Eqg.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068990/JZpEv.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068991/ESyXU.jpg.html

So six panels involving a losing an eyeblast battle and a charge into a punch is a "lengthy battle" with PCyclops? Lol lol lol...
And the rest is Gladz getting the utter shiet kicked out of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

For Thor, it was two pages worth and getting overpowered by pinky finger.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125228/4617026-5665528036-24177.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125228/4617029-7323574982-phoen.jpg

Magik and Colossus oneshotted Thor.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27069251/phoenix-five-colossus-and-magik-vs-thor-1.jpg.html
The fact that Gladiator took so many attacks from Colossus and Namor is a feat in itself.

Reading fail. Pinky finger? The hammer swing was forcibly stopped by PClops before it even connected?

Again reading fail. The single panel with PClossus and PMagik was to describe Cap's statement to Spidey of Thor being captured. In fact it was probably a lengthy battle since it involved multiple Avengers finally escaping the Phoenix users. Worse yet is you used a cropped scan leaving out the conversation between Cap and Spidey that continued on in the next page.

The panel is akin to Blue Marvel's panel punching Pagan and calling it a one-shot.
http://s663.photobucket.com/user/ankur29/media/AgeofHeroes03pg21copy.jpg.html
Utterly stupid considering it is but a snapshot of what fully happened.

The sad thing for you is for all the worf effect Thor was forced into during AvX, he still had better showings when compared to Gladz. He took on PNamor and Rachel for most of a comic. Heck he fought PEmma for half a book and even smashed her diamond form punting it to space at one point.

And then there's even a showing which literally takes a big dump on anything Gladz did during AvX. Like ko'ing the entirety of the PF and hitting it so hard that it gets punted planetary distances. Hell he fought from the Eridani System which was light years away all the way to the earth's moon.

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/11871948_AVX-Zone_005.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/11871949_AVX-Zone_006.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/11871950_AVX-Zone_007.jpg
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Thor's latest fight with the phoenix. Thor seems to be able to hurt it one more time before going down.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Here we've got a pretty epic confrontation between Thor and the Phoenix. What exactly happens in this scene. Does Thor hit the Phoenix so hard that it needs to stop and refuel?

Yeah, the idea was here's was basically Phoenix versus a god, which, you know, seems like a fair fight. So Thor went and smacked the Phoenix so hard that he knocked the bird out. He thinks he won, but it lands on another planet and then all of a sudden the planet lights up and the Phoenix consumes it. At that point Thor realizes he's screwed, and we realize not even a god can stop it.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39002



Originally posted by abhilegend

And Tony split it into five pieces. PF in itself isn't so durable. The fact that every phoenix wielder like Mar-Vell or Phoenix Five wiped their asses with Thor should tell you how it goes.

Fail.. Again.. Are you talking about Tony's specifically designed and painstakingly PREPPED armor to do just that. El oh el on you.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Xorn had a stored a planetary level EMP which Magneto tosses around with impunity.

Heck, Shiar ships were threatening to kill it.

He caused a planetary level stroke on the host(jean) which ultimately splintered the phoenix force.

Again it is utterly ridiculous to go the route of lowballing the Phoenix. Desperation indeed.


Originally posted by abhilegend

He can't hold back his durability. He is not Superman.

This statement lacks thought considering we are talking about a medium where the good guy often gets taken down early in the story only to rise up later and beat the villain. Usually accomplished when taking off the kid gloves and no linger holding back. I can show u countless examples from Thor, but that would derail the main subject of this thread. Get me brah?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Even going all out he took more attacks to stun Gladiator than Gladiator took to KTFO him. You can count, I take it?
Read above and let it sink in.

Originally posted by abhilegend

The strength lock was for two panels. The ground gave out before anyone could overpower another.

That's not a stalemate.

And Masterson was exactly as strong as Thor.
Your own scan says "terrible irresistible strength struggles against unrelenting immovable muscle" before the ground gave way. Need I say more.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator02.jpg.html
That is a strength stalemate against a lesser Thor. Claiming it something other than that is quite frankly dumb.


Originally posted by abhilegend

So nothing matters anymore because he has survived far less and far more?

What idiocy is this?

Why continue to go off into more tangents? I get you are the lowball and smokescreen king, but this is getting ridiculous. You did this to yourself. No one's fault you can't come up with anything coherent after your misstep. Stick to the main subject.



