Peak Power Onslaught vs Void/Sentry...

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TheLordofMurder
Onslaught at his most powerful vs Void/Sentry as he was went he defeated Owen...

Battle to the Death or KO with no BFR allowed...

Who wins?

RealityWarper
Onslaught tries to TP Sentry and becomes his familiar.

Sentry curbstomps without fighting.

quanchi112
Void, easily. This thread has been done a million times, LoM. Just TI be a little original, kiddo.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread has been done a million times

Filthy LIE!!!!!

Unless you can produce 1 million instances of this thread being done...

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TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Onslaught tries to TP Sentry and becomes his familiar.

Sentry curbstomps without fighting.

Even against a being with the combined power of Franklin and Nate?

Franklins power alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Senrty.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Filthy LIE!!!!!

Unless you can produce 1 million instances of this thread being done...

wink This will exceed the limits of links posted on kmc, kiddo. Void wins.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
This will exceed the limits of links posted on kmc, kiddo. Void wins.

Since you cant back up your claim you give in the power of MURDER...

Onslaught wins via mindrape...

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Since you cant back up your claim you give in the power of MURDER...

Onslaught wins via mindrape... I just explained why but you being a troll you just ignore it. Who has mind rapes the Void and defeated him in combat ?

Back your claims, troll.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just explained why but you being a troll you just ignore it. Who has mind rapes the Void and defeated him in combat ?

Back your claims, troll.

All the hero's had to prep against psionic attack to even get close to Onslaught and Void/Sentry is mentally unstable...

Onslaught wins...

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
All the hero's had to prep against psionic attack to even get close to Onslaught and Void/Sentry is mentally unstable...

Onslaught wins... Who mind raped the void while in combat ? The void isn't mentally weak. Have you read anything to do with the Void ?

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TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Who mind raped the void while in combat ? The void isn't mentally weak. Have you read anything to do with the Void ?

laughing out loud

Void/Sentry is extremely frail mentally...

And Onslaught mind raped both Wolvie and Storm...

All of the heroes had to prep against psionic attack or they would have been mind raped by Onslaught immediately...

Onslaught easily overpowered Jean mentally...


Onslaught wins via mind rape and it isnt even close...

If I remember correctly, you believe that Thanos beats Void/Senrty via mindrape as well...

Well Franklins psionic powers (and Onslaught has complete control of them)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos's.


Once again, Onslaught mind rapes Void/Sentry and its game over...

Onslaught wins...

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Void/Sentry is extremely frail mentally...

And Onslaught mind raped both Wolvie and Storm...

All of the heroes had to prep against psionic attack or they would have been mind raped by Onslaught immediately...

Onslaught easily overpowered Jean mentally...


Onslaught wins via mind rape and it isnt even close...

If I remember correctly, you believe that Thanos beats Void/Senrty via mindrape as well...

Well Franklins psionic powers (and Onslaught has complete control of them)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos's.


Once again, Onslaught mind rapes Void/Sentry and its game over...

Onslaught wins...

smile So not one example of a mind rape against the Void or Sentry. So you concede the debate. Again void wins based off evidence. Evidence matters. pull yourself together, kiddo.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
So not one example of a mind rape against the Void or Sentry. So you concede the debate. Again void wins based off evidence. Evidence matters. pull yourself together, kiddo.

Franklin Richards psionic power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Sentry.

Onslaught wins easily...

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Void/Sentry is extremely frail mentally...

And Onslaught mind raped both Wolvie and Storm...

All of the heroes had to prep against psionic attack or they would have been mind raped by Onslaught immediately...

Onslaught easily overpowered Jean mentally...


Onslaught wins via mind rape and it isnt even close...

If I remember correctly, you believe that Thanos beats Void/Senrty via mindrape as well...

Well Franklins psionic powers (and Onslaught has complete control of them)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos's.


Once again, Onslaught mind rapes Void/Sentry and its game over...

Onslaught wins...

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Franklin Richards psionic power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Sentry.

Onslaught wins easily... This is about onslaught and the void. You made a claim you can't back thus you concede. Void wins. Your bait threads are always amusing since you're wrong.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is about onslaught and the void. You made a claim you can't back thus you concede. Void wins. Your bait threads are always amusing since you're wrong.

I've already proved that Onslaught>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Sentry.

