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Brainiac from the 64th Century gets prep. Can he stop the coming of the Galactus Engine?

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/B13_zpseatuqbwr.jpg

vs

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o589/lupinw45/GE_zpsgkwv1iwk.png

B13

Engine for the stomp.

B13

B13 should win this with minimal effort

What has B13 done that would show him able to overwhelm this group?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L9H-IQiP4bY/V4C6cAAtNQI/AAAAAAACj6g/3RgUdE6Z3_c1LM84438rfjkVOIsJ2k-wQCLcB/s1600/07_18.jpg

http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1459385-the_engine.jpg

1. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/brainiac1.jpg
2. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/brainiac2.jpg

No opinion on the match, but pretty sure this is his greatest feat. I do hope GE and the cancer verse returns. There was a lot of potential there

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What has B13 done that would show him able to overwhelm this group?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L9H-IQiP4bY/V4C6cAAtNQI/AAAAAAACj6g/3RgUdE6Z3_c1LM84438rfjkVOIsJ2k-wQCLcB/s1600/07_18.jpg

http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1459385-the_engine.jpg
Galactus Engine was directly stated to be less powerful than Shuma Gorath and a bunch of Elder Gods.

A universal abstract (Death) casually owned entire Cancerverse. A universal abstract (Kismet) nearly died just rupturing Imperiex's armor who was a peer to B13.

That is a shitty showing for Galactus and Celestials than anything else.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus Engine was directly stated to be less powerful than Shuma Gorath and a bunch of Elder Gods.

A universal abstract (Death) casually owned entire Cancerverse. A universal abstract (Kismet) nearly died just rupturing Imperiex's armor who was a peer to B13.

That is a shitty showing for Galactus and Celestials than anything else.

Death kills Lord Mar-vell and his death triggers the collapse of the Cancerverse. Kismet hides in fear from a being whom Superman defeats.

Eliminating far reaching ABC logic, Braniac 13 would not even remotely be able to stand up to what the Galactus Engine stands up to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus Engine was directly stated to be less powerful than Shuma Gorath and a bunch of Elder Gods.

A universal abstract (Death) casually owned entire Cancerverse. A universal abstract (Kismet) nearly died just rupturing Imperiex's armor who was a peer to B13.

That is a shitty showing for Galactus and Celestials than anything else.

Wasn't B 13 going to remake the universe?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Death kills Lord Mar-vell and his death triggers the collapse of the Cancerverse.

Nope, she blasted the shit out of MAOs as shown in Bendis AA .

Dominus? He was a reality warper who was caught in his own warp. Dude literally created a multiverse out of nothingness.

Of course he would. Celestials aren't worth shit these days and Galactus is the quintessential jobber.

All it shows that Galactus and Celestials are right around skyfather level and below Elder Gods like Shuma Gorath.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, she blasted the shit out of MAOs as shown in Bendis AA .

Dominus? He was a reality warper who was caught in his own warp. Dude literally created a multiverse out of nothingness.

Of course he would. Celestials aren't worth shit these days and Galactus is the quintessential jobber.

All it shows that Galactus and Celestials are right around skyfather level and below Elder Gods like Shuma Gorath.

Which issue of AA do you refer?

Dominus never creates a multiverse. He manipulates multiple timelines involving Superman.

We just see Galactus punch out Order and Chaos.

Originally posted by Zack M
Wasn't B 13 going to remake the universe?

He plans to use Imperiex's energy for something like that (possibly to rule). He apparently needs that energy for that purpose.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
We just see Galactus punch out Order and Chaos.

Please don't try to pass off Lifebringer Galactus and the Galactus that stood against the engine as one and the same

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He plans to use Imperiex's energy for something like that (possibly to rule). He apparently needs that energy for that purpose.

He doesn't plan to -- he did it. He remade the universe in his image.

How this goes depends on whether we're using B13 who already has Imperiex's energies (stomp) or not (highly debatable). Also depends on whether there are any limitations on prep...

B 13 has a week prep.

Originally posted by Cogito
Please don't try to pass off Lifebringer Galactus and the Galactus that stood against the engine as one and the same



He doesn't plan to -- he did it. He remade the universe in his image.

How this goes depends on whether we're using B13 who already has Imperiex's energies (stomp) or not (highly debatable). Also depends on whether there are any limitations on prep...

So we are to pass the Galactus and the Celestials that stand against the engine as Skyfather level? I mean honestly, we are pitting Braniac 13 against an entity that is seemingly beating the combination of dozens of Celestials along with Galactus and two of his near equals. The thought that Brainiac beats that seems incredibly irrational. Saying that he beats Galactus alone can be argued just fine, but now we step into the ridiculous.

There has been no statement regarding Lifebringer Galactus being more powerful. This is assumed based on his performance against Order and Chaos and how there is a feeling of them being surprised. But what is happening now is picking and choosing of power based on how the choice affects the argument. So Galactus and the Celestials are declared Skyfather level for the sake of lowballing The Galactus Engine, and Lifebringer Galactus is declared more powerful in order to further this lowballing. If Brainiac is shown beating them the same way, they would be declared as powerful as ever by the same folks treating them as Skyfather level now.

So now, Sun-dipped Superman is more powerful than the combination of dozens of Celestials and three Galactus level beings? Really? Brainiac gets stomped. With Imperiex's energy, he is beaten convincingly.

Regarding the universe he reshapes, are you talking about the big bang at the beginning of time?

I believe Lifebringer is definitely more powerful than standard 616 Galactus was.

First off, he now possesses "boundless" energy:
http://i.imgur.com/nUIJnAZ.jpg
*Galactus obviously NEVER possessed boundless power -- that's why he needed to constantly feed.

Secondly, Chaos and Order's reasoning for being able to "bring him to heel"(ie. forcibly make Lifebringer revert back into Galactus) is because "they were always his superiors in the cosmic hierarchy":
http://i.imgur.com/eKtQyMD.jpg

We also saw the same fact illustrated here:
http://i.imgur.com/84uEL2e.jpg
IOW, Order/Chaos were more powerful than Galactus -- which is why they were initially so confident when they confronted Lifebringer.

That said, we saw how easily Lifebringer was able to handle the duo:
http://i.imgur.com/sXkpuMy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oaWaUdg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZKxUwIn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mL56g8F.jpg


This indicates a substantial upgrade. Of course *some* will disagree for no logical reason, but the evidence is clear... So I'm not going to indulge that nonsense.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Galactus Engine was directly stated to be less powerful than Shuma Gorath and a bunch of Elder Gods.
In your own words ... "Hyperbole!"