Originally posted by abhilegend

Oh do shut up. Show me Thor taking even two or three mjolnir strikes to the head and not crumpling in a heap.

Heck, even Odin Force Thor crumpled in a heap with three shots from mjolnir.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/redhulkthor5-620x945.jpg

Thor has taken worse punishment. Heck his rogues gallery has an impossibly powerful Odin wrought uru metal monster. He's taken multiple blows worse than what Gladz has gone through from this monster and at times even took Mjolnir shots in the process. Smh... Quit with the smokescreens.


Originally posted by abhilegend

Easy, Gladiator kTFO Thor in two punches. As for Hyperion, Thor himself said so.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27069347/09.jpg.html

"Equal in sheer power" was his exact wording. Of course you will disagree.
You've got nothing. Everyone knows this and you know this hence all the red herrings, the smokescreens, and going off into tangents to escape the main issues.

Same goes for classic Hype. For a guy that always goes around screaming "feats over statements feats over statements", you sure do look like a hypocrite. So easy to turn this around on you. You haven't changed.



Still here waiting on proof that Gladz being clearly stronger and Hype as a clear equal. Come at me with more smokescreens and avoid the main issue. I need a good laugh.

h1a8
Glads and Thor are near physical peers when Thor has Mjolnir. Without Mjolnir Glads is physically superior.
Him bashing a planet to pieces with his bare hands is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise. Glads going toe to toe with Cyke is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Whatever makes u feel better.

Still apologizing for Thor's failures I see.





Yes. When this happened to an amped Thor.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iWtswrsvfwg/VO_ZZx_VOwI/AAAAAAAINxU/jkN3aHBjklM/s1600/p6_25%2Bcopy.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5bLWKbenxko/VO_ZdtRz0HI/AAAAAAAINyA/LQsu9PWY7Mk/s1600/p6_31%2Bcopy.jpg



He is at least conscious while this.

Thor got oneshotted.




Wut? Scott stopped the hammer swing by just a finger. Are you blind or something?




Haha, speculations abundance.

"Probably a lengthy fight scene." Never stop apologizing for Thor.



Haha, the simple gall of this guy.

I'm curious about the lengthy fight you are talking about.



He had no no effect on Namor and Rachel dropped him. That's a good showing for you? Heck, Thing drew blood from Namor but Thor couldn't.

You are so easily confused, its not even funny.




Yeah, PF wasn't as durable as the hosts. That's nothing new. He got oneshotted four times in a row against PF which should be a record on itself.

Gladiator never fought the PF, so the comparison is meaningless.








Yes. The armor which split Phoenix in five parts.

What a good showing for Phoenix.




Planetary stroke is nothing for a herald level being much less for a being like Phoenix Force.

These are its actual durability showings. I'd like to see PF's durability in its purest form though which you are touting as so beastly.





Ah, generalization. That was only thing missing.

What next? Thor didn't had his milk that day?


I'd like to know why didn't thor twoshot Gladiator even with hammer swings while Gladiator twoshotted Thor.



Yes, your desperation is palpable.




Yes, that the strength lock was inconclusive. Iron Man has matched Thor better than that.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Stats/MarkIIStrength06AvengersClassic1.jpg



Masterson had the full power of Thor as reminded again in the same comic. I'd like to know how he was a "lesser thor".






Hahaha, this is just lulzworthy. You are simply refusing to accept any showing for Thor because "he has taken far more". That's not how it works idiot.






Ah, the ol as dirt "everyone knows it."

Keep apologizing for Thor. Its amusing.



So now a statement from Thor means nothing? I'd like to see where Hyperion is shown weaker than Thor though. Just one scene.





Haha, this guy and his excuses. Already posted the proof. Its not my fault if you just bury your head into sand and ignore everything.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Still apologizing for Thor's failures I see.

Right on cue. Nothing of importance.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes. When this happened to an amped Thor.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iWtswrsvfwg/VO_ZZx_VOwI/AAAAAAAINxU/jkN3aHBjklM/s1600/p6_25%2Bcopy.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5bLWKbenxko/VO_ZdtRz0HI/AAAAAAAINyA/LQsu9PWY7Mk/s1600/p6_31%2Bcopy.jpg

He is at least conscious while this.

Thor got oneshotted.
Conscious? Gladiator was basically out on his feet.. They basically were pounding on a guy who was non responsive. God you love to be corrected.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Wut? Scott stopped the hammer swing by just a finger. Are you blind or something?

