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No prep.
No BFR.
Hercules has his mace.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5924/1009/1600/Krypto.jpg

Hercules beats krypto into the ground.

How much does Krypto weigh? Either way, it rips Hercules to shreds in a nanosecond.

I'm not sure how powerful current Krypto is. I know that post crisis Superman had to step in to stop Krypto from tearing out Mongul's throat though.

Krypto bites him thousand times before he can react

Originally posted by Dareangel
Krypto bites him thousand times before he can react

Scans of him doing something like this. We don't make up fts on KMC.

Originally posted by deathslash
Hercules beats krypto into the ground.

Lol.

^^^Not sure if Herc is a dog lover, so maybe. i know he loves pussy (cats).

Krypto eats him

Maybe.

The Mongul feat sounds impressive, but he's not biting him a thousand times a second, either.

He also dished out some of Atlas's attacks, too.

Krypto, whilst being blasted with all kinds of different Kryptonite, nearly ripped Atlas' throat out, himself a magic being IIRC.

Speedblitzed and took out all of Superboys' rogue gallery

Actually hurt Superboy Prime, when no one else could, in broad daylight.

And Mongul, of course.

Carver, he's fast enough to surprise even Superman. So taking his best biting feats, and allying it to his best speed feats, gives me his base level

He outflew Bart Allen.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Krypto, whilst being blasted with all kinds of different Kryptonite, nearly ripped Atlas' throat out, himself a magic being IIRC.

Speedblitzed and took out all of Superboys' rogue gallery

Actually hurt Superboy Prime, when no one else could, in broad daylight.

And Mongul, of course.

Carver, he's fast enough to surprise even Superman. So taking his best biting feats, and allying it to his best speed feats, gives me his base level

Yeah, Atlas is a magical being. The Atom (Ray Palmer) was asked to create a device to pluck anyone in time to defeat Superman. The device plucked Atlas from the time stream and the reason he defeated Superman, was because of magic.

Rsy must have been having an off day.

Originally posted by carver9
Scans of him doing something like this. We don't make up fts on KMC.

actually it was a joke, but i still believe he will own.

Isnt Krypto already Owned?

also krypto saved all star superman from kal kent, tackled him and actually distracted him for a brief period of time. krypto did better vs superman 1 million than all star superman.. i think its a very nice feat

Thats a good doggie. Impressive!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Krypto, whilst being blasted with all kinds of different Kryptonite, nearly ripped Atlas' throat out, himself a magic being IIRC.

Speedblitzed and took out all of Superboys' rogue gallery

Actually hurt Superboy Prime, when no one else could, in broad daylight.

And Mongul, of course.

Carver, he's fast enough to surprise even Superman. So taking his best biting feats, and allying it to his best speed feats, gives me his base level

Hulk base level is High Herald.

put any really big, strong human in a cage with a biggest most ferocious dog you can think of. now give the guy a baseball bat but increase the dos's speed by a 100x (maybe a 1000x would be better) and give the dog laser eyes and the ability to fly. who do you think will win.....?

Originally posted by leonidas
with a biggest most ferocious dog you can think of

https://67.media.tumblr.com/d8ad5a62c1bee63b48b3fbe7cfee3a79/tumblr_nkoekqI1cf1rk7w2qo1_500.jpg

His name is "Hulk" and I'm not even kidding haermm

that is awesome.... i don't like herc's odds against THAT thing, let alone krypto...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://67.media.tumblr.com/d8ad5a62c1bee63b48b3fbe7cfee3a79/tumblr_nkoekqI1cf1rk7w2qo1_500.jpg

His name is "Hulk" and I'm not even kidding haermm
Well if he's a Hulk then he's well below a Kryptonian dog...

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk base level is High Herald.

O....k?

SBP is trans level at base.

Krypto actually drew blood from him, in broad sunlight.

He's fast enough to outspeed Bart Allen.

So we have him able to draw blood, AND have superspeed.

