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By feats only, and regular versions of both characters, no amps applied. Who is the stronger?

Opinions...........

Thanos.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thanos.

THIS FOOL!!!

Thanos might be stronger but he doesn't have any lifting feats

Thanos by far.

Originally posted by golem370
Thanos might be stronger but he doesn't have any lifting feats

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111205162/5082785-10b8c7.jpg

Thanos would get annihilated by a sun-amped Superman--or even a regular one that stops holding back.

So Darkseid, easily.

^^^Well, those opinions were presented VERY confidently! I'm sold...

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Thanos would get annihilated by a sun-amped Superman--or even a regular one that stops holding back.

So Darkseid, easily. haha, this noob.

Darkseid

Odd that you'd pick a DC character...

Thanos

Thanos had a stalemte with Depowered Tyrant in the strength department went toe to toe with Thor with the power gem.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Thanos is much stronger.

thanos

Originally posted by golem370
Thanos had a stalemte with Depowered Tyrant in the strength department went toe to toe with Thor with the power gem.
Didnt know about the Thor feat. Nice.

Originally posted by riv6672
Didnt know about the Thor feat. Nice. And you might also not know that Thor was fully bloodlusted and far more powerful compared to his average levels even before getting the gem.

Blood lusted. K.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
And you might also not know that Thor was fully bloodlusted and far more powerful compared to his average levels even before getting the gem.
That's rubbish. He wasn't holding back and had an adrenaline boost.

Even with the gem, he wasn't as strong as you're claiming to be.

And Darkseid has manhandled Orion and Superman like nothing. That's above the paygrade of Thanos.

Yeah Thanos is stronger.

Thanos holds his own about a bloodlusted power gem Thor who's strength was growing by the minute.

Normal Thor gives Superman the fight of his life, the same Superman Darksied can't handle regularly.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's rubbish. He wasn't holding back and had an adrenaline boost.

Even with the gem, he wasn't as strong as you're claiming to be.

And Darkseid has manhandled Orion and Superman like nothing. That's above the paygrade of Thanos. False.

Darkseid has tapped out against Superman. Orion ripped through his chest. Raker humiliated him one on one. Thanos takes on Odin. Darkseid can't even take on Doomsday.

Just my conjecture but there isn't a single writer on Earth that would ever have Superman look good in an altercation with Thanos. Not even DC ones. I think portrayal has to count for something here.

Dmills http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon12.gif

Welcome back, bro.

Originally posted by dmills
Just my conjecture but there isn't a single writer on Earth that would ever have Superman look good in an altercation with Thanos. Not even DC ones. I think portrayal has to count for something here.
There isn't a writer who would made Thanos look superior to Superman in strength just like they do against Hulk. Even Starlin respects Superman so much.

You are simply not aware of the reputation of the character if you think no writer will allow Superman to beat the ****ing shit out of Thanos if say universe was in danger. Pit him against Grant Morrison or Joe Casey's Superman and see what happens.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Yeah Thanos is stronger.

Thanos holds his own about a bloodlusted power gem Thor who's strength was growing by the minute.

And Regular Thor was stated to be a tough fight for Thanos in the very same issue. Thanos was on the losing end anyway.



Normal Thor can give Thanos a fight too.

Superman has a clean victory against Thor. Thanos still doesn't.

Darkseid is easily stronger. He's portrayed either peers or above Superman every time. Superman is stronger than Thanos.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And Regular Thor was stated to be a tough fight for Thanos in the very same issue. Thanos was on the losing end anyway.



Normal Thor can give Thanos a fight too.

Superman has a clean victory against Thor. Thanos still doesn't.

Dude..

http://oi58.tinypic.com/24noa6p.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
False.

Darkseid has tapped out against Superman. Orion ripped through his chest. Raker humiliated him one on one. Thanos takes on Odin. Darkseid can't even take on Doomsday.



Truth!

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Dude..

http://oi58.tinypic.com/24noa6p.jpg
Thor was never shown to be koed there.Originally posted by TheHulkster
Truth!
The same Thanos who gets his shit pushed in by Ultimates? Who can't even beat the current Drax in a fist fight?

That Thanos?

