Civil War II

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Jury
Any insights?

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abhilegend
It's garbage.

basilisk
From what I've seen so far, it ranges from very average to garbage. A lot of the characterization seems forced basically to to fit the plot that they want to do. And Bendis sucks.

Kazenji
I haven't been following it, Only seeing the death's that happen through social media from various comic book news sites.

leonidas
yeah, most has not been very good. even the premise it...kinda weak to try and create an 'event' around for the whole MU. sure i could see some debate and strong opinions regarding ulysses. but trying to force an event with that as the root? pretty weak imo.

AlmightyKfish
It's about as poor as the first CW was.

Although at least the debate in it is a bit more two sided. But at least by now in Civil War there had been a battle that was somewhat decent, which looks like we won't get till at least next issue here as this series is almost twice as long because Bendis is bad at pacing.

basilisk
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Bendis is bad at pacing. Come to think of it, Bendis is bad at most stuff that has anything to do with writing - pacing, dialogue, characterization, plotting... he should just hand over his ideas to proper writers, who could then throw 95% of it straight in the garbage and maybe salvage something of what's left. The Ulysses thing maybe could have gone somewhere interesting but not in Bendis's feeble hands.

AlmightyKfish
Eh Bendis has had some good stuff in the past, albeit not recently imo.

Kazenji
He was doing good on the current Iron Man book for its first story arc, Then business as usual for Bendis after that

feels like he needs a break from comic book writing.

basilisk
Heh, maybe I am a little too harsh on Bendis at times, I have thought in the past that he had some interesting ideas here and there (although that from what I've seen recently I though that current Iron Man series looked absolutely terrible). A break probably wouldn't hurt him.

I won't forgive him for taking over and revamping Guardians, Nova etc though.

Kazenji
Originally posted by basilisk
(although that from what I've seen recently I though that current Iron Man series looked absolutely terrible).


Which one?....there's currently two ongoing books out, Could be thinking of the one with Alex Maleev.

basilisk
Originally posted by Kazenji
Which one?....there's currently two ongoing books out, Could be thinking of the one with Alex Maleev.

Yeah, one had the decent Deodato art and looked half interesting early on, although the last issue I saw was pretty typical Bendis.

The main one I'm thinking of is probably the Maleev one. I don't really like the art style for that sort of comic, and the whole Bendis messing with Stark's parents thing - no thanks. That guy shouldn't be allowed to mess with anything important.

Kazenji
That whole idea with Stark's real parents started with Kieron Gillen when he did a run on Iron Man....but course Bendis had to keep poking the fire.

SevenShackles
what is it even about?

Kazenji
Originally posted by SevenShackles
what is it even about?

Think something along the lines of Minority Report

when a new Inhuman named Ulysses emerges with the ability to predict the future, One side wishes to use him to stop future incidents before they happen and the other side doesn't want that.

staxamillion
Originally posted by Kazenji
Think something along the lines of Minority Report

when a new Inhuman named Ulysses emerges with the ability to predict the future, One side wishes to use him to stop future incidents before they happen and the other side doesn't want that.

that's what its all over? that does sound like a lame premise to bring together all of the marvel universe.

basilisk
Originally posted by Kazenji
Think something along the lines of Minority Report

when a new Inhuman named Ulysses emerges with the ability to predict the future, One side wishes to use him to stop future incidents before they happen and the other side doesn't want that.

Originally posted by staxamillion
that's what its all over? that does sound like a lame premise to bring together all of the marvel universe.

In Force Works, Tony built the chaos computer which used Scarlet Witch's probability powers to predict future events and proactively stop crises. In Civil War II he opposed the use of Ulysses to do basically the same. I guess he changed his mind.

staxamillion
It's sounds like a decent premise the more I think of it now. with all the reality bending/universe shattering stuff going on right now it does seem more apt for them to preempt a threat instead of finagling a way that possibly might rupture the time/space.

@ the same time it sounds like something the x-men or avengers have handled before. I guess im interested enough to give it a shot.

BruceSkywalker
I'm getting ready for Civil war 3 big grin big grin big grin

Bentley
So I was away from comics pretty much the whole year, was this the most awesome event ever or what?

Damborgson
From what I saw of it, it was pretty bad. The art was pretty amazing in some spots though.

Kazenji
I didn't even read the main books, Mainly some of the tie-in books for other ongoing series.

StiltmanFTW
I've only skimmed through some random issues... it's not as obnoxious as it could be, given today's extremely mediocre standards... but I might've missed the truly horrible parts, so can't say for sure.

StiltmanFTW
I liked how characters like the Kingpin seemed like heroes in the nazi superhero world made by Carol Dyke Danvers stick out tongue

Tony had some notable moments, too.

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