Puck vs. Iron Fist

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-K-M-
Well looks like the duo is going to clash in the upcoming Power Man & Iron Fist #9.

Who do you think will win in the comic? and who really should win in a fight?

1. http://www.newsarama.com/images/i/000/180/743/original/Power_Man_Iron_Fist_9_3_and_4.jpg
2. http://www.newsarama.com/images/i/000/180/744/original/Power_Man_Iron_Fist_9_5_and_6.jpg

leonidas
puck ball punches him ftw. thumb up

deathslash
Danny hands him his own ass while Luke beats carol like rhodey should have.

Supermutant
in comics ironfist ftw
in forum ironfist ftw

Galan007
http://i.imgur.com/IHZLYVH.jpg

cdtm
I dunno, Power Man and Iron Fist Danny isn't really as badass as other versions, being the comedy buddy sidekick in this obvious Lethal Weapon spoof series.

John Ostrander or Christopher Priest would have had Danny solo this entire team. wink

deathslash
Originally posted by cdtm
I dunno, Power Man and Iron Fist Danny isn't really as badass as other versions, being the comedy buddy sidekick in this obvious Lethal Weapon spoof series.

John Ostrander or Christopher Priest would have had Danny solo this entire team. wink he beat black tarantula with three kicks........

-K-M-
Originally posted by Galan007
http://i.imgur.com/IHZLYVH.jpg

He's just upset they didn't let him join

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_4245_zpsg22qgdjs.png

cdtm
Originally posted by deathslash
he beat black tarantula with three kicks........

Yeah, but who knows if it was the same BT. Danny Rand actually met him before, and they didn't awknowledge that prior meeting. And as tough as Danny is, Carlos is pretty durable... Spidey couldn't even slow him down, and being engulfed in flames and getting riddled with bullets through the chest was a minor inconvience to him. At the least, it should have taken an Iron Fist to put him out.

And outside of that fight, Danny's kind of gotten thrown around a lot, and let Cage take center stage against the likes of Tombstone..

-K-M-
Well the issue came out today...

Originally posted by Galan007
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So they battle evenly for some time and then puck tanks a super charged iron fist and was relatively fine. That was the end of their fight.

Overall Puck did incredibly well since it is an iron fist book

cdtm
Who says it's super charged? smile

The way he's rubbing his head, he definately felt it. But it's impressive he wasn't laid out. (Disagree on this being an Iron Fist book, though. The original Power Man and Iron Fist main writer had Danny job pretty hard, with guest/secondary writers making up the difference. And I get the feeling this writer is more of a Cage fan, judging by Danny being comedy relief so far...)

How powerful is Puck supposed to be? Cage level, or higher?

-K-M-
Because it sent Puck through multiple prison walls

He felt it but he hardly was out as he was up and running around like nothing happened a few seconds later

Puck rubs his head a lot even though he wasnt seriously injuired

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/UncannyX-Force002-011_zpsacd50a4b.jpg

He's supposed to be lower in strength than Cage, but durability is close-ish.

leonidas
one thing is for sure--according to that book puck>>>black tarantula. lends a lot of credibility to all of this. thumb up

carver9
Danny didn't touch Puck with that punch. It was a decent fight though.

-K-M-
The punch went through the bars and hit Puck's chest. Or that's what it looks like in the art. I can't see the bars providing much defense regardless. In fact it's basically incinerated in the next panel.

I just wish the fight was longer.

cdtm
Originally posted by leonidas
one thing is for sure--according to that book puck>>>black tarantula. lends a lot of credibility to all of this. thumb up

Well, considering even Rhino, Firelord, Masterson, or Fixit can't tank Spidey's blitz like Carlos could.. Or, dare I say it, Scorpion (Remember when Cage fought him? eek! )

Seriously though, the only other quasi street/meta character I could think of with that level of damage soak is Gorgon. Bullets, explosions, and Spider-fist's didn't even slow him down.

-K-M-
Sadly after his initial appearance his stock steadily declined. Great character wish they used him more

Supermutant
Originally posted by cdtm
Well, considering even Rhino, Firelord, Masterson, or Fixit can't tank Spidey's blitz like Carlos could.. Or, dare I say it, Scorpion (Remember when Cage fought him? eek! )

Seriously though, the only other quasi street/meta character I could think of with that level of damage soak is Gorgon. Bullets, explosions, and Spider-fist's didn't even slow him down.

Yeah but then Bullseye beat him in prison. confused

Zack M
I guess Puck doesn't get owned, afterall. wink

cdtm
Originally posted by -K-M-
Sadly after his initial appearance his stock steadily declined. Great character wish they used him more

As far as I know, he only had about four appearences total before now. There was one where he was simply a mastermind/onlooker against Spidey, and of course the Brubaker Daredevil run, where he has some of his best feats (And also got taken down with a sword through the back, but that was kind of planned..)

Far as I'm concerned, nothing really shows this writer has any interest in kung fu fighting, because the choreography and technique just isn't there. Danny's just a guy with a magic fist, basically.

Hell, I doubt he even knows much about BT outside of making a cameo in Bru's run..

I still love this series so far, but I'd take it all with a grain of salt.

-K-M-
Oh no he has had a lot more appearances then that

RealityWarper
Is the ShariForce allowed ?

cdtm
IMO, if Puck is Cage level durability wise, then Danny should KO him with one or two good hits, as he had to Cage several times.