Yeah, that guy. He's stronger.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There isn't a writer who would made Thanos look superior to Superman in strength just like they do against Hulk. Even Starlin respects Superman so much.

You are simply not aware of the reputation of the character if you think no writer will allow Superman to beat the ****ing shit out of Thanos if say universe was in danger. Pit him against Grant Morrison or Joe Casey's Superman and see what happens.

Casey or Morrison would have Thanos beat the dog shit out of Superman just like every other writer on Earth. That's what would happen. Don't @ me.

^^^Yeah they would; that'd be just like them.

Originally posted by dmills
Casey or Morrison would have Thanos beat the dog shit out of Superman. That's what would happen. Don't @ me.
Haha, no. Thanos isn't that big of a deal outside Starlin's writing. This happened just recently.



http://i.imgur.com/GyjFMmxh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0rSgNYGh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/K85z3UEh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8KkaUyph.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gxzlPNOh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2NSu10Th.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YNueRZOh.jpg

They gangbanged him like a two bit whore.

I don't even have to bring high end Superman feats like ripping Doomsday in half or shit like that. Don't be grumpy, we are not talking about Dick Rider or Silver Eunuch here.

Thanosi

Originally posted by dmills
Thanosi
That's Waid writing Ka-zar beating the everloving shit out of Thanos.

Imagine Waid writing Thanos vs Superman, Superman would probably knock him out by his pinky finger.

Thanos pops on the scene looking like Cable in 1991. Smh. Glad I haven't read a Marvel book in almost 3 years. Horrible writing.

That team had a few heavy hitters but damn Thanos got his ass beat

Who are those people?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And Regular Thor was stated to be a tough fight for Thanos in the very same issue. Thanos was on the losing end anyway.



Normal Thor can give Thanos a fight too.

Superman has a clean victory against Thor. Thanos still doesn't. pity normal is never shown to be a tough fight for Thanos. Thanos had a bloody nose from PG Thor that's it, Superman was a knackered mess.

Thanos beat Thor and thing together in his weakest incarnation. And he had Thor beat easily in infinity but was saved by Thanes interference.

Haha Abhi using g the Bendis Ultimates issue, yet ignores what happens in the other ultimates issue

What happened?

Originally posted by dmills
What happened? they admit he'd kill them all if they continued fighting him as he was too powerful as he's beating them all down. So they whip up a plot device to subdue his mind.

All this happens in issue 12 iirc.

So a super weakened Thanos who needs guns to fight against mid tiers? And bound by extreme PIS?

kay. Darkseid wins against this Thanos.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
they admit he'd kill them all if they continued fighting him as he was too powerful as he's beating them all down. So they whip up a plot device to subdue his mind.

All this happens in issue 12 iirc. True, the second fight BP and BM outsmarted him FTW (a good feat in itself) rather than beat him down. But it remains that in the first fight they were able to physically beat him down and KO him although one team member was killed in the process. Still, comprehensively beating Thanos twice, once physically and once by improvising and both pretty quickly, is impressive.

On the other hand Darkseid is hard to compare with all the inconsistencies under different writers and different versions, preboot etc. A while back I might have given Thanos an edge but these days maybe the other way.

Originally posted by basilisk
True, the second fight BP and BM outsmarted him FTW (a good feat in itself) rather than beat him down. But it remains that in the first fight they were able to physically beat him down and KO him although one team member was killed in the process. Still, comprehensively beating Thanos twice, once physically and once by improvising and both pretty quickly, is impressive.

On the other hand Darkseid is hard to compare with all the inconsistencies under different writers and different versions, preboot etc. A while back I might have given Thanos an edge but these days maybe the other way. typical of you to ignore the fact they had the element of surprise the first time and for some reaso Thanos needed guns. Lol at comprehensively beating him twice.

In the second fight they were nothing physically to Thanos and needed a plot device that could only work once to win.

Originally posted by dmills
Thanos pops on the scene looking like Cable in 1991. Smh. Glad I haven't read a Marvel book in almost 3 years. Horrible writing. Originally posted by dmills
Who are those people?
Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, Spectrum and Black Panther along with Inhumans. Originally posted by Insane Titan
pity normal is never shown to be a tough fight for Thanos. Thanos had a bloody nose from PG Thor that's it, Superman was a knackered mess.

