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The Shadow vs Ras Al Ghul and the League of Shadows.

Lets say Lamont needs to save that chick in the pic. Takes place on he moutain in the orient.

Can the Shadow do it or does Ras and his boys put him down?

Using any version of the Shadow other then the over powered Rapey Child Molesting Garth (I eat man penis) Ennis version.

Shadow achieves what he's after without to much trouble.
LOA don't even know what het them and never see him coming.

Even if all we use is the Version DC has used in Batman comics he out stealthed Batman. Fired a shot to take out a weapon unseen by Bats from a hidden vantage point. And saved Batmans @$$ several times without ever putting himself in danger.

There are other better versions like the one who soloed Green Hornet and Kato casually.

When did all this Shadow/Batman stuff happened?

Yeah, Shadow can accomplish the mission.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
When did all this Shadow/Batman stuff happened?

Public domain Shadow had about 3 (IIRC) cross overs with the Bat pre COIE.

These
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Were two.

Bats was clearly impressed with him.

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His stealth was far too much for Bruce.
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Shadow had saved Bats hide with his marksmanship the page prior. Marksmanship that lets him take down a light aircraft with a handgun.

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Here is another time Shadow saved Bats having kept himself out of sight the whole time.

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And Shadow was so good at stealth he didnt even know he was watching till shadow

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Here

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He took apart Green Hornet and kato.

And here
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Is where Grendal couldn't even touch him.

Courtesy of the fact that hes been oublished by just about every single comic publisher and has feats galore Shadow is the numbero uno of street characters. Anything any street can do he can slide thru.

Batman 253

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wXnJe_ciW3g/TdZpg-5l5BI/AAAAAAAADz0/rR8TGEpCirQ/s0/Batman253-00.jpg

And 259
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HBKWtrKbYAk/SnFvvhtNvWI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/05sZWmm1ybs/s400/Batman+259.jpg

Bat's impressed
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4eHDwD1JF3I/ULxK6ab13VI/AAAAAAAAMDA/RiO7TVMGdFc/s1600/Batman259-22.jpg

Bat's unaware he was being watched until Shadow revealed himself
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/0/00/Batman_and_Shadow_001_.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120509175940

Rather than post multiple scans this should be enough to cover off

http://crimeandpunishmentcomics.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/batman-shadow-night-of-shadow-part-1.html

Apparently my memory is fuzzy cause by that link there were only two crossovers with the bat.

But just because I LOVE this one, here's the Shadow taking out a Plane with an hand gun from Batman 253.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wXnJe_ciW3g/TdZqL2sLLcI/AAAAAAAADzY/H5qyuwnDiWA/s0/Batman253-14.jpg

Got a few things to add to the want list now...

Nice links!

Originally posted by riv6672
Nice links!

Thanks

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Got a few things to add to the want list now...

Glad I could point you

Shadow should wreck them. In addition to wiping the floor with grendel, he easily downed Kato and it's possible that the batman scans are still canon for him.

Beating Grendel is f*cking ridiculous in its own right, given that Grendel is, among other things, fast enough to casually deflect bullets at close range with extreme precision:
http://i.imgur.com/elzEEkb.jpg

Shadow would handle the League quite easily, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beating Grendel is f*cking ridiculous in its own right, given that Grendel is, among other things, fast enough to casually deflect bullets at close range with extreme precision:
http://i.imgur.com/elzEEkb.jpg

Shadow would handle the League quite easily, imo. Grendel is even more impressive when people realize that he fought a phucking werewolf shaman for most of his career.

When you mean League of Shadows do you mean League of Assassins? Shadow isn't beating the DCnU's vesion of League of Assassins. Way too powerful.

Originally posted by Zack M
When you mean League of Shadows do you mean League of Assassins? Shadow isn't beating the DCnU's vesion of League of Assassins. Way too powerful. the shadow does this with ease. He literally pulled the "disappearing" move on Batman while Bruce was looking at him. He regularly fades into the shadows before his opponents very eyes. So, he sneaks in, rescues the girl, and leaves a duce on Ra's Al Ghul's desk before he goes (hell, he even makes sure to throw his laughter so that everyone follows it to the duce).