Unless there's some actual depiction that suggests this thought to be a possibility.
Originally posted by abhilegend

All it shows that

Galactus and Celestials are right around skyfather level

and below Elder Gods like Shuma Gorath.

Originally posted by Galan007
I believe Lifebringer is definitely more powerful than standard 616 Galactus was.

First off, he now possesses "boundless" energy:
http://i.imgur.com/nUIJnAZ.jpg
*Galactus obviously NEVER possessed boundless power -- that's why he needed to constantly feed.

Secondly, Chaos and Order's reasoning for being able to "bring him to heel"(ie. forcibly make Lifebringer revert back into Galactus) is because "they were always his superiors in the cosmic hierarchy":
http://i.imgur.com/eKtQyMD.jpg

We also saw the same fact illustrated here:
http://i.imgur.com/84uEL2e.jpg
IOW, Order/Chaos were more powerful than Galactus -- which is why they were initially so confident when they confronted Lifebringer.

That said, we saw how easily Lifebringer was able to handle the duo:
http://i.imgur.com/sXkpuMy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oaWaUdg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZKxUwIn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mL56g8F.jpg


This indicates a substantial upgrade. Of course *some* will disagree for no logical reason, but the evidence is clear... So I'm not going to indulge that nonsense.

Who do you see winning here?

BTW, did Lord Chaos/Master Order just barf on Galactus?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Which issue of AA do you refer?


The same where Thanos gets his shit kicked in.

Creates entire multiverse for Superman to experience.

http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/34j2mh4.jpg

Waverider confirms that the realities were actual.

http://i55.tinypic.com/5our10.jpg



Amped Galactus beats Two featless abstracts? Am I supposed to be impressed?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Which issue of AA do you refer?

Dominus never creates a multiverse. He manipulates multiple timelines involving Superman.

We just see Galactus punch out Order and Chaos. Dominus is greatly exaggerated. I read the arc years ago and was embarrassed.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In your own words ... "Hyperbole!"

Unless there's some actual depiction that suggests this thought to be a possibility.


Wut? That was outright informed in the comic.

Blame marvel writers.

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd466/shogunofharlem1/ThanosAnnual001-024_zps19e195fc.jpg

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So we are to pass the Galactus and the Celestials that stand against the engine as Skyfather level? I mean honestly, we are pitting Braniac 13 against an entity that is seemingly beating the combination of dozens of Celestials along with Galactus and two of his near equals. The thought that Brainiac beats that seems incredibly irrational. Saying that he beats Galactus alone can be argued just fine, but now we step into the ridiculous.

There has been no statement regarding Lifebringer Galactus being more powerful. This is assumed based on his performance against Order and Chaos and how there is a feeling of them being surprised. But what is happening now is picking and choosing of power based on how the choice affects the argument. So Galactus and the Celestials are declared Skyfather level for the sake of lowballing The Galactus Engine, and Lifebringer Galactus is declared more powerful in order to further this lowballing. If Brainiac is shown beating them the same way, they would be declared as powerful as ever by the same folks treating them as Skyfather level now.

So now, Sun-dipped Superman is more powerful than the combination of dozens of Celestials and three Galactus level beings? Really? Brainiac gets stomped. With Imperiex's energy, he is beaten convincingly.

Regarding the universe he reshapes, are you talking about the big bang at the beginning of time?
All I see is a lot of whining about how Galactus and Celestials are so much powerful when marvel itself shows that they are skyfather level.

B13 ****ing stomps here. Unless you think Shuma Gorath is universal level abstract or something.

It also appeared as though BB destroyed one of the MAOs while drifting in the Fault:
http://i.imgur.com/bG5au7f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/le2VyGs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mahqQaA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VpTEJ5t.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
The same where Thanos gets his shit kicked in.

Creates entire multiverse for Superman to experience.

http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/34j2mh4.jpg

Waverider confirms that the realities were actual.

http://i55.tinypic.com/5our10.jpg



Amped Galactus beats Two featless abstracts? Am I supposed to be impressed?

Can you provide the scan where Death is shown in that issue?

Wave rider confirms this to be a web of possible timelines. That confirms that Dominus manipulates timelines. That is all he is ever shown to do in that arc and the manipulated timelines affect Superman only.

Originally posted by abhilegend
All I see is a lot of whining about how Galactus and Celestials are so much powerful when marvel itself shows that they are skyfather level.

B13 ****ing stomps here. Unless you think Shuma Gorath is universal level abstract or something.

You mean an image drawn by Starlin in one of his books? That's detailed official right?

An Imperiex Prime enhanced Braniac is helpless agains SD Superman. Braniac gets mud stomped.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Can you provide the scan where Death is shown in that issue?


MAOs were shown alive and incapacitated. The Cancerverse was shown intact as well.



facepalm

http://i55.tinypic.com/34j2mh4.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/5our10.jpg

Dominus outright says he is giving Superman an experience of Infinite multiverse and then Waverider flat out says that those were alternate realities superman was experiencing.

Nothing else need to be explained.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You mean an image drawn by Starlin in one of his books? That's detailed official right?

An Imperiex Prime enhanced Braniac is helpless agains SD Superman. Braniac gets mud stomped.


Yes, of course its official.

And Superman in a less powerful state under the same writer would have destroyed Worloggog (a legit multiversal artifact) in one attack.

He was basically a plot device in sundipped state.

You said:

"Nope, she blasted the shit out of MAOs as shown in Bendis AA."

Where is this shown?

And of course, Bendis was ripped by fans for totally contradicting what was shown in TI. Bendis does that, which is why you love to reference him.

Originally posted by abhilegend


Yes, of course its official.

And Superman in a less powerful state under the same writer would have destroyed Worloggog (a legit multiversal artifact) in one attack.

He was basically a plot device in sundipped state.

It's an image that doesn't give any comparisons power wise. Superman is more powerful than Braniac 13.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? That was outright informed in the comic.

And where did that occur? It's a meaningless hyperbole with nothing to prove it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The same where Thanos gets his shit kicked in.

Creates entire multiverse for Superman to experience.

http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/34j2mh4.jpg

Waverider confirms that the realities were actual.

http://i55.tinypic.com/5our10.jpg



Amped Galactus beats Two featless abstracts? Am I supposed to be impressed?

Yeah, what did they actually do feat wise? I mean they barfed on Galactus.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You said:

"Nope, she blasted the shit out of MAOs as shown in Bendis AA."


