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Darksied
Despero
Doomsday
Superboy Prime

Batman 200 ?

A 100 overall, or strength?

^^^a question never asked in any other thread of this type.

Darksied-200
Despero-150
Doomsday-150
Superboy Prime-175

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^a question never asked in any other thread of this type.

Darksied-200
Despero-150
Doomsday-150
Superboy Prime-175

Doomsday beat Darkseid, bro.

Superman of Earth 1 and Earth 2, both ko'd Doomsday in a few hits, when working together. The same Supermen were barely able to pool enough strength to slam Superboy Prime through Rao, to steal his super powers. Even then, SBP still beat Superman of Earth 2 to death. So he's certainly above Doomsday, Darkseid, and Superman.

Superman-100
Doomsday-100(Can grow with reactive adaptation)
Darkseid-100(Superman has beaten him solo before, when bloodlusted)
Superboy Prime-200, at least. He's honestly much stronger than the majority of Superman incantations. He's PC Superman level.
Despero-Haven't seen enough of him to gauge.

Superman 100, then

Darkseid - 120 (he is strnoger than superman, although not by so much that superman can't beat him with his superior strength

Doomsday - 103 (slightly stronger than superman) in regular verison, while 165 in HP version

Despero - 183 (far stronger than a superman, can handle two supermen at once)

Superboy prime - 175 (2 supermen slightly overpowered him with strategic teamwork and pushed him to red sun).
Superman prime (guardian amp) - 300

You know it, playah.

Darksied - 110

Despero - 150

Doomsday - 120

Superboy Prime - 200

GA Prime is - 300

Thanos - 110

hell yeah i just brought Thanos into this. lets go

Originally posted by Dareangel
Darksied - 110

Despero - 150

Doomsday - 120

Superboy Prime - 200

GA Prime is - 300

Thanos - 110

hell yeah i just brought Thanos into this. lets go

Thanos 110? Then Odin 110? DP Tyrant 120? Silver surfer 20? Thor 18? Galactus 200? Eternity 350?
Thanos would beat darkseid, doomsday, despero, superman, superboy prime at the same time.
Thanos is criminally underrated or plain hated on this board.

^^^With people making half ass claims like:

Its no wonder.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Thanos 110? Then Odin 110? DP Tyrant 120? Silver surfer 20? Thor 18? Galactus 200? Eternity 350?
Thanos would beat darkseid, doomsday, despero, superman, superboy prime at the same time.
Thanos is criminally underrated or plain hated on this board.

thanos is not that strong. what are his strength feats? to me the only reason i put him slightly above superman is because he was able to physically bash both thor and hulks heads into each other. that feat is a nice one. he also has a feat of holding odins trident with 1 arm while odin couldnt free it with both of his arms, however, how strong is odin physically? and even if he can amped then during that fight how amped was odin? we dont know this. Thanos always handles thor physically so this is why i put him above superman. but i wouldnt stretch it that far to claim such things. as far as strength feats , guys like prime will rip him in half

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Thanos 110? Then Odin 110? DP Tyrant 120? Silver surfer 20? Thor 18? Galactus 200? Eternity 350?
Thanos would beat darkseid, doomsday, despero, superman, superboy prime at the same time.
Thanos is criminally underrated or plain hated on this board.


Thanos has no strength feat post crisis Superman can't replicate or hasn't already replicated. There you go.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Superman 100, then

Darkseid - 120 (he is strnoger than superman, although not by so much that superman can't beat him with his superior strength

Doomsday - 103 (slightly stronger than superman) in regular verison, while 165 in HP version

Despero - 183 (far stronger than a superman, can handle two supermen at once)

Superboy prime - 175 (2 supermen slightly overpowered him with strategic teamwork and pushed him to red sun).
Superman prime (guardian amp) - 300
Despero isn't that strong. Superman has actually oneshotted him with HV and another time held him back with just on his own.

SBP has overpowered Superman, Andromeda and Mon-El at the same time and destroyed shields which not even Validus could breach. He is at least two to three times stronger than Superman.

