White Crown of the Phoenix Vs The Anti-Life Entity

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Zack M
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/AL_zps3wjkkq6d.jpg

vs

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/WP_zpscedf2bey.jpg

Flyattractor
A.L.E

zopzop
Serious question : Has White Crown Phoenix done anything impressive on panel?

Stoic
The Phoenix Force and the ALE may bind together as one. They would be completely compatible, and capable of writing their own reality that could exist within them. It could probably make them one being, The ALE's counter or opposite seemed extremely similar to the Phoenix Force in all that it is. At least that's what I see possibly happening. I also wonder if it would even be close if Nekron and the ALE fought?

Galan007
ALE.

Stoic
Originally posted by Galan007
ALE.

Nekron vs ALE? Sorry off topic, but it's busting me up to know.

Galan007
I believe the ALE is more powerful.

But given the concept(s) Nekron embodies, I can't think of a realistic way the ALE could destroy him permanently. /shrug

Stoic
So they'd just sit there watching each other. Got it lol. Sorry, it just seems hilarious to me.

Galan007
No, they'd fight.

However, Nekron doesn't possess the power necessary to destroy the ALE, and the ALE, while more powerful, doesn't possess the *type* of power required to destroy Nekron(ie. the white light of creation.)

Ergo stalemate.

dynamix
Ale looks awesome

Stoic
ALE looks awesome? Uhm I was thinking that the Phoenix looked awesome in that pic.

dynamix
she's more like awedaammnnn lol. ALE looks dangerous as fck. Like a huge lumbering supernatural nightmare that sounds off deep cosmic fog horn-like noise when he moves.

Zack M
Yeah, Jean looks like someone who I want to Phuck
ALE is someone who I don't want to phuck with.

AsbestosFlaygon
I remeber a scene where James Braddock Jr. was warping the White Hot Room with ease.

ALE > James Braddock Jr.

ABC theory that makes sense
Imo

Mr Master
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon

James Braddock Jr. was warping the White Hot Room with ease.
This happened.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon

ALE > James Braddock Jr.
But where/when did this happen?

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Zack M
Yeah, Jean looks like someone who I want to Phuck
ALE is someone who I don't want to phuck with.

...Ditto

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
This happened.

But where/when did this happen? During DotNG, Starlin retconned the ALE into half of the Source Being's power... So it honestly *should* be far more powerful than Braddock.

Even back in Cosmic Odyssey, it took the destruction of an entire dimension just to contain an aspect of it, iirc. /shrug

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007

During DotNG, Starlin retconned the ALE into half of the Source Being's power... So it honestly *should* be far more powerful than Braddock.
I wouldn't know. But Jamie's high showings are God-like. He has several under his belt.
Originally posted by Galan007

Even back in Cosmic Odyssey, it took the destruction of an entire dimension just to contain an aspect of it, iirc. /shrug
Actually it was the full AL Entity I recall.

The 4 aspects was what the AL Entity sent to those planets where two heroes defeated them each. (one of which was Batman)

That AL Entity also would have died if it were taken out its home dimension.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
I wouldn't know. Well now you do. wink

The ALE = half of the Source's complete power:
http://i.imgur.com/tHQG5oP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jcwaA8G.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TobGHcX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/K8gdc9K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8YFzXPE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0jiZLPZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAxrLgZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bGwp0Uz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jwb9U3h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hzie3ep.jpg

...Which should put it beyond Braddock's level by proxy, imo.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That AL Entity also would have died if it were taken out its home dimension. Still quite something that it required the obliteration of an entire dimension just to seal the ALE in its own realm(the forces of DC simply could not have defeated it any other way.)

AsbestosFlaygon
OT: The Source Being is just an aspect of The Presence, right? Similar to The Hand, The Voice, Spectre, Radiant, The Word, etc? Not to Yahweh/Wally/Scottish terrier, correct? It always seemed to me that Yahweh, Wally the God-boy, and the Scottish terrier is The Presence himself changing his form at will, like how he did when Elaine Belloc first met him.

SquallX
Originally posted by Galan007
Well now you do. wink

The ALE = half of the Source's complete power:
http://i.imgur.com/tHQG5oP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jcwaA8G.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TobGHcX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/K8gdc9K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8YFzXPE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0jiZLPZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAxrLgZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bGwp0Uz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jwb9U3h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hzie3ep.jpg

...Which should put it beyond Braddock's level by proxy, imo.

Still quite something that it required the obliteration of an entire dimension just to seal the ALE in its own realm(the forces of DC simply could not have defeated it any other way.)

Should we be using DOTNG as proof since I thought it was no longer canon?

Mr Master
Originally posted by Galan007

Which should put it beyond Braddock's level by proxy, imo.
I was referring to this, when I stated: 'I wouldn't know.'
Originally posted by Galan007

Still quite something that it required the obliteration of an entire dimension just to seal the ALE in its own realm

(the forces of DC simply could not have defeated it any other way.)
The AL Entity (cosmic odyssey) was undoubtedly at-least beyond universal.

Unfortunately we'll never know just how much more powerful exactly it was,
because it's only opponents (forces of DC)
was the "Cinque of Cosmic Power" (Dr Fate, Hughfather, Darkseid, Etrigen, Orion: merged)
This 'Cosmic Cinque of power' was at-last absolutely universal,
and we know the ALE was above them, but not far above them when considering their brief confrontation.

Galan007
Originally posted by SquallX
Should we be using DOTNG as proof since I thought it was no longer canon? I was unaware that DotNG had been retconned across the board -- especially since its happenings crossed-over into other titles. When did this happen..? confused

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