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Rate the next fighters from best to worst. this is not only about individual fighting skills but overall their ability to overcome the other. no equipment just standard H2H fighting.

1.Daredevil
2.Batman
3.Black Panther
4.Broze Tiger
5.Deathstroke
6.Captain America
7.Wild Cat
8.Shang Chi
9.Gorgon
10.Mister X

Please rate my list

Listed by skill
10. Mister X
9. Deathstroke
8. Wildcat
7. Gorgon
6. Black Panther
5. Bronze Tiger
4. Daredevil
3. Captain America
2. Batman
1. Shang Chi

If it's about who would be able to beat all the others in 1v1, then Gorgon is at the top of the list.

Originally posted by deathslash
Listed by skill
10. Mister X
9. Deathstroke
8. Wildcat
7. Gorgon
6. Black Panther
5. Bronze Tiger
4. Daredevil
3. Captain America
2. Batman
1. Shang Chi

If it's about who would be able to beat all the others in 1v1, then Gorgon is at the top of the list.

and where would you place daredevil in such case?

Originally posted by Dareangel
and where would you place daredevil in such case? probably around five or six. Gorgon would be number one, followed by Shang chi, deathstroke/panther/cap, and batman/daredevil.

Wildcat more skilled than Deathstroke? Lol.

Batman/Cap are #1 for me. Closely followed by Shang/Gorgon.

Originally posted by Zack M
Wildcat more skilled than Deathstroke? Lol.

Batman/Cap are #1 for me. Closely followed by Shang/Gorgon. and who has the all mighty deathstroke beaten without the use of a healing factor, enhanced stats, no weapons, and no armor? Fact of the matter is that wildcat has beaten Grundy with nothing other than his fists.

Shang actually fights his opponents without any amping though. Through the use of his chi and skill he's blocked a punch from a bloodlusted heroim, survived a punch that sent him skyrocketing into the clouds, roundhouse kicked red hulk into a mountain, and actually had gorgon on the ropes. Out of all the people on this list, he uses skill the most often and without any other gadgets.

Originally posted by deathslash
and who has the all mighty deathstroke beaten without the use of a healing factor, enhanced stats, no weapons, and no armor? Fact of the matter is that wildcat has beaten Grundy with nothing other than his fists.

Shang actually fights his opponents without any amping though. Through the use of his chi and skill he's blocked a punch from a bloodlusted heroim, survived a punch that sent him skyrocketing into the clouds, roundhouse kicked red hulk into a mountain, and actually had gorgon on the ropes. Out of all the people on this list, he uses skill the most often and without any other gadgets.


And Batman fought KK twice without any gadgets. The first time he was on the losing end, but KK is much more skilled than any on this list.

Kind of hard to pinpoint Slade, but he has went up against Grayson, Cassandra, etc...

Wtf shouldn't gorgon and Mr.x be 1 and 2 respectively?

They know what their opponents intend on doing

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Wtf shouldn't gorgon and Mr.x be 1 and 2 respectively?

They know what their opponents intend on doing no, gorgon doesn't know what his opponent will do next, or else he wouldn't have had trouble with iron fist or shang chi, or gotten knocked out by daredevil. Also, this is a list of skill buddy. Gorgon and Mr X are skilled for sure, but not even remotely on the level of anyone here.Originally posted by Zack M
And Batman fought KK twice without any gadgets. The first time he was on the losing end, but KK is much more skilled than any on this list.

Kind of hard to pinpoint Slade, but he has went up against Grayson, Cassandra, etc... and anybody with any form of common sense would know that batman managing to hold his own against val for even a second is BS. Unless you're prepared to argue that batman can unearth a building covered in ice with a single punch, throw a day daxmite out of a solar system, karate chop a spaceship in half or do anything even remotely that impressive with sheer martial arts, don't bring up such an obvious attempt by DC to keep their flagship character looking good.

Yes, but in those occurrences, he still had his super soldier serum active. Also, in the showing with Cassandra, she outright schooled his daughter while also having to deal with him.