Yes, and they were still alive as opposed to be dead you said after TI.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZgxegS3Qmfw/UxQOdMsCKaI/AAAAAAABBiI/ouWhWnMCad4/s1600/p8_8.jpg



He didn't contradict anything. The same is shown again in GOTG and expanded as Mar-vell was resurrected again by the power of Cancerverse.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
It's an image that doesn't give any comparisons power wise. Superman is more powerful than Braniac 13.

Wut?

Sundipped superman. Normal Superman and the rest of the heroes were not even able to break Warworld's tendrils.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
And where did that occur? It's a meaningless hyperbole with nothing to prove it.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12825840/t2.jpg.html

Considering they killed and empowered the Galactus Engine, I find that amusing.

BTW, under the same writer a single CCU enslaved hundreds of Celestials.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223216/4870039-celestial+engine.png

And even then, they needed to combine the power of the dying sun to stop the Fault to a pocket universe.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12825840/t2.jpg.html

Considering they killed and empowered the Galactus Engine, I find that amusing.

Where do they kill the Galactus Engine? It collapses along with the rest of the fault. How is Medusa any expert? It is, as you say, meaningless hyperbole.

Originally posted by Galan007
It also appeared as though BB destroyed one of the MAOs while drifting in the Fault:
http://i.imgur.com/bG5au7f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/le2VyGs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mahqQaA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VpTEJ5t.jpg

Why is that relevant? What Medusa says is, as Abhi puts it, meaningless hyperbole. And it shows how powerful BB is and is consistent with him being feared by Vortex.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where do they kill the Galactus Engine? It collapses along with the rest of the fault. How is Medusa any expert? It is, as you say, meaningless hyperbole.
It is destroyed by Death but MAOs lived through her attacks.

That alone should tell you who was more powerful.

But yeah, the agent was more powerful than the masters who actually killed it in the first place and have been directly stated to be more powerful.

Because that makes perfect sense. Somehow.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Why is that relevant? What Medusa says is, as Abhi puts it, meaningless hyperbole. And it shows how powerful BB is and is consistent with him being feared by Vortex.



Black Bolt is more powerful than Galactus!!!

Originally posted by abhilegend


Black Bolt is more powerful than Galactus!!!

As shown, Galactus is never defeated in that battle. The MOAs do kill Aegis.

http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1326314-aliens.jpg



Not sure why you are trying to nitpick through who created who, etc. The power levels shown are clear. The Engine would stomp. Occam's Razor.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
As shown, Galactus is never defeated in that battle. The MOAs do kill Aegis.

http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1326314-aliens.jpg

That was Galactus engine and Aegis has been stated to be as powerful as Galactus.

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1070842-annihilation1_029.jpg



That Galactus engine was below Elder Gods and below universal abstracts like Death or Kismet and hence B13?

The engine would get stomped. Clear cut. No amount of whining would change that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was Galactus engine and Aegis has been stated to be as powerful as Galactus.

http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/53235/1070842-annihilation1_029.jpg



That Galactus engine was below Elder Gods and below universal abstracts like Death or Kismet and hence B13?

The engine would get stomped. Clear cut. No amount of whining would change that.

The Galactus Engine is specifically stated to be a response to the cosmics, whom they are unable to respond to before. So the Engine is more powerful. It's described as a weaponized Galactus fighting the cosmics on a level the others cannot perceive. Braniac is outclassed even when you cry more. Good, good.

Kismet runs and hides from the Skyfather level Dominus who is defeated by Superman who is able to block his power by meditating.

It was explicitly stated that the MAOs were larger and more powerful than the GE:
http://i.imgur.com/AQsVgOJ.jpg

I'm not sure why you feel the need to incessantly argue against on-panel evidence, but you need to stop. It borders on trolling at this point.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The Galactus Engine is specifically stated to be a response to the cosmics, whom they are unable to respond to before. So the Engine is more powerful. It's described as a weaponized Galactus fighting the cosmics on a level the others cannot perceive. Braniac is outclassed even when you cry more. Good, good.

This is some A level trolling. Keep it up.



Lords of Order are no mere skyfathers like Galactus. Kismet is embodiment of reality and a bonafide universal abstract.

The galactic engine should win. How easily it wins depends on how much prep b 13th gets.

Like I said, B13 has a week to prep.

This is easy. Is B13 abstract level? Yes? He wins. No? He loses.

^ I'm still waiting to get an answer on this

Originally posted by Cogito
How this goes depends on whether we're using B13 who already has Imperiex's energies

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The Galactus Engine is specifically stated to be a response to the cosmics, whom they are unable to respond to before. So the Engine is more powerful. It's described as a weaponized Galactus fighting the cosmics on a level the others cannot perceive. Braniac is outclassed even when you cry more. Good, good.

Kismet runs and hides from the Skyfather level Dominus who is defeated by Superman who is able to block his power by meditating.

Originally posted by Galan007
It was explicitly stated that the MAOs were larger and more powerful than the GE:
http://i.imgur.com/AQsVgOJ.jpg

I'm not sure why you feel the need to incessantly argue against on-panel evidence, but you need to stop. It borders on trolling at this point.

That's interesting. I present an on panel statement where Galactus flat out says that Diableri endeavors to reshape the universe in his image and would have succeeded had not Galactus killed him and imprisoned Aegis and Tenebrous by his own hands.

Abhi calls it hyperbole and you have no comment on that. Such blatant hypocrisy borders on trolling so let me ask you this question. Did Galactus defeat a being who would have reshaped the universe in his image?

Do we actually see any beings larger than the Galactus Engine? No. Medusa actually doesn't say that anything is larger or more powerful than the Galactus Engine. She says that larger and more powerful "entities" are following behind the assault vanguard. That appears to be a general statement of what is coming out, especially when she had just stated that the GE is the most monstrous threat of all. An "entity" is something that exists independently. The Galactus engine is a machine; a weapon created and controlled by sentient entities that Medusa refers to as "it".

There is enough doubt to that which you assert based on nitpicking a couple of words to not change what is shown in the big picture. We see a monstrously sized threat engaging dozens of celestials along with Galactus, Tenebrous and Aegis in a way that lower beings are unable to comprehend.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lords of Order are no mere skyfathers like Galactus. Kismet is embodiment of reality and a bonafide universal abstract.



But you just lowballed Lord Chaos and Master Order and said that Galactus beating them is unimpressive.

What has Lord Chaos/ MO done?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Do we actually see any beings larger than the Galactus Engine? No. Medusa actually doesn't say that anything is larger or more powerful than the Galactus Engine. She says that larger and more powerful "entities" are following behind the assault vanguard. That appears to be a general statement of what is coming out, especially when she had just stated that the GE is the most monstrous threat of all. An "entity" is something that exists independently. The Galactus engine is a machine; a weapon created and controlled by sentient entities that Medusa refers to as "it".



