Professor X vs everyone

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yaadaveyaa
If professor lost his morality and decided on ending the human race who if any earth bound characters can stop him?

can anyone stop him once he gets going?

Surtur
Juggernaut throws him down a flight of stairs. It will look sort of like this:

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/970/stairs.jpg

DarkSaint85
The Stepford Cuckoos stop him.

https://s5.postimg.org/vh09nazh3/world_war_hulk_x_men_002_008.jpg

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by Surtur
Juggernaut throws him down a flight of stairs. It will look sort of like this:

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/970/stairs.jpg

lol the juggernaut doesn't get within 1000 miles of him

Glorificus
Xavier can gather the minds of everyone on the planet to use as weapon, and he's done multiple times.

If he were truly bloodlusted, it'd take someone completely immune to TP to survive him.

Even robots aren't safe - he's oddly enough managed to scramble the Sentinels in the past.

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by Glorificus
Xavier can gather the minds of everyone on the planet to use as weapon, and he's done multiple times.

If he were truly bloodlusted, it'd take someone completely immune to TP to survive him.

Even robots aren't safe - he's oddly enough managed to scramble the Sentinels in the past.

yeah that is the point of the topic he is bloodlusted could really anything stop him from doing what he wanted? obvoiusly some high end thanos or something but any earth character stop him? I would think he would take control of hulk and enrage him to the point he broke the planet

staxamillion
Quentin quire?

staxamillion
if magic can sneak away to limbo quick enough she drop a bomb on him from limbo

yaadaveyaa
i dont see him being on prof x lvl but ive read limited on him i dont see that even being sort of close

krisblaze
Are they aware that he has turned?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
yeah that is the point of the topic he is bloodlusted could really anything stop him from doing what he wanted? obvoiusly some high end thanos or something but any earth character stop him? I would think he would take control of hulk and enrage him to the point he broke the planet

Jeez, Thanos level? Nah.

Fantomex says hi.

https://i.imgur.com/OTrzJl9.jpg
https://imgur.com/a/Xs23T#0

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by krisblaze
Are they aware that he has turned?

thats a good question i think if they all knew they would build some type of defense but who could resist?

we could do 1. they all know
2. no one has a a clue and he sneak attacks

Glorificus
Originally posted by staxamillion
Quentin quire?

LOL nope.

Maybe if he were really hopped up on Kick or Banshee, or empowered by the Phoenix Force, but even then, I can see Xavier pulling a Mutually-assured Destruction move and taking him down with him.

Xavier was fighting against Dark Phoenix Jean and holding his own for a decent while...

He survived long enough for Jean to sandbag the Phoenix and actually help him win.

Quentin sans amps has no chance really.

staxamillion
diamond form emma frost

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jeez, Thanos level? Nah.

Fantomex says hi.

https://i.imgur.com/OTrzJl9.jpg
https://imgur.com/a/Xs23T#0

i was tryin to say he couldnt do these things to a being like thanos my bad :/

and ill still take a professor x who wants everyone dead

carver9
I'm sure he knows of Fantomex resistance. He would send Quicksilver or Hyperion to take him out in the blink of an eye. Charles with this kind of mentality takes over the planet.

Cogito
Franklin Richards says lol

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by Cogito
Franklin Richards says lol

ok yeah thats one guy who could stop charles ... anyone else

the way i thought of it is charles takes over the minds of its strongest heroes and starts destroying everything.

staxamillion
Originally posted by Surtur
Juggernaut throws him down a flight of stairs. It will look sort of like this:

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/970/stairs.jpg

suited up jugs tho

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I'm sure he knows of Fantomex resistance. He would send Quicksilver or Hyperion to take him out in the blink of an eye. Charles with this kind of mentality takes over the planet.

Misdirect. How will he know where to send Hyperion/Quicksilver in the first place, anyway? He cannot be tracked by Xavier/Cerebro - that's the whole point.

Doom has also resisted planetary mind control before, amongst others.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Misdirect. How will he know where to send Hyperion/Quicksilver in the first place, anyway? He cannot be tracked by Xavier/Cerebro - that's the whole point.

Doom has also resisted planetary mind control before, amongst others.

But there are trackers on the planet though. Charles is highly protected in this state and he have all the time in the world to locate FX.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
But there are trackers on the planet though. Charles is highly protected in this state and he have all the time in the world to locate FX.

So...your answer is, they find a way? Without actually giving one?

Who would track him down? He has no scent, and anyone who came for him, would be misdirected away.

Time? So does Fantomex. With the World, he can prep with an entire world's worth of weaponry, and come back in a day (which in HIS time, would be months or years). As Marvel says, he could cure all Earth born diseases in days if it wasn't dedicated to making weapons:

https://i.imgur.com/mzpOUbk.jpg

Edit: note too, where he got that shrink ray from. Highly protected, Charles? You forget that Fantomex is a thief. Used to breaking past security.

Stoic
Dr, Strange would negate his control, and take him out on the Astral plane.

http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/strange/Dr-strange-Galactus-2.jpg

Can't find scans of it, but Stephen defeated a Thanosai in astral battle. The scan above shows the power that he commands.

