Magneto VS Green Lantern John Stewart

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riv6672
Pretty sure Stewart will shoot that skull right out of Magneto's hand.
His prize?
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Stewart would also win the majority in a fight, imo.

Cogito
Not sure John can break Mag's shields. Also not sure Mags can do shit to John.

IOW, this is a test of willpower/endurance, and John should win out in the end.

riv6672
I agree with that last part!

Genii96
Magnus can just reverse his blood flow,

StiltmanFTW
Erik kills him and the entire GL corps.

leonidas
doc polaris has had success against lanterns, why wouldn't mags.....?

riv6672
Because A then B then C.

CosmicComet
I think GL's have faster reflexes.

That and no damn dirty ass mutie deserves to win in any thread. Especially a geriatric one.

StiltmanFTW
Mags' superhuman reaction time was stated on panel... and he grabbed speeding Northstar by his throat stick out tongue

And yes, he may be old as f*ck, but at least he's white... big grin

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Digi
This may be a bad matchup for John. He's got more raw power than Magneto, but I think he's more of a glass cannon given the power set he's up against. Not 10/10, of course, for either. I'd lean slightly toward Mags, maybe 6 or 7/10.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That and no damn dirty ass mutie deserves to win in any thread. Especially a geriatric one.

Then again, this logic is unassailable. GL 13/10

CosmicComet
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Mags' superhuman reaction time was stated on panel... and he grabbed speeding Northstar by his throat stick out tongue

I know, I'm saying GLs should have better reaction feats than that, iirc.

But...




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It appears you've caught me in a stalemate.

riv6672
And a Klan meeting. You two racist shits have a nice night.

abhilegend
Originally posted by leonidas
doc polaris has had success against lanterns, why wouldn't mags.....?
Because Polaris was amped and otherwise every GL worth his salt has kicked his ass? Kyle has beaten him in one page before when he got serious.

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Originally posted by Digi
This may be a bad matchup for John. He's got more raw power than Magneto, but I think he's more of a glass cannon given the power set he's up against. Not 10/10, of course, for either. I'd lean slightly toward Mags, maybe 6 or 7/10.



Then again, this logic is unassailable. GL 13/10
Not really. One showing against an amped Polaris by Kyle doesn't negates decades of history.

Flyattractor
Not the Fake News Johnny makes Mags dump a magnetic core in his Purple man Diaper.

TheHulk
You know what? I have faith my man Mags can take a 6/10. If not then i guess Stewart 7/10.

leonidas
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Polaris was amped and otherwise every GL worth his salt has kicked his ass? Kyle has beaten him in one page before when he got serious.

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Not really. One showing against an amped Polaris by Kyle doesn't negates decades of history.

lol

no, not really.... polaris has had kyle slapping himself at one point that i recall. the ring can def be affected by magnetics (or was able to be at one point) and mags>polaris anyway. you think that little blast that took out polaris above would even make mags flinch? his shields, ya know?

not to mention this is john and not kyle, sooo....there's all that i guess.

abhilegend
Originally posted by leonidas
lol

no, not really.... polaris has had kyle slapping himself at one point that i recall.

Yeah, amped Polaris.

Based on? Not to mention Polaris was heavily amped at that point.

Which he almost never uses in character?

Yeah, that's why we are transferring feats from an amped Polaris to Magneto.

Right.

leonidas
can the ring be affected by magnetic power? whether he was amped or not doesn't affect whether the ring is metallic......

abhilegend
Originally posted by leonidas
can the ring be affected by magnetic power? whether he was amped or not doesn't affect whether the ring is metallic......
It has never been controlled to the degree other than in that JLA issue. It's an odd showing to say in the least.

DarkSaint85
Personally I reckon Polaris was controlling the gsuntlets, rather than Kyles ring.

Cogito
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Polaris was amped and otherwise every GL worth his salt has kicked his ass? Kyle has beaten him in one page before when he got serious.

IIRC this was Kyle pretty shortly after getting his ring, too

leonidas
didn't pre-crisis polaris also steal a lantern ring? pretty sure old school polaris gave hal a couple good runs for his money. just saying, if it can be controlled, john would be in trouble. mags has also controlled exotic energy as well--see proteus. could he affect the gl energy? not sure, but it's possible, at least to some degree.

i think this is FAR from an easy match to call. even if he can't control the ring or the energy, he has plenty of raw power. more than enough to make john sweat this one.