Darkseid is being majorly underrated by some posters. Superman is nowhere near Darkseid's strength level. It's like saying Thanos was beaten by Squirrel Girl, therefore.......But I'm not going to go there because I know better. IMO, Riv's ranking of 200 is more realistic (for what it's worth, I would put Thanos at 200, also).

Superman has no limit imo he lifts what the writers want him too.

Darkseid: Depends on the version
Despero: Depends on the version
Doomsday: Depends on the version
SBP: 200

I hate you for ruining the "D" names with Prime btw.

Originally posted by Faceless808
Riv's ranking of 200 is more realistic (for what it's worth, I would put Thanos at 200, also).
I would rank him at 200, too.

Thanos is one of those characters where you have to judge his strength on fights because he has only a couple lifting feats.

Originally posted by riv6672
I would rank him at 200, too.

Vv despero

If Superman is at 100, Thanos isn't at 200...sorry. I would probably say 105 and that's being generous.

Originally posted by carver9
If Superman is at 100, Thanos isn't at 200...sorry. I would probably say 105 and that's being generous.

Really, Carver? Forgive me, but I'm shocked! I kinda expected you to shoot me down for being too low! LOL!

Originally posted by golem370
Thanos is one of those characters where you have to judge his strength on fights because he has only a couple lifting feats.
That IS true, yeah. Lots of wiggle room.

doesnt seem like a 200 to me

also doesnt look too 200rish

Well, you can certainly interpret those scans (and the entire story, which I've read) the way you seem to be.
I see it as one character who needs several class100 characters and various other heroes to even slow him down.

I do NOT like Thanos, but i would never lowball his power level.

Originally posted by riv6672
Well, you can certainly interpret those scans (and the entire story, which I've read) the way you seem to be.
I see it as one character who needs several class100 characters and various other heroes to even slow him down.

I do NOT like Thanos, but i would never lowball his power level.

yeah i know thanos is powerful, not taking that away from him. a solid trans leveler. however my point is that if we only look at his strength, then we will see he is not that strong to be put on SBP levels or something like that. if he had that kind of strength he would be physically tossing guys like hulk, drax and thor left to right. however he does that with his powers. his strength alone is not on those levels IMO. i am not a huge thanos expert and i know i put myself in the danger zone here, but hey thats how you learn, jump into the deep water and try to swim. if i will be afraid to be wrong i wont find out things.

Originally posted by riv6672
Well, you can certainly interpret those scans (and the entire story, which I've read) the way you seem to be.
I see it as one character who needs several class100 characters and various other heroes to even slow him down.

I do NOT like Thanos, but i would never lowball his power level.

This. I agree that characters like Thanos and Darkseid have few pure strength feats, and as such, has to be judged by their fights. But being rocked by Drax, Hulk, Superman, etc, heroes whose forte is super strength doesn't equate to being on or near the same strength level.

Originally posted by golem370
Superman has no limit imo he lifts what the writers want him too.

This says it all. How do we judge using a measuring stick that changes size?

Originally posted by Faceless808
This says it all. How do we judge using a measuring stick that changes size?
My old GFs would always just applaud.

^^ LMAO, Riv!!

Originally posted by apex_pretador

Thanos would beat darkseid, doomsday, despero, superman, superboy prime at the same time.
Thanos is criminally underrated or plain hated on this board.

^^^

The problem is Superman is variable.
Any of those guys have the potential to beat him, but at any given moment, he can just decide to spin in a circle and beat the piss out of them.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Darksied
Despero
Doomsday
Superboy Prime If we are saying that Superman's average = 100, and if we are using the characters at their peaks, and if we are just talking physicality, then...

Darkseid = 120.
V/V Despero = 150.
H/P Doomsday = 250.
Prime = 200.

Originally posted by Juntai


So they beat Thanos by laughing? Thanos is resistant to laughing.

Originally posted by carver9
If Superman is at 100, Thanos isn't at 200...sorry. I would probably say 105 and that's being generous.
You know nothing about thanos and this is a given fact now.

