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Define bust.

Seriously, whats that entail?

Destroy the galaxy

Galactus the Devourer.

Originally posted by golem370
Destroy the galaxy
What are we talking, destroying all sentient life? Turn planets to rubble? Extinguish suns?
All of the above?
Who the HECK is doing this stuff?!?

I remember when this was considered hardcore.
http://images.sequart.org/images/from-the-Dark-Phoenix-saga-2.jpg

he means destroy all matter/energy in a galaxy.


odin or a phoenix amped vulcan

Huh, thanks for the clarification.

Yeah like wiping it out of the universe or both everything or all life but leaving everything else but in both scenarios doing it in one attack. Despite what eveyone says that is hardcore.

Who TF would not call that hardcore?

Damn comics fans have gotten jaded

Sounds like lack of knowledge on the scope of feat that busting a galaxy is. I personally hate that Universal destruction is a norm now.

Originally posted by golem370
Sounds like lack of knowledge on the scope of feat that busting a galaxy is. I personally hate that Universal destruction is a norm now.


i personally think we need more galaxy level stuff. we rarely see galaxy busting/effects on that scale . its like we skipped that scope all together and just went straight to universal

People bring up Galactus and Odin, but both of these people have destroyed galaxies merely as a side effect to their fights. I would hardly say they are the weakest. Surely there are characters who would have to go all out just to destroy a single galaxy.

Okay I can't even think of any though lol. Maybe Sentry..depending on how you interpret his microverse feat with Genis?

Galactus has never destroyed a galaxy on standard level alone. Neither has Odin alone.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus has never destroyed a galaxy on standard level alone. Neither has Odin alone.

who do you think the weakest character that can destroy a galaxy is?

It's a strange question, as it does not depend on physical strength. Franklin Richards, for example, is a kid, as is Legion etc....

But Franklin in terms of power is not weak you are taking it to literal.

Skyfathers -- continental level
Galactus -- planetary level
Celestials -- stellar system level

So, none of those. But perhaps one of the earthen reality manipulators could do it. Legion, at a particular level of mind-coherence, might be able to do it.

Originally posted by golem370
... I personally hate that Universal destruction is a norm now.
Same.
It takes away from the scope of the feat.
Like the scan i posted, when DP did that, it was straight up shocking, in universe and for readers.
Still, it is what it is, as my old 1SG used to say about messed up things that werent going to change.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus has never destroyed a galaxy on standard level alone. Neither has Odin alone.

Right On Ahbi!

Galactus busted a Galaxy at substandard levels.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/thanos_004.jpg

Originally posted by ghostman
i personally think we need more galaxy level stuff. we rarely see galaxy busting/effects on that scale No we don't. You can count on one hand the instances of a character that can at least destroy a single star with ease being taken down with force at least on par with that same show of power. Betteer writing would negate the need for space cheese that only creats issues down the road.

The same phoenix in the scan above that ate a star just to refuel got "killed" by some Shi'ar plasma cannon

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus has never destroyed a galaxy on standard level alone. Neither has Odin alone.

What do you mean when you say standard level? I assume you mean when he is not fully fed? Even though when in an extremely weakened state he destroyed 3-4 star systems. He has had fights where he destroys galaxies as a side effect. That alone shows he is more than capable of destroying a single galaxy.

Just like the fight Odin didn't do his feat alone doesn't mean he can't destroy a single galaxy.

Originally posted by riv6672
Same.
It takes away from the scope of the feat.
Like the scan i posted, when DP did that, it was straight up shocking, in universe and for readers.
Still, it is what it is, as my old 1SG used to say about messed up things that weren't going to change.

Yes, I feel Marvel tends to really overuse their cosmic characters.

Originally posted by "Id"
Right On Ahbi!

Galactus busted a Galaxy at substandard levels.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/thanos_004.jpg
That's just a myth. The Galaxy wiped clean doesn't refers the blast wiping out a galaxy. And Galactus was amped on hundreds of planets energy.

When Galactus was retrofitted with the tech Thanos devised to weaponize him, the 'bleeding' was stopped/siphoned into the machine, but his armor was still in a state of disarray:
http://imgur.com/ItS9fZx

Furthermore, it was outright stated that Galactus was starving whilst being used to Annihilus' whim, as he was only being fed "a trickle" of cosmic power--just enough to keep him alive:
http://imgur.com/Od79xHg

And all of the cosmic power from the planets he destroyed was being siphoned into the canisters:
http://imgur.com/Mcc94th
(Essentially those canisters contained the energies of numerous worlds.)