She says the GE is the largest thing, and then corrects herself when the sensors pick up the "larger and more powerful" MAOs behind it. That's why there's a break in her sentence - she's relaying new information on the fly (and if that's not proof enough she even says "we are beginning to detect...".

And you're grossly overreading into the word "entities" to fit your blatantly skewed perspective.

Originally posted by Zack M
What has Lord Chaos/ MO done?

They are lords of order, as Abhi mentions. He says that puts them above Galactus. So Galactus beating them is impressive right?

Edited

Originally posted by Zack M
What has Lord Chaos/ MO done? they fought thanos with the infinity gauntlet and lost (but so did mephisto, the celestials, hate and love, and ego, so that isn't really a low end feat), and they also created the in-betweener (who is capable of fighting Galactus).Originally posted by Cogito
^ I'm still waiting to get an answer on this IYO, would that change the outcome of this fight?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Well can you present an image of one these LARGER entities being defeated?

Of course not, they never went through the breach because Galactus held off the Engine long enough for Thanos to bring Death back to the Cancerverse.

What are you getting at?

Originally posted by deathslash
IYO, would that change the outcome of this fight?
Absolutely. B13 with Imperiex's energies remade the universe in his computerized image. That is >>> GE

Originally posted by Cogito


She says the GE is the largest thing, and then corrects herself when the sensors pick up the "larger and more powerful" MAOs behind it. That's why there's a break in her sentence - she's relaying new information on the fly (and if that's not proof enough she even says "we are beginning to detect...".

And you're grossly overreading into the word "entities" to fit your blatantly skewed perspective.

You know, I will actually give you that point. My trepidations resulted from never seeing any larger entities. But in scanning the issue, it appears that the larger entities following the GE never make it through the fault before Death kills Mar-Vell.

Originally posted by Cogito
Of course not, they never went through the breach because Galactus held off the Engine long enough for Thanos to bring Death back to the Cancerverse.

What are you getting at?

I was thinking as if they were among the ones who made it through, and were being engaged by the defending forces, none of which were even remotely as big. But there being unseen entities that never make it through before the fault collapses makes more sense and fits more with what she says. So I stand corrected. Thanks!

Originally posted by deathslash
they fought thanos with the infinity gauntlet and lost (but so did mephisto, the celestials, hate and love, and ego, so that isn't really a low end feat), and they also created the in-betweener (who is capable of fighting Galactus). IYO, would that change the outcome of this fight?

Not very impressive battle feats.

Originally posted by Cogito
Absolutely. B13 with Imperiex's energies remade the universe in his computerized image. That is >>> GE

Is this a follow-up to the end up WWIII showing the universe created by being boom tubed to the big bang?

Originally posted by Cogito
Of course not, they never went through the breach because Galactus held off the Engine long enough for Thanos to bring Death back to the Cancerverse.

What are you getting at?


Absolutely. B13 with Imperiex's energies remade the universe in his computerized image. That is >>> GE

B13 could probably take over the GE.

Galactus Engine.

Originally posted by Glorificus
Galactus Engine.

Originally posted by abhilegend

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12825840/t2.jpg.html

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hyperbole
Originally posted by abhilegend

BTW, under the same writer a single CCU enslaved hundreds of Celestials.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223216/4870039-celestial+engine.png



A single CCU became Eternity

A single CCU gave every hero and villain Godhood plus a private universe each to enjoy.

A single CCU imploded the entire Omniverse, then rebuilt it with a thought.

etc, etc etc ...

Originally posted by abhilegend
BTW, under the same writer a single CCU enslaved hundreds of Celestials.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223216/4870039-celestial+engine.png

And even then, they needed to combine the power of the dying sun to stop the Fault to a pocket universe.



The amazing thing about this is that this occurs in an alternate future and you are the same guy who is first in line to discount a feat from an alternate future when it suits you. And no one has yet to to inform you that "it doesn't work like that bud".

Originally posted by Glorificus
Galactus Engine.

How?

Originally posted by Zack M
How?

Much more powerful.

On a side note, Medusa doesn't describe the MAOs as being bigger and more powerful. She states that bigger and more powerful entities are following the Galactus Engine. Those entities never have a chance to enter the fault before the Cancerverse collapses, thus are never shown on panel. So we don't know what they are or how they look.

I wouldn't say much more powerful.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's interesting. I present an on panel statement where Galactus flat out says that Diableri endeavors to reshape the universe in his image and would have succeeded had not Galactus killed him and imprisoned Aegis and Tenebrous by his own hands.

Because there wasn't anybody to oppose him. Neither Tenebrous nor Aegis anywhere showed power enough to affect a solar system much less the ****ing universe.



No. A statement from Galactus doesn't makes you universal.



Haha, seriously?



Yes, skyfather fights. Odin and Galactus' fight happened the same way.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
But you just lowballed Lord Chaos and Master Order and said that Galactus beating them is unimpressive.
Lifebringer Galactus is a lot more powerful than regular Galactus.

And Lord Chaos and Master order are entirely featless except creating In Betweener.

Originally posted by Cogito
Of course not, they never went through the breach because Galactus held off the Engine long enough for Thanos to bring Death back to the Cancerverse.

What are you getting at?


Absolutely. B13 with Imperiex's energies remade the universe in his computerized image. That is >>> GE
Correction, B13 remade the universe in his image on his own while fighting Imperiex throughout a thousand million vectors throughout all timelines.

http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634742_Young_Justice_Drafted_31_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634743_Young_Justice_Drafted_32_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634744_Young_Justice_Drafted_33_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634745_Young_Justice_Drafted_34_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634746_Young_Justice_Drafted_35_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634747_Young_Justice_Drafted_36_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634748_Young_Justice_Drafted_37_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29634749_Young_Justice_Drafted_38_CitizenPain-DCP.jpg

He was also shredding through DCU timeline without any effort.

http://i.imgur.com/ag1C2oJ.jpg

Heck, his name was Ravager of Timelines. A step or two above Ravager of Worlds.

Originally posted by Mr Master


A single CCU became Eternity

So around Kismet level give or take? Good.



Alternate universe? Cool. Its almost Mordru level then.



Non canon crossover.