Originally posted by abhilegend


Thanos has no strength feat post crisis Superman can't replicate or hasn't already replicated. There you go.

How many DC characters have destroyed an actual planet with their strength? Considering that Thanos barely notices extra-large gas giant planets exploding to his face, if you can't show then I win.

What does tanking explosions have to do with strength?

It shows a mighty constitution?

Originally posted by apex_pretador




How many DC characters have destroyed an actual planet with their strength? Considering that Thanos barely notices extra-large gas giant planets exploding to his face, if you can't show then I win.

Lots of characters in DC can do that.

Just large gas Giants? Even Byrne Superman aka the weakest Superman can tank Krypton exploding under a red sun.


And Krypton dwarfed Jupiter BTW.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Byrne Superman survived the explosion of krypton under red sun and kryptonite radiation.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p14.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p17.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p18.jpg

Krypton dwarfs Jupiter.

http://i.imgur.com/LPebO2Ks.jpg

mmm

But maybe Thanos is just as strong as Byrne Superman.

That makes sense.
I mean, DCnu Superman is roughly half Darkseid level.
Darkseid and Thanos are fairly equal.
Byrne Superman > DCnu Superman.
Math rocks.

Thanos 5

Batman 9999

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lots of characters in DC can do that.

Just large gas Giants? Even Byrne Superman aka the weakest Superman can tank Krypton exploding under a red sun.


And Krypton dwarfed Jupiter BTW.



But maybe Thanos is just as strong as Byrne Superman.
Sigh, I asked you for actual feats for someone destroying planets in DC, not what you posted.

Damn, i thought the scans had been posted already.

Originally posted by riv6672
Damn, i thought the scans had been posted already. No they haven't.
I did not ask scans of surviving a planet-bust. I asked for actual planet busting with strength.

DC characters are rare with planetary showings minus Green Lanterns of course. ABHI will post Superman 100 times bigger than a planet throwing emporer Joker on a planet as evidence. Anyways, if a character have showings of a character exceeding planetary showings, then that should prove they can destroy one. Dont know if Superman have those showings but if he does, that is proof enough imo.

Originally posted by carver9
DC characters are rare with planetary showings minus Green Lanterns of course. ABHI will post Superman 100 times bigger than a planet throwing emporer Joker on a planet as evidence. Anyways, if a character have showings of a character exceeding planetary showings, then that should prove they can destroy one. Dont know if Superman have those showings but if he does, that is proof enough imo.
Strength wise, the strength required to completely destroy a planet is around the strength required to lift an entire solar system.

Green lanterns do it with energy attacks, not physical strength.

Originally posted by Galan007
If we are saying that Superman's average = 100, and if we are using the characters at their peaks, and if we are just talking physicality, then...

Darkseid = 120.
V/V Despero = 150.
H/P Doomsday = 250.
Prime = 200.

I'm curious as to how you put Doomsday physically above SBP.

Prime is literally strong enough to take on the entire justice league, GLC, and Sinestro corps. All at the same time, without any difficulty. That includes several Kryptonian's.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
No they haven't.
I did not ask scans of surviving a planet-bust. I asked for actual planet busting with strength.
Yeah, i was surprised you werent scan bombed.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Sigh, I asked you for actual feats for someone destroying planets in DC, not what you posted.
Oh right. Here you go.

Mon El destroys a planet by tossing it into a sun.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78327/2094564-monel_star.jpg

Point me anyone in Marvel even able to move a planet on his own. Silver Surfer maxed out in moving a moon.

Thats a very cartoonishly drawn planet. Looks more like a meteor.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Strength wise, the strength required to completely destroy a planet is around the strength required to lift an entire solar system.


And this was stated in which comic? Your precious Surfer has destroyed planet and yet had to put every bit of his power in moving a moon.

Right. But somehow Thanos surviving a planet's destruction is a strength showing.

Somehow.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh right. Here you go.

Mon El destroys a planet by tossing it into a sun.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78327/2094564-monel_star.jpg

Point me anyone in Marvel even able to move a planet on his own. Silver Surfer maxed out in moving a moon.