But even going by the recent fight posted here, I'd say Iron Fist eventually puts him down after a long, long fight and a lot of Iron Fist's. (Assuming this version of Danny doesn't get tired after a few IF's, like he did in the old days. You never know..)

-K-M-
We didn't see Puck at his best either. Once puck gets bouncing around the room he's a wrecker. He easily took out taskmaster

On average no iron fist is not going to KO Luke cage characters with 2 good hits. Cage got more powerful overtime as well

But yes iron fist would need a lot of iron fists to take him down (based on this fight), but it's not like puck will just stand in one placd

cdtm
Originally posted by -K-M-
We didn't see Puck at his best either. Once puck gets bouncing around the room he's a wrecker. He easily took out taskmaster

On average no iron fist is not going to KO Luke cage characters with 2 good hits. Cage got more powerful overtime as well

But yes iron fist would need a lot of iron fists to take him down (based on this fight), but it's not like puck will just stand in one placd

Even if Bendis himself is one of the guys who had Danny take Cage down? stick out tongue (Specifically, when Cage was giant sized and under some form of mind control..)

-K-M-
Bendis also had wrecker tank Danny's iron fist with a smile too. Hence why I said average

JayDaDon
Which is funny because didn't IF solo the entire wrecking crew? #inconsistencies

-K-M-
Yep and another time iron fist said he couldn't do anything to them and they were much higher then him

"Comics"

StiltmanFTW
http://www.newnownext.com/wp-content/uploads/backlot/images/xmen508-northstarrecruit.gif

-K-M-
Oh and Logan did you forget you killed me and turned me into an assassin for the Hand? No? Ok moving on

Of all people to send I probably wouldn't use wolverine as his recruiter

Also the alpha flight comment was a jab at wolverine as he was a founding member of the team.....jerkface

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh and Logan did you forget you killed me and turned me into an assassin for the Hand? No? Ok moving on

They actually did mention it, lol. But I guess little incidents like that can be discussed in the space of a single panel under Fraction (at least I think it was his writing).

-K-M-
Oh I don't remember that. Same issue?

StiltmanFTW
Yeah.

StiltmanFTW
Here, Mungi:

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/how-wolverine-recruited-northstar-to-the-x-men-3.png

-K-M-
Oh geez

Why is everyone smiling too?

StiltmanFTW
Fraction & Land. The entire run was like that laughing

leonidas
so i'm gathering we really learned....nothing from the actual fight about how this fight would actually go down? nice. thumb up

cdtm
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yep and another time iron fist said he couldn't do anything to them and they were much higher then him

"Comics"

And Claremont's the one who wrote that, who wrote a particularly powerful Iron Fist.

While the guy who wrote the beat down was Danny's original writer BEFORE Claremont got him and seriously powered him up, plus an editor and chief. Not only was his IF much weaker when he originally wrote him, but you'd think an editor with his stripes would know the Crew's power levels....

In a similar vein, that Bendis example you mentioned earlier is funny since Bendis also had Danny punch Skaar across the room.

-K-M-
Originally posted by leonidas
so i'm gathering we really learned....nothing from the actual fight about how this fight would actually go down? nice. thumb up

We learned a little. Without iron fist they were stale mating each other and no one had a clear advantage. When he used the iron fist puck tanked it pretty well. Overall they leaves iron fist with not as many options when we didn't even see puck do his wrecking ball move

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AF5_0007copy_zps93e89f9a.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AlphaFlight02pg17copy_zpsbf4ddf82.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight113-06.jpg

Etc.

cdtm
Originally posted by -K-M-
The punch went through the bars and hit Puck's chest. Or that's what it looks like in the art. I can't see the bars providing much defense regardless. In fact it's basically incinerated in the next panel.

I just wish the fight was longer.

The bars and "klang" sound effect were there for a reason.

I agree the Fist should go through the bars like they weren't there, but they could still screw up his range, or send Puck flying before the hit really contacts him. At the least turn a direct hit into a glancing blow.

-K-M-
Made the sound effect as he hit it and looked like he went through them and hit pucks chest based on the art. I highly doubt the bars would provide much or any defence as they were incinerated in the next panel.

riv6672
Originally posted by leonidas
so i'm gathering we really learned....nothing from the actual fight about how this fight would actually go down? nice. thumb up
^^^Yeah...!

This thread was incredibly fun to read though, given that Puck, IF (and Cage) are favorites of mine. Glad i took a look in here.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
The bars and "klang" sound effect were there for a reason.

thumb up

I do agree with KM on the part that it was a decent durability feat for Puck, though.

JayDaDon
Originally posted by cdtm
And Claremont's the one who wrote that, who wrote a particularly powerful Iron Fist.

While the guy who wrote the beat down was Danny's original writer BEFORE Claremont got him and seriously powered him up, plus an editor and chief. Not only was his IF much weaker when he originally wrote him, but you'd think an editor with his stripes would know the Crew's power levels....

In a similar vein, that Bendis example you mentioned earlier is funny since Bendis also had Danny punch Skaar across the room.

True, but the IF still has plenty of those insane high end feats to rest its hat on so its average has got to be damn high anyway.

leonidas
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
thumb up

I do agree with KM on the part that it was a decent durability feat for Puck, though.

no doubt.

-K-M-
Darn tootin as Iron Fist took out BT with 3 regular kicks

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Power%20Man%20and%20Iron%20Fist%202016-%20002-010.jpg
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