That being said, when Galactus first awoke from his imprisonment, he still looked like complete shit:
http://imgur.com/LidHShT

But when we next see Galactus, he looks very healthy(his armor and injuries are repaired), and the cosmic energy canisters are circling him:
http://imgur.com/KCtOu6j

Originally posted by Surtur
What do you mean when you say standard level? I assume you mean when he is not fully fed? Even though when in an extremely weakened state he destroyed 3-4 star systems. He has had fights where he destroys galaxies as a side effect. That alone shows he is more than capable of destroying a single galaxy.

Just like the fight Odin didn't do his feat alone doesn't mean he can't destroy a single galaxy.
He wasn't weakened when he destroyed star systems. In fact he was heavily amped.

Which fight had him destroying galaxies as a side effect?

He's referring to Galactus' fight against Mephisto:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pzUYiKl884o/hqdefault.jpg

^^^Thats hella cool, no pun intended.

And abhi with a Thor sig. That'd be like me repping Black Panther.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
He's referring to Galactus' fight against Mephisto:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pzUYiKl884o/hqdefault.jpg
There is no galaxy being destroyed there. It's flowery language as usual by Stan Lee.

Ah, Stan....

Originally posted by "Id"
Right On Ahbi!

Galactus busted a Galaxy at substandard levels.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/thanos_004.jpg


Great

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just a myth. The Galaxy wiped clean doesn't refers the blast wiping out a galaxy. And Galactus was amped on hundreds of planets energy.



Yet, he specifically states below that he is still weakened specifically from Thanos's treachery:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1254163-008_nothingsurprisesgalactus_ahg1.jpg

And again states that he needs more sustenance than before specifically due to Thanos's treachery:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/91339/1875772-1120270_annihilation_heraldsofgalactus1_037_super.jpg

So your attempt to extrapolate what you want from your loose interpretation of the art does not hold water to dialogue specifically stating that Galactus is still weak from the ordeal with his imprisonment. This totally contradicts your assertion that he fully recovers from this ordeal and is amped.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just a myth. The Galaxy wiped clean doesn't refers the blast wiping out a galaxy. And Galactus was amped on hundreds of planets energy.


Galactus was weakened.

The comic even states so post Annihilation.

A fed Galactus has:

-Had trouble with Thanos, fighting him caused him to deplete all his energy.
-Had significant trouble with Odin, who was also fighting on standard levels.

So who cares if Galactus busted a Galaxy at standard levels, Odin has done the same.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There is no galaxy being destroyed there. It's flowery language as usual by Stan Lee.
It doesn't have to be visually depicted as long as it has been stated to have occurred. It simply means its happening off panel.

Dork.

PC Supes.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Yet, he specifically states below that he is still weakened specifically from Thanos's treachery:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1254163-008_nothingsurprisesgalactus_ahg1.jpg

And again states that he needs more sustenance than before specifically due to Thanos's treachery:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/91339/1875772-1120270_annihilation_heraldsofgalactus1_037_super.jpg

So your attempt to extrapolate what you want from your loose interpretation of the art does not hold water to dialogue specifically stating that Galactus is still weak from the ordeal with his imprisonment. This totally contradicts your assertion that he fully recovers from this ordeal and is amped.
That's from Godhunter and its specifically stated that the attack he did on Annihilation fleet drained him of his entire energy.

It doesn't means he wasn't amped on dozens of planets energy.

Originally posted by "Id"
Galactus was weakened.

The comic even states so post Annihilation. At the time of the blast? No, he wasn't.

@abhil

Did you see the "Galaxy Busting" thread on Comicvine? Even though it was about Odin, I feel the contra poster made a good argument AGAINST Surtur busting a galaxy (without stips) on panel. It was the Burning Galaxy feat during the Beta Ray Bill arc.

Find it here

I know. Surtur never destroyed the whole galaxy. He just destroyed it's core.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know. Surtur never destroyed the whole galaxy. He just destroyed it's core.
Apparently the "core of the galaxy" was nothing more than a large star.

surtur.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know. Surtur never destroyed the whole galaxy. He just destroyed it's core.

He was.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's from Godhunter and its specifically stated that the attack he did on Annihilation fleet drained him of his entire energy.
Wrong. You cant even get the issues right.

Thats from Annihilation Heralds of Galactus #1.

"Thanos treachery has weaken me", is a direct reference of affects being by the restrains, even after he was freed which in return contradicts your observation.

