Phantom Stranger Vs Franklin Richards

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riv6672
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60473/1407585-79034_29768_phantom_stranger_large.jpg

No prep.
No BFR.

http://www.mundomarvel.com/imgs/equipos/biografia/future_fundation_03.jpg

Flyattractor
Are there many cases where PS is allowed to actually cut loose with his powers?

ghostman
franklin no contest, dude took down a celestial with a punch and tanked attacks from them, created a pocket universe, raped mephisto, created a self sustaining pocket reality in a void of nothingness. repaired a dying star, turned a celestials energy blasts into flowers also expelled them from his mind when they attacked him mentally, he even has a pocket reality in his ****ing closet. laughing

riv6672
But where's his cool hat? And cape?

Otherwise, very impressive for FR.

Galan007
Franklin won't be able to kill PS, but as demonstrated by Spectre: transmuting him into a non-threatening form(like a rat) constitutes a 'defeat'.... Hard to say if Frank has the chops to do that, however. mmm

riv6672
Neat.
Can Franklin do it?
What i mean is, if thats what the Spectre had to do, can FR physically affect a being that Spectre had to do that to?

Galan007
Dunno. Spectre did so by way of the most uber magics this side of the 5th Dimension. It'd be hard/impossible to directly compare Franklin's reality-based cosmic powers to Spectre's high-end magical powers. These are two completely different facets, after all... /shrug

zopzop
Just because Spectre did it doesn't mean Franklin can. Do people have any idea how powerful Spectre is when he's sufficiently motivated?

He could have stopped the Original Crisis, he could have stopped GEB, Multiversal Hal/Parallax said the Spectre-Force dwarfed his power, etc...

I'm actually going with PS here.

riv6672
Originally posted by Galan007
Dunno. Spectre did so by way of the most uber magics this side of the 5th Dimension. It'd be hard/impossible to directly compare Franklin's reality-based cosmic powers to Spectre's high-end magical powers. These are two completely different facets, after all... /shrug

Originally posted by zopzop
Just because Spectre did it doesn't mean Franklin can.

Yeah, thats what i was wondering/why i asked. Thanks.

Mindset
Originally posted by zopzop
Just because Spectre did it doesn't mean Franklin can. Do people have any idea how powerful Spectre is when he's sufficiently motivated?

He could have stopped the Original Crisis, he could have stopped GEB, Multiversal Hal/Parallax said the Spectre-Force dwarfed his power, etc...

I'm actually going with PS here. FR isn't fighting Spectre though.

What has PS done aside from getting knocked out by a judo chop and being turned into a mouse?

zopzop
Originally posted by Mindset
FR isn't fighting Spectre though.

What has PS done aside from getting knocked out by a judo chop and being turned into a mouse?
He was holding his own vs the Spectre till the Presence jumped in and stopped the fight so they wouldn't wreck creation or something.

EDIT
Here's the scan :
http://s32.postimg.org/mkjw0nev5/latest_cb_20150123184426_path_prefix_ru.jpg

riv6672
Originally posted by Mindset
FR isn't fighting Spectre though.

What has PS done aside from getting knocked out by a judo chop and being turned into a mouse?

Well, here's a small respect thread for DCnu PS.

https://m.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/31ho6o/respect_phantom_stranger_n52/

Just wanted to clarify...i dont have a favorite in this fight. My earler mouse question was idle curiosity and hoping to start a conversation.

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