Wow! You are the absolute worst at reading scans. He telekinetically stopped the swing. It never connected. Heck the page prior he telekinetically removed Stark's armor. Jesus Christ you are awful.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, speculations abundance.

"Probably a lengthy fight scene." Never stop apologizing for Thor.

Haha, the simple gall of this guy.

I'm curious about the lengthy fight you are talking about.

I already explained it to you. I'm not in the mood to have to continuously hold your hand through every scan. Even worse is you used a scan that should have explained this had you not cropped it. You fail at everything.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He had no no effect on Namor and Rachel dropped him. That's a good showing for you? Heck, Thing drew blood from Namor but Thor couldn't.

You are so easily confused, its not even funny.
Lol. He ultimately had no effect. What did you expect? It was a Phoenix user he was up against and they pretty much were wrecking everybody. But during the fight, he was able to knock down PNamor and had a brief blast stalemate.

Thor drew blood from PNamor the same comic Rulk and Thing did u doof.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, PF wasn't as durable as the hosts. That's nothing new. He got oneshotted four times in a row against PF which should be a record on itself.

Gladiator never fought the PF, so the comparison is meaningless.

He smacked the Phoenix multiple planetary distances while knocking it out for crying out loud! And survived having to fight it from light years away all the way to the earth's moon.
erm

What a dumb way to dismiss feats. What's next? You going to start claiming 1/5 of the Phoenix > full Phoenix force? Utterly dumb.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes. The armor which split Phoenix in five parts.

What a good showing for Phoenix.
What part of specifically PREPPED armor is not computing here. Abhilowball to the fullest.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Planetary stroke is nothing for a herald level being much less for a being like Phoenix Force.

These are its actual durability showings. I'd like to see PF's durability in its purest form though which you are touting as so beastly.
For a host it is.

Lol. You brought up its durability I didn't. I'm simply pointing out that as a whole it is more powerful than a fifth of it. This is a muck of your own doing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Ah, generalization. That was only thing missing.

What next? Thor didn't had his milk that day?


I'd like to know why didn't thor twoshot Gladiator even with hammer swings while Gladiator twoshotted Thor.

I'd like to know why are you using faulty reasoning and diverging from the main argument instead of proving and backing up your statement with feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, your desperation is palpable.

Yes, that the strength lock was inconclusive. Iron Man has matched Thor better than that.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Stats/MarkIIStrength06AvengersClassic1.jpg

Riiight. Desperation... And yet you are the one scrounging for low showings. You notice I haven't posted any low showing for Gladiator?
Hell he's stalemated Herc in multiple arm wrestling matches. And you know damn well Herc is far beyond IM. Not to mention one of their matches produced sufficient force to throw the planet they were on out of orbit.

You really do fit the moniker of Abhilowball. It's your go to move when cornered.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Masterson had the full power of Thor as reminded again in the same comic. I'd like to know how he was a "lesser thor".

It's like saying any old Kryptonian is equal to Superman. Again you fail hard.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, this is just lulzworthy. You are simply refusing to accept any showing for Thor because "he has taken far more". That's not how it works idiot.
You are mistaken. You are clinging on to useless showings and even bringing up low showings in hopes to smokescreen. You are transparent.



Originally posted by abhilegend

Ah, the ol as dirt "everyone knows it."

Keep apologizing for Thor. Its amusing.
Nothing here of substance. Concession accepted. thumb up

Originally posted by abhilegend

So now a statement from Thor means nothing? I'd like to see where Hyperion is shown weaker than Thor though. Just one scene.

Dude.. Thor's feat history is pretty self explanatory. I never said Thor was far stronger. My stance is though Hype is a peer, Thor's strength feats trumps his hence the edge.
Now where is your proof? Where are these feats? Don't be a coward as your white knight used to say.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, this guy and his excuses. Already posted the proof. Its not my fault if you just bury your head into sand and ignore everything.
Not when your proof was shot down with a comparable showing that takes a huge dump on it. Not when your proof is bringing up low showings. Not when your proof are red herrings designed to muddy the waters in hopes of escaping the real issue.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Right on cue. Nothing of importance.


laughing out loud

Perhaps you could show us where he was out on his feet? Because this is just BS.

WTF are you talking about? He is stopping the swing by his finger.

He destroyed Tony's armor via TK but that's not what he did to Thor.



I'm not sure since when your misinterpretations became law.

Get off your imaginary high horse. At this point you're simply crying.



Knock down and stalemated Namor? His suckershot was totally ignored.