Thanos beat Thor and thing together in his weakest incarnation. And he had Thor beat easily in infinity but was saved by Thanes interference.
Of course he has been.

Superman wasn't even bloody. And funny how you disregard Thor being stated as a tough fight for Thanos but take Superman's word on face value.

Not via strength. In fact they whooped his ass and he had to resort to energy attacks and Thor was conscious after several attacks.

Again not by raw strength. Thanos has never manhandled a top tier like Orion like this.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/TheLegion029-18.jpg

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Haha Abhi using g the Bendis Ultimates issue, yet ignores what happens in the other ultimates issue
Different writers.

Cry more. Originally posted by apex_pretador
So a super weakened Thanos who needs guns to fight against mid tiers? And bound by extreme PIS?

kay. Darkseid wins against this Thanos.
Where is he stated to be weakened? In fact he prepped for that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Different writers.

Cry more.
Where is he stated to be weakened? In fact he prepped for that.
He prepped for guns?
A guy who preps for galactus and owns him in mere moments with his bombs, prepped for guns which can't even vaporize she hulk and war machine?
Seems legit.

And he was stated to be weakened by travelling through some portal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, Spectrum and Black Panther along with Inhumans.
Of course he has been.

Superman wasn't even bloody. And funny how you disregard Thor being stated as a tough fight for Thanos but take Superman's word on face value.

Not via strength. In fact they whooped his ass and he had to resort to energy attacks and Thor was conscious after several attacks.

Again not by raw strength. Thanos has never manhandled a top tier like Orion like this.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/TheLegion029-18.jpg Superman was barely able to stand after the fight.

Pity Thor on his has not been shown to be actual fight for Thanos as infinity shows.

Haha whooped his ass, they knocked him over that's it. Thor was on his knees about to be finished by Thanos.

He mandated Lord Marvell with ease , and dismisses Hulk and Drax with a simple back hand when he's serious.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Different writers.

Cry more.
Where is he stated to be weakened? In fact he prepped for that. same story following on from previous events.

Yeah you cry more if you think it helps your case.

My gawd this place hasn't changed one bit 😂

Originally posted by dmills
My gawd this place hasn't changed one bit 😂

You're right!

Richard Rider is STILL dead!

Originally posted by dmills
My gawd this place hasn't changed one bit 😂 it has, it's got worse.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it has, it's got worse.

I will say that I could've sworn that if/when I ever returned here that some of the Superman phuckery would've been under control. It's seems worse than ever.

I guess questions will be answered soon:

https://www.inverse.com/article/22519-marvel-thanos-infinity-wars-solo-comic

Originally posted by TheHulkster
I guess questions will be answered soon:

https://www.inverse.com/article/22519-marvel-thanos-infinity-wars-solo-comic

Holy shit is that The Champion?

Originally posted by dmills
Holy shit is that The Champion?

That's what I was wondering.

This is also not his first ongoing:

http://www.newsarama.com/31654-first-look-thanos-is-back-in-his-first-ongoing-series.html

Probably a poor use of wording in that description. If your brother (Eros) is your "offspring" then yeah, you do have some serious family drama going on there.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
I guess questions will be answered soon:

https://www.inverse.com/article/22519-marvel-thanos-infinity-wars-solo-comic champion looks like Lobo there.

Like the art on Thanos though..

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're right!

Richard Rider is STILL dead!
Richard Rider was one cool character

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Richard Rider was one cool character

He was but his greatest feat is that his death led to the collapse of the Nova Clan here at KMC!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
He was but his greatest feat is that his death led to the collapse of the Nova Clan here at KMC! Blame thanos

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Blame thanos

No, for this SINGLE instance of destroying an enemy clan...

PRAISE THANOS!!!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
No, for this SINGLE instance of destroying an enemy clan...

PRAISE THANOS!!!
I'm a Thanos fan, so I praise him for all instances.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
I'm a Thanos fan, so I praise him for all instances.

You've gone too far now!

LOL

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
He was but his greatest feat is that his death led to the collapse of the Nova Clan here at KMC!

That feat goes to Brian Michael Bendis.

