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How skilled and powerful is Darth Sion compared to other combatants in his era? (Or if you want, other eras, too). Who's the most skilled / powerful opponent he can beat? Discuss Below!

Depends on what you mean by powerful.



Just like Nihilus, Sion isn't powerful in the traditional sense of the word. Their power is not their own and it's not something they can control, it's not the power of Exar Kun or Revan or Sidious or Krayt. Rather, they both are extreme maladaptations, in the Darwinist sense of the word. They were "broken" and instead of healing correctly like the Exile eventually did, their healing became dysfunctional and ended up doing more harm than good. That's why I generally steer clear of debates involving the two of them, as they are more difficult to rank properly due to their natures.

But I digress.

To answer your question, Sion is a lethal threat to anyone who isn't:

a)vastly more powerful in offensive use of the Force, to the point where they can completely dominate him with telekinesis like Kreia did or more esoteric powers like draining, the way Nihilus did in that cut scene.

b)cunning enough to sniff out and exploit Sion's psychological torment and undermine his resolve

But even those two have their limits and are very conditional. Yes, Kreia was capable of "ragdolling" him and is stronger, but killing him is a different matter. The reason Sion submitted to her is that she was once his master and is responsible for effectively "creating" him. So she has a very strong mental hold on him, the way a slavemaster has over his slave or a pimp over his whores.

And while the Exile did defeat Sion by psychological trickery, it was Sion's twisted feelings of love for her. that allowed her to do it. Someone like Revan is certainly very cunning, but he can't inspire the same feelings in Sion and he doesn't have the same personal history with him Kreia does.

If we're talking strictly in terms of dueling, I'd say Sion is a lesser skilled version of Darth Maul. So any number of powerful Force users can defeat him. But as stated in the KOTOR Campaign Guide, other Jedi had defeated Sion only to be blindsided and killed once he "resurrected" himself.

So it's not outside the realm of possibility that, without prior knowledge, someone like Revan would beat Sion rather handily, let his guard down and find himself backstabbed because of it.

He's shit

bump

Stop bumping 2 day old threads you ******. The fact that no one's responding means no one gives a shit.

You're very mean, Sas.

Sion, while not incredibly powerful, IS incredibly dangerous. His skill and raw power are about that of your average Sith Lord (around the level of your average Jedi Master most likely), what makes him lethal is his immortality, the fact that he can just keep coming no matter how many times he gets cut down. Anybody who isn't powerful enough to annihilate him with the Force, or isn't smart enough to convince him to die, will not win against Sion.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Stop bumping 2 day old threads you ******. The fact that no one's responding means no one gives a shit. Everyone gives a shit about him in versus threads, but don't care to go over his combative abilities to see where he should be ranked?

Thats how we rank combat unknowns.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Sion, while not incredibly powerful, IS incredibly dangerous. His skill and raw power are about that of your average Sith Lord (around the level of your average Jedi Master most likely), what makes him lethal is his immortality, the fact that he can just keep coming no matter how many times he gets cut down. Anybody who isn't powerful enough to annihilate him with the Force, or isn't smart enough to convince him to die, will not win against Sion. Annihilating him with the force is a no-go too.

Nihilus tried that and failed miserably.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Annihilating him with the force is a no-go too.

Nihilus tried that and failed miserably.
I believe that a master of Telepathy could dominate his mind and convince him to end his suffering. The likes of Valkorion, Dread Masters and Revan had a good shot in this manner.

...That's actually not a bad point, LeG. mmm

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Everyone gives a shit about him in versus threads, but don't care to go over his combative abilities to see where he should be ranked?

Thats how we rank combat unknowns.

Darth Sion isn't a combat unknown, he's been around and discussed for over a decade. Besides, this isn't about the thread, this is about your dumb ass bumping threads that are still at the top of the page. Stop.

Why the venom, Newguy?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Why the venom, Newguy?

https://youtu.be/wRyr0oO_0ro?t=540

Sion's about as good as an average Sith Lord? LMFAO.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Sion's about as good as an average Sith Lord? LMFAO.
Ikr, he wouldn't even take TCW Ashoka

TCW Ahsoka would be heavily challenged by just one of Sion's Malachor cronies

Originally posted by NewGuy01
...That's actually not a bad point, LeG. mmm



Darth Sion isn't a combat unknown, he's been around and discussed for over a decade. Besides, this isn't about the thread, this is about your dumb ass bumping threads that are still at the top of the page. Stop. Don't act like you've never done any different. Whether or not I even said "bump" is irrelevant, because even if I made a normal response, it was going to get bumped anyway.

I'm sorry that you're on your period and threads that are on the front page getting bumped fills you with rage, but it isn't the first time its happened, and everyone here has done it at some point.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Sion's about as good as an average Sith Lord? LMFAO.

Yeah, he should really be below that