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No prep.
No BFR.
The guy Storm knows versus the guy Storm blows...away with gale force winds.
Standard versions.

http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/images/c_fill,h_600,w_960/t_mp_quality/qpncnk0vpetw3f1ji9bt/9-things-you-probably-didn-t-know-about-marvel-s-black-panther-865172.jpg

Colossus automatically turns back to flesh when exposed to anti-metal.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107147/2012781-colossus_vibranium.jpg

That blows.

As hard as Storm does!

Double entendre FTW.

Seriously though, that seems a cheap ploy on the writer's part. Its organic metal. Same argument could easily be made for vibranium NOT working that way.

Organic or not, it doesn't matter, as long as it's also metal. Antarctic vibranium is so OP, it melts even adamantium, which is supposed to be indestructible *shrug*.

Anyway, I doubt T'Challa always carries it with him... he doesn't really have a "standard" version, his equipment (and even powerset) varies a lot.

That comic is retarded.

I definitely wouldn't call an Antartic Vibranium blade standard gear for BP.

I mean he usually has some form of Wakandan Vibranium on him, but not the anti-metal kind.

As for the fight, Colossus. Panther can get some licks in as he's faster and with a normal vibranium blade he should be able to hurt Colossus, but really Colossus just needs to grab BP to end it.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I definitely wouldn't call an Antartic Vibranium blade standard gear for BP.

I mean he usually has some form of Wakandan Vibranium on him, but not the anti-metal kind.

As for the fight, Colossus. Panther can get some licks in as he's faster and with a normal vibranium blade he should be able to hurt Colossus, but really Colossus just needs to grab BP to end it.


Thats how i see his fights with namor should go

Originally posted by -Pr-
That comic is retarded.

Actually, that was a great mini-series. But I get what you're saying, he should stay in metal form despite the pain?

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I definitely wouldn't call an Antartic Vibranium blade standard gear for BP.

His claws were made out of it.

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/3538457-rsz_2602513-2mrupo4.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Actually, that was a great mini-series. But I get what you're saying, he should stay in metal form despite the pain?



His claws were made out of it.

http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80103/3538457-rsz_2602513-2mrupo4.jpg

I just think the whole "anti-metal" thing is a bit silly. And even if it wasn't, Colossus should have more control of his own power than some foreign object.

It is a hax weapon, for sure:

1. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16715/2989087-5368750598-85998.png
2. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/powerlisting/images/d/d1/Misty_Knight_Anti-Metal.png/revision/latest?cb=20150920155457

When it originally appeared in DD comic... its vibrations were going to destroy the city or the world, don't remember... but good ol' Matt managed to save everyone, way before his MA training was fully explored haermm

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You're probably a big fan of Pete's knives too, amrite? vin

His whatnow?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandWisdom3.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandWisdom6.jpg

haw-som haw-som haw-som

Funny, I thought you meant Pete Wisdom at first, but given how shitty Marvel has been for a while now, people giving Colossus knives wouldn't surprise me.

Eh, Colossus kicked him around anyway.

They're not at that stage. Yet. Warpath and Drax are making bets on who is gonna get knives next

And not just ONE knife either. You got to have two, because god knows having one hand free isn't useful at all.

Yes. For someone like Barbarus, 4 would be needed.

PS. Someone made a Colossus respect thread on reddit a month ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/4h7bh4/respect_colossus_marvel_616/

These guys may not be experts, but thought you'd like to check it out anyway.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just think the whole "anti-metal" thing is a bit silly. And even if it wasn't, Colossus should have more control of his own power than some foreign object.



Oh yeah, not reasonable like a utility belt that functions as a pocket universe.

As for the fight, BP wins on the strength of standard gear.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That comic is retarded.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just think the whole "anti-metal" thing is a bit silly. And even if it wasn't, Colossus should have more control of his own power than some foreign object.

Its nice when i can 100% agree with the resident mod. And actually mean it.

I'm not sure about it really being bad. At least it follows the laws of physics somewhat. It's not like the weapon is described as melting metal it touches because it...just cuts. I think when the ''anti-metal'' touches another metal, it somehow heats the molecules at a molecule level thus melting it.....right? f*ck it i completely failed at basic science class :P

Haha!!!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Yes. For someone like Barbarus, 4 would be needed.

PS. Someone made a Colossus respect thread on reddit a month ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/4h7bh4/respect_colossus_marvel_616/

These guys may not be experts, but thought you'd like to check it out anyway.
I think this one at herochat is equally good
http://herochat.com/index.php?topic=2189.0

Always hated how guys like panther/batman took it to legit bricks. Its ridic.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
I think this one at herochat is equally good
http://herochat.com/index.php?topic=2189.0

Lol. That guy basically took snoopdogg's scans and made a thread

Still, as lazy as it was, nice job. But I'm hoping Pr's thread will be the best.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Always hated how guys like panther/batman took it to legit bricks. Its ridic.