Rachel wasn't using Phoenix.

His charged hammer strike from behind was no sold you goof. Read the comic again.

He knocked it down on a planet nearby.

He got oneshotted. Is there anything fancy about that? Captain Britain did better than that.

Going by how they took and brushed aside Thor's attacks, in durability yes they are.

Not a hard thing to understand.

The number of times Stark's specifically prepped armors get trashed is too high for me to take that seriously.



For the force?

Not in durability. Show me Thor even making a dent in Phoenix Five.

Thor should've ended the whole event by himself if he can KO the entire force by himself.

But then how could everyone beat the shit out of him for the entire event?

I'd like to know why you're crying foul at everything?

Any feat I'll post is disregarded anyway. Just like in the previous posts.

Gladiator has several low showings. None worse than Thor though.

I like how everything which doesn't benefits Thor is a low showing.

Herc is Thor's equal. Does that makes Thor stronger than Gladiator?

GTFO.

laughing out loud

Like I said, everything is a low showing for you.

Superman overpowers the kryptonians all the time. Thor doesn't.

Again crying. Good, good.

laughing out loud

You are like Carver lite at this point.

I said Hyperion is equal to Thor as per his own words.

The new Hyperion's strength feats trump Thor's entire history. Doesn't means he is stronger.

You're too fixated on the number of feats to know that only relative showings matter in these scenarios.

Thor has never been shown stronger than Hyperion. Even when going all out he only managed to knock him down with a hammer shot.

In the same issue, Thor said Hyperion hits Harder than Mangog.

Now that's a hyperbole.

Yeah, you're simply being an ostrich.

Have fun with apologies though. I always get a real laugh at how much you apologize in behalf of Thor.

crylaugh

The Sorrow
Where was it stated Thor ko'd the Phoenix Force? From what I remember from AvX it damn near killed Thor.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
WWH
King Hyperion
Hyperion (616) from Thor
Thor
Hercules
Gladiator

I would Assume

WWH (Was Much Stronger Than Hercules )
King Hyperion (Stronger Than Hyperion)
Hyperion (Stronger Than Thor)= Gladiator
Thor=Hercules

Am I correct?

Can WWH take on Two Hyperions?
and CAN King Hyperion Kill Gladiator?
Is Gladiator stronger than Herculese?

Where would you put Superman? King Hyperion Level? Or Below? Cause Superman was stronger than Thor by a notch

and What about Wonder Woman? is Wonder Woman Stronger than Thor?

Ridiculousness of the op aside all pretty much equal

HulkIsHulk
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Where was it stated Thor ko'd the Phoenix Force? From what I remember from AvX it damn near killed Thor.
A writer or editor stated that IRRC

As on this, could you guys explain what this was about. This too shows Thor taking on the Phoenix


where are these from
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3192244-phoenix+force+vs+thor+%28prep%29+1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3192245-phoenix+force+vs+thor+%28prep%29+2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3192247-phoenix+force+vs+thor+%28prep%29+3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3192248-phoenix+force+vs+thor+%28prep%29+4.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3192249-phoenix+force+vs+thor+%28prep%29+5.jpg

Pretty sure it's this:
http://marvel.com/comics/issue/40410/avengers_2010_26

HulkIsHulk
My list
WWH
Thor=Herc=King Hyperion
Gladiator>classic Hyperion (though they are of the same level)

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Perhaps you could show us where he was out on his feet? Because this is just BS.

WTF are you talking about? He is stopping the swing by his finger.

He destroyed Tony's armor via TK but that's not what he did to Thor.
Lol.. It's right there on your own scan. Gladiator was basically a non responsive punching bag after the massive blow PClossus gave him. His face was already disfigured and they kept beating him mercilessly after without a hint of getting back up.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068988/DXI5z.jpg.html

facepalm
Hell the close up panel even shows PClops forcibly stopped the swing even before making contact. Jesus Christ the denial here is too much. There's not even a sound effect for making contact with your claim of PClops's pinky stopping the swing.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125228/4617026-5665528036-24177.jpg

He stopped IM and Thor with TK. Period end of story. Any other description is flat out denial of proof.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I'm not sure since when your misinterpretations became law.

Get off your imaginary high horse. At this point you're simply crying.

Abhi. You used a cropped scan that described what that panel was about. It was describing Cap's statement to Spidey that Thor was captured during a battle that involved multiple Avengers. You claiming he got one shotted is pure speculation because it was never fully shown how the fight went down. Have some common sense.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Knock down and stalemated Namor? His suckershot was totally ignored.