DarkSaint85
Edit: In all likelihood, they wouldn't even be able to find Fantomex when he is in the World:

http://65.media.tumblr.com/f2a4a9fa344697076f1346752f084b62/tumblr_inline_nycp33CZPT1rbdoc1_500.jpg

Not to mention a whole host of characters who can straight up distract Xavier. Doom, Juggernaut, Strange, the Cuckoos, other psychics...

Whilst lone wolf assassins like Fantomex and Deadpool can sneak in and take him out.

Stoic
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Edit: In all likelihood, they wouldn't even be able to find Fantomex when he is in the World:

http://65.media.tumblr.com/f2a4a9fa344697076f1346752f084b62/tumblr_inline_nycp33CZPT1rbdoc1_500.jpg

Not to mention a whole host of characters who can straight up distract Xavier. Doom, Juggernaut, Strange, the Cuckoos, other psychics...

Whilst lone wolf assassins like Fantomex and Deadpool can sneak in and take him out.

Strange would defeat him in his own playground. He defeated a Thanosai of the mind. The Shadow King would also destroy him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Stoic
Strange would defeat him in his own playground. He defeated a Thanosai of the mind. The Shadow King would also destroy him.

Destroy who, Xavier?

Interesting you think that - Fantomex is able to keep Shadow King out as well:

https://s5.postimg.org/ipvw26azb/Uncanny_X_Force_008_010.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/5zrnp3313/Uncanny_X_Force_008_011.jpg

StyleTime
Originally posted by krisblaze
Are they aware that he has turned?
This is really important. Can the OP clarify?

This thread gets interesting if the other heroes don't know he's gone rogue.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StyleTime
This is really important. Can the OP clarify?

This thread gets interesting if the other heroes don't know he's gone rogue.

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Like a more powerful/skilled Maxwell Lord.

krisblaze
Don't say more powerful or Abhi/Galan will freak.

But yeah, things would be a bit different with an army of super-heroes at his command.

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by StyleTime
This is really important. Can the OP clarify?

This thread gets interesting if the other heroes don't know he's gone rogue.

yeah i will change the OP i left an answer a few threads back making it:

1.no one knows he has gone rogue
2. they know and all turn to try and stop him

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So...your answer is, they find a way? Without actually giving one?

Who would track him down? He has no scent, and anyone who came for him, would be misdirected away.

Time? So does Fantomex. With the World, he can prep with an entire world's worth of weaponry, and come back in a day (which in HIS time, would be months or years). As Marvel says, he could cure all Earth born diseases in days if it wasn't dedicated to making weapons:

https://i.imgur.com/mzpOUbk.jpg

Edit: note too, where he got that shrink ray from. Highly protected, Charles? You forget that Fantomex is a thief. Used to breaking past security.

The point is, your character is pointless since X will be highly guarded by some of the most powerful beings on the planet. Also Kalibak can track him, easily. Wolverine and Sabertooth can track him as well.

carver9
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
yeah i will change the OP i left an answer a few threads back making it:

1.no one knows he has gone rogue
2. they know and all turn to try and stop him

IF they know it makes the thread pointless. You need to exempt that.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
The point is, your character is pointless since X will be highly guarded by some of the most powerful beings on the planet. Also Kalibak can track him, easily. Wolverine and Sabertooth can track him as well.

He's not a mutant? Caliban (Kalibak is from DC, btw) only tracks mutants.

Wolverine and Sabes are resistant to mind control. There are far too many examples of him resisting mind control for me to count, really.

They can track him in the World? When he then pops up after one day, with years' worth of weaponry designed specifically to kill them? OK.

I mean, there's not even a chance he's in the USA. What, Xavier is going to devote his resources to controlling everyone (including people with incredibly strong wills like Hulk etc) WHILST sending Wolverine to France or wherever he is hiding, THEN finding him in the miniature World?

This is what happens IF Wolverine manages to find him:

https://i.imgur.com/WFgZJBy.jpg

Btw, he has no scent, so smelling him out is also out of the question.

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by carver9
IF they know it makes the thread pointless. You need to exempt that.

y?

even if they get a warning hes still going to mind **** 99% of the planet

imagine if u will him grabbing hulk and company to come protect him while he sits and explodes your brains to every person on the planet who could stop him with a warning even?

franklin for sure doom i could see it who else?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
y?

even if they get a warning hes still going to mind **** 99% of the planet

imagine if u will him grabbing hulk and company to come protect him while he sits and explodes your brains to every person on the planet who could stop him with a warning even?

franklin for sure doom i could see it who else?

Magneto. Who is resistant to telepathy, and can actually phuck with the Earth's magnetic field, blocking Charles. Once his TP is blocked, it's game over. Imagine how pissed the Hulk would be at being controlled, lol.

carver9
@Darksaint,

Answer this, if you were Charles, what would you do during the onset of this?

hutchy1345
Iceman
Consciousness spread throughout the world
Immune to telepathy
Death by ice

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
@Darksaint,

Answer this, if you were Charles, what would you do during the onset of this?

Oh, that's a completely diff matter...but ok.

What do I want? To destroy the Earth or rule?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, that's a completely diff matter...but ok.