Yes, CCU makes you universal and it has owned hundreds of Celestials. Good to know.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The amazing thing about this is that this occurs in an alternate future and you are the same guy who is first in line to discount a feat from an alternate future when it suits you. And no one has yet to to inform you that "it doesn't work like that bud".
Alternate future. But the same CCU was brought in the real 616 universe and was only useful for creating a gateway to 616 universe from Cancerverse.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
On a side note, Medusa doesn't describe the MAOs as being bigger and more powerful. She states that bigger and more powerful entities are following the Galactus Engine. Those entities never have a chance to enter the fault before the Cancerverse collapses, thus are never shown on panel. So we don't know what they are or how they look. You can't be serious. none

The entire story was centered around Mar-Vell prepping 616 for his "masters"(the MAOs) to overtake it. They were literally the only beings Medusa could have been referring to.

Additionally, after Marv summoned one of the MAOs against Thanos, it was explicitly stated that "some kind of energy source just went off the scales in the Cancerverse"... And that statement came from a being who had been monitoring the battle against the GE.


Suffice to say: MAOs > GE. It's right there on panel... Don't be willfully obtuse. There are already enough trolls here. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
You can't be serious. none

The entire story was centered around Mar-Vell prepping 616 for his "masters"(the MAOs) to overtake it. They were literally the only beings Medusa could have been referring to.

Additionally, after Marv summoned one of the MAOs against Thanos, it was explicitly stated that "some kind of energy source just went off the scales in the Cancerverse"... And that statement came from a being who had been monitoring the battle against the GE.


Suffice to say: MAOs > GE. It's right there on panel... Don't be willfully obtuse. There are already enough trolls here. srsly

That's nonsense. The energy spike coincides with Mar-Vell shoving the sword into Thanos during the necropsy ritual. The MOA that grabs Thanos is present the issue before. Why would the spike not be noticed then if it is the source? What did you believe the spike comes from?

Gladiator, Surfer and the other Anihilators are battling MOAs who have left the Cancerverse and entered 616 all the way from issue one, so clearly Medusa is referring to subsequent war making entities that are meant to follow-up the GA's attack, but never get the chance to enter the fault and are never seen by the readers. Show an instant where an entity is shown larger than the GE.

You can't just make things up. It doesn't work that way.

Ah, so you are trolling just to troll.

Well have fun with that. No reason for me to indulge such childish behavior any further.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ah, so you are trolling just to troll.

Well have fun with that. No reason for me to indulge such childish behavior any further.

That's a non-reply. I have given you details and you cry "troll" repeatedly. If I'm a troll the chips will fall where they may without your need to try and convince the world to share your childish projections and hypocrisies. Debate the details and keep the ad hominems out.

Who were these other entities which were never mentioned before or after, separate from MAOs?

Originally posted by abhilegend

So around Kismet level give or take? Good.
That CCU was literally limited in its range of influence, so I guess.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Alternate universe? Cool. Its almost Mordru level then.
AU? .. uhh, using the 616 CCU? Absolutely cool.

So, Mordru can turn every hero and villain on Earth into a God,
and also give every said God of Earth an individual private universe to fulfill Godhood dreams.

He's bad ass.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Non canon crossover.
Except that it involved the 616 reality, plus 616 Iron Man, plus the 616 CCU.

Next.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, CCU makes you universal
facepalm ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
That CCU was literally limited in its range of influence, so I guess.


Yes, of course.

Yes, AU. It's from Ultimate Universe.

And what did these Gods actually do?



Yes, he is.

Plus non canon crossover.





I'm sure in your version of comics CCU is omniversal, IG is multi omniversal, HOTU is multi mega omniversal and so on.

It's too bad, marvel doesn't sees it that way.

Originally posted by abhilegend

I'm sure in your version of comics CCU is omniversa
He's not joking. The omniversal feat he's talking about was even mentioned in the Handbooks.

^^ ... Don't bother though, homie thinks we're discussing the "Ultimate Universe." ...
Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, AU. It's from Ultimate Universe.
Always posting without knowing WTF yur talking about.

"Ultimate Universe?" ... ... I've never even read an "ultimate universe" story.
Originally posted by abhilegend

And what did these Gods actually do?
Be God of their own private universe.

That CCU was labeled: "God in a box" ... literally.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Plus non canon crossover.
Yet, it involved, the 616 reality, 616 Iron Man, and the 616 CCU.

Troll on.

Originally posted by zopzop
He's not joking. The omniversal feat he's talking about was even mentioned in the Handbooks.
I'm sure video game adaptations are out of continuity. But hey, you can always count Shuma Gorath from Marvel vs Capcom canon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ ... Don't bother though, homie thinks we're discussing the "Ultimate Universe." ...

Always posting without knowing WTF yur talking about.

"Ultimate Universe?" ... ... I've never even read an "ultimate universe" story.

Oh you know, EARTH-9977 and all that shit. And its Paradise X. Again with non canon shit like this?

And those pocket realities were just created in Negative Zone



And CCU was still below Eternity (Reed).



Video game adaptations are not canon. No matter in how many bios they are indexed.

To my knowledge, the events of 'The Chaos Engine Trilogy'(a novelization) were mentioned in Handbooks. The events of the 'Iron Man/X-O Manowar' crossover were not.

And in Chaos Engine, CCU wasn't able to warp the reality on a universal scale and hence merged the realities with each other. It created a domino effect which endangered the omniverse.

Not that the CCU was omniversal.

I recall Marvunapp stating that the crossover involved Earth-616.

Who gives a shit about marvunapp?

^^ Marvel Comics does .. and that's all that matters.

Marvunapp is operated and owned by the Head/Director of ALL the Official Marvel HandbookS since 2004.

Damn ... will it always be a clueless post?

Or rather, READ the book dude and stop relying on wiki synopsis for info.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Oh you know, EARTH-9977 and all that shit.
... I never seen or heard of Earth-9977
Originally posted by abhilegend

And its Paradise X. Again with non canon shit like this?
It's as canon as your Badoon bullshit which took place in an alternate Future.

Actually, it's more "canon" since it was literally a 616 CCU running the show.
Originally posted by abhilegend

And those pocket realities were just created in Negative Zone
That CCU gave every hero and villain on Earth a private cosmos each to enjoy Godhood.

Next.
Originally posted by abhilegend

And CCU was still below Eternity (Reed).
Scans?

Wait,
Originally posted by abhilegend

Video game adaptations are not canon.
I don't give a phuk how much you ignore proof.

616 Reality was involved in the story.

Troll on.
Originally posted by abhilegend

And in Chaos Engine,
CCU wasn't able to warp the reality on a universal scale
and hence merged the realities with each other.

It created a domino effect which endangered the omniverse.