Originally posted by deathslash
no, gorgon doesn't know what his opponent will do next, or else he wouldn't have had trouble with iron fist or shang chi, or gotten knocked out by daredevil. Also, this is a list of skill buddy. Gorgon and Mr X are skilled for sure, but not even remotely on the level of anyone here. and anybody with any form of common sense would know that batman managing to hold his own against val for even a second is BS. Unless you're prepared to argue that batman can unearth a building covered in ice with a single punch, throw a day daxmite out of a solar system, karate chop a spaceship in half or do anything even remotely that impressive with sheer martial arts, don't bring up such an obvious attempt by DC to keep their flagship character looking good.

Yes, but in those occurrences, he still had his super soldier serum active. Also, in the showing with Cassandra, she outright schooled his daughter while also having to deal with him.

Can't ignore it because you don't like it. And Batman just one shot Solomon grundy.

Hard to say if slade heavily relied on the serum or his hth skills.

Originally posted by Zack M
Can't ignore it because you don't like it. And Batman just one shot Solomon grundy.

Hard to say if slade heavily relied on the serum or his hth skills. you can when it's obvious PIS. If batman were to punch god in the face and cause him to bleed because of it, does that mean that he can now beat on gods or does that mean it's a supreme show of PIS? Yeah, he picked him up and threw him to the ground. When when has using your opponent's weight, momentum, and speed against them been that impressive? Also, Grundy fluctuates a lot and before you try to suggest that wildcat's showing against him isn't impressive, he's also fought gentleman ghost, the new wildcat, and the injustice society.

He still had his armor, his weapons, and his serum. Show me a feat in which he beats someone impressive without any of that.

Originally posted by deathslash
and who has the all mighty deathstroke beaten without the use of a healing factor, enhanced stats, no weapons, and no armor? Fact of the matter is that wildcat has beaten Grundy with nothing other than his fists.

Shang actually fights his opponents without any amping though. Through the use of his chi and skill he's blocked a punch from a bloodlusted heroim, survived a punch that sent him skyrocketing into the clouds, roundhouse kicked red hulk into a mountain, and actually had gorgon on the ropes. Out of all the people on this list, he uses skill the most often and without any other gadgets.
Slade has twoshotted Nightwing at half strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nightwing can take on Deathstroke.

http://oi63.tinypic.com/2wr0rhd.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStroke-014-08.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStroke-014-09.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStroke-014-10.jpg

Right.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Slade has oneshotted Nightwing at half strength. thank you. Now that's something that could actually be used. Do you have scans?

Posted above.

Originally posted by deathslash
you can when it's obvious PIS. If batman were to punch god in the face and cause him to bleed because of it, does that mean that he can now beat on gods or does that mean it's a supreme show of PIS? Yeah, he picked him up and threw him to the ground. When when has using your opponent's weight, momentum, and speed against them been that impressive? Also, Grundy fluctuates a lot and before you try to suggest that wildcat's showing against him isn't impressive, he's also fought gentleman ghost, the new wildcat, and the injustice society.

He still had his armor, his weapons, and his serum. Show me a feat in which he beats someone impressive without any of that.

KK isn't God, nowhere near, so I don't know why you used that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Posted above. alright then, it's obvious that Slade is still enhanced by the serum but the portion about it only being half as strong as before does speak well about him and his ability to fight. It should also be noted though, that Slade at full strength has struggled with batman before as well as night wing but that little scuffle did speak rather well about his h2h skill. I still stand by the thought that Ted (who has no powers) is above him in pure skill though. Do you have an opinion on what you think the list would look like?
Originally posted by Zack M
KK isn't God, nowhere near, so I don't know why you used that. And yet he's fought kryptonians, daxamites, and a whole host of other villains with nothing other than sheer skill. If you believe that the fights that they've had against each other are usable, then you clearly must think that batman is capable of at least doing things that are similar to what kk can do.

Slade is more skilled than Ted. No doubt about it.

who people think is more skilled. slade or daredevil?

Daredevil