What do I want? To destroy the Earth or rule?

Not different at all since this thread is basically designed for us to use Xavier power in a way he wouldn't due to turning evil.

It's all in your hands basically. The OP didn't state Professor intentions.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Not different at all since this thread is basically designed for us to use Xavier power in a way he wouldn't due to turning evil.

It's all in your hands basically. The OP didn't state Professor intentions.

Professor X without morals =/= Darksaint85 - I am a benevolent and just person.

But I choose to destroy the Earth. I would leave Earth, come back with the Shi Ar, and destroy the entire Earth from orbit, whilst mind controlling the more susceptible characters,

Surtur
Originally posted by Glorificus
Xavier can gather the minds of everyone on the planet to use as weapon, and he's done multiple times.

If he were truly bloodlusted, it'd take someone completely immune to TP to survive him.

Even robots aren't safe - he's oddly enough managed to scramble the Sentinels in the past.

There are various people on Earth who are immune and/or highly resistant to telepathy.

Dr. Doom would seem like one of the people who wouldn't be put under the control of Xavier.

yaadaveyaa
magneto is immune when he has his helmet on and even then hes not gona b immune if say he takes control of hulks mind and has him break him into 4000 pieces.

i agree there are people who can stop him but how many and who is the real question.

DarkSaint85
So you think everyone's going to be on the same battlefield, staring at each other? Lol.

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you think everyone's going to be on the same battlefield, staring at each other? Lol.

i think once prof x starts they wont have control of their own minds for the most part if he uses cerebro we know he could kill off most of if not the entire human race then hes left with mutants.

DarkSaint85
Doom, Juggernaut, other psychics like the Cuckoos, Shadow King, Strange, Fantomex etc....he'd be taken down if he doesn't sort them out quickly. Magneto alone could block his entire control over the world.

StyleTime
I'm not sure the Magneto trick would even work anymore tbh. That said, yeah, if everyone is actively fighting back, he'd lose. The one plot point a writer could manipulate is that Xavier still has the Mind Gem I believe. If he could coerce the other telepaths into joining in...things could get ugly.

In the other scenario though, Xavier is scary. He doesn't need to outright mind control the planet. Mental pushing heroes, villains, and world leaders to start fighting each other would cause immense chaos. It would be quite some time before anyone even guessed it was him.

carver9
Professor X mind control half of the population. Have Cannonball put a shield over him, Psylock, Graviton, you get where I'm going with this. Then have guards surrounding the building...people like Thor, Hulk, Wanda, Hyperion. Have Wolverine, Sabertooth, Spiderman Caliban inside the house to detect any nearby trespassers. Have Blink put teleporters around the Cerebra room. Have Kitty Pride near him with his hand on his shoulder intangible at all time while Xavier is picking everyone off or mind wiping them. Easy win.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Professor X mind control half of the population. Have Cannonball put a shield over him, Psylock, Graviton, you get where I'm going with this. Then have guards surrounding the building...people like Thor, Hulk, Wanda, Hyperion. Have Wolverine, Sabertooth, Spiderman Caliban inside the house to detect any nearby trespassers. Have Blink put teleporters around the Cerebra room. Have Kitty Pride near him with his hand on his shoulder intangible at all time while Xavier is picking everyone off or mind wiping them. Easy win.

Then Franklin turns them all into roses?

carver9
Is Franklin on Earth?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Is Franklin on Earth?

Yup.

Edit. Or Doop.

Edit edit: Or Doom. Time travel.

carver9
Does he have any TP resistant fts?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Does he have any TP resistant fts?

He threw the Celestials out of his mind, after they SPECIFICALLY said to attack/disable/cripple his mind, by attacking his consciousness:

http://i.imgur.com/U56uMZa.jpg

smile

Edit: and his powers kick in even when he gets snuck attack on:

http://i.imgur.com/e3oKNNh.jpg

StyleTime
Originally posted by carver9
Professor X mind control half of the population. Have Cannonball put a shield over him, Psylock, Graviton, you get where I'm going with this. Then have guards surrounding the building...people like Thor, Hulk, Wanda, Hyperion. Have Wolverine, Sabertooth, Spiderman Caliban inside the house to detect any nearby trespassers. Have Blink put teleporters around the Cerebra room. Have Kitty Pride near him with his hand on his shoulder intangible at all time while Xavier is picking everyone off or mind wiping them. Easy win.
That brings too much attention.The other telepaths would dogpile him. Or the tp resistant folks would come out of the woodwork. Even SHIELD tech has some solid anti-tp feats.

The best bet is a secret assault. He could even deal with outliers like Fantomex pretty easy. Have Psylocke text him for a booty call then TK his head off.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StyleTime
That brings too much attention.The other telepaths would dogpile him.

The best bet is a secret assault. He could even deal with outliers like Fantomex pretty easy. Have Psylocke text him for a booty call then TK his head off.

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This is why these threads kinda fall over, when it depends on the poster. Either a secret assault, or a single overwhelming strike, is needed.

DarkSaint85
Never knew this, must have slipped me by...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111174834/4621962-4176265-fr%2B15.jpg

Yoctoseconds? Jeez.

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