Originally posted by deathslash
the shadow does this with ease. He literally pulled the "disappearing" move on Batman while Bruce was looking at him. He regularly fades into the shadows before his opponents very eyes. So, he sneaks in, rescues the girl, and leaves a duce on Ra's Al Ghul's desk before he goes (hell, he even makes sure to throw his laughter so that everyone follows it to the duce).

How does Shadow beat someone who can control the density of his body? During that said arc, Ra's was drawing power from the pits themselves and was way beyond a street levler.

Originally posted by Zack M
How does Shadow beat someone who can control the density of his body? During that said arc, Ra's was drawing power from the pits themselves and was way beyond a street levler.

What did he do?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
What did he do?

Guys like Rictus can control his own density and others. He no longer feels exhaustion. He's one of the most powerful members of the League.

Cheshire is another. She casually tooled Roy Harper, Starfire, and Green Arrow the first time they met. She can teleport and turn intangible. She's hard to hit.

Originally posted by Zack M
How does Shadow beat someone who can control the density of his body? Nerve strikes 10/10.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nerve strikes 10/10.

Most of his body is cybernetics. Which is why he doesn't get tired or feel pain.

Damn. I hate upgrades

Zack, what makes you think that this is the new 52 league of assassins? The pic that was used for them in post flashoint.

Originally posted by Zack M
Most of his body is cybernetics. Which is why he doesn't get tired or feel pain. So you wanna play hardball, eh? sly

Hypnosis + nerve strikes ought to do the trick 10/10.



Anyway, here is The Shadow's fight with Grendel for anyone who hasn't seen it:
http://i.imgur.com/2oEv44c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nlpSvwB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XhVIjJk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kAglWH5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7LVk3k3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zzWkhjl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7mKtYkl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L4QpOmJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fqN44Cu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/leKZXJp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Timkeel.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AamtvHo.jpg

I have never seen Grendel outright overwhelmed in every single area of combat like that... And the fact that Matt Wagner(the dude who created Grendel) is who wrote that battle/mini, and STILL had The Shadow legitimately beat him, speaks volumes. Imo.

Ok, hardball it is. Forgot to mention December Graystone. His BLOOD MAGIC is capable of taking over people. Here is controlling Jason Todd. He can do a bunch of stuff with Blood magic.

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/DGR_zpsijk00u5v.jpg

Basically, the New 52 version of League are like Hand on steroids.

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/LOA_zpsmsfdpnqa.jpg

Damn, they even borrowed Tiger Claw from Shredder...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111190069/4342990-tiger+claw.jpg

How much chance would Ras stand straight up against Lamont?

The Shadow's gun-slinging is good enough that he can overwhelm bullet timers with hail storms of lead.

The Shadow #16

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http://i.imgur.com/hxUk9Ob.jpg

As the Shadow did against Esclarmonde.

Also, later on in their final fight the Shadow could even catch her sword in his bare-hands.

The Shadow #18

http://i.imgur.com/2oe6ykV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2JGSMbx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bbtN2bW.jpg

Another thing is that the Shadow's psychic powers are potent enough that he can command someone to come back to life. This is temporary though.

The Shadow #1

http://i.imgur.com/cMiWVeo.jpg

Where the Shadow interrogates a thug he recently killed.

The Shadow #2

http://i.imgur.com/m5kbAi2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QIewwzL.jpg

Commanding a pilot who has been peppered with bullets to stay alive long enough to land the plane they're on.

The Shadow #3

http://i.imgur.com/Ol3Z5F2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/idP24D2.jpg

Commanding an assassin back to life after shooting him in the head.

Anyway, at the very least I think his powers might work on spirits considering the temporary resurrection stuff. The "do not cross over" stuff in particular in #1.

Also, from the Shadow #1.

http://i.imgur.com/P1S56DU.jpg
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The Shadow can also seemingly teleport by clouding men's minds. Probably by messing with their perception of time or something.

Taken from the Shadow #1

http://i.imgur.com/tzLnClP.jpg

The Shadow explains to Margo Lane that he can see glimpses of a person's future by tracing their soul to the end of its path.

