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Hulk boxes Martian Manhunter
Superman boxes Juggernaut

Originally posted by Jake2TheJakenin
Hulk boxes Martian Manhunter
Superman boxes Juggernaut

Hmm, is this strictly boxing? Sorry for the dumb question, but I wanted to know if the rules were the same as a sanctioned boxing match that would be held in a place like Caesar's Palace.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hmm, is this strictly boxing? Sorry for the dumb question, but I wanted to know if the rules were the same as a sanctioned boxing match that would be held in a place like Caesar's Palace.

I forgot to post the rules:


1. 12 rounds.
2. Winner can be decided by KO, points or TKO.
3. No powers except speed, defense and power.

Originally posted by Jake2TheJakenin
I forgot to post the rules:


1. 12 rounds.
2. Winner can be decided by KO, points or TKO.
3. No powers except speed, defense and power.

Speed goes to Superman. The rules would hinder a character like the Hulk, and he'd be DQ'd before the first match ended. Superman wins.

Hulk
Juggernaut

Yeah, Hulk is slower, plus he has no HF here (relying only on speed, defense and power).

Martian Manhunter by points. I don't think he can KO Hulk in 12 rounds with no other abilities. While hulk's blows would certainly affect him a lot, his speed allows him to keep hulk on defense and his durability allows him to take 2-3 hits.

Juggernaut wins. While Superman is faster, he's going to be tagged eventually. Juggernaut is equal to World War hulk, above regular hulk.
Also, Juggernaut won't even be on defense at all due to his invulnerability.

Juggernaut has no strength feats to suggest he can beat Superman in a fist fight.

Superman punches his lights out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Juggernaut has no strength feats to suggest he can beat Superman in a fist fight.

Superman punches his lights out.

100% agree with you on this Abhi. Superman's durability exceeds an average Juggernaut's strength IMO. Let's go to the score card is what would end up happening, What we would see is Superman evading 9 out of 10 solid punches, while scoring 9 out of 10 solid punches. That's a lot of punches.

Removing the Hulk's healing power's or any of the other characters healing powers is wrong on every level though, because then they wouldn't be the character that they are portrayed to be at all. Healing factors should remain in play, just like durability. Shape shifting, intangibility, psychic attacks, and flight should be turned off, as they aren't innate abilities.

What level is Juggs at now? Isn't he far from his "classic" invulnerability?

Originally posted by Cogito
What level is Juggs at now? Isn't he far from his "classic" invulnerability?

Yes, but I'm assuming that this is classic Cain.Why wouldn't it be? The Cain that took a beating from the Wrecking Crew isn't on the level.

So if Superman gets 1,000,000 hits in on Juggs, but none of them have any effect whatsoever, how do you judge that?

TKO.

Because I'd assume a being who can throw 1,000,000 punches is also capable of ducking and dodging every single punch thrown by the other.

So it'll go down to points.

Originally posted by Stoic
100% agree with you on this Abhi. Superman's durability exceeds an average Juggernaut's strength IMO. Let's go to the score card is what would end up happening, What we would see is Superman evading 9 out of 10 solid punches, while scoring 9 out of 10 solid punches. That's a lot of punches.

Removing the Hulk's healing power's or any of the other characters healing powers is wrong on every level though, because then they wouldn't be the character that they are portrayed to be at all. Healing factors should remain in play, just like durability. Shape shifting, intangibility, psychic attacks, and flight should be turned off, as they aren't innate abilities.
100% agreed that Superman punches Juggernaut's lights out?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
TKO.

Because I'd assume a being who can throw 1,000,000 punches is also capable of ducking and dodging every single punch thrown by the other.

So it'll go down to points.

Right, and points are based on the number of punches connected and how hard punches are. But that's based on a reality where any punch, whether solid or not, causes some pain.

Superman is obviously capable of connecting with a massive number of punches while dodging all counters, so in theory he should stomp based on points.

Originally posted by Cogito
So if Superman gets 1,000,000 hits in on Juggs, but none of them have any effect whatsoever, how do you judge that?

By points scored. It would go down as being outclassed, or schooled depending on perspective.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
100% agreed that Superman punches Juggernaut's lights out?

Sorry no. Just that he would keep connecting over and over again.

That's the problem with juggernaut characters.

Anyways, what if Juggernaut starts running towards Superman to punch him? Would superman go fist to fist? Or turn around, punch juggernaut to the side and deflect his momentum so that he rolls down for a massive point? With juggernaut continuing rolling over and rolling out of the ring due to unstoppability.

Originally posted by apex_pretador
That's the problem with juggernaut characters.

Anyways, what if Juggernaut starts running towards Superman to punch him? Would superman go fist to fist? Or turn around, punch juggernaut to the side and deflect his momentum so that he rolls down for a massive point? With juggernaut continuing rolling over and rolling out of the ring due to unstoppability.

Superman would likely see it, and move. I don't see him causing any damage to Juggernaut, but he'd score a ton more points.

Since when is Juggernaut invulnerable to Superman level strength? Merged hulk nearly punched his lights out in two punches. Thor after removing his force field nearly koed him in under one minute?

Where is this fanfiction version of Juggernaut coming from?

100k punches? Juggernaut wouldn't take 10 full strength punches from Superman and remain standing.

Heck, he was koed by early form Onslaught punching him to Canada. Superman is going to punch him a lot harder than that.

Juggs has a stomach ache and Death agrees to let Ali sub for him.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Since when is Juggernaut invulnerable to Superman level strength? Merged hulk nearly punched his lights out in two punches. Thor after removing his force field nearly koed him in under one minute?

Where is this fanfiction version of Juggernaut coming from?

100k punches? Juggernaut wouldn't take 10 full strength punches from Superman and remain standing.

Heck, he was koed by early form Onslaught punching him to Canada. Superman is going to punch him a lot harder than that. you are aware that juggernaut is currently enhanced to the point that with a single punch, he broke several of colossus' ribs right? That isn't fanfic, it's just a statement of fact that colossus couldn't do a single thing to him other than bfr.

Originally posted by deathslash
you are aware that juggernaut is currently enhanced to the point that with a single punch, he broke several of colossus' ribs right? That isn't fanfic, it's just a statement of fact that colossus couldn't do a single thing to him other than bfr.
Yeah, because Colossus is such a strong character, right?

Colossus has been said to be one of the strongest characters on earth. With that said, Superman still beats Juggernaut.

Marvel Earth, I guess....