Think, carver. Why CAN'T he just bite at superspeed?

Your response: Scans.

My response: This isn't the Flash, where a flurry of punches is less than one strong punch. A bite is a bite.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
O....k?

SBP is trans level at base.

Krypto actually drew blood from him, in broad sunlight.

He's fast enough to outspeed Bart Allen.

So we have him able to draw blood, AND have superspeed.

Think, carver. Why CAN'T he just bite at superspeed?

Your response: Scans.

My response: This isn't the Flash, where a flurry of punches is less than one strong punch. A bite is a bite.

I never said he couldn't Bite at Super speed but biting Hercules a thousand times before he can react require scans. Also, stop trying to rehash old argument. Let's stay on track.

You're the one bringing Hulk up, so not sure who you're trying to convince....

Hulk isn't even in this thread!

He has super speed, and he can bite. He also does not hold back.

Krypto wins. He is to Superman what a fierce attack dog is to us.

How does Herc fare against feral fighters?

i hate that scene...... herc's only chance here would be if he himself went into his berserker rage, which is a very rare thing. krypto can be a deadly to a lot of opponents.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're the one bringing Hulk up, so not sure who you're trying to convince....

Hulk isn't even in this thread!

He has super speed, and he can bite. He also does not hold back.

Krypto wins. He is to Superman what a fierce attack dog is to us.

Hulk was brought up because you are trying rekindled an argument we had with the character.

Hercules wins.

Not rekindling anything.

I have scans of his biting strength.

I have scans of his speed.

I do not need to show the exact scenario you ask for. Krypto is Krypto. They are one and the same.

Anyway, it seems this place needs scans, like Mars needs Moms.

Outspeeding Kid Flash and Superboy:
http://imgur.com/1Y4yxsk
http://i.imgur.com/K278srq.jpg

Catching Superman by surprise with his reaction speeds:
http://imgur.com/dUgpVwH

He's fast. And he goes for the attack.

We'll need to see SOME piercing feats from Herc, btw.

Krypto FTW

The fight with Atlas, a magical super strong brick. Krypto was also being hit by...was it various forms of Kryptonite? I forget. Anyways:

http://imgur.com/a/9wOU7

And Atlas is definitely on par with Hercules.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

We'll need to see SOME piercing feats from Herc, btw.

http://imgur.com/a/t96Pq

http://imgur.com/a/e5vqv

but....marvel amazons don't have krypto's strength of course, and their weapons aren't as unbreakable as krypto's teeth. he has been badly cut by a magic axe wielded by zeus.

i think a more relevant exampled tbh is this:

http://static9.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111132618/3454695-1630793-thor_vs_wolverine_2.jpg

logan wasn't able to do appreciable damage to thor with just a couple hits, but he was able to cut him and logan certainly doesn't have the strength of a kryptonian. and while kyrpto's teeth=/=adamantium in this case they wouldn't have to be. they would be plenty strong enough and coupled with the dog's speed....

much as i hate to say it, i could see a bloodlusted speed blitz for herc's throat that would end badly for herc....

i could perhaps see killing krypto by grabbing him by the neck and snapping it, but given krypto's speed and range powers, not to mention strength, in a forum setting hard to make a logical argument for hercules.

Lol, of those scans, leo - your first one shows Delphyne's (the Gorgon) snake teeth breaking Herc's skin. Krypto would do far more damage.

True, and let's be honest, Herc has SOME experience with fighting animals. But it's more in character for Krypto to go for the literal jugular, than it is for Herc to snap a dog's neck.

Especially if that dog is super strong, super fast, and yes, has HV that is pretty potent itself.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Anyway, it seems this place needs scans, like Mars needs Moms.

Outspeeding Kid Flash and Superboy:
http://imgur.com/1Y4yxsk
http://i.imgur.com/K278srq.jpg

Catching Superman by surprise with his reaction speeds:
http://imgur.com/dUgpVwH

He's fast. And he goes for the attack.