Bull shit ... utter bull shit!

That CCU took 4 entire UniverseS (one of which was 616) and merged them.

That CCU warped a dozen UniverseS that surrounded 616.

Then, that CCU began to compress the entire Omniverse.

Then, at the end, a regular man named Leonard Jackson
separated the 4 universeS and placed the other 3 in their proper place in the Omniverse.

Then, the 12 universeS that were warped into crazy were re-warped to normality.

Then, the entire Omniverse was de-compressed to normality likewise.

ol' Leonard did all that with a thought.

----------------------------

So ... Troll on.

Originally posted by Galan007
The events of the 'Iron Man/X-O Manowar' crossover were not.
I could have sworn they were. Does anyone have the CCU Marvel Handbook entry around?

Originally posted by operator616
I recall Marvunapp stating that the crossover involved Earth-616.

Who do you think wins, Op? B13 with prep.

Originally posted by zopzop
I could have sworn they were. Does anyone have the CCU Marvel Handbook entry around?
http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/29659920_All-New_OHOTMU_A-Z_03_05.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/29659921_All-New_OHOTMU_A-Z_03_06.jpg http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/29659922_All-New_OHOTMU_A-Z_03_07.jpg

I see the JLA/Avengers crossover ambiguously mentioned on the bottom of the second page, and the events of the Chaos Engine novelization mentioned on the third page(outlined in red.) I don't see the Iron Man/X-O crossover mentioned anywhere in the bio, though. Am I overlooking it?

Originally posted by Zack M
Who do you think wins, Op? B13 with prep.

I believe Cogito's response was spot on.

Originally posted by Cogito

How this goes depends on whether we're using B13 who already has Imperiex's energies (stomp) or not (highly debatable).

Although I think if he doesn't, the galactus engine would win.

Originally posted by operator616
I believe Cogito's response was spot on.



Although I think if he doesn't, the galactus engine would win.

Did he create the universe in his own image using the Imperiex energies?

I don't think any specifics regarding *the how* were ever given. All we know is that he *did*.

But remember: B13 himself was also at his most vulnerable in that extremity of time -- that's probably why Imperiex only sent a single Probe to engage him. /shrug

Thanks. How long did B 13 have the Imperiex energies? Or was it just a one off thing?

Golgo is trolling and the engine wins

Originally posted by carver9
Golgo is trolling and the engine wins

Stop trolling, Carv.

Originally posted by Zack M
Stop trolling, Carv. Brainiac 13 wins

Originally posted by Zack M
Thanks. How long did B 13 have the Imperiex energies? Or was it just a one off thing? He acquired the *full* power of Imperiex in Superman #173, and retained it until his death in Action Comics #782.

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ Marvel Comics does .. and that's all that matters.

If they had, they would've included it somewhere. Not that it matters. Video game adaptations are not canon. Period.



Who gives a shit?



Again with meaningless drivel?





Ah, Its Earth 9997. Aka Earth X.



And the same cube was transported into Earth 616 and did nothing close to universal level.



No, it is not.



Haha, seriously? It was just a dream. Not an entire reality was created.

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/29660174_RCO022_1467538720.jpg

It was shown as them being contained on their own dreams as well.

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t1/29660183_pdgmeeh-003.jpg

And Paradise was located into an anti matter sun and with its expansion it was breaking moons. In months.

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/29660176_RCO027_1467538379.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/29660175_RCO025_w_1467538379.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/29660173_RCO015_1467538720.jpg

You have a gross misunderstanding of what creating an entire reality actually means.



Don't tell me you haven't actually read Paradise X.





What proof?



Show a single proof of such.



Only because it couldn't create a universe as per Doom or Magneto or Skull's wishes.



N, it didn't.



Never happened. It was a domino effect which was contracting omniverse.



Yes, he stopped the destabiliation and that's what stopped the omniverse being ****ed up.





Yes due to the universes being brought back to normal. Entire omniverse wasn't warped.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29659922/All-New_OHOTMU_A-Z_03_07.jpg.html

Read and weep.



Still below universal level.



Cry more.

Engine wins, period.

Originally posted by Zack M
Did he create the universe in his own image using the Imperiex energies?

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think any specifics regarding *the how* were ever given. All we know is that he *did*.

But remember: B13 himself was also at his most vulnerable in that extremity of time -- that's probably why Imperiex only sent a single Probe to engage him. /shrug

It was specifically noted that he planned to use the Imperiex energies to reshape the universe.

Originally posted by abhilegend

If they had, they would've included it somewhere.
It's in Marvunapp. I'll get the link.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Who gives a shit?
Oh, so then ... troll on!
Originally posted by abhilegend

And the same cube was transported into Earth 616 and did nothing close to universal level.
Scans?

... Of this alternate Cube TRYING, ... and yet not being able to perform on a universal scale.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Haha, seriously? It was just a dream. Not an entire reality was created.

It was shown as them being contained on their own dreams as well.

And Paradise was located into an anti matter sun and with its expansion it was breaking moons. In months.

You have a gross misunderstanding of what creating an entire reality actually means.
WTF? .. oh, the usual ... trolling and bullshitting at its finest.

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http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14776825_CCU_X1.jpg

"Cosmic Cube ... needed to create a myriad of fantasy worlds ...

to make our hopes & dreams Reality."

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Mar-vell breaks the Cube into candy sized pieces to consume.

You eat a Cube candy, you become a God of your own private Reality.

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14776826_CCU_X2.jpghttp://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14776827_CCU_X3.jpghttp://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14776828_CCU_X4.jpghttp://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/14776829_CCU_X5.jpghttp://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/29666784_X1.jpghttp://s6d1.turboimg.net/t/29666785_X2.jpg

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As for that horse shit LIE that it was "just a dream, blah, blah, I troll" ...

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/29666447_X3.jpg

"These wishes ... they are only dreams, then, that they live. They are asleep."

"NO,

they have each created different RealitieS through pieces of the Cube each consumed.

Each IS AS REAL as the world we came from ....

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Troll on!

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This is an incredible On Panel read about that CCU above ^^^ being GOD!















http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/14776839_CCU_X16.jpg

"How can this be GOD?"

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/14776840_CCU_X17.jpg

"How can I possibly hold GOD in My hand?" ... LOL!

Originally posted by abhilegend

Don't tell me you haven't actually read Paradise X.
Don't tell me you're actually just Trolling? Oh wait, that's all you do, my bad.

Anyway, so, this meaningless retort means you have NO scans that state Reed became more powerful than the CCU.