Rachel wasn't using Phoenix.

His charged hammer strike from behind was no sold you goof. Read the comic again.
Read Avengers #29 AvX. The point was he battled PNamor and Rachel for much of the comic. And did I say Rachel was had amp from the Phoenix?

Again read the comic. He drew blood in the same comic. You keep spouting things that are incorrect. "Gladz made Pclops bleed." "Thing are blood from PNamor, but Thor didn't." Smh... Seriously why am I even entertaining these points of yours when it is thrown out there by you just to run away from the main issue?

Originally posted by abhilegend

He knocked it down on a planet nearby.

He got oneshotted. Is there anything fancy about that? Captain Britain did better than that.

Lol. Way to lowball feats. He hit with enough force to punt it multiple planetary distances and knocked it out in the process.

Britain did better?
lol1

Originally posted by abhilegend

Going by how they took and brushed aside Thor's attacks, in durability yes they are.

Not a hard thing to understand.
You read it here first folks. 1/5 of the PF is greater than all of the PF.
hysterical

Originally posted by abhilegend

The number of times Stark's specifically prepped armors get trashed is too high for me to take that seriously.

Are u serious? Do you know how effective super geniuses are with PREP? Hell it served it's purpose and furthered the story. How do you think the P5 were created?

Originally posted by abhilegend

For the force?

Not in durability. Show me Thor even making a dent in Phoenix Five.

Thor should've ended the whole event by himself if he can KO the entire force by himself.

But then how could everyone beat the shit out of him for the entire event?
Xorn had the power source of a white sun. He's not lightweight. It's not hard to understand.

Dent? I just finished telling you that he not only smashed PEmma's DIAMOND FORM to pieces, he punted it out of earth! Her regular diamond form alone is strong as hell. Seriously are you purposely ignoring posts?

Why would he need to end the whole event by himself? It's a massive team cooperation and he wasn't even the central figure. He was more tertiary if anything. Do you know how boring it would have been if he went and destroyed the PF by himself?


Originally posted by abhilegend

I'd like to know why you're crying foul at everything?

Any feat I'll post is disregarded anyway. Just like in the previous posts.
You are posting feats that doesn't even key in on the main subject. Not only are you doing this, your off the wall interpretations are so ridiculous way off that you can't even be taken seriously. Plus you are adding low showings to boot. How dumb is that?


Originally posted by abhilegend

Gladiator has several low showings. None worse than Thor though.

I like how everything which doesn't benefits Thor is a low showing.

Herc is Thor's equal. Does that makes Thor stronger than Gladiator?

GTFO.
And yet Thor's average absolutely blows Gladiator's out of the water.

No. You brought up low showings. Why don't you focus on Gladiator's strength feats instead of continuing with smokescreens.

Herc being portrayed as Thor's equal(though imo Thor has a slightly better history) does not have anything to do with Gladiator's strength. Stop with these questions.


Originally posted by abhilegend

laughing out loud

Like I said, everything is a low showing for you.

Superman overpowers the kryptonians all the time. Thor doesn't.

Again crying. Good, good.

laughing out loud

You are like Carver lite at this point.
Umm no. You brought up a low showing which I called out. Notice you're the only one who did so.

Lol... Care to prove Masterson is Thor's equal? You know how that will end.

No not crying. Calling you out on your bullshiet.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I said Hyperion is equal to Thor as per his own words.

The new Hyperion's strength feats trump Thor's entire history. Doesn't means he is stronger.

You're too fixated on the number of feats to know that only relative showings matter in these scenarios.

Thor has never been shown stronger than Hyperion. Even when going all out he only managed to knock him down with a hammer shot.

In the same issue, Thor said Hyperion hits Harder than Mangog.

Now that's a hyperbole.
And I'm simply saying not by feats which you continue to run from.

I actually do have current Hyperion a slight notch above Thor. He is a peer and is not far and away stronger.

Fixated? This coming from a guy who continuously touts a certain someone's feat history? With how many times you have shown how much of a hypocrite you are in this thread, it's funny how you are in any form of disagreement at all. Keep contradicting yourself.

More reading incomprehension. He never stated that he hits harder than Mangog. He was remarking on Hype's strength by claiming that how rarely Mjolnir gets knocked away from him whether it be someone as strong as Mangog or the "merest mortal". Wow fail... Just wow.


Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, you're simply being an ostrich.

Have fun with apologies though. I always get a real laugh at how much you apologize in behalf of Thor.

crylaugh
Again nothing. Concession accepted. thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol.. It's right there on your own scan. Gladiator was basically a non responsive punching bag after the massive blow PClossus gave him. His face was already disfigured and they kept beating him mercilessly after without a hint of getting back up.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068988/DXI5z.jpg.html


Seriously? Here Gladiator is trying to punch them.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068989/82Eqg.jpg.html

You're really the worst. But what did I expect from you anyway?

Hahaha, the sheer idiocy and desperation is palpable here.

He is stopping the hammer by his finger. Claiming that there is no sound effect to denote it a TK feat is like h1a8 level idiocy.

Damn, you're dumb.

That's just straight BS.

Nice tears though.

It's a splash page you goof. That's the only scene of the fight.

To claim that there was a longer fight is sheer idiocy. You're obviously making new records of it.

He got beat up by Rachel and Namor. There was no fight per say. That's it.

Did you read the same comic or the Bizarro version? Namor straight up no sold a suckershot from Thor.

Yeah, you're just BSing. Should I expect it for 20 pages more before you concede?

That's just repeating what you said. Way to go.

Yes, he didn't got oneshotted.

In durability as per the comics? Certainly.

I'd like to see why Thor wasn't even able to affect Phoenix Five.

Name one "buster" armor other than Phoenix buster that actually worked.

That's nice. He still killed PF with a planetary stroke. Keep running from it.

Her diamond form wasn't that durable. How did he fare against Namor or Cyclops or Colossus? Or even Mar-vell?

Heck an arrow from Hawkeye pierced her skin.

Emma flat out humiliated him and told he hits like a girl.

But as you're claiming that he was capable of beating PF by himself, why didn't he just oneshots every Phoenix Five user?

Again with crying? Do I look like who gives a shit about what you think is low showings or what you think about me?

You're dumber than I thought.

In your dreams perhaps.

The only thing that matters is relative performance.

He, even Hercules isn't equal to Thor in your opinion.

Is anyone equal to Thor in strength IYO? Because your version of Thor doesn't exists.

Yes, Masterson being equal to him.

Seems too much like crying.

Feats rarely matter into these contests of strength.

He should be millions of times stronger by feats.



I only go by relative performance.

When you catch me going by space cheese, call me.

Haha, oh the idiocy. Thor flat out says even with Mangog it rarely happens. What do you think the statement means?

Haha, I think it will go for twenty pages more.

The last word which you crave? Not going to happen.

HulkIsHulk
Guys a little help with my scans
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
A writer or editor stated that IRRC

As on this, could you guys explain what this was about. This too shows Thor taking on the Phoenix

Pretty sure it's this:
http://marvel.com/comics/issue/40410/avengers_2010_26

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously? Here Gladiator is trying to punch them.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068989/82Eqg.jpg.html

You're really the worst. But what did I expect from you anyway?
facepalm
Dude. PClossus is holding him up through his cape. He's barely even conscious if at all. Throwing a punch? Lol...

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha, the sheer idiocy and desperation is palpable here.

He is stopping the hammer by his finger. Claiming that there is no sound effect to denote it a TK feat is like h1a8 level idiocy.

Damn, you're dumb.
Lol.. Do you know how bad you would lose if a poll was taken? You continue to dig yourself a deeper hole.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's just straight BS.

Nice tears though.

It's a splash page you goof. That's the only scene of the fight.

To claim that there was a longer fight is sheer idiocy. You're obviously making new records of it.
Again your reading incomprehension and or outright denial tactics knows no bounds. So your proof is one panel of a fight that was not even fully shown. The only other thing associated was Cap's conversation with Spidey alluding to the common sense reasoning of a larger fight that involved multiple characters. And you used a cropped scan to make mayters worse. Smh... So lemme ask you. Did Blue Marvel one shot Pagan in my comparative example?


Originally posted by abhilegend

He got beat up by Rachel and Namor. There was no fight per say. That's it.

Did you read the same comic or the Bizarro version? Namor straight up no sold a suckershot from Thor.

Yeah, you're just BSing. Should I expect it for 20 pages more before you concede?
Not going to waste my time posting. You've already shown yourself to misinterpret, lie, and deny on panel proof.

And yes. He drew blood from PNamor in the book Rulk and Thing did. Look it up.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's just repeating what you said. Way to go.