Originally posted by dmills
That feat goes to Brian Michael Bendis.

Nevertheless, Your clan is no more and The House Of El is TRIUMPHANT!!!

It is good to see you back though.

Originally posted by dmills
That feat goes to Brian Michael Bendis. Bendis didn't write Thanos imperative. Did he?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You've gone too far now!

Originally posted by apex_pretador
Bendis didn't write Thanos imperative. Did he?



No. But he wrote the clusterphuck of an explanation for what happened in the aftermath. That's what I was referring to

Originally posted by dmills
No. But he wrote the clusterphuck of an explanation for what happened in the aftermath. That's what I was referring to
What was that?

All fail lies in Bendis

Originally posted by apex_pretador
What was that?

In his guardians of the galaxy run. I forget which issue it was. Which says a lot because I used to be known as the Nova guy around here.

Rider got his arm chopped off by evil Cap's shield toss (which for some reason he couldn't heal). Then he said some shit about how he always wanted kids, got the cosmic cube and I guess he sent Starlord, Drax and Thanos back to 616 and then wished himself out of existence or some shit. Hot garbage.

Darkseid is stronger imo.

Thread is kind of borked, tbh.

Most "standard" versions of Darkseid people like to use, aren't even Darkseid. Do we use his true form? Or something else? He doesn't have as consistent a baseline as someone like Thanos, imo.

And when he jobs again, he'll get a truer form... and so on

It's one of those deals like "Doombots" or "Thanosi"?

Sorta similar, yeah. Just worse.

Desaad, avatars, non-true form, etc. Darkseid is the God of Excuses.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And when he jobs again, he'll get a truer form... and so on

How else do you deal with stupid writers? Retcons have their uses.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, Spectrum and Black Panther along with Inhumans.
Of course he has been.

Superman wasn't even bloody. And funny how you disregard Thor being stated as a tough fight for Thanos but take Superman's word on face value.

Not via strength. In fact they whooped his ass and he had to resort to energy attacks and Thor was conscious after several attacks.

Again not by raw strength. Thanos has never manhandled a top tier like Orion like this.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/TheLegion029-18.jpg He has manhandled the Hulk better than this.

Read some Thanos, kid.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Dude..

http://oi58.tinypic.com/24noa6p.jpg Abhi lives in his own spandex colored world.

Facts always end him.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
He prepped for guns?
A guy who preps for galactus and owns him in mere moments with his bombs, prepped for guns which can't even vaporize she hulk and war machine?
Seems legit.

And he was stated to be weakened by travelling through some portal.
Yes, why not.

No, he wasn't.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Superman was barely able to stand after the fight.

Because he actually beat Thor. Anyway, one fight with Thor isn't Superman's sole source of strength feats.



Just like Thor isn't Superman's toughest fight. But you accept it because it suits you.



Thanos was on his knees too about to be finished by Thor and Thing by that example.

I'll wait when he can actually KO Thor.



Mar-Vell has simply no strength feats to speak of. He backhanded them and they were not even knocked down.

Its a non feat.

Superman got his ass kicked by Thor. Thanos laughs him off. Abhi is lost. Superman was gangbanged by the avengers after he could barely stand. Poor abhi.

Guys, no crossovers, no bashing, please.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman got his ass kicked by Thor. Thanos laughs him off. Abhi is lost. Superman was gangbanged by the avengers after he could barely stand. Poor abhi.

Why are you using a cross over fight to make a point? A point you're failing miserably at by the way. After all, you just admitted that Thor got beat by Kal in that fight. Then while he was weakened, the Avengers jump him.

You do know that was a bad example to use right?

Originally posted by SquallX
Why are you using a cross over fight to make a point? A point you're failing miserably at by the way. After all, you just admitted that Thor got beat by Kal in that fight. Then while he was weakened, the Avengers jump him.

You do know that was a bad example to use right? It was being discussed. If you can't follow along within a thread maybe this is too difficult for you. So superman can't take more than Thor on without help. Thanos would crush him. He's small time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he actually beat Thor. Anyway, one fight with Thor isn't Superman's sole source of strength feats.



Just like Thor isn't Superman's toughest fight. But you accept it because it suits you.