I think I asked you for a planet busting feat, by strength, not a feat of tossing a small asteroid into sun.

Still waiting.

Oh, and when did surfer "maxed out" in moving a moon?

This is what i was hoping for. Creative interpretation as to what constitutes a planet/busting, because as you pointed out neither are in that scan.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
I think I asked you for a planet busting feat, by strength, not a feat of tossing a small asteroid into sun.


So you're just copying another poster's word for yours that it was an asteroid?

Asteroids aren't that big.

Waiting for what?

But here you go. Superman and Kal-L's fight shatters the boundaries of reality and destroys a planet six times in three comics.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_18-1.jpg

"Who can strike with such force they shatter-". It happened again and again. It happened 6 times in 3 comics.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_02-03.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AOS649SURVIVESTIMEREALITYSHATERINGFORCES5.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_18-1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16242471_06.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16242475_13.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16242478_14.jpg


In his own comic.

http://postimg.org/image/p7ajs6yrf/
http://postimg.org/image/rd4ump27v/

While Superman moved krypton which is bigger than Jupiter under his own power.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG15.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG16.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG17.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG18.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG19-20.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG21.jpg.html

What a feeb that Surfer is.

Originally posted by riv6672
This is what i was hoping for. Creative interpretation as to what constitutes a planet/busting, because as you pointed out neither are in that scan.
And what proof do you have that it was an asteroid?

Oh right, none.

Ok, let me see

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you're just copying another poster's word for yours that it was an asteroid?

Asteroids aren't that big.

Waiting for what?

But here you go. Superman and Kal-L's fight shatters the boundaries of reality and destroys a planet six times in three comics.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_18-1.jpg

"Who can strike with such force they shatter-". It happened again and again. It happened 6 times in 3 comics.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_02-03.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AOS649SURVIVESTIMEREALITYSHATERINGFORCES5.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_18-1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16242471_06.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16242475_13.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16242478_14.jpg


In his own comic.

http://postimg.org/image/p7ajs6yrf/
http://postimg.org/image/rd4ump27v/

While Superman moved krypton which is bigger than Jupiter under his own power.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG15.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG16.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG17.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG18.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG19-20.jpg.html
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/media/Strength/Lifting-Pushing-Pulling/Krypton_II/SUPERMAN_V2_167-PG21.jpg.html

What a feeb that Surfer is.

1. Surfer is not just moving the moon. He is taking it off on his board at super-speed. Moving moon at FTL >> moving a planet. Do you not see the lines around moving surfer showing FTL speed? See last panel.

2. I haven't read this issue, so can you please tell me that is this rally a moon or a planet? Because nowhere does it say that this is a moon, in the scans you posted.

3. Surfer , Quasar and ronan moved a planet in annihilation with ease through dimensional portal.

On superman

1. Are you really using the scans from crisis? I thought we were talking about post crisis, but not surprising seeing how you used a pre-crisis scan of that asteroid.

2. There is no PLANET destroyed here. Nothing shown , not saying planets are being cracked or anything. They were shattering spacetime / realities and that's it.

3.If you are basing that just on "worlds shattered" then you should atleast know that this is referring to reality being broken, hell, even on the panel where lois and superman are kissing, the "worlds shattered" but agian, you might believe that superman is capable of planet-busting without doing any damage to actual planet and by kissing lois.

4. Reality was weak at that time due to all that crisis. That's why reality was shattering all over the place so easily.

On the other superman scans:

1. How many times do I have to tell you that planet moving =/=planet busting. I can move a car, but I can't destroy one (maybe with grenade or bomb, but not my own power). Hell, I can't even destroy a shot-putt, dspite the fact that I can lift it in one hand and toss it.
So, even if superman is capable of tossing around planets with one hand, it doesn't mean he can destroy one with his own power.
You know what, you should be able to lift 50+ coconuts easily, try to destroy one, and post a video if you are successful. Maybe then you'll realize the difference in moving and destroying.