We'll need to see SOME piercing feats from Herc, btw.

Glad those humans saw him running alongside Kid flash and Superboy.

Originally posted by carver9
Glad those humans saw him running alongside Kid flash and Superboy.

Krypto also stalemated an Imperiex Probe

Lol

I'm not seeing those snake bites breaking the skin at all.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, of those scans, leo - your first one shows Delphyne's (the Gorgon) snake teeth breaking Herc's skin. Krypto would do far more damage.

True, and let's be honest, Herc has SOME experience with fighting animals. But it's more in character for Krypto to go for the literal jugular, than it is for Herc to snap a dog's neck.

Especially if that dog is super strong, super fast, and yes, has HV that is pretty potent itself.

i agree, it's tough to take herc in this. but you're right he def has some real experience with animals, most notably the nemean lion and of course one of his oldest foes, cerberus:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/54353/2382634- hercules___fighting_cerberus_during_12th_labor_pan
el_color_med.jpg

http://imgur.com/a/wP8hZ

http://imgur.com/a/lva2Q

but again, the speed issue is tough in a forum setting to overcome.... maybe this isn't quite as lopsided as i initially thought, but it's still tough to make a solid case for herc. krypto has a solid advantage here.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/iip8ohedvxwy9bzvbz82.png

Best Krypto moment of all time

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Best Krypto moment of all time
You're a sick, sick, man.

Originally posted by zopzop
You're a sick, sick, man.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3mEP65qhbsA/hqdefault.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3mEP65qhbsA/hqdefault.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're the one bringing Hulk up, so not sure who you're trying to convince....

Hulk isn't even in this thread!

He has super speed, and he can bite. He also does not hold back.

Krypto wins. He is to Superman what a fierce attack dog is to us.
I want to say Carver's right (about the scans), but you do make a lot of sense here, and thats okay with me; i dont believe scans are always a deciding factor in every debate.

Oh, carver only uses that argument when it suits him. In others, if he doesn't have the scan to support his case, then he's all for using logic and extrapolation to make his case.

Which, for the record, I am perfectly ok with.

As long as it is consistent. I don't have scans, say, of Batman pooping; does that mean he doesn't, even though all the evidence points to him being a normal human who does?

Krypto is fast enough to outspeed Kid Flash and Superboy. No amount of nitpicking by carver changes that.

He has fought and done pretty well against a magical super brick in Atlas, WHILST being hit by Kryptonite rays. It only made him more rabidly angry.

He has HV, which is powerful enough to make a noticeable difference when added to Superman's (that is to say, it is no small thing).

He has hurt SBP in broad daylight, when he was casually punching people's heads off (Ie not holding back; not that he does).

On the other hand, Herc has been hurt by relatively much weaker teeth. Been defeated by a berserk Wolverine (a much weaker, slower feral fighter).

Not to mention, in character, Krypto gives it his all in fights. Sometimes, too much. Whereas Herc isn't snapping animal necks mid fight.

For these reasons, and others, I give it to Krypto.

Thanks for the reply.
I do believe Herc would snap an animal neck if needed, though, but i think Krypto takes this fight thanks to your logic/extrapolation.

Speaking of, there is a LOT of fan art of Batman pooping online!
This is the closest i found that may considered canon though:
https://readrant.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/i-have-to-use-the-bathroom.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Krypto also stalemated an Imperiex Probe

Nope that never happened. He blasted the Imperiex-Probe and it took notice of Krypto only because it was building one of those hollowers in Antartica. Krypto was going to die in a matter of seconds if Superman didn't arrive. Still it showed how brave he is, I don't think anyone doubts that tho.

Oh, carver told me so, so it must be true. He is the expert on that storyline.

Krypto snuck attacked Prime and really didn't do much. Superboy did far more damage against Prime and I would put Herc above SB. Here is the scan.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111144184/4391837-9379983267-18490.jpg

Snuck attack a guy who tangles with Flashes?