DarkSaint85
Kyle's ring was meant to be different from every other GL ring, too.

Also:

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Doesn't say Polaris is controlling the ring.

Estacado
Leo center your sig its annoying ma eyes....uhuh

StiltmanFTW
You need to teach him basic bb-codes first!

Just kidding. The real reason it's not centered is because he wants to be different from us...

Let's just report him to Raz, in seven years he'll be banned thumb up

psycho gundam
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Kyle's ring was meant to be different from every other GL ring, too.


Doesn't say Polaris is controlling the ring. What's his costume made of and why did he use the same hand his ring is on to hit him with + referencing said "shiny" ring?

StiltmanFTW
Teach that little Asian a lesson, psycho thumb up

leonidas
Originally posted by psycho gundam
What's his costume made of and why did he use the same hand his ring is on to hit him with + referencing said "shiny" ring?

lol what i was thinking.... angle seems funny for it to be the gauntlet being controlled, but maybe it's me.

i've seen hal's ring controlled:

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and it seems kyle's was as well (amping wouldn't matter--it metallic or it's not).

leonidas
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You need to teach him basic bb-codes first!

Just kidding. The real reason it's not centered is because he wants to be different from us...

Let's just report him to Raz, in seven years he'll be banned thumb up

pfft. (what's bb-codes...?) embarrasment

StiltmanFTW
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DarkSaint85
bb = bareback.

Tread carefully, leo.

CosmicComet
You in rough territory here, leo.

Estacado
Originally posted by leonidas
pfft. (what's bb-codes...?) embarrasment
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StiltmanFTW
laughing

evil face

leonidas
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Zack M
Here is some of his best feats from a respect thread:



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Zack M
Uprgraded JS fighting Fernus and the only one to deal damage.

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Digi
^^ No one's arguing that John doesn't have the necessary power. He definitely has more overall power than Magneto. This is entirely a matchup discussion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, amped Polaris.

That's basically what Magneto is, yeah?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Which he almost never uses in character?

How often are we talking? He's used it plenty of times. More than enough to consider it a viable defense in this fight. One that a GL wouldn't be able to easily get through.

Surtur
This is a quick draw, whoever reacts first wins.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Surtur
This is a quick draw, whoever reacts first wins.

Both can erect pretty durable forcefields.

Raisen
quit talking dirty

Surtur
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Both can erect pretty durable forcefields.

If one can out react the other then they could get an attack off before they get up a forcefield. Also if Magneto can truly manipulate the ring then a forcefield shouldn't do much.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Raisen
quit talking dirty

big grin

Originally posted by Surtur
If one can out react the other then they could get an attack off before they get up a forcefield. Also if Magneto can truly manipulate the ring then a forcefield shouldn't do much.

I forgot kmc rules about forcefields, but there's still that 0.5km starting distance rule, which gives them both enough time to start with shields...

Surtur
If Magneto has superhuman reaction time like you have said then him putting up a forcefield would be a silly first move.

StiltmanFTW
He can multitask, unlike black people.

haw-som

Surtur
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He can multitask, unlike black people.

haw-som

Truth.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Digi




That's basically what Magneto is, yeah?


No. Magneto doesn't has the power to beat entire Justice League.

Let's just say that he has used it around half a dozen times in last decade. Thor has used godblast more than that.

Cogito
GL Rings are made out of pure willpower nowawdays. Pretty sure that's not magnetic erm

leonidas
see, now that is something new. if that is true and this is nu john then that could change things, though like i said, mags could still def make him work for it. then we'd have to look at feats for nu john.....

Digi
Originally posted by abhilegend
Let's just say that he has used it around half a dozen times in last decade. Thor has used godblast more than that.

What's the number you need, though? Half a dozen times in a decade is more than enough for us to say "yeah, he can do this" and not really have to question it. We use way less substantiated powers on the forums all the time, for pretty much any regular character.

I also object to discounting older feats. So long as it remains in canon, why doesn't it count? I do realize portrayals change over time sometimes, but especially if he's still doing it, there's no reason a feat from, say, 1994 isn't valid.

Long story short, Magneto's shields are obviously in play. They might not ensure a win, but they'd make him a tough out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. Magneto doesn't has the power to beat entire Justice League.