Disintegrate a galaxy? An abstract being of course.

Originally posted by "Id"
Right On Ahbi!

Galactus busted a Galaxy at substandard levels.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/thanos_004.jpg
Anyways, what comic is this from?

Originally posted by "Id"
He was.


Wrong. You cant even get the issues right.

Thats from Annihilation Heralds of Galactus #1.

"Thanos treachery has weaken me", is a direct reference of affects being by the restrains, even after he was freed which in return contradicts your observation.
That's inconsequential if I mistook one issue from another. It's pretty evident that Galactus absorbed the power of dozens if not hundreds of planets before unleashing his blast in Annihilation.

If he was weakened after that, it's really inconsequential. Originally posted by apex_pretador
Anyways, what comic is this from?
Thanos imperative.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's inconsequential if I mistook one issue from another. It's pretty evident that Galactus absorbed the power of dozens if not hundreds of planets before unleashing his blast in Annihilation.

If he was weakened after that, it's really inconsequential.
Thanos imperative.
Thanos imperative "ignition" page 3

And no, galan did not absorb energies of any planet at all. He was near-dead state. Read godhunter arc, it states that during Annihilation , Galactus used up on all his reserves of energies to even sustain himself and that's why he became all that black thing, and needed to feed quickly and much sooner.

Haha what? Galactus didn't absorb shit during Annihilation.

Apex is a sock, but he's right

I thought Galactus absorbed the energy in the containers that were floating around him once he was as free from thanos's machine.

Yes, that is probably correct.

At least it looks like it.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Yes, that is probably correct.

At least it looks like it. it's just that he looks severely weakened then he looks fully nourished

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it's just that he looks severely weakened then he looks fully nourished

Actually, the only noticeable difference between Galactus in the first scan and the other two is the repair of some not to serious armor damage.

http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Galactus-Marvel-Comics-g.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gx2BbaP5MvI/VRg2zt2n4-I/AAAAAAAJS9I/8a8hR7pixOo/s1600/p6_2%2Bcopy.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41224/1154311-annihilation_2.jpg

What could be interpreted visually is overwritten by subsequent dialogue in other books. Thus, even if Galactus is absorbing power from the canisters, for what ever reason, he is still in a comparatively weakened state. He probably absorbs just enough to enable him to unleash the bast, but what he absorbs is does not bring him to full power before the blast.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Actually, the only noticeable difference between Galactus in the first scan and the other two is the repair of some not to serious armor damage.

http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Galactus-Marvel-Comics-g.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gx2BbaP5MvI/VRg2zt2n4-I/AAAAAAAJS9I/8a8hR7pixOo/s1600/p6_2%2Bcopy.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41224/1154311-annihilation_2.jpg

What could be interpreted visually is overwritten by subsequent dialogue in other books. Thus, even if Galactus is absorbing power from the canisters, for what ever reason, he is still in a comparatively weakened state. He probably absorbs just enough to enable him to unleash the bast, but what he absorbs is does not bring him to full power before the blast. that is just complete guess work. We know when he's severely depleted what sort of power he has, so by simply going by the power he shows with the blast he must have absorbed a fair amount of energy from the containers.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
that is just complete guess work. We know when he's severely depleted what sort of power he has, so by simply going by the power he shows with the blast he must have absorbed a fair amount of energy from the containers.

That is not in line with what is expressed in the book. Thanos goes into detail regarding the function of the Power Cosmic. He explains that cosmic energy is absorbed by and stored in Galactus's aura. That stored energy then feeds his biology. They allow Galactus to feed his aura, but redirect the energy that would go ordinarily from there to his biology to the storage canisters.

So Galactus's physical condition has nothing to do with the power stored in his aura and I doubt that enough power is stored in the canisters to destroy star systems. All Galactus needs is enough strength to unleash a blast using power already stored in his aura. When in his history has unleashing that level of power ever depleted him?

Either way, subsequent issues have established that Galactus remains weakened directly from his ordeal with Annihilus, so it's really not guess work.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That is not in line with what is expressed in the book. Thanos goes into detail regarding the function of the Power Cosmic. He explains that cosmic energy is absorbed by and stored in Galactus's aura. That stored energy then feeds his biology. They allow Galactus to feed his aura, but redirect the energy that would go ordinarily from there to his biology to the storage canisters.

