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No prep.
No BFR.
Classic and pre-DCnu versions respectively.

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NW.

I want to say Nightwing because of skill

Classic Shatterstar was a beast. That shoddy 90s x-men, x-force illustration was terrible. I want to say SS. His skill was great in mogoverse. Compared to NW, I dunno.

Isnt SS like strong af?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
shatterstar owned thing:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt1.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt2.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt3.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt4.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt5.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt6.jpg

I vaguely remember SS working 90s Wolvie. I'm sure there were circumstances, though.

You got it backwards. Wolverine treated him like fodder.

Yeah. Maybe. It's been awhile. I swore their very first encounter SS put him down..

Edit: i had it bassackwards. You're right Carver.

Shatterstar.

SS doesn't have too many impressive feats. Current NW would get the edge. He just stalemated Batman, something SS can only dream of doing.

Grayson stomps

Originally posted by Zack M
SS doesn't have too many impressive feats. Current NW would get the edge. He just stalemated Batman, something SS can only dream of doing. Originally posted by psycho gundam
shatterstar owned thing:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt1.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt2.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt3.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt4.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt5.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/th_svt6.jpg

Originally posted by meep-meep
Yeah. Maybe. It's been awhile. I swore their very first encounter SS put him down..

Edit: i had it bassackwards. You're right Carver.

Wolverine stomped him three times.

^^^Thats like one Batman stomping.
Originally posted by Zack M
...Current NW...just stalemated Batman...

Originally posted by psycho gundam


Meh. Who has SS defeated that was as skilled as NW?

I'll give Shatterstar credit, he survived being designed by Rob Liefeld.

Originally posted by riv6672
I'll give Shatterstar credit, he survived being designed by Rob Liefeld.


Shatterstar ftw!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine stomped him three times.

Is that considered a low showing? Wolverine SHOULD be a nightmare for any street and some metas without prep

Good question.
Wolvie is also a measuring stick, though. Do well against him, and you're making your bones.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Is that considered a low showing? Wolverine SHOULD be a nightmare for any street and some metas without prep

r u a woman?

Originally posted by Vanguard
r u a woman?

Im whatever u want me to be lover

Shatterstar.

1 Kinetic Blast.

And Night Wing Is Out.

Originally posted by riv6672
Good question.
Wolvie is also a measuring stick, though. Do well against him, and you're making your bones.

90s Wolverine is. Not the more recent incarnations. Back then he was anti-brick...they watered him down

Originally posted by shiv
Shatterstar.

1 Kinetic Blast.

And Night Wing Is Out.

NW has those types of weapons, too.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
90s Wolverine is. Not the more recent incarnations. Back then he was anti-brick...they watered him down
Watered down personality wise, maybe.

Shatterstar should win comfortably.

Not sure why him losing to Wolverine is giving heed to Nightwing winning. Dick would get beat easily by Logan as well.

Originally posted by RangerDX
Shatterstar should win comfortably.

Not sure why him losing to Wolverine is giving heed to Nightwing winning. Dick would get beat easily by Logan as well.

NW was keeping up with Midnghter (For a time) and Batman, who are both faster and more skilled than Shatterstar.

He also defeated a Talon (who has enhanced strength, speed, and healing) with standard equipment. Dick stated that that Talon was more agile and quicker than him.

Unfortunately, Nightwing also owned Grifter, too.

Originally posted by Zack M
NW was keeping up with Midnghter (For a time) and Batman, who are both faster and more skilled than Shatterstar.

He also defeated a Talon (who has enhanced strength, speed, and healing) with standard equipment. Dick stated that that Talon was more agile and quicker than him.

Is this from the new stuff? Haven't read that but him keeping up with Midnighter for Amy amount of time with Midnighter not sandbagging seems like bad writing

Originally posted by RangerDX
Is this from the new stuff? Haven't read that but him keeping up with Midnighter for Amy amount of time with Midnighter not sandbagging seems like bad writing

Yes, all new stuff. Dick hypnotized Midnighter initially through Spyral tech (Something that he can easily do to Shatterstar). In the end, Midnighter looked superior, but it was still impressive that Dick was able to dodge him.

Nightwing did end up owning Grifter, which I found stupid. Feat still counts, though.

Canon is a heartless *****.

DCnU Nightwing, Zack. DCnU.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
DCnU Nightwing, Zack. DCnU.

Same NW, though.

But OP has limited it to showings of NW that he performed before the DCnU reboot.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But OP has limited it to showings of NW that he performed before the DCnU reboot.
TBF i also limited it to classic Shatterstar, before any major upgrades to his power set.
I was enjoying where the conversation had gone, though.

Originally posted by Zack M '
Meh. Who has SS defeated that was as skilled as NW? "Meh"? Has Nightwing ever casually defeated anyone 1/100 as strong and durable as the Thing? Thing just humbled Strong guy right before getting himself humbled by Shatterstar using skill and power.

To say "meh" you'd at least have something that surpasses that to the point that it would truly be trivial enough for a "meh" response. I truly doubt that

He killed a rock monster with his stick, lol.

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/themanwonder/Good%20Showings/thetitans25-rockthing.jpg

Classic Shatterstar stomps. He could teleport/had logan-lite regen/and mjolnir-like control over his swords

Originally posted by psycho gundam
"Meh"? Has Nightwing ever casually defeated anyone 1/100 as strong and durable as the Thing? Thing just humbled Strong guy right before getting himself humbled by Shatterstar using skill and power.

To say "meh" you'd at least have something that surpasses that to the point that it would truly be trivial enough for a "meh" response. I truly doubt that

Meh. He didn't even KO him. lol