2. Which superman is this? This is definitely not pre 52 superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And what proof do you have that it was an asteroid?

Oh right, none.
The panel is more than a proof. See how small it is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And what proof do you have that it was an asteroid?

Oh right, none.
I have common sense and conjecture.

You're trying to pass off shoving an asteroid into a sun as destroying a planet with strength.
You have fanboy-itis and straight up lies. I'll stick to what i have.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And what proof do you have that it was an asteroid?

Oh right, none.

again you are asking people to prove things they dont have to prove. you were asked to show a planet busting feat. riv is right you showed a feat of moving something. we dont know if its a planet or not it isnt stated in the scan. it can be anything. it can be asteroid for all that we know. people are simply asking a feat where we clearly see its a planet and we clearly see someone bust it. why is it so hard with you and simple first grade comprehension? ABHI tell us. why?

Originally posted by apex_pretador
1. Surfer is not just moving the moon. He is taking it off on his board at super-speed. Moving moon at FTL >> moving a planet. Do you not see the lines around moving surfer showing FTL speed? See last panel.

2. I haven't read this issue, so can you please tell me that is this rally a moon or a planet? Because nowhere does it say that this is a moon, in the scans you posted.

3. Surfer , Quasar and ronan moved a planet in annihilation with ease through dimensional portal.

On superman

1. Are you really using the scans from crisis? I thought we were talking about post crisis, but not surprising seeing how you used a pre-crisis scan of that asteroid.

2. There is no PLANET destroyed here. Nothing shown , not saying planets are being cracked or anything. They were shattering spacetime / realities and that's it.

3.If you are basing that just on "worlds shattered" then you should atleast know that this is referring to reality being broken, hell, even on the panel where lois and superman are kissing, the "worlds shattered" but agian, you might believe that superman is capable of planet-busting without doing any damage to actual planet and by kissing lois.

4. Reality was weak at that time due to all that crisis. That's why reality was shattering all over the place so easily.

On the other superman scans:

1. How many times do I have to tell you that planet moving =/=planet busting. I can move a car, but I can't destroy one (maybe with grenade or bomb, but not my own power). Hell, I can't even destroy a shot-putt, dspite the fact that I can lift it in one hand and toss it.
So, even if superman is capable of tossing around planets with one hand, it doesn't mean he can destroy one with his own power.
You know what, you should be able to lift 50+ coconuts easily, try to destroy one, and post a video if you are successful. Maybe then you'll realize the difference in moving and destroying.

2. Which superman is this? This is definitely not pre 52 superman.


The panel is more than a proof. See how small it is.


Right on point. The crisis and reality itself was weakened and when those two Supers met, it weakened it even further. It had nothing to do with planet shattering or hell, their punches. It was more focused on two Supers fighting and time already being in a Flux. Sad that even new people that joined the forum knows this. He will keep using it though.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
1. Surfer is not just moving the moon. He is taking it off on his board at super-speed. Moving moon at FTL >> moving a planet. Do you not see the lines around moving surfer showing FTL speed? See last panel.


Lines means lightspeed? Since when? A weakened Ultraman moved the moon away with complete ease.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16589342_foreverevil1-1r5uj8.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16589343_foreverevil1-2i0x6k.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16589344_foreverevil1-3qty8x.jpg

Superman moved a giant planet with his HV alone under red sun.

It is specifically stated to be a moon in the comic.

Completely off panel. Superman and Hal moved a planet after wrestling with the power of a skyfather level being.

Mon-El, Andromeda and Dev-Em moved a planet. Casually at that.

You're saying Surfer is low herald level in DC?

That's not pre crisis. That's from post crisis. Around infinite crisis.

And that "asteroid" scene is post crisis as well.

The phrase "The world shattered" is stated six times. What do you think world means?



He is sharing memories with Kal-L's memories. That's just a flashback he is having in his memory.

Unless you think Superman went to kiss Lois in the middle of the fight.


That's just a myth. Reality was never stated to be weak.

That's cute kid. Moving a planet isn't just about moving it's mass. It's overpowering all the gravitational force of sun and it's rotation. To destroy the planet all you need to do is overcome the gravitational binding force.