So Galactus's physical condition has nothing to do with the power stored in his aura and I doubt that enough power is stored in the canisters to destroy star systems. All Galactus needs is enough strength to unleash a blast using power already stored in his aura. When in his history has unleashing that level of power ever depleted him?

Either way, subsequent issues have established that Galactus remains weakened directly from his ordeal with Annihilus, so it's really not guess work. Galactus depleted his energy trying to break through Thanos force fields.

He was weakened further from the blast he did at the end of Annihilation.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Galactus depleted his energy trying to break through Thanos force fields.

Where?



Argumentum ad nauseam doesn't fly.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Actually, the only noticeable difference between Galactus in the first scan and the other two is the repair of some not to serious armor damage.

http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Galactus-Marvel-Comics-g.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gx2BbaP5MvI/VRg2zt2n4-I/AAAAAAAJS9I/8a8hR7pixOo/s1600/p6_2%2Bcopy.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41224/1154311-annihilation_2.jpg

What could be interpreted visually is overwritten by subsequent dialogue in other books. Thus, even if Galactus is absorbing power from the canisters, for what ever reason, he is still in a comparatively weakened state. He probably absorbs just enough to enable him to unleash the bast, but what he absorbs is does not bring him to full power before the blast.
Those canisters had the energy of entire planets.

Galactus is sated on a single planet energy.

Your logic simply does not computes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Those canisters had the energy of entire planets.

Galactus is sated on a single planet energy.

Your logic simply does not computes.

Where is it stated or shown that the canisters had the energy of entire planets?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where is it stated or shown that the canisters had the energy of entire planets? http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/30408947_Annihilation4-005.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/30408948_Annihilation4-006.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/30408947_Annihilation4-005.jpg http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t1/30408948_Annihilation4-006.jpg

That's one planet.

Annihilation wave destroyed several more planets.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where?



Argumentum ad nauseam doesn't fly. in Thanos solos series, he was depleted after trying bust through Thanos force field. He was well nourished before tried to break the force field.

So you just make a excuse

You mean the same issue where he was so hungry that he was looking for the IG to quell his hunger? Who says he was well fed before the blast? And why the hell would you take that as a standard for him?

Originally posted by Genii96
You mean the same issue where he was so hungry that he was looking for the IG to quell his hunger? Who says he was well fed before the blast? And why the hell would you take that as a standard for him? he wasn't looking for the IG, he wanted a single gem to end his hunger for ever. Thanos states that Galactus was well nourished, that's why he asks him what he was up to on Rigel.

Not taking sides here, but to further cement Insane Titan's stance, this isn't really something that should be placed under too much scrutiny. After all, Thanos took blast after blast from Odin. Him taking a full scale blast from a fully sated Galactus, shouldn't be that difficult to believe.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
in Thanos solos series, he was depleted after trying bust through Thanos force field. He was well nourished before tried to break the force field.

So you just make a excuse

That's a pretty thorough misrepresentation. Galactus never says that he is depleted. He says that vital energies were depleted fooling with Thanos; energies that need to be reserved for the task at hand. He needs all of his power to achieve his goal and can't afford to waste any energy.

You stated it as if he is left significantly depleted, even though he still has power enough to unleash a powerful attack on Hunger shortly after. .

A blast that was nothing compared to two planets colliding. Which almost killed Galactus too.

Galaxy buster attack right there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Annihilation wave destroyed several more planets.

The energy from the Harvester of Sorrows is used to power the fleet and is destroyed before Thanos captures Galactus. It has nothing to do with what Thanos utilizes specifically to store the Power Cosmic siphoned from Galactus's aura. He even says that Galactus is essential for the process.

Originally posted by abhilegend
A blast that was nothing compared to two planets colliding. Which almost killed Galactus too.

Galaxy buster attack right there.

Of course, that is after Galactus is significantly drained by Hunger, a universe consumer.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's a pretty thorough misrepresentation. Galactus never says that he is depleted. He says that vital energies were depleted fooling with Thanos; energies that need to be reserved for the task at hand. He needs all of his power to achieve his goal and can't afford to waste any energy.

You stated it as if he is left significantly depleted, even though he still has power enough to unleash a powerful attack on Hunger shortly after. . haha talk about been wrong, Galactus makes it clear that attacking Thanos taxed him.

Powerful attack on the hunger it did nothing .

Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha talk about been wrong, Galactus makes it clear that attacking Thanos taxed him.

Powerful attack on the hunger it did nothing .

So you have an issue differentiating between someone being taxed and someone being depleted? You said that Galactus is depleted.

