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1. Luke
2. Yoda
3. ???

Revan.

Lolno

And probably Anakin.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Revan.

If we're considering Revan a Jedi, I'm considering HoTlander, and he'll be > Revan come Chapter 16's end.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lolno

And probably Anakin.

Shit, I forgot about Anakin lol.

More powerful sources back Anakin.

No one respects Anakin, that's why he wasn't mentioned. Your move.

Revan, Anakin, and Jacen are probably the top contenders; arguments for Galen or Mace could probably be made also. It's probably too soon to nominate the Outlander, tbh.

I was going to mention HOT actually.

@ILS The quote you posted specifically refers to 32 BBY Mace, though.

The HoT isn't even more powerful than Kenobi.

Originally posted by Nargaroth
@ILS The quote you posted specifically refers to 32 BBY Mace, though. It does? And I suppose that means Anakin and others like Jacen and Galan can be argued above him?

The HoTlander, however...

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
More powerful sources back Anakin. True enough. Just found this kek:
https://youtu.be/mxXiRouSbgM?t=3m58s

Originally posted by ILS
It does? And I suppose that means Anakin and others like Jacen and Galan can be argued above him?

Yup, at least when it comes to Anakin.

Originally posted by ILS
It does? And I suppose that means Anakin and others like Jacen and Galan can be argued above him?

It means he improved for 13 years after already being the 2nd most powerful

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It means he improved for 13 years after already being the 2nd most powerful I considered that, but Anakin has his own accolades. Windu himself was seriously contemplating Anakin vs Yoda.

I'd argue Mace is definitely in the top 7 as of right now. I hesitate to definitively put him above Anakin, Revan, Galen, and Jacen, though.

Originally posted by ILS
I considered that, but Anakin has his own accolades. Windu himself was seriously contemplating Anakin vs Yoda.

Yeah but that's BS, since Yoda then wouldn't have thought Kenobi can beat Anakin, but not Sidious.

Not that I actually think Mace > Anakin, but Anakin being Yoda tier is cancer.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I'd argue Mace is definitely in the top 7 as of right now. I hesitate to definitively put him above Anakin, Revan, Galen, and Jacen, though. Same, sans Revan.

Might as well turn this into a top 10 thread. You guys reckon Cade and Jaina make it into the top 10 along with those mentioned already?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Yeah but that's BS, since Yoda then wouldn't have thought Kenobi can beat Anakin, but not Sidious.

Not that I actually think Mace > Anakin, but Anakin being Yoda tier is cancer. Yeah, I was just illustrating why Anakin is probably stronger than Mace. I actually think the RotS video game nailed how a fight between them should play out.

Originally posted by ILS
I considered that, but Anakin has his own accolades.

This one is also worth mentioning:


-- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

Originally posted by Nargaroth
This one is also worth mentioning:Ayy! I was looking for that last year but couldn't find it again. Though in retrospect I think it's referring to potential.

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Revan
4. Jacen Solo
5. Hero of Tython / Barsen'thor
6. Starkiller
7. Satele Shan
8. Anakin Skywalker
9. Mace Windu
10. Ven Zallow / Kao Cen Darach

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
More powerful sources back Anakin.

Anakin isn't a master.

Originally posted by ILS
Might as well turn this into a top 10 thread. You guys reckon Cade and Jaina make it into the top 10 along with those mentioned already?

Depends how inclusive the list is. I wouldn't consider Galen, Revan, or even Cade a jedi really.

Originally posted by JKBart
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Revan
4. Jacen Solo
5. Hero of Tython / Barsen'thor
6. Starkiller
7. Satele Shan
8. Anakin Skywalker
9. Mace Windu
10. Ven Zallow / Kao Cen Darach an bart timing

Yoda and Revan can be potentially switched. Same with Satele and Starkiller.

Revan's inarguably more powerful than Windu, yeah.

woopsy

banesy

Well, the strongest incarnations of Revan (like post mask Novel Revan) never walked the corridors of the Jedi Temple.

reported

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well, the strongest incarnations of Revan (like post mask Novel Revan) never walked the corridors of the Jedi Temple. brb while I pull a reverse LeGenD (aka a Zoltan):
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Depends how inclusive the list is. I wouldn't consider Galen, Revan, or even Cade a jedi really.

Originally posted by ILS
brb while I pull a reverse LeGenD (aka a Zoltan):

That's the nicest thing anyone ever said to me.

Stfu SOR Revan is clearly a peaceful Jedi Knight

Does Sha'a Gi make the list?

It took me way too long to realize he was a parody of Shaggy Rogers.

Yep. Couldn't you tell by the appearance and his damn name, ****?

It was the pothead paranoia that made it click. You would know all about that with your habit for illegal drugz.

How much you Finna smoke? How many grams, b1tch?

Contenders:

Anakin
Windu
Kyp
Revan
Jaina?