Try moving a car running at 100 mph and see how it works for you.

And again, let me know a single planet mover in Marvel if that's easier than destroying a planet.



If he is able to toss a planet with one hand, he will casually destroy a planet.

Try moving coconuts with your bare hands when they are moving above speed of sound.

Send me a video too.

Pre 52 Superman.

Small enough that it looks close to the size of a sun?

Good eye kid.

Originally posted by riv6672
I have common sense and conjecture.

You're trying to pass off shoving an asteroid into a sun as destroying a planet with strength.
You have fanboy-itis and straight up lies. I'll stick to what i have.
So basically nothing as ever.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Dareangel
again you are asking people to prove things they dont have to prove. you were asked to show a planet busting feat. riv is right you showed a feat of moving something. we dont know if its a planet or not it isnt stated in the scan. it can be anything. it can be asteroid for all that we know. people are simply asking a feat where we clearly see its a planet and we clearly see someone bust it. why is it so hard with you and simple first grade comprehension? ABHI tell us. why? Originally posted by carver9
Right on point. The crisis and reality itself was weakened and when those two Supers met, it weakened it even further. It had nothing to do with planet shattering or hell, their punches. It was more focused on two Supers fighting and time already being in a Flux. Sad that even new people that joined the forum knows this. He will keep using it though.
You two trolls have anything to prove it was an asteroid or the reality being weakened?

The planets were shown and stated clearly in the comic. It was end of time where the only things remaining were dying stars and barren planers.

If not, stop wasting my time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So basically nothing as ever.

Concession accepted.

No, that definitely was something. Care to rebut, or are you more comfortable ignoring?

Superman hv indirectly busted a planet. Shockwaves must've been bananas. HV shockwaves!!!!!

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/05.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/06.jpg.html

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Superman hv indirectly busted a planet. Shockwaves must've been bananas. HV shockwaves!!!!!

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/05.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/06.jpg.html
Yes, HV can move a planet under red sun. It can destroy a planet as well.

Glad u agree it indirectly busted a planet while the one they were on was completely unscathed save for a few buildings.


Those are some shockwaves though.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Glad u agree it indirectly busted a planet while the one they were on was completely unscathed save for a few buildings.


Those are some shockwaves though.
There was nobody on Earth 2 when they fought. The shockwaves of their punches were changing reality and it even showed in different titles.

No amount of whining would change it.

Jesus, this again? Really?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You two trolls have anything to prove it was an asteroid or the reality being weakened?

The planets were shown and stated clearly in the comic. It was end of time where the only things remaining were dying stars and barren planers.

If not, stop wasting my time.

again the burden of proos is only on you. you are trying to convince people its a planet so you have to prove it.present evidence it was a planet. present evidence that says its a planet and nothing else.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Jesus, this again? Really?
Yeah, Superman is weaksauce because he didn't punch a rock and broke it.Originally posted by Dareangel
again the burden of proos is only on you. you are trying to convince people its a planet so you have to prove it.present evidence it was a planet. present evidence that says its a planet and nothing else.
Those were shown as planets from the solar system.

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021627_p00029.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021636_p00030.jpg

That small blue orb is Earth.

Mon-el threw Trapper in the sun and threw a planet at him to kill him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Jesus, this again? Really?
Yup.
Superman has to be the best at everything or abhi cant function.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Jesus, this again? Really?

SILENCE, TRAITOR!!!!

Originally posted by -Pr-
Jesus, this again? Really?

It is a comic book vs forum, remember?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Superman is weaksauce because he didn't punch a rock and broke it.
Those were shown as planets from the solar system.

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021627_p00029.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021636_p00030.jpg

That small blue orb is Earth.

Mon-el threw Trapper in the sun and threw a planet at him to kill him. I think he's confused by the picture where the curvature makes it look like the size of the daily planet globe even though before and after that he's the size of an insignificant speck next to it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lines means lightspeed? Since when? A weakened Ultraman moved the moon away with complete ease.