Panther >>>> Batman, so there's that. But I do agree in an overall sense. I remember when Cap utterly humiliated the class 90 Rhino. It shouldn't have happened. By the way, Cap >>>> Batman as well.

Originally posted by TheHulk
I'm not sure about it really being bad. At least it follows the laws of physics somewhat. It's not like the weapon is described as melting metal it touches because it...just cuts. I think when the ''anti-metal'' touches another metal, it somehow heats the molecules at a molecule level thus melting it.....right? f*ck it i completely failed at basic science class :P

It's said to "liquefy" metal, all metal.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I remember when Cap utterly humiliated the class 90 Rhino. It shouldn't have happened.

To be fair, Rhino is one of the biggest jobbers in the MU.

Losing to Cap is nothing. He even lost to Misty Knight

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It's said to "liquefy" metal, all metal.

And it does so. I don't know if current Panther still uses anti-metal claws, but it certainly used to be his standard equip under Priest.

He uses them in M:AA game, too

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Panther >>>> Batman, so there's that. But I do agree in an overall sense. By the way, Cap >>>> Batman as well.


Wrong on both accounts

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Lol. That guy basically took snoopdogg's scans and made a thread

Still, as lazy as it was, nice job. But I'm hoping Pr's thread will be the best.
That's snoopdog.

So he was still active a year ago? Prefers HC than KMC, I guess? Left us in 2013.

I have room in my heart for both.

Riv is killing it with the blow job jokes.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/107147/2012781-colossus_vibranium.jpg Name and issue por favor.

Originally posted by SamZED
Name and issue por favor.
Smart, you dont want to buy that by accident.

Originally posted by SamZED
Riv is killing it with the blow job jokes.

Name and issue por favor.

X-Men / Spider-Man #4.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/X-Men_/_Spider-Man_Vol_1_4

Read the entire mini, it's only 4 issues.

...

Actually, I thought you did read it once?

So we agree this is an insta win for BP.

If he has AM claws... then yeah, it should be.

One could argue that Colossus could spam thunderclaps at him (which would be quite devastating, as T'Challa has enhanced sense of hearing and no HF), but it's totally OOC and I'm not even sure if regular Colossus has done a t-clap...?

I love how standard gear for BP always includes just what he happens to need to beat anyone in a forum fight.
Then its "Oh its NOT standard gear? My bad!" 2 pages later!

He doesn't really have a standard gear, lol. Doesn't change it as often as Tony, but still often enough to be confused.

For example, didn't he recently experiment with his vibranium suit to emulate Jedi powers like Force Push?

If he did it was likely in a forum fight against Darth Vader, because Panther.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He doesn't really have a standard gear, lol. Doesn't change it as often as Tony, but still often enough to be confused.

For example, didn't he recently experiment with his vibranium suit to emulate Jedi powers like Force Push? yep. Taking damage can now power him up as well. He could conceivably get punched in the face and redirect all of that kinetic energy back at his opponent. In a few years, he'll probably have some sort of galaxy busting cellphone as standard gear. The writers apparently can't think of a way to make him exiting without giving him super OP gear and monthly upgrades that even batman doesn't get.

Originally posted by deathslash
that even batman doesn't get.

Let's not go too far!

Miniature red suns Superman-buster suit...

Darkseid-buster suit...

With the next suit, he might be able to kill King Aquaman himself!

Difference is, you're making things up. Panther's actually getting things.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111112928/4215954-bvss+1.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111142536/4440032-batman+and+robin+037-004.jpg

I meant the Aquaman thing.

Oh, yeah. Lord Halibut will remain unbeatable

Also, BPs enhancements just get added to has standard gear. Those suits arent standard, any more than IMs Buster armors.

But i get it, BP writers replace characterization with gadgets.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Let's not go too far!

Miniature red suns Superman-buster suit...

Darkseid-buster suit...

With the next suit, he might be able to kill King Aquaman himself! whoah, whoah, whoa there. That last suit wasn't a darkseid buster. It was getting ripped up and batman knew it. And if we really wanna go that route, t'challa had a successful plan for stopping galactus, got an infinity guantlet (still has the time gem and a cosmic cube), and has outsmarted DOOM not once but twice.

Originally posted by deathslash
whoah, whoah, whoa there. That last suit wasn't a darkseid buster. It was getting ripped up and batman knew it. And if we really wanna go that route, t'challa had a successful plan for stopping galactus, got an infinity guantlet (still has the time gem and a cosmic cube), and has outsmarted DOOM not once but twice.

Technically, none of the Hulkbusters suits really were Hulkbusters haermm Yet that's what we call them.

That Hellbat suit at least had its moments. Tony just gets smashed... well, he got lucky in AoU movie at least.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Technically, none of the Hulkbusters suits really were Hulkbusters haermm Yet that's what we call them.

That Hellbat suit at least had its moments. Tony just gets smashed... well, he got lucky in AoU movie at least. he sure did. That satellite was the only thing saving him. Oh yeah, I know this is kind of late, but I'm sorry about how crossbones got treated in civil war.