Same ol' same ol'
Originally posted by abhilegend

Only because it couldn't create a universe as per Doom or Magneto or Skull's wishes.
Actually, the Cube was a baby, and it was flawed, this is why it couldn't "create" from scratch.

But instead, it was able to:

Merge 4 entire universeS,
Warp 12 universeS surrounding 616
Compress the entire Omniverse

Then

Separated the 4 universeS (one being 616) then placing them back in their proper space,
Re-warped a dozen universeS that were surrounding 616, and then,
De-compress the entire Omniverse thereby fixing it's collapse in session.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Never happened. It was a domino effect which was contracting omniverse.

Yes, he stopped the destabiliation and that's what stopped the omniverse being ****ed up.

Yes due to the universes being brought back to normal. Entire omniverse wasn't warped.
Scans?

I have mine, but I'll wait till you eat more of your shit.
Originally posted by abhilegend

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29659922/All-New_OHOTMU_A-Z_03_07.jpg.html

Read and weep.
I'm 'weeping" that the only means of evidence you have is a summarized explanation in a handbook. durlaugh

I mean, THIS is it? ... THIS ... is your proof that gives you such confidence? phukin clown.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Still below universal level.
facepalm

For a guy who claims that he doesn't use bios/handbooks, you sure do cite them a whole lot.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3797374/hippo-juice-o.gif





abhidur

I have no words for ABHI. I truly don't. Masters continuously destroys him in debates along with operator but the guy doesn't give up.

Originally posted by operator616
It was specifically noted that he planned to use the Imperiex energies to reshape the universe. Yes, I know. That was his sole reason for stealing the energy Superman #173. However, I don't recall it being stated that B13 had stolen/used Imperiex's energy to warp the universe in his own image in the Young Justice: OWAW Special. Seems like the implication was that he did so under own power(the fact that he was still actively fighting Imperiex and his Probes is also indicative of such) -- hence why I said the specifics behind "the how" weren't really provided for that feat.

...Or am I misremembering the scene?(too lazy to look for myself, lol.)

Originally posted by Mr Master
It's in Marvunapp. I'll get the link.

Nobody gives a shit about Marvunapp.



It needed to be charged by nova to just open a gateway from Cancerverse to 616 universe.

****ing weaksauce.





So just copy/pasting, huh? That's from Paradise X 0 where Mar-Vell tricked the heroes and villains alike in eating the shards and trapping them. Fast forward to Paradise X X and its revealed as nothing but a dream.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29660174/RCO022_1467538720.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/29660174/RCO022_1467538720.jpg.html

It can't be any clearer than that. FFS, they are carrying all the heroes and villains in a pod.

But hey, those were pocket universe pods.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Don't tell me you're actually just Trolling? Oh wait, that's all you do, my bad.

All I see is your whining anytime someone calls on your bullshit.



He became omnicient and broke all the heroes from their dreams.

So yes he was more powerful than the CCU.



No, it couldn't warp the entire universe. Hence stacking the universes.



The CCU stacked the universes which then started a domino effect on omniverse.

Nothing more.



None of that happened. Except separating the universes which fixed the damage to the universe.



Are you seriously asking me to post scans from a ****ing novel?

Why don't you post the "scans" where the cube affected the whole omniverse?

You have done nothing to post any "scans". Just posting random nonsense as usual.




I'll wait.




And you have, nothing? Guess which one is better?



GTFO you buffoon and come at me with actual proof.

Originally posted by carver9
I have no words for ABHI. I truly don't. Masters continuously destroys him in debates along with operator but the guy doesn't give up. Originally posted by celeyhyga17
For a guy who claims that he doesn't use bios/handbooks, you sure do cite them a whole lot.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3797374/hippo-juice-o.gif





abhidur
You two done trolling?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You two done trolling?
Check the mirror brah before you go around using that word.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, I know. That was his sole reason for stealing the energy Superman #173. However, I don't recall it being stated that B13 had stolen/used Imperiex's energy to warp the universe in his own image in the Young Justice: OWAW Special. Seems like the implication was that he did so under own power(the fact that he was still actively fighting Imperiex and his Probes is also indicative of such) -- hence why I said the specifics behind "the how" weren't really provided for that feat.

...Or am I misremembering the scene?(too lazy to look for myself, lol.)

Nah, I rechecked the instance. You were right on that one.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nobody gives a shit about Marvunapp.

Apparently you did when you used it to try and prove the Fear Eaters power.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Check the mirror brah before you go around using that word.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

For a guy who claims that he doesn't use bios/handbooks, you sure do cite them a whole lot.

abhidur

Originally posted by operator616
Nah, I rechecked the instance. You were right on that one.

Pretty impressive, either way.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Who gives a shit about marvunapp?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=632165&pagenumber=5
Originally posted by abhilegend

Nobody gives a shit about Marvunapp.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=632165&pagenumber=6

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Now that's an interesting message coming from you.

You've been advertising/exercising Marvunapp for YearS ... consistently I might add.

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(2012)

Originally posted by abhilegend

Nope, I did't see anything that means it was just a story. Here is some info on one of the villains in the story

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/manduumtio.htm
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563519&pagenumber=4

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(2013)

Originally posted by abhilegend

I'm not joking guys, Chicken Cow battled Hulk for weeks non-stop.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/chtylok.htm

How many characters can do that?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=586228&pagenumber=2

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(2014)

Originally posted by abhilegend

http://i.imgur.com/Amq1SBH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qisztv5.jpg

But then, Huntara comments on the explosion.

http://i.imgur.com/Va4Emd5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JtKhD4h.jpg

"That light within the southern most sky.....An anti-matter implosion."

Also the Elsewhen dimension wasn't destroyed.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/vangaard.htm
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14773402

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(2015)

Originally posted by abhilegend

Here your trusted site Marvunapp informs us that Quasar went into the same reality

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/earthkorvacconquers.htm

I win.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=614883&pagenumber=3

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.. troll be troll ... quintessential example ... facepalm

For info on characters.

Not to prove a story is canon or not.

Even you can't be that obtuse.

facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend

The CCU stacked the universes which then started a domino effect on omniverse.

Nothing more.

None of that happened.

Except separating the universes which fixed the damage to the universe.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Are you seriously asking me to post scans from a ****ing novel?

Why don't you post the "scans" where the cube affected the whole omniverse?
Originally posted by abhilegend

You have done nothing to post any "scans".

Just posting random nonsense as usual.

GTFO you buffoon and come at me with actual proof.
I claimed the Cosmic Cube had stacked universeS on top of each other.

That's an incredible feat yall.