And what does sneak attacks have to do against....PIERCING durability? Its not like you bracing against a punch, lol.

You're telling me if Prime braced for it, Krypto's teeth can't break his skin?

Scans.

Good showing for Krypto. I forget how bad ass he is.

Took several hits from SBP too, and again, this was in broad daylight....we later saw how one FINGER of sunlight was enough to rejuvenate him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://67.media.tumblr.com/d8ad5a62c1bee63b48b3fbe7cfee3a79/tumblr_nkoekqI1cf1rk7w2qo1_500.jpg

His name is "Hulk" and I'm not even kidding haermm

>pictures where you just know.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Took several hits from SBP too, and again, this was in broad daylight....we later saw how one FINGER of sunlight was enough to rejuvenate him.

Yea i peeped that. I kinda feel like Krypto should be a serious threat. His should be faster than supes among other natural gifts a dog would have over a humanoid

Easily. He's the equivalent of a Super K-9 unit.

His breed seems to keep changing. Is he a lab?

He looks like a roided out terrier. Probably a jack russel

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His breed seems to keep changing.

Size is inconsistent, too.

Or maybe he's a shapeshifter

Well...that SBP feat was a bit overrated.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Krypto, whilst being blasted with all kinds of different Kryptonite, nearly ripped Atlas' throat out, himself a magic being IIRC.

Speedblitzed and took out all of Superboys' rogue gallery

Actually hurt Superboy Prime, when no one else could, in broad daylight.

And Mongul, of course.

Carver, he's fast enough to surprise even Superman. So taking his best biting feats, and allying it to his best speed feats, gives me his base level

Yeah I remember them hitting this f*cking dog with satellite laser beams from space and shit.

I'm still thinking Krypto takes this, but if Herc can grab his ass, he'd snap him.
Krypto 7/10 imo.

Whats the win ratio of an average sized man against an average sized dog

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Whats the win ratio of an average sized man against an average sized dog
Man, 100%

Luckily for Krypto that's not what's happening here.

Michael Vick would look like a saint compared to what Hercules would do to Krypto.

It's your averaged sized dog with super speed and heat vision. Herc dies.

Originally posted by Zack M
Herc dies.

Immortality...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Whats the win ratio of an average sized man against an average sized dog
Originally posted by zopzop
Man, 100%

Luckily for Krypto that's not what's happening here.
Luckily for Herc, too.
Analogies like this only goes so far dealing with metas.

Originally posted by riv6672
Well...that SBP feat was a bit overrated.

Respectfully disagree.

In that storyline, no one else did as much damage to SBP. Not the GLs, not the two Supermen (until they used the red sun), not BA, not the multiple Flashes etc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Respectfully disagree.

In that storyline, no one else did as much damage to SBP. Not the GLs, not the two Supermen (until they used the red sun), not BA, not the multiple Flashes etc.

That's just a lie though.

Who else drew that amount of blood in the storyline?

That was a good bite, but really didnt "do" much.
That said, Herc would not have the same (lack of) reaction i dont think.

To play both sides, he's got pretty good pain tolerance.

^^^He's worn a skirt most of his adult life, it stands to reason.

Originally posted by carver9
Scans of him doing something like this. We don't make up fts on KMC. Ahh...This fills my heart with warmth

^^^Thanks for the bump.

Originally posted by riv6672
That was a good bite, but really didnt "do" much.
That said, Herc would not have the same (lack of) reaction i dont think.

Agreed. Had they been facing each other, he would have gone for the throat.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111126230/3371308-2110522082-17280.gif

Reason I posted the SBP feat, though, was to highlight his biting power. We all know in comics, piercing and blunt force durability are treated differently - which is Herc's downfall in terms of supporting feats.

^^^Agreed.
I was already giving Krypto 7/10 prior to the bump, though. Thats all you get!