Replace Kyp and Jaina with Galen and Jacen.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
How much you Finna smoke? How many grams, b1tch? 1 is usually enough kek

Ah, you haven't hit the DMB point yet then.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Replace Kyp and Jaina with Galen and Jacen.

Forgot about them. Kyp stays on the list though, as he is > Marek.

So in terms of raw power:

1. Luke
2. Anakin
3. Yoda
4. Kyp
5. Galen

In terms of combatively useful power:

1. Luke
2. Yoda
3. Anakin
4. Kyp
5. Galen/Revan

In terms of overall Force mastery:

1. Luke
2. Yoda
3/4/5. Kyp/Anakin/Revan

IDK where Jacen would fit, or when he stopped being a Jedi.

kek

I mean he used his power in combat to collapse a starship by throwing a black hole into it.

@NewGuy: Yep

Would Ulic be in top 10 or nah.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Would Ulic be in top 10 or nah. As much as it pains me, probably not going by my new scaling method. Though top 20 for sure.

In terms of knowledge:

Luke
Yoda
Odan Urr
Vodo
Revan
Jacen Solo

Not in order.

Anakin or Mace Windu

Galen.

Anakin, yeah. Jacen, Mace and so on are contenders.

Contender for the no. 3 spot:

Windu
Revan Reborn]
Jacen
Anakin
HoT

Not sure about Jaina, and not sure I'd consider Galen a Jedi. Maybe, 'cause he received informal training from Kota

Assuming you're talking about post-16 HoTlander there.

The HoT was up there before KotFE was made. Dude was already > 'Thor, resisting Sel Makor and whooping Doomsday!Vitiate.

Isn't it also stated that SOR Revan is an overwhelming powerhouse that the PC doesn't have a chance against without help?

If Windu is a serious contender I'm going to say Jedi Dooku

Ah, true.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Isn't it also stated that SOR Revan is an overwhelming powerhouse that the PC doesn't have a chance against without help?

Well, I think Revan says that. But, your point?

PC admits it too. Revan being superior to HoT isn't really in question, doe.

No, I mean I recall Ant provided a quote from a Dev saying something along those lines.

Nah, not that it's necessary. The implication is everywhere.

That said, I wager Will of the Forcelander could give even SOR Revan a run for his money.

Prime HoTlander will be more powerful than Revan.

Where the hell is Ant when you need him?

He is dead

Bane killed him.

sieg fail

Originally posted by ILS
Yeah, I was just illustrating why Anakin is probably stronger than Mace. I actually think the RotS video game nailed how a fight between them should play out.


Ehh but that game had Mace fighting gauntlet style. Of course he'd lose to Anakin after fighting the most powerful Dark Lord in history. A fresh Mace would win though.

The correct answer here is Mace or Anakin. I'd lean heavily in favor of Mace the Champion of the Order.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Where the hell is Ant when you need him?

"Revan travels to a very iconic Yavin IV to go to battle and release the actual
Emperor, one we thought who was defeated not long ago. The player is pulled
into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the
history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor."
―Michael Backus (Star Wars: The Old Republic Head Writer)

Spirit Revan also states that while Revan being defeated is possible, the protagonist can't do it alone.

The protagonist doesn't even seem to argue that point, as shown here:

" Revan wants me to succeed , but claims
I can't do it on my own... We'll need our full strength to defeat Revan when
the time comes. Don't do anything to jeopardize that."
―The Protagonist (Star Wars: The Old Republic)

I don't recall Revan Reborn flying back to Coruscant between his fights with Darth Nyriss and Vitiate.

Isn't that quote from 2002 anyway?

Originally posted by Kurk
If Windu is a serious contender I'm going to say Jedi Dooku

Nah.

bane when he as good, before he became a sith

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"Revan travels to a very iconic Yavin IV to go to battle and release the actual
Emperor, one we thought who was defeated not long ago. The player is pulled
into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the
history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor."
―Michael Backus (Star Wars: The Old Republic Head Writer)

Spirit Revan also states that while Revan being defeated is possible, the protagonist can't do it alone.

The protagonist doesn't even seem to argue that point, as shown here:

" Revan wants me to succeed , but claims
I can't do it on my own... We'll need our full strength to defeat Revan when
the time comes. Don't do anything to jeopardize that."
―The Protagonist (Star Wars: The Old Republic)

Those quotes are seriously good for Revan. Kudos

I've no doubt that, as of now, SoR Revan > HoTlander, but I do believe that when the KotFE storyline is over, HoTlander > SoR Revan.

HoTlander will become a Jedi master and walk across the Temple after beating a full powered Valkorion solo, thus solidifying that s/he is < Yoda.

HoTlander isn't even a Jedi, Kek.

Still an enemy of the darkness.

Wrong again.

The Hotlander is totally dicking a Sith tbh.