Magneto vs. General Zod

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carthage
Can Zod break his shields or does he get crushed by metal?

Round. 1: Zod has his armor (Starting distance 50 feet)

Round 2: Zod has no armor (Starting distance 50 feet)

Fight takes place in Metropolis during Man of Steel

cdtm
Did Magneto kill Apocalypse or something?

Zod should kill him.

KingD19
Magneto actually did deliver one of the finishing blows. But I doubt Zod can get through his shields. And there's no way Zod tanks the sheer amount of metal and force Erik can generate.

cdtm
Kryptonians can tank a planet killer beam. You could drop a mountain on Zod, and it should mildly inconvenience him.

KingD19
Lois can tank that beam too.

cdtm
Lois dlc in Injustice = insta sale.

Raisen
zod. too durable

Darth Thor
Originally posted by KingD19
But I doubt Zod can get through his shields.


Originally posted by Raisen
zod. too durable


Magneto vs Kryptonians Should be an interesting and never ending debate.

BruceSkywalker
Lois punked Faora... erik ftw

TheLordofMurder
Magneto as depicted in Age of Apocalypse wins...

The Kryptonians arent invincible and Mags can generate tremendous force with his metals; Zod will take a beating, but will eventually fall...

Darth Thor
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Magneto as depicted in Age of Apocalypse wins...

The Kryptonians arent invincible and Mags can generate tremendous force with his metals; Zod will take a beating, but will eventually fall...


Yes but did Eric show enough force to take down a Kryptonian? And were Eric's shields shown to take the physical force a Krytonian can dish out?


I'd say no to both points, but that said we haven't seen Eric's shields penetrated either.

But it seems to me, kind of like the Hulk gets stronger as he gets madder, we're taking a few assumptions from Comic Book Magneto here regarding his shields.

Arachnid1
Zod heat visions instantly for the win. Not that he needs HV to win.

Time-Immemorial
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes but did Eric show enough force to take down a Kryptonian? And were Eric's shields shown to take the physical force a Krytonian can dish out?


I'd say no to both points, but that said we haven't seen Eric's shields penetrated either.

But it seems to me, kind of like the Hulk gets stronger as he gets madder, we're taking a few assumptions from Comic Book Magneto here regarding his shields.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Zod heat visions instantly for the win. Not that he needs HV to win.


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Im glad we have some rational unbiased people here. I can always count on you two to tell it how it is.

The Ellimist
GG never specified which Zod

Reeves Zod oneshots thumb up

carthage
Originally posted by The Ellimist
GG never specified which Zod

Reeves Zod oneshots thumb up

MOS

NotAllThatEvil
Still one shots.

juggerman
Magneto's shields were never actually tested. Zod should power through them and kill Mags

Darth Thor
^ Well they were tested by Quicksilver and Apocalypse.

juggerman
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Well they were tested by Quicksilver and Apocalypse.

QS kinda leaned against it and then gave up. I don't recall Apoc actually attacking Magneto's shield. He was distracted and getting attacked from all sides

Darth Thor
Originally posted by juggerman
QS kinda leaned against it and then gave up.


Well that's all we saw, but he was sure he couldn't get past it.


Originally posted by juggerman
I don't recall Apoc actually attacking Magneto's shield. He was distracted and getting attacked from all sides


Come think of it, you might be right.

juggerman
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well that's all we saw, but he was sure he couldn't get past it.


QS not being able to get past it doesn't mean Zod wouldn't

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Come think of it, you might be right.

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Darth Thor
Originally posted by juggerman
QS not being able to get past it doesn't mean Zod wouldn't




Of course not. Just saying it has been tested by someone powerful. Just clearly not at a Kryptonian's level.

juggerman
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course not. Just saying it has been tested by someone powerful. Just clearly not at a Kryptonian's level.

The only issue I have it that QS didn't even try to get through. Magneto's shield wasn't tested at all. It could be amazingly powerful or it could be easily overcome. We just don't know

draxx_tOfU
Wasn't QS trying to vibrate through the shield when he put his hands on them, like he did to get Erik out of that prison in DOFP? I might be wrong.

Anyway, Zod wins.

carver9
Magneto stomps.

Time-Immemorial
Proof?

juggerman
Originally posted by carver9
Magneto stomps. Nope

NotAllThatEvil
So magneto's shields seem to be made out of tiny bits of metal. Hows that gonna stop heat vision?

juggerman
It wouldn't

Darth Thor
Originally posted by juggerman
The only issue I have it that QS didn't even try to get through. Magneto's shield wasn't tested at all. It could be amazingly powerful or it could be easily overcome. We just don't know


Well if it was Easily overcome, QS would have overcome it. Let's face it QS has some impressive abilities. So if he's saying he can't get through, then it's not Easily penetrated.

