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Pride, Lust, Greed, Envy, Sloth, Gluttony, Wrath

Which is the worst?

IMO it's unquestionably pride.

Well yeah, they do say pride is the root of all the other sins.

Plus remember the episode of Supernatural with the 7 deadly sins? Pride seemed to be the strongest.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well yeah, they do say pride is the root of all the other sins.

Plus remember the episode of Supernatural with the 7 deadly sins? Pride seemed to be the strongest.
Same in FMA brotherhood.

Just from a purely philosophical non-religion based perspective, you could argue pride is the worst.

Pride makes the biggest ******* atheists, and the biggest ******* religion people. It allows people to justify any immoral action to themselves while preventing them to understand their own flaws and wrongdoing, it is the source of discrimination, it corrupts religion from something that should focus on love and humility into something people use to make themselves feel superior to everyone else, and it's the source of the vast majority of unjustified wars.

Whichever one Bane had.

Ah yes Ellimist. More evidence as to how terrible egotistical ****s can be

You enjoy it when people do it to KotoR II/TOR, lol.

Gluttony. Fat people are gross.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Gluttony. Fat people are gross.

I dunno man, what's so gross about this?

http://cdn.evilware.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/obese-az-woman.jpg

Gotta say envy.

Yeah it's definitely pride IMO. Every act of evil stems from the belief that what someone wants justifies the hurting of others, which requires someone to think of themselves as being more important than other people. Ironically enough pride seems to stem from self-loathing.

Can't these sins be dependent on one another? Like my pride leads to greed and wrath. My greed and sloth lead to envy. My envy, greed, and lust lead to wrath.


Can't some of these be just flat out synonymous?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Can't these sins be dependent on one another? Like my pride leads to greed and wrath. My greed and sloth lead to envy. My envy, greed, and lust lead to wrath.


Can't some of these be just flat out synonymous?
Oh yeah, something I realized recently is that a lot of good things are different manifestations of the same thing, and a lot of bad things are different manifestations of the same thing.

Connection manifests through choice, purpose, power, knowledge, peace, love, communication and happiness.

Disconnection manifests through ignorance, fear, shame, self-loathing, loneliness, arrogance, hatred, and censorship.

Nothing wrong with pride.

When people are arrogant, they not only unfairly hurt others to try and justify some sense of superiority, they lie to themselves about their flaws, which isn't only unfair to others, it's unfair to themselves as well.

Ant.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Whichever one Bane had.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nothing wrong with pride.

Tell that to Hilary Clinton.

Originally posted by Surtur
Tell that to Hilary Clinton.
Or Trump. One of the things that made Bernie someone I'd be legitimately proud to call my president was his humility.

Originally posted by Surtur
I dunno man, what's so gross about this?

http://cdn.evilware.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/obese-az-woman.jpg

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Or Trump. One of the things that made Bernie someone I'd be legitimately proud to call my president was his humility.

I know, it's almost as if those dickish corrupt liberals shouldn't of f*cked Berhie over. Some might say he had less of a chance, but he also he wouldn't have been so utterly riddled with scandals and corruption.

Oh liberals and them being their own worst enemies.

http://www.thegospeltruthministry.com/FAQs/theworstsin.htm

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Envy is a pretty bad one, considering how much conflict tends to arise simply because one guy wants shit another guy has.

Originally posted by riv6672
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vSAHkXWQOag/TYrcPqp2GHI/AAAAAAAAAHY/GdbnOALnWZk/s1600/7+Deadly+Sins+-SKC.jpg That Spongebob occupies the Lust position makes me wonder why my fanfic never took off.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Envy is a pretty bad one, considering how much conflict tends to arise simply because one guy wants shit another guy has.
That was my thinking, yeah.
Envy begets quite a few of the other sins, IMO.
You get mad (wrath) because you're envious of others and what they have.
You want (lust) what they have.
You think you deserve (pride) those things.
You're too lazy (sloth) to work hard for those things yourself.
But not too lazy to take all you can (gluttony) that someone else has acquired.

Originally posted by riv6672
That was my thinking, yeah.
Envy begets quite a few of the other sins, IMO.
You get mad (wrath) because you're envious of others and what they have.
You want (lust) what they have.
You think you deserve (pride) those things.
You're too lazy (sloth) to work hard for those things yourself.
But not too lazy to take all you can (gluttony) that someone else has acquired. Because of the way you structured that post, I tried to read it out like it was going to rhyme. But it didn't so I read it out like a Christian rap.

http://stanleykitty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/envy2.jpg

Gluttony or Lust.
Obesity and STD's.

STD=Seven The Deadly?

Again, I'd say it's pride, because pride is ultimately what allows people to justify putting themselves on the pedestal where they believe they have the right to do immoral things. What's interesting is that pride ultimately stems from feelings of self-loathing and insecurity, which stem from this ubiquitous visceral fear that one is worthless.

You make a good argument.

Jealousy and envy are technically different but normally used interchangeably.

The phrase was used by, and possibly coined by, Shakespeare to denote jealousy, in The Merchant of Venice, 1596:

Portia:
How all the other passions fleet to air,
As doubtful thoughts, and rash-embraced despair,
And shuddering fear, and green-eyed jealousy! O love,
Be moderate; allay thy ecstasy,
In measure rein thy joy; scant this excess.
I feel too much thy blessing: make it less,
For fear I surfeit.

In Othello, 1604, Shakespeare also alludes to cats as green-eyed monsters in the way that they play with mice before killing them.

Iago:
O, beware, my lord, of jealousy;
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
The meat it feeds on; that cuckold lives in bliss
Who, certain of his fate, loves not his wronger;
But, O, what damned minutes tells he o'er
Who dotes, yet doubts, suspects, yet strongly loves!

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