The Cube was finding specific universeS from the "multitude of choices in the Omniverse."

By this point it had stacked two universeS on top of 616:

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679478_A.jpg

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In this story,

Roma is written like a true Supreme Omniversal Guardian, a cosmic powerhouse.
(but she has a power source and that's the Starlight Citadel ... grants her power over the Omniverse)

The Cosmic Cube is also written to its true potential. Omniversal! But the Cube, since it was flawed, was difficult to control.
This is why always cunning Doom, and also Red Skull, using the Cube, opt to try and steal Roma's power source.

Both Roma, and the Cosmic Cube, had power over the life-force of all universeS in the Omniverse.
This is WHY the Cosmic Cube had the power to slowly compress the ENTIRE Omniverse!!!

"This ... was the true source of Roma's - and, ultimately, Doom's power: the life-force of countless parallel universeS" ...

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679479_A1.jpg

"Countless Parallel universeS ... each separated by a curtain ...

... the curtains were now apparently decaying,
the spaces between Parallel Worlds growing smaller ...
the cause of it all ... the Cosmic Cube" ...

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I claimed the Cube had warped the universeS surrounding 616. (I said a dozen)

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679480_A2.jpg

... "one crystal" (616 universe) "in particular ... the surface of this sliver was darkened, from the inside.
A fair number of its neighbors were showing similar discoloration.

... realized the blackened quartz must be the source ... threat to the omniverse ... Earth 616."

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Extra confirmation the Cube had warped MORE than 616:

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679481_A4.jpg

"limited time we have left to reverse the Cube's effects ...

... it's too late ... the infection has already spread to other realitieS."

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Here's proof the Starlight Citadel (Roma's power-source) granted Omniversal control as I claimed up top:

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679482_A5.jpg
http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679483_A6.jpg

Roma: "I will never allow you to control the citadel, or to use its powers to rule your world."

Doom: "Why would Doom be interested in one world, when he could become master of them all?"

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Extra confirmation the Citadel grants Omniversal power:

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679484_A7.jpg

Red Skull: "a gleaming palace at the center of reality ... one to which all dimensionS are joined ...

... to rule not just one, but countless dimensionS.

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I claimed Leonard Jackson, w/Cube, separated the 4 universeS and returned them to the Omniverse.
Re-warped the universeS surrounding 616 which were warped themselves,
stopped the omniversal collapse
then fixed the Omniverse altogether.

He did all this in two moves. LOL!

First ... Jean tried and failed, cause it was killing her:

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679486_A8.jpg

"She made a wish, for Worlds" (4 universeS)

to return to their rightful places" (across the omniverse)

"For the fabric of time and space" (omniverse) "to be repaired"


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Then, Leonard Jackson, knowing the strain would kill him, succeeded:

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/29679488_A9.jpg

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Troll on!

Originally posted by Mr Master
I claimed the Cosmic Cube had stacked universeS on top of each other.

The CCU only did it for the planet only.

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29684002_Mastertheidiot1.jpg

Its clearly stated that a fully formed cube can restructure the planet. But as the CCU was flawed, it merged the different planets.



"Three different earths trying to occupy the same space."

Where is the universe merging you're talking about?



Grants her power over the omniverse? What are you talking about? She had the crystals which her grandfather had built and which allowed her to destroy a reality.

She was not powered by the ****ing omniverse you goon.



Hey idiot, CCU was flat out stated to be planetary in power several times.

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29684002_Mastertheidiot1.jpg

All it did was create a reality cancer which threatened to weaken the barriers between the realities and destroy the omniverse.

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29684001_Mastertheidiot.jpg

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29684002_Mastertheidiot1.jpg

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/29684003_Mastertheidiot2.jpg


And Doom with Roma's power was beaten by Captain Britain Corps.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t1/29684012_Mastertheidiot3.jpg





In form of crystals. Not in her own power.



Crystals you goon. The power wasn't flowing through her.



Yes, a reality cancer. A planetary bomb also threatened to do that.

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/29684014_Mastertheidiot5.jpg

Read and weep.

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It didn't warp the parallel dimensions. It created a reality cancer which was causing all that trouble.

But let me know where it even warped a whole universe before you start harping about dozens of universes.



Yes, the reality cancer. Not warping of universes or shit like that.




Haha, seriously? Those are due to the crystals which housed the life forces of realities. Not that it was an omniversal power in one spot.



Yes, it Rock of Eternity lite. It doesn't give you omniversal power however.



Those are literally worlds aka Earths. Not universes. And that's Betsy not jean.

Did you even read it or just searched cube in Adobe Reader? Here is the full page.

http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/29684015_Mastertheidiot6.jpg




He literally separated the three earths that were joined. Not universes.




Oh you simple minded buffoon. Got any more claims I need to destroy?

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Phuckin idiot ...
you try and debate Marvel cosmic shit with me
and don't even know when Marvel is interchanging the terms universes with Earths/Worlds?

The "cancer" was the Cube itself spreading its warp to the surrounding universeS.

616 Universe was WARPED numbnuts,
or do you think it's normal to have 1-2 and then 3 universeS on top of it?

durlaugh

The rest of your mushed misconstrued/misinterpreted info and calculated lies is just pure gobbledygook.

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I've had it with your TROLL shit! Enough is enough.

Yes, most of us get sucked into this delusional twisted madness you think is "debating," but that's it.

The tireless low-balling,
the consistent bull shit ...
the cockish attitude,
it's become boring due to its predictability.

You're a clown troll, always have been, and it's never gonna end.
All the true debaters know the truth and facts about you, and they all feel the same.

I'm done putting up with your nonsense. Ahh. welcome to the ignore list.

I don't give a phuk (never really did) about what you post or think.
Actually never really did, just wanted to show the public how you were always full of shit.

But, we all know that already so I'm just wasting my time.

You were ... slightly entertaining, laughable at-least at times. stoned

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Phuckin idiot ...
you try and debate Marvel cosmic shit with me
and don't even know when Marvel is interchanging the terms universes with Earths/Worlds?


That's DC. And no, they Never stated that the cube affected universe. In fact it was stated as planetary level only.

Gnashing your teeth wouldn't change anything buffoon.

No, it wasn't. It was a domino effect. Just like a planetary bomb which did it earlier.



Universes weren't stacked on each other. Only three planets were. Explicitly stated.

Concession accepted simpleton.

Concession accepted. Again.

Run away from me master. That's what you always do and the only thing you're capable of.

What a punkass whiner.

Originally posted by iceman24567
B13


Originally posted by RadZoa
B13 ... with minimal effort