Time-Immemorial
Imo: He was going to try and vibrate it like he did the glass before. Its easy to see why that would not work. Him not being about to penetrate it does not mean he was not under or over powered, it just means he didn't have the powers to get through.

KuRuPT Thanosi
Magneto wins

TheLordofMurder
Too bad the OP didnt make this into a poll...

I would have liked to see what the results were as we have people here that believe in both characters ability to beat the other...

Going foward, I think virtually every vs thread should be a poll; atleast then we have something a bit more concrete than a few peeps debating aimlessly...

juggerman
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well if it was Easily overcome, QS would have overcome it. Let's face it QS has some impressive abilities. So if he's saying he can't get through, then it's not Easily penetrated.

I never said it would be easily overcome but I'm sure you'd agree that QS is nowhere near as strong as Zod. Plus heat vision would likely plow right though it

Darth Thor
^ Probably yeah. The shield doesn't have any feats aside from QS saying he can't get through it.

FrothByte
Zod wins.

carver9
Originally posted by juggerman
Nope

Yes.

Darkstorm Zero
Ummm... Zod would crush Erik under most battlefield conditions. Like, unbelievably so.

Heat vision, combined with high speed, flight, and near Hulk level strength is a potent mix. No matter how much metal Erik tosses at Zod, even if he hit him, there's little to say that Zod can't just evaporate the stuff with HV, before bull rushing Mag's head off at faster than bullet speeds.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ummm... Zod would crush Erik under most battlefield conditions. Like, unbelievably so.

Heat vision, combined with high speed, flight, and near Hulk level strength is a potent mix. No matter how much metal Erik tosses at Zod, even if he hit him, there's little to say that Zod can't just evaporate the stuff with HV, before bull rushing Mag's head off at faster than bullet speeds.

There's also no proof that earthly metals can even harm Zod. So he can get thrown about by Magneto's metal barrage but there's no proof he can actually be taken out by it.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by FrothByte
There's also no proof that earthly metals can even harm Zod. So he can get thrown about by Magneto's metal barrage but there's no proof he can actually be taken out by it.

There is that, although I was specifically thinking of Mags going for a metal cocooning more than anything else. Heat Vision + super strength and speed should lay to rest that notion damn quick tho.

KingD19
I mean, an oil rig knocked Clark out. Magneto can throw a city+ worth of metal at his head.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by KingD19
I mean, an oil rig knocked Clark out. Magneto can throw a city+ worth of metal at his head.

Lowball, and one that has been addressed numerous times before. Clark got feats after that that absolutely wipes this out so I do not know why this gets pointed to, when everything else gets ignored by the detractors...

http://www.troll.me/images/calculations/if-my-calculations-are-correct-thats-bullshit.jpg

KingD19
It's also kinda bullshit to say, "No proof earthly metals can hurt them" Magneto can hurl stuff weighing hundreds of tons with ease and he can hurl all of that at once. It's giving Zod way too much credit for the short time he was shown on screen.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by KingD19
It's also kinda bullshit to say, "No proof earthly metals can hurt them" Magneto can hurl stuff weighing hundreds of tons with ease and he can hurl all of that at once. It's giving Zod way too much credit for the short time he was shown on screen.

Considering that A: Zod was smashing apart thousands of tonnes of debris while going through buildings, and B: surviving orbital drop while being rammed by a satelite... Both feats are dozens to hundreds of times more uber than that oil rig thing you tried to use.

http://www.troll.me/images/indiana-jones/really-really-dude.jpg

abhilegend
Superman can shift tectonic plates. Magneto can do what exactly at that level?

KingD19
According to the movie, rip the metal out of the planet itself causing global destruction with a death toll in the billions.

Darkstorm Zero

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by KingD19
According to the movie, rip the metal out of the planet itself causing global destruction with a death toll in the billions.

See above post. It takes too damn long for Mags to do anything appreciable with it.

KingD19
Well you realize how big the planet actually is? That's why it'd take so long because he's warping the entire Earth all at once.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by KingD19
Well you realize how big the planet actually is? That's why it'd take so long because he's warping the entire Earth all at once.

Then Why do you think Magneto's capacity to do this matters in a vs debate? He's obviously not going to be ripping the planet out from under Zod before Zod rips his head from his neck.

carthage
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman can shift tectonic plates. Magneto can do what exactly at that level?

Well if given enough time he would've slowed every landmass on earth and destroyed every city. He was tearing all of the metal from the earth's core and at least in terms of destructive capabilities he's got Superman beaten for now:

-Xmen Apocalypse

. But yeah I doubt he'd win a fight against him seeing as Superman is probably powerful enough to plow through his shields.

juggerman
Originally posted by carver9
Yes.

Nope

FrothByte
Magneto may have the power to take out Zod, but for him to get something that massive into the air he'll need time. And when dealing with someone like Zod who has a degree of superspeed, Magneto won't have that chance.

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