Yes, he didn't got oneshotted.
Yes. Until you're no longer butthurt about it.

Lol... Claiming that Brian performed better is just about as dumb as one can get. Who was the only one who kept going t the Phoenix?
Hell in the space team's final gambit, Thor was the only one left which led to a feat that is a source of butthurt for you.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11871948/AVX-Zone_005.jpg.html

Originally posted by abhilegend


In durability as per the comics? Certainly.

I'd like to see why Thor wasn't even able to affect Phoenix Five.

Name one "buster" armor other than Phoenix buster that actually worked.
Nothing about knocking out the PF and sending it planetary distances isn't really about durability. I'm simply highlighting Thor's strength and power as compared to the best showing of Gladz in the same story. You are muddying the waters here because you are quite frankly stuck in a corner you made for yourself.

Lol.. Affect the P5? He smashed one of their bodies into a million pieces and punted out of the earth for crying out loud. Stop with these irrelevant questions.

I'm not going into another tangent with this ridiculous question. Accept the fact that Tony used a PREPPED weapon that splintered the PF, bit ultimately failed its purpose.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's nice. He still killed PF with a planetary stroke. Keep running from it.
He killed the host, not the Phoenix. You can't really kill this entity.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Her diamond form wasn't that durable. How did he fare against Namor or Cyclops or Colossus? Or even Mar-vell?

Heck an arrow from Hawkeye pierced her skin.

Emma flat out humiliated him and told he hits like a girl.
Lol... Now her diamond form backed by the PF is not durable? A part of her power set that alone w/o the PF has great feats of its own. Jesus... If your boy did that on panel you would be wanking it nonstop.

Yes Emma defeated him after reforming from a bazillion pieces. What's your point?

Originally posted by abhilegend

But as you're claiming that he was capable of beating PF by himself, why didn't he just oneshots every Phoenix Five user?
Stop putting words into my mouth. I never said he can beat the Phoenix by himself. He had a feat of briefly knocking it out. That's all.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Again with crying? Do I look like who gives a shit about what you think is low showings or what you think about me?

You're dumber than I thought.
Apparently you do or else you would not continue to post. I was merely pointing out your MO which is pretty well known in these boards.

Originally posted by abhilegend

In your dreams perhaps.
Gladiator by feats and regular portrayal is a peer, but overall just doesn't quite match Thor's. It's not that hard to understand.

Originally posted by abhilegend

The only thing that matters is relative performance.

He, even Hercules isn't equal to Thor in your opinion.

Is anyone equal to Thor in strength IYO? Because your version of Thor doesn't exists.
laughing out loud Relative performance? This coming from a guy who gets a tittie attack when CM or other high end strong men are called Supe's equals when relative performance or statements are brought up. H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E. I take all things into account.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, Masterson being equal to him.

Seems too much like crying.

Feats rarely matter into these contests of strength.

He should be millions of times stronger by feats.
Not by overall feats. He simply isn't.

Again just calling u out on your bs laden comebacks.

Now feats don't matter? Abhi they are the platform for which arguments stand on.

No he wouldn't when you take everything into account. Hype is a peer.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I only go by relative performance.

When you catch me going by space cheese, call me.
Somebody save this. This is gold right here.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, oh the idiocy. Thor flat out says even with Mangog it rarely happens. What do you think the statement means?

Haha, I think it will go for twenty pages more.
Wow. See this is proof that you have an inability to understand scans. Here's what he said after Hype threw a car at him causing him to drop Mjolnir.
Thor - "So mighty is the blow struck by this Hyperion that even mine awesome uru mallet be knocked from mine hand. Something which both rarely happened, whether my foe were Mangog or the merest mortal."
El oh el. laughing out loud
This is not a declarative statement from Thor that Hype is stronger than Mangog. He is merely stating that it's rare for someone to dislodge his hammer from him even when he goes against extremely powerful beings like Mangog. Why did you even go down this route when you know for a fact that Mangog is stronger than Hyperion? Oh Abhi...

Originally posted by abhilegend

The last word which you crave? Not going to happen.
As long as you keep getting exposed I don't mind. thumb up

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by h1a8
Glads and Thor are near physical peers when Thor has Mjolnir. Without Mjolnir Glads is physically superior.
Him bashing a planet to pieces with his bare hands is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise. Glads going toe to toe with Cyke is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise. So Gladiator is Stronger

TethAdamTheRock
What I have been trying to tell you from the very beginning

TethAdamTheRock
Gladiator and Hyperion are More of a Physical peer to Superman Than Thor

Warrior Madness
WWHulk (by far)
King Hyperion
Hyperion=Gladiator
Hercules
Thor

And, no, Thor doesn't have feats to put him in the class of Gladiator and Hyperion at all. Most of his feats come from the hammer; without it, he's not that impressive.

