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So do we know for sure if that weird "turning into Marr, Satele and Revan" thing is what actually is gonna happen?

They changed it so you don't physically turn into Revan, but you get his two lightsabers and powers, meaning he's fighting with and through you.

So

Possession

And... how the **** do you get their physical possessions?

You are fighting within your mind, so reality is not the same as in real life.

Ah

That's better then

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
So

Possession
And... how the **** do you get their physical possessions?
Eh, I see it a lot more like what Luke did with Jaina when she fought Caedus.

Either way their powers are combined *shrugs*

So it takes the combined powers of Revan/Arcann/Vaylin/Outlander to defeat Valkorion?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They changed it so you don't physically turn into Revan, but you get his two lightsabers and powers, meaning he's fighting with and through you. I think I like that concept better to be honest. It still gives Revan his due without being too cheap about it.

This is star wars?

No, this is Sparta.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They changed it so you don't physically turn into Revan, but you get his two lightsabers and powers, meaning he's fighting with and through you. Dude... That is ****ing awesome.

Also, when you get these new abilities and weapons, your screen flashes white.

Revan doesn't help the LS Protags any more than Satele helps the DS Protags. That is to say, not at all. The Outlander is just visualizing himself as Revan and using his dark side powers, which strikes me as particularly weird rather than particularly cool. It does support my SOR Revan = Dark Side narrative, though, so I'm not really complaining.

Still, Valkorion was killed by the Eternal family and the Outlander. Revan got ditched in SOR. It's time to cope.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, this is Sparta.

God you're so funny and what an original line!

I misinterpreted everything said in this thread as Revan having a hand in the final battle against Valkorion.

I don't care about Arcann, Vaylin, Senya, or The Outlander and their exploits.

He did. NewGuy is wrong.

The Outlander can't magically imagine powers for himself. Combat within the dream realm is a reflection of physical reality. The instance of his will changing reality was when willpower was actually in question. The Outlander could decide Valkorion was chained to the phrase since Valkorion's full consciousness was within the Outlander.

Revan and Satele Shan used the Force, presumably via meditation, to passively aid the Outlander in their fight, granting him additional weapons and abilities. They were not fully present, but they were working through and with the Outlander.

Not until the Outlander forces Valkorion to kneel does he recognize that he can dictate the rules in his own mind. Before that, he adheres to the rules of reality, as blatantly shown by the fact Valkorion was surprised the Outlander was willing his way to victory after they fought.

Thus, it makes absolutely no sense the Outlander would will Revan's abilities and sabers into play. That would be inconsistent with the cutscenes and would, as Sas put it, be outright weird. If it were the case, the Outlander should have visualized all possible abilities, an army of allies, and omnipotent powers. The alternative option, in which Revan and Shan actually aided, is not only far more likely, but also a fitting end to their characters, so I don't see why Sas is actively opposing it. Note that the Outlander himself stated Revan may be aiding the Alliance passively in KOTFE.

I'm opposing it because it's clearly not true, wet dreams aside. Revan didn't make an appearance, neither did Satele and Marr.

Thank God he's finally dead, and this can be placed to peace. However... I am kinda sad this is the last drop of the EU we got. It's officially only Canon now...

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not until the Outlander forces Valkorion to kneel

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/Flypaperz/Gifs/23lntav.gif

Wait...so to fight against the possession through Valkorion, the Outlander let's himself getting possessed by Satele/Revan? LOL.
Originally posted by MythLord
Thank God he's finally dead, and this can be placed to peace. However... I am kinda sad this is the last drop of the EU we got. It's officially only Canon now...

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm opposing it because it's clearly not true, wet dreams aside. Revan didn't make an appearance, neither did Satele and Marr.

Better than I expected from that other thread. But that isn't saying much.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He did. NewGuy is wrong.

The Outlander can't magically imagine powers for himself. Combat within the dream realm is a reflection of physical reality. The instance of his will changing reality was when willpower was actually in question. The Outlander could decide Valkorion was chained to the phrase since Valkorion's full consciousness was within the Outlander.

Revan and Satele Shan used the Force, presumably via meditation, to passively aid the Outlander in their fight, granting him additional weapons and abilities. They were not fully present, but they were working through and with the Outlander. Sorry mate, imo, unless Revan shows up and says "Hey, take this", I'm not sure it counts.

As awesome as that would be.

What, do you think the Outlander magically got Revan's power and weapons?

What, inside their magical dreamland where their will makes the rules?

No.... that would just be dumb.

That was only realized after the fight.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He did. NewGuy is wrong.

The Outlander can't magically imagine powers for himself.

You sure? Cause with the writing, that could be plausible.

The cutscenes make evident that the Outlander shaping reality only began following the fight. Valkorion didn't recognize that it was possible until the Outlander clarified "my mind, my rules." If he would have used that prior, it would have already been established. Plus, he wouldn't have just gotten Revan's powers if he could magically will things. Why wouldn't he will an army of a Jedi, every known power, etc? It just doesn't make sense and is inconsistent with the cutscenes.

I do not understand. How was the chant "kneel before the Dragon of Zakuul" effective?

Because the Outlander decided it would be.

so the Outlander... decided to win?

lmao 👍

Retarded writing FTW.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Because the Outlander decided it would be.
No.
Only Anakin can do that 😑

Outlander > the fvcking Force. I honestly wouldn't be surprised the new Expansion of SWTOR: Knights of the New Empire! has it being revealed the Outlander is the actual Chosen One, and then he'll die and his ghost will rape Shmi three thousand years later so he can kill Valkorion's(nope, still not dead) new host body: Palpatine!

Originally posted by MythLord
Outlander > the fvcking Force. I honestly wouldn't be surprised the new Expansion of SWTOR: Knights of the New Empire! has it being revealed the Outlander is the actual Tholme, and then he'll kill Valkorion's(nope, still not dead) new host body: Quinlan Vos! fixed

https://i.sli.mg/0FffVl.jpg

That's not Revan's lightsaber. Reported for fraud.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
https://i.sli.mg/0FffVl.jpg This shit is ****ing beautiful.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Because the Outlander decided it would be.


The Outlander can do that? Damn. He is all-powerful now.

It was in his own mind, and he creates the rules there(LMFAO)

Originally posted by Ursumeles
It was in his own mind, and he creates the rules there(LMFAO)
STFU Infidel.

Repent and seek his forgiveness.

Anakin Skywalker is da tru god.

Anakin is the Outlander's avatar, or b!tch sent to finish the job he started 'cause he's too busy fighting Galactus or something.

Originally posted by MythLord
Anakin is the Outlander's avatar, or b!tch sent to finish the job he started 'cause he's too busy fighting Galactus or something.

I agree with Nova on that it was better than I thought, but not that great. And I agree with Wollf that I am glad he's gone for good. I don't think this is the end of the EU, though. TOR will continue.