Thanos was on his knees too about to be finished by Thor and Thing by that example.

I'll wait when he can actually KO Thor.



Mar-Vell has simply no strength feats to speak of. He backhanded them and they were not even knocked down.

Its a non feat.

Why is a KOing Thor the standard? All we need to know is that he tunes up high heralds quite often and stands and bangs with trans and sky fathers.

Originally posted by dmills
Why is a KOing Thor the standard? All we need to know is that he tunes up high heralds quite often and stands and bangs with trans and sky fathers.
You are literally describing Superman there.

Lol you'd love that.

That's how Superman works. He is not a static character whose power level are set in stone.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he actually beat Thor. Anyway, one fight with Thor isn't Superman's sole source of strength feats.



Just like Thor isn't Superman's toughest fight. But you accept it because it suits you.



Thanos was on his knees too about to be finished by Thor and Thing by that example.

I'll wait when he can actually KO Thor.



Mar-Vell has simply no strength feats to speak of. He backhanded them and they were not even knocked down.

Its a non feat. Thanos has beat Thor. Because it's someone they've both faced to compare.

Superman knackered look said otherwise, unlike Thanos who was fine.

Haha, they couldn't even hurt him hitting him together.

It took superman shit loads of punches after a long fight to ko Thor. Thanos koed Thor in infinity after only a few punches.

Marvell energy amped punches through Novas full grav shields. His punch had no affect on Thanos

I'm bored with replying on the same argument over and over and pr has said no crossovers.

Good luck with your routine.

Darkseid is stronger.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm bored with replying on the same argument over and over and pr has said no crossovers.

Good luck with your routine.

Darkseid is stronger. irony

***** made excuse

Nah Thanos is as proven.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Thread is kind of borked, tbh.

Most "standard" versions of Darkseid people like to use, aren't even Darkseid. Do we use his true form? Or something else? He doesn't have as consistent a baseline as someone like Thanos, imo. I think this sums it up really. DS is difficult to pin down in a comparison like this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are literally describing Superman there.

False, since WW has taken him on despite amps and full out rage. He's a strength peer to Marvel. He's just a top tier like Thor. Thanos is the reason guys like superman need to join a team.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False, since WW has taken him on despite amps and full out rage. He's a strength peer to Marvel. He's just a top tier like Thor. Thanos is the reason guys like superman need to join a team.

Originally posted by dmills
In his guardians of the galaxy run. I forget which issue it was. Which says a lot because I used to be known as the Nova guy around here.

Rider got his arm chopped off by evil Cap's shield toss (which for some reason he couldn't heal). Then he said some shit about how he always wanted kids, got the cosmic cube and I guess he sent Starlord, Drax and Thanos back to 616 and then wished himself out of existence or some shit. Hot garbage.
That some ridiculous nonsense.

Do either of these two losers even have any lifting feats?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do either of these two losers even have any lifting feats?
Well, Thanos has and he isn't a loser.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do either of these two losers even have any lifting feats? Thanos is Thanos.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm bored with replying on the same argument over and over and pr has said no crossovers.

Good luck with your routine.

Darkseid is stronger.

Only DS isn't stronger, and nothing you presented says otherwise. Thanos and generally portrayed is villain that teams need to be formed to stop. That is his M.O. He's generally always portrayed as above the strong types like Thor or Hulk or Thing or the lot. He just casually deals with them.

I love how Abhi says Thanos hasn't beaten Thor straight up, when that is EXACTLY what he has done numerous times. He beat Thor and Thing easily. He later beat Thor in Infinity, and again easily. Stop trying to act like Thor wasn't KO'd and therefore Thanos didn't beat him. That is being blatantly disingenuous. Thanos treat Thor like a feeb. He literally took his lighting and asked for more. He casually caught his hammer strike as if it was nothing. Then tossed him aside like a mere nuisance. Yet somehow, Thanos didn't come across as more powerful? Right....

This thread belongs to thanos, and easily

You as usual know nothing about either character and are just speaking gibberish.

No, Thanos is not stronger. You are welcome to post scans and prove otherwise though. And Thanos hasn't beaten Thor via pure strength.

Darkseid.