Thanks.

weep weep weep

Zing.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
X-Men / Spider-Man #4.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/X-Men_/_Spider-Man_Vol_1_4

Read the entire mini, it's only 4 issues.

...

Actually, I thought you did read it once? I thought I did too. Can't remember this scene. There's a slim chance I dropped it after issue 3.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
It's said to "liquefy" metal, all metal. Meh, melting...liquefying...what's the difference, the metal basically ends up puddle water

Its all in the wording.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
To be fair, Rhino is one of the biggest jobbers in the MU.

Losing to Cap is nothing. He even lost to Misty Knight


I'm pretty sure she used her upgraded bionic arm for that. I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be basically an Iron Man arm. She wrecked Tiger Shark with it as well. And you yourself know its made of anti metal as well

A quick Google (not pulling the mini out of mothballs) and it looks like the upgrade was in Daughters of the Dragon 4. The Rhino beatdown was in DotD 1.

Panther

Originally posted by TheHulk
Meh, melting...liquefying...what's the difference, the metal basically ends up puddle water

One big difference is one involve unimaginable levels of heat and the other doesn't, making it much less troublesome.

And painful for Colossus!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If he has AM claws... then yeah, it should be.

One could argue that Colossus could spam thunderclaps at him (which would be quite devastating, as T'Challa has enhanced sense of hearing and no HF), but it's totally OOC and I'm not even sure if regular Colossus has done a t-clap...?

The only one I recall seeing is as Juggernaut. Shame really, as his hands are metal. The concussive force alone would be excessive.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The only one I recall seeing is as Juggernaut. Shame really, as his hands are metal. The concussive force alone would be excessive.

People are forgetting his ears are covered by vibranium that would deaden the vibration/sound.

Of course they are.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
People are forgetting his ears are covered by vibranium that would deaden the vibration/sound.

I was speaking more generally, tbh.

Plenty of bricks do the thunder clap or the big ground stomp. Colossus should be doing them more often.

Only scan of him i found doing so he was pimping Juggernaut's helmet.

bump

Thanks for the Bump.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thanks for the Bump.

Yezzir

I don't see how Colossus can win.

I dont see why Vanguard Bumped the thread with no opinion whatsoever, so we're even.

Colossus oneshots puny panther.

Originally posted by riv6672
I dont see why Vanguard Bumped the thread with no opinion whatsoever, so we're even.



I wanted to say Panther but I have a decent amount of respect for Colossus.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Colossus oneshots puny panther.

Zip it you

One shot kills puny panther.

^^^But...vibranium!

http://orig03.deviantart.net/f475/f/2014/350/e/3/fight_scene_by_ssulti-d8a3oh8.jpg

http://pm1.narvii.com/5812/d3cf7706741931a0403a4f7bce6d36104e02243f_hq.jpg

Black Panther dominates and Colossus Big C has a nervous breakdown!

Originally posted by TheHulkster
http://orig03.deviantart.net/f475/f/2014/350/e/3/fight_scene_by_ssulti-d8a3oh8.jpg

http://pm1.narvii.com/5812/d3cf7706741931a0403a4f7bce6d36104e02243f_hq.jpg
Whats the point, here?
Srsly, did BP win an off panel fight then hold a press conference?

Originally posted by riv6672
Whats the point, here?
Srsly, did BP win an off panel fight then hold a press conference?

LOL! No, it wasn't a press conference. That's part of his army behind him who fighting Thanos's forces. Just cited this as an at least possible example of Panther having success against an upper tier brick.

Ok thanks.
I mean, the blow we see didnt even connect.

Well, we never see the results of what appears to be a blow being thrown. So yes, any battle between them is almost completely off panel and all we see is the very beginning and the specific outcome of that battle. The fact of it being off panel is a point of contention since we know not the specifics. But then again, many of those who dispute this as a high showing for T'Challa (not you) for that reason likewise will declare that a Probe defeats 100,000 Daxamites despite the confrontation being off panel and, unlike with Panther, absent of a specifically shown outcome. So much depends on how much weight is put into off panel fights.

without knowing the details of the fight, i personally dont see how we can say it bears much weight in any particular thread.
In my case, i dont even know who the big guy is, or how strong.
In general though, no one knows how BP walked away from that encounter. Its too vague to be anything but a point of contention to argue over.
-shrug-

Originally posted by riv6672
without knowing the details of the fight, i personally dont see how we can say it bears much weight in any particular thread.
In my case, i dont even know who the big guy is, or how strong.
In general though, no one knows how BP walked away from that encounter. Its too vague to be anything but a point of contention to argue over.
-shrug-

Fair enough. As far as Black Dwarf is concerned, despite the disastrous end, the performance below would place him at Colossus level at the very least.

http://imgur.com/a/olwmg
http://i.imgur.com/lhVuF69.jpg

There's also his inability to conclusively deal with Shang Chi and Black Widow,though.