That's cute kid. Moving a planet isn't just about moving it's mass. It's overpowering all the gravitational force of sun and it's rotation. To destroy the planet all you need to do is overcome the gravitational binding force.

Try moving a car running at 100 mph and see how it works for you.

And again, let me know a single planet mover in Marvel if that's easier than destroying a planet.



If he is able to toss a planet with one hand, he will casually destroy a planet.

Try moving coconuts with your bare hands when they are moving above speed of sound.

Send me a video too.


If I was a speedster faster than a speeding bullet, I'd do it easily. As expeted, you have nothing in your arsenal left.

Oh, and even HYPERION was able to stop 2 planets from colliding, when they were near each other. And hyperion is weaker than even hulk & Thor.

Hulk is physically stronger than Thor & Hercules who both have planetary strength. Thor has thrown away midgard serpent with ease, which was bigger than earth, and Hercules has held a planet on his back.

Moving a planet is nothing, accept it. When a moon goes rogue, entire JL is out of their minds, and the only way to stop it is superman bullrushing at moon and destroying it with a lot of effort which left him knocked out. Hell, the JL members even doubt if superman would survive.

If Thor was there, he would've just smashed the moon to pieces. Hell, even hulk would've done it.

I LOL at a few things in this thread. Thanks guys.

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Darksied - 1,000
Despero - 300
-Doomsday - 120
Superboy Prime - 1,000,000,000

Originally posted by apex_pretador
If I was a speedster faster than a speeding bullet, I'd do it easily. As expeted, you have nothing in your arsenal left.
But moving a planet out of orbit has nothing to do with a character's speed. Otherwise Flash could do that too.

This is a good point.

We know Superman and Flash are equali-ish in speed - sure, in some comics, Flash is doing it 'for charity', other times, Superman is faster. But we can all agree, they are in the same ballpark.

Can Flash replicate the same feats? Seeing as the 'thrust' from his engine is about the same.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Oh, and even HYPERION was able to stop 2 planets from colliding, when they were near each other. And hyperion is weaker than even hulk & Thor.

Did Thor and Hulk stop two planets from colliding?

Superman and a few more Supermen and half dozen GLs dragged out entire multiverse out of a gigantic black hole. How strong are they?



That midgard serpent showing is debunked long ago. Herc never held the planet at his back.



Accept what? That you are basically trolling?



And Surfer actually died destroying a stationary moon while amped to the point he nearly exploded.

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15980209_surferlol.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15980216_surferlol1.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15980223_surferlol2.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15980230_surferlol3.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15980232_surferlol4.jpg

So, Superman>Amped Surfer. Right? Heck, Surfer was knocked out just deflecting a spaceship.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-32.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-33.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-34.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-35.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-36.jpg



Right. Because they have destroyed a moon travelling at that level of speed? Right.

By now it is clear that you are flat out trolling. I see no point in continuing any more.

However, to make a thing clear, Surfer was knocked out because he was full of energy to the point of exploding. Do you know why? Because surfer had to absorb energy for diversion Thanos needed. If he had to just blow up the moon, he could've done by simple energy blast, but he had to do it by absorbing as much energy as possible to create enornous unnatural solar flare activities AND DESTROY THE SCANNING ABILITIES of most of goddess's planet's scientiests.
But again, you are only trolling and lowballing, rather than giving some proof for DC characters planet busting.

Go on, I am not going to continue with a troll.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
...Can Flash replicate the same feats? Seeing as the 'thrust' from his engine is about the same.
Not IMO.
The engines are comparable, but if they were cars? Superman's a 1950s model, With a metal chassis, Flash a newer, fiberglass model.


Originally posted by apex_pretador
By now it is clear that you are flat out trolling. I see no point in continuing any more.
My point is always to mock him incessantly. But you were doing all the hard work so, guess i'm done in this thread.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Go on, I am not going to continue with a troll.
Well thats his strategy.
He justs runs a circular argument until the other poster gets bored/frustrated/more interested in another thread/a mod gets involved and tells everyone to stop...and calls it a victory.
When you have nothing else, i guess thats a lot.

