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Does it explain why he can't ragdoll the out of prime Ben Kenobi?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111178634/5070089-1318046255-2016-.png

Ziggy questions are simply too hard to answer.

Oh good, glad that was cleared up.

If we're picking and choosing which universes we want to take seriously in debate, then I want my badass grievous back .

The link isn't working Beni.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080622081315/http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/comics/news20051222.html

Not seeing the connection.

The above image is part of the Star Wars Manga series, dear.

1) That's racist

2) I'm not seeing that, can you clarify

http://www.mangareader.net/star-wars/24/16

Everything looks ok to me, I don't understand what the issue is ?

Your lack of comprehension skills.

Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you actually not believe this is a Lucasfilm publication? If so, where is the evidence.

facepalm

I take that as a no?

In which case, can someone clarify whether this is canon or not...

I always thought it was canon within Legends continuity.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
I take that as a no?

In which case, can someone clarify whether this is canon or not...

That is a Star Wars Korean manga that can be read here:

http://www.webtoons.com/en/sf/starwars/list?title_no=544&page=4

And, it is published by Star Wars Korean fans, thus it isn't canon.

Don't troll, plz.

Originally posted by MythLord
That is a Star Wars Korean manga that can be read here:

http://www.webtoons.com/en/sf/starwars/list?title_no=544&page=4


Don't troll, plz.

Korean Manga isn't even a thing. Are you seriously that culturally insinuative to lump the entirety of Asia into one melting pot? Manga specifically refers to comics created in Japan, by Japanese writers, in which case Beni provided a false link. Don't be a little race-baiter plz.



Where's the proof? it's trademarked with LucasfilmTM, so I await solid verification for it's state of fanon.

Of course it's not Canon. Not only does it not happen in the movie, but it's from 2005.

Ziggy this mission of yours to convince us all the Vader is some weak cyborg man is doomed to fail and is simply not true.

George Lucas thinks he's a weak cyborg-man. This is a guy who couldn't even break a 20-year shy of practice, and far weaker Old Ben and lost substantially to Maul in Resurrections - the same Maul who lost to TPM Kenobi. I don't see what's so special about some guy who's best feat is beating the Dark Woman.

Lucas never once called Vader weak. Not once. In fact Filoni's protection of Vader comes from Lucas.

Vader did defeat Ben, in case you didn't notice. And you've yet to prove Ben's weakened. He's certainly not completely out of practice going by the new canon. In fact chances are he will face Maul pretty soon.

No one cares about Ressurection. It was a part of Legends (possibly non-canon even to Legends) and was made before Episodes 2, 3 and TCW. It's simply not relevant to anything anymore.

He has plenty of better feats than beating the Dark Woman and you know it. Beating Starkiller, Ahsoka and Kenobi are all superior.

He's also taken down a frigging AT-AT with TK Alone.

He's a beast. And has the feats to prove it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lucas never once called Vader weak. Not once. In fact Filoni's protection of Vader comes from Lucas.

Filoni's protection of Vader pertains to a number of cases, the first is his image, the sense of dread for our defiant thespians when faced with the Empire's primera Judge, Jury and executioner. But why is Vader such an imminent threat? Sam Witwer answered it perfectly, he's living in an Era where all the best Jedi have been buried and what he has left is fodder. You can show me clips of Vader stomping Ezra all day long and it won't change the fact that he's a handicapped shell of his former self On the other hand, Lucas referred to Vader as a half crippled robot man comparing him negatively to folks like Qui Gon Jinn and TPM Kenobi in a sense that they could fight better than him. I see no reason to believe why that isn't the case.



Wrong you are Thor, Vader couldn't break Ben's guard till the latter voluntarily yielded, he also admitted that the slightest moment of distraction would end up with his head parted from his body. In fact, it's even implied that Obi Wan could have beaten him.



Various sources have confirmed that Ben isn't even close to his ATOC self in terms of combat, and it's vaguely implied that the mission to ascend past the physical realm stifled his control over it with the Force. It is true, he is more more powerful than ever in death but it's a shame none of that relates to combat against a Dark Lord with a lightsaber. He does well because Vader is also vastly weakened by the robotic implants restricting his movements and dulling his use of the Force.



And we will have two bottles of expired milk fighting each other.



It was created in the fashion and with the intent that all Legends material are conceived with, as an addition that mirrors the realm of George Lucas' vision. They wanted to present to us how a fight between Maul and Vader would ensue, and as it turns out Vader gets battered worse than TPM Kenobi, and much like TPM Kenobi, he only manages to scrape a narrow win.



Getting defeated by Starkiller/Galen Marek isn't impressive when the latter hasn't even mastered lightsaber combat and gets slapped about by Shaak Ti, Maris Brood and random Shadow Gaurds. At least the Dark Woman has a bit of empty renown to her name. What exactly has Ashoka done to compare?



So he's now K'krukh level with Force powers?

It's not canon, but neither is it non-canon:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/127594/5070103-9162291727-latest

My thoughts: It's a good feat for Luke, not a bad one for Vader.

Good enough for me.

Also what the hell was Beni talking about in regard to Tokoyo Pop lol? Being culturally insensitive by mistaking Korea for Japan. LMAO

Originally posted by Azronger
It's not canon, but neither is it non-canon:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/127594/5070103-9162291727-latest

My thoughts: It's a good feat for Luke, not a bad one for Vader. Ah, I thought it was from the ANH manga series. Fair enough.Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Good enough for me.

Also what the hell was Beni talking about in regard to Tokoyo Pop lol? Being culturally insensitive by mistaking Korea for Japan. LMAO lol

This comic is actually pretty good, Ben shreds a Krayt Dragon lol > Revan confirmed.

Vader is getting shit on. Looks like I have been proven right once again.