And Galactus expresses surprise at requiring a second blast to penetrate the shield. He never says that he is being taxed trying to destroy it.

The blast has no effect on Hunger because Hunger absorbs it and drains the power. Hunger is a multiple universe devourer.

And why are you lowballing Thanos?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The energy from the Harvester of Sorrows is used to power the fleet and is destroyed before Thanos captures Galactus. It has nothing to do with what Thanos utilizes specifically to store the Power Cosmic siphoned from Galactus's aura. He even says that Galactus is essential for the process.
What are you talking about? The machine had destroyed dozens of planets and that's stated clearly.

Galactus was amped, that's a fact. Originally posted by TheHulkster
Of course, that is after Galactus is significantly drained by Hunger, a universe consumer.
Even in sated state there was a 60% chance that he'd die.

Hunger was almost destroyed by those two planets too.

Some universe consumer right there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What are you talking about? The machine had destroyed dozens of planets and that's stated clearly.

The energy from the planets destroyed by the Harvester is not the energy Thanos stores in the canisters. So it's irrelevant.



That's fan fiction created by you, which totally contradicts the subsequent Galactus appearances stating him to still be depleted specifically from what is done to him during captivity.



Those calculations reference him at that current, depleted state, not in a sated state.



They are dealing with a fraction of Hunger separated from it's "vast bulk", and that small fraction is reduced, but still very much alive.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So you have an issue differentiating between someone being taxed and someone being depleted? You said that Galactus is depleted.

And Galactus expresses surprise at requiring a second blast to penetrate the shield. He never says that he is being taxed trying to destroy it.

The blast has no effect on Hunger because Hunger absorbs it and drains the power. Hunger is a multiple universe devourer.

And why are you lowballing Thanos? it's practically the same meaning. Blasting Thanos with his power made him weaker than before he blasted him.

He's surprised because the power and effort he put I didn't kill Thanos.

Hunger wasn't fully manifested into the 616 reality at that point. So you adding the whole "multiple universe devour" in doesn't add more credit to your point.


yeah I'm know for low balling Thanos.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it's practically the same meaning. Blasting Thanos with his power made him weaker than before he blasted him.

He's surprised because the power and effort he put I didn't kill Thanos.

Hunger wasn't fully manifested into the 616 reality at that point. So you adding the whole "multiple universe devour" in doesn't add more credit to your point.


yeah I'm know for low balling Thanos.

That's a complete misrepresentation. Someone being depleted implies a significant drainage of energy to a point of that energy being at least nearly gone. You use that scene as a comparison to Galactus's condition after being starved by Thanos. It's an extremely faulty comparison. Galactus is merely surprised at the necessary effort. He is still in a high powered state after but expresses the need to have practically all of his power in order to accomplish his goal.

Galactus is only significantly depleted after being drained by Hunger and hunger is able to take advantage of Galactus's attack to drain him despite not being fully manifested. He is a threat to the MU during that storyline.

And since Thanos is a major power in the MU, enough to challenge Skyfathers and cosmic beings such as Maker, why is having to assert a little extra effort against his shields a show of weakness? That's lowballing Thanos.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's a complete misrepresentation. Someone being depleted implies a significant drainage of energy to a point of that energy being at least nearly gone. You use that scene as a comparison to Galactus's condition after being starved by Thanos. It's an extremely faulty comparison. Galactus is merely surprised at the necessary effort. He is still in a high powered state after but expresses the need to have practically all of his power in order to accomplish his goal.

Galactus is only significantly depleted after being drained by Hunger and hunger is able to take advantage of Galactus's attack to drain him despite not being fully manifested. He is a threat to the MU during that storyline.

And since Thanos is a major power in the MU, enough to challenge Skyfathers and cosmic beings such as Maker, why is having to assert a little extra effort against his shields a show of weakness? That's lowballing Thanos. it's not a misrepresentation at all. Blasting Thanos depleted his power. And as usual you've completely got my original point wrong, the blast Galactus did in Annihilation that did all the damage wasn't done by him in a depleted state. There is no way Galactus could destroy 3solar systems whilst being virtually starved to death when he had to exert himself whilst well nourished to break a force field.

Challenge skyfathers! Odin was superior to him and maker was in a mortal form. I'm a massive Thanos fan , but I'm also not a stupid fanboy so plz don't try to educate me with you nonsense.

Thanos walked through and tanked hits from Odin. This without shields. Galactus having to exert himself a bit means nothing. Galactus stalemated agamotto while Hungry too