Oh, agreed. But if the ring's metal...

Genii96
Shields for magnus is a common thing,and very much in character,and gl forcefields may not help against magnus controlling the iron in his blood

abhilegend
Originally posted by Digi
What's the number you need, though? Half a dozen times in a decade is more than enough for us to say "yeah, he can do this" and not really have to question it. We use way less substantiated powers on the forums all the time, for pretty much any regular character.


Like? Save Flash and Silver Surfer rarely any character is given that advantage. But for both apparently, what comic show are meaningless.

Even in those instances Magneto used the field for a very short amount of time. Like in AVX he used the shield against repulsors of Tony for one panel and then dropped it to go h2h with him.

To think as Magneto will simply turtle up in his shield and nobody can do anything to him is pretty OOC for Magneto.

Well, they are. They rarely factor in modern depictions of the comic. Think it like WWE. Writers don't know these miniscule details these days. The time for a rigid continuity is long past.

I'd like to see a single fight for Magneto where he simply hid in his shields for entire fight.

Like one showing.

Well, it's good that its not.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Genii96
Shields for magnus is a common thing,and very much in character,and gl forcefields may not help against magnus controlling the iron in his blood

Seeing as how thier rings protect them when flying around in the vacuum of space and when also going right up to suns and stars I think it can be safely said that yes they can PROTECT them from Maggy doing the Blood trick.

Modern Gl's are just way to versitle for the poor old Man with the Power of the Purple Panties!

nwg202
GL more often than not..

Surtur
I likewise don't understand why some don't want to allow certain powers to be used just because they do not do it often. For me this should only apply if the character has been around for a long time and only has a single instance of using the power.

For example post crisis Superman one time busted out "Soul Vision" to look at Superboys soul to tell if he was like..evil? Since he was cloned partially from Lex Luthor's DNA so obviously Superboys understanding of how genes work is quite limited, but that isn't the point. I wouldn't grant Superman the use of Soul Vision, not unless he did it more then once.

It is the same with that Torquasm-Vo shit that I think he used in one story.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like in AVX he used the shield against repulsors of Tony for one panel and then dropped it to go h2h with him.

He has the skintight field, too.

leonidas
he used t-vo in several stories tbf....

zopzop
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Both can erect pretty durable forcefields. Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He has the skintight field, too.
Damn Stilt, take a cold shower? We see where your mind is. stick out tongue

As to the thread, I agree with Leo.
Originally posted by leonidas
see, now that is something new. if that is true and this is nu john then that could change things, though like i said, mags could still def make him work for it. then we'd have to look at feats for nu john.....

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by zopzop
Damn Stilt, take a cold shower? We see where your mind is. stick out tongue

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Surtur
Originally posted by leonidas
he used t-vo in several stories tbf....

Damn, well I guess that power would be legit for post crisis Supes.

DarkSaint85
Well, Wally has only used the Infinite Mass Punch once, maaaybe twice or three times. That's it.

Surtur
If he's used it 3 times I'd say that is sufficient. Plus the thing about that is..it is not really an extra power right? It's just Flash hitting you at FTL speeds.

nwg202
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, Wally has only used the Infinite Mass Punch once, maaaybe twice or three times. That's it.

When has Wally used the IMP? I only know of the white martian fight.

DarkSaint85
Hence the maaaaybe. He has increased his mass whilst running really fast, although he did not explicitly use it in a punch.

Delta1938
Originally posted by Surtur
I likewise don't understand why some don't want to allow certain powers to be used just because they do not do it often. For me this should only apply if the character has been around for a long time and only has a single instance of using the power.

For example post crisis Superman one time busted out "Soul Vision" to look at Superboys soul to tell if he was like..evil? Since he was cloned partially from Lex Luthor's DNA so obviously Superboys understanding of how genes work is quite limited, but that isn't the point. I wouldn't grant Superman the use of Soul Vision, not unless he did it more then once.

It is the same with that Torquasm-Vo shit that I think he used in one story.

Before that, he made mention of when he sees animals die, he sees their soul leave IIRC in BIRTHRIGHT. Don't remember exactly how it was stated, but that's where it was first used.

As Leo cited he's used it in several stories. It was actually a fairly major thing on average for a few years, and a big part of a couple storylines.

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