TethAdamTheRock
Originally posted by Warrior Madness
WWHulk (by far)
King Hyperion
Hyperion=Gladiator
Hercules
Thor

And, no, Thor doesn't have feats to put him in the class of Gladiator and Hyperion at all. Most of his feats come from the hammer; without it, he's not that impressive. This is (Exactly What I thought.

celeyhyga17
Lol at the narrow minded line of thinking here.

carver9
Thor doesn't get the love he deserves.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
Thor doesn't get the love he deserves.
Doesn't really matter whether he gets love or not. It's the faulty line of reasoning used to completely dismiss his strength when Mjolnir is involved.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
http://i.imgur.com/VHAop5b.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
facepalm
Dude. PClossus is holding him up through his cape. He's barely even conscious if at all. Throwing a punch? Lol...


Is this the same way through which Cyclops I'd using TK to stop Thor?

Color me amused.

That's your big threat? As if I care about polls.

You made the assertion that it was a lengthy fight.

Show it then. Don't go all bitching on me if I call on your stupidity.

More crying.

Good, good.

And what about the suckershot?

Just nonsense.

And got oneshotted every time? Thor.

Sure.

Haha, next you'll tell me Spidey was more powerful than Thor because he lasted more than one attack from Colossus and Magik and even survived the blast which koed both of them.

Oh you.

That's the biggest ironic post I've ever seen.

Where did Gladiator fought PF on its true form?

Yes, the least durable one who beat the shit out of him one page later.

The rest treated him like an insect.

Why would I accept anything without reason or logic? I'm not you idiot.

The entity was fractured in a billion pieces and killed. Read Phoenix Endsong.

Yes, it was simply diamond.

Superman smashed Soulfire Darkseid in half. He doesn't needs these puny feats.

That he was an insect to her? She literally says he hits like a girl.

That's not beating PF? Why did he never koed any Phoenix Five?

Of course I don't.

This is just for hilarity and seeing apologies from you for Thor.

Not even remotely true. Thor doesn't matches Gladiator on average in strength.

Undeniable truth.

Only Cap has ever been called Superman's equal in strength and there is enough contradiction in that too.

Superman also had dynamic strength, so it's not that clear in his case. Thor isn't superman and never will be.

For You nobody is. Fortunately your opinion is worth shit, so it all evens out.

Not when the relative performance is in the picture.



Nope, exact equal as per Thor.

Show me where he is shown weaker than Thor.



It's better than your every argument.

So another excuse?

laughing out loud

Why was that statement even made if it's for nothing?

Do you know how to read?

This is just comedy gold. Twenty more pages, here we come.

Genii96
Um, what exactly IS the argument here?

carver9
How strong Thor is.

Genii96
Isn't he a peer of guys like glads,hype etc?

StiltmanFTW
While in Warrior Madness state, I dare say he's almost as strong as Black Cat.

carver9
Originally posted by Genii96
Isn't he a peer of guys like glads,hype etc?

I think he is, the argument is, he isn't.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
I think he is

You think he's as strong as Black Cat? Whoa, bro. I said ALMOST. Let's not go crazy here.

Bolo Yueng
The best bit is the Aquarian and the Silver Surfer's pomposity.

leonidas
hulk--though where the idea he is WAY stronger than herc comes from i have no idea....even hulk admitted later herc was one of only a couple beings on the planet who had a chance to stop him.

the differences among the others is negligible. the idea that king hyperion is beyond the others is also speculation. 616 hype has the best feat by far. beating alternate versions of thor or hulk doesn't really mean anything. he also told the others that the other hyperions who fought him were both MAN enough to take him, but not MEAN enough. he was crazy and fought to kill--that doesn't make him stronger. namora snapped his neck after all, though he did heal. his healing was more impressive than his strength imo.

glads=hyperions (as was proven in their fight) thor=herc as has been shown many many times, and there is no reason to suppose glads or hype are at all greater than thor or herc. all of them are ridiculously close and anyone trying to justify one over the other is likely simply biased for, or against, one of the others.

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