I used to think a slur against Supes triggered a signal watch on Abhi; now I know it's more like a Motherbox, barely keeping his frothing rage in check.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
By now it is clear that you are flat out trolling. I see no point in continuing any more.


That's just ironic on so many levels.

Yes, which he did by destroying the moon. Which killed him.

He wasn't killed by creating solar flares.

You're just making shit up at this point.




I already provided two such scenes. Which you ignored.

Concession accepted kid. Go and wank marvel characters somewhere else.

Originally posted by riv6672
Not IMO.
The engines are comparable, but if they were cars? Superman's a 1950s model, With a metal chassis, Flash a newer, fiberglass model.



My point is always to mock him incessantly. But you were doing all the hard work so, guess i'm done in this thread.


Well thats his strategy.
He justs runs a circular argument until the other poster gets bored/frustrated/more interested in another thread/a mod gets involved and tells everyone to stop...and calls it a victory.
When you have nothing else, i guess thats a lot.
So once you get proven wrong about everything ex the asteroid in this thread, you take the holier than thou attitude?

Good, good. You're basically confirming that you're nothing but a troll.

Originally posted by riv6672
Not IMO.


My point is always to mock him incessantly. But you were doing all the hard work so, guess i'm done in this thread.


Well thats his strategy.
He justs runs a circular argument until the other poster gets bored/frustrated/more interested in another thread/a mod gets involved and tells everyone to stop...and calls it a victory.
When you have nothing else, i guess thats a lot.

Glad you admit you are a mocking troll and a internet tattle tale.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Glad you admit you are a mocking troll and a internet tattle tale. Riv in a nutshell

That's the only reason he still comes around here. That and the fact he thinks he is Luke Cage in real life.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Superman is weaksauce because he didn't punch a rock and broke it.
Those were shown as planets from the solar system.

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021627_p00029.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021636_p00030.jpg

That small blue orb is Earth.

Mon-el threw Trapper in the sun and threw a planet at him to kill him.
So Abhi does know the concept of artistic license....


The Hippo strikes again.

http://img.pandawhale.com/180056-hippo-shit-tornado-gif-imgur-FdfI.gif

You still salty about that portal? Let it go already.

If salty to u means being right.... then call me the dead sea.

No, salty means just salty.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
If salty to u means being right.... then call me the dead sea.

http://s11.favim.com/orig/160217/cats-cat-gif-funny-cat-gifs-foot-in-mouth-Favim.com-4010711.gif

Your debating style.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
http://s11.favim.com/orig/160217/cats-cat-gif-funny-cat-gifs-foot-in-mouth-Favim.com-4010711.gif

Your debating style. Originally posted by abhilegend
No, salty means just salty.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
http://s11.favim.com/orig/160217/cats-cat-gif-funny-cat-gifs-foot-in-mouth-Favim.com-4010711.gif

Your debating style.

Agreeing with Quan now?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Superman is weaksauce because he didn't punch a rock and broke it.
Those were shown as planets from the solar system.

http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021627_p00029.jpg http://s6d5.turboimg.net/t1/30021636_p00030.jpg

That small blue orb is Earth.

Mon-el threw Trapper in the sun and threw a planet at him to kill him.

prove those are planets. after that prove he was tossing one of them and not something else. after that provide a busting feat and not pushing feat i am waiting.

Originally posted by Dareangel
prove those are planets. after that prove he was tossing one of them and not something else. after that provide a busting feat and not pushing feat i am waiting.
That scene is from LoS v3 #50.

It's obviously some sort of celestial body (art was extremely vague), but there's virtually no way to know for sure if it was actually a planet. Actually to me it looked more like a moon. Still impressive though when you consider the speed at which Mon-El was able to push said celestial body. Forcing Time Trapper into a sun to me was even more impressive.

Originally posted by Dareangel
prove those are planets. after that prove he was tossing one of them and not something else. after that provide a busting feat and not pushing feat i am waiting.
That's some fine trolling right there.