Taken from the Shadow #6

http://i.imgur.com/ZNEHKu0.jpg
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It even lets the Shadow know that Taro Kando would die in the Hiroshima bombing.

To bad the stips of the thread specifically point out that you CAN'T USE THE GARTH (I EAT MY OWN SHIT OFF MY OWN PENIS) Ennis version.


SO TO BAD!

You don't seem particularly fond of Garth Ennis.

Here is the Cheshire battle for anyone who wants to see it. Beastly.

Red Hood, Arsenal, Green Arrow & Starfire vs. Cheshire (RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS ANNUAL #1)

Originally posted by Zack M
When you mean League of Shadows do you mean League of Assassins? Shadow isn't beating the DCnU's vesion of League of Assassins. Way too powerful.

You'll need to post feats of their SENSORY abilities. This isn't a straight up fight. Its Lamont sneaking in, saving the girl, and getting out.

If he can sneak past Batman, how are the League detecting him?

Originally posted by Galan007
So you wanna play hardball, eh? sly

Hypnosis + nerve strikes ought to do the trick 10/10.



Anyway, here is The Shadow's fight with Grendel for anyone who hasn't seen it:
http://i.imgur.com/2oEv44c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nlpSvwB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XhVIjJk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kAglWH5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7LVk3k3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zzWkhjl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7mKtYkl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L4QpOmJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fqN44Cu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/leKZXJp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Timkeel.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AamtvHo.jpg

I have never seen Grendel outright overwhelmed in every single area of combat like that... And the fact that Matt Wagner(the dude who created Grendel) is who wrote that battle/mini, and STILL had The Shadow legitimately beat him, speaks volumes. Imo.

Notice how the only time in the whole fight Grendal even manages to so much as strike Shadow is when Shadow thought he was under him hypnotic control.

Ras wont be able to resist what Grendal did niether will LOA

Originally posted by Sharivan
You don't seem particularly fond of Garth Ennis.
Fly's not fond of most anything. Its his thing. Not that he's fond of that thing, either.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You'll need to post feats of their SENSORY abilities. This isn't a straight up fight. Its Lamont sneaking in, saving the girl, and getting out.

If he can sneak past Batman, how are the League detecting him?
Its not.
But he made an interesting tangent.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
How much chance would Ras stand straight up against Lamont? None.

Originally posted by Galan007
None.

Does he have a bat with barbwire wrapped round it?

Originally posted by beatboks
Notice how the only time in the whole fight Grendal even manages to so much as strike Shadow is when Shadow thought he was under him hypnotic control.

Ras wont be able to resist what Grendal did niether will LOA it should also be noted that Grendel's fight with batman was far more even than the one sided curbstomping that he received from the shadow.

Thats telling, if only in the styles used.

Originally posted by deathslash
it should also be noted that Grendel's fight with batman was far more even than the one sided curbstomping that he received from the shadow.

Yeah, though for some reason I can't find my Batman Grendel scans ATM.

So what do we know

Shadow >>> Stealth than Batman, because he can disapear literally from Batman's grasp

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/5389383-batman253-18.jpg
From Batman 253 Page 18

Shadow better sleuth than batman (more due to his mind abilities than actual detective work)

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/5389386-batman-259_p19.jpg
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/5389387-batman-259_p20.jpg
he found out/deduced what Batman cold not (batman 259)

Overall better combatant than Batman because he performed better vs Grendel than Batman did ( in part due to marksmanship than straight out H2H). Though h could still take down Kato with a single nerve strike

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Speaking of which said marksmanship saved Batman in 253
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/5389415-batman253-17.jpg
Literally the page before He disappeared from Batman's grasp.

Shadow has better senses and reactions than Batman also
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/5389389-sense.jpg
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/5389390-sense+react.jpg

Shadow is not having any issues with the LOA and Ras.

Originally posted by deathslash
Grendel is even more impressive when people realize that he fought a phucking werewolf shaman for most of his career.

I'm relieved to know I haven't been the only person plagued by werewolf shamans.

Thats not ad common as you think.

Round these pars WereShaman make for a pretty tasty BBQ.