Onslaught wins via mind rape.

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TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Void/Sentry is extremely frail mentally...

And Onslaught mind raped both Wolvie and Storm...

All of the heroes had to prep against psionic attack or they would have been mind raped by Onslaught immediately...

Onslaught easily overpowered Jean mentally...


Onslaught wins via mind rape and it isnt even close...

If I remember correctly, you believe that Thanos beats Void/Senrty via mindrape as well...

Well Franklins psionic powers (and Onslaught has complete control of them)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos's.


Once again, Onslaught mind rapes Void/Sentry and its game over...

Onslaught wins...

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I've already proved that Onslaught>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Sentry.

Onslaught wins via mind rape.

smile You never understood your baseless claims are not proof. Poor thing. Void wins.

TheLordofMurder
Onslaught wins via mind rape...

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Void/Sentry is extremely frail mentally...

And Onslaught mind raped both Wolvie and Storm...

All of the heroes had to prep against psionic attack or they would have been mind raped by Onslaught immediately...

Onslaught easily overpowered Jean mentally...


Onslaught wins via mind rape and it isnt even close...

If I remember correctly, you believe that Thanos beats Void/Senrty via mindrape as well...

Well Franklins psionic powers (and Onslaught has complete control of them)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos's.


Once again, Onslaught mind rapes Void/Sentry and its game over...

Onslaught wins...

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Onslaught wins via mind rape... Based on which showings ?

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on which showings ?

Easily overpowering Jean psionically...

Having psionic power so vast that all the heroes had to prep against psionic attack just to get close to Onslaught without failling under his control as well...

Void/Sentry is so unstable that at one point in time he was scared to leave the house...

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Onslaught mind rapes easily...

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Easily overpowering Jean psionically...

Having psionic power so vast that all the heroes had to prep against psionic attack just to get close to Onslaught without failling under his control as well...

Void/Sentry is so unstable that at one point in time he was scared to leave the house...

laughing out loud

Onslaught mind rapes easily... So you don't have one showing in which anyone overpowers the Void in this manner. Very telling. Void wins.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Void/Sentry is extremely frail mentally...

And Onslaught mind raped both Wolvie and Storm...

All of the heroes had to prep against psionic attack or they would have been mind raped by Onslaught immediately...

Onslaught easily overpowered Jean mentally...


Onslaught wins via mind rape and it isnt even close...

If I remember correctly, you believe that Thanos beats Void/Senrty via mindrape as well...

Well Franklins psionic powers (and Onslaught has complete control of them)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos's.


Once again, Onslaught mind rapes Void/Sentry and its game over...

Onslaught wins...

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
thumb up Already refuted.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you don't have one showing in which anyone overpowers the Void in this manner. Very telling. Void wins.

Voids mind is so weak that he was scared to leave the house...

All the heroes on Earth had to prep against psionic attack to even get close to Onslaught...

Onslaught wins via mind rape...

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Already refuted.

You've been refuted...

Franklins power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Sentry's.

Voids mind is weak and feeble...

Onslaught mind rapes the living hell out of Void...

RealityWarper
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You've been refuted...

Franklins power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Sentry's.

Voids mind is weak and feeble...

Onslaught mind rapes the living hell out of Void...

Sentry godstomped Molecule Man whom is way beyond Franklin in power.

Onslaught's best feat at his peak is to create a miniature Sun.

Void / Sentry godstomps Onslaught effortlessly.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry godstomped Molecule Man whom is way beyond Franklin in power.

Onslaught's best feat at his peak is to create a miniature Sun.

Void / Sentry godstomps Onslaught effortlessly.

Thats an exaggeration...

1) That was one of the weakest versions of Owen ever; Owen was only able to Reality Warp on a local scale during the Dark Avengers arc...

2) Sentry did not stomp Owen; Owen crushed Sentry twice easily. Sentry only got the advantage over Owen when Owen was distracted by the incoming nuke...

3) Peak Power Onslaughts star creating feat was beyond what Owen was during Dark Avengers....


Add it all up and Onslaught crushes Sentry who was absolutely unstable mentally while Onslaughts psionic powers were vast and Onslaught knew how to use them...

Keep in mind that Peak Power Onslaught had the psionic power of Franklin, Nate, and Xavier combined...

Do you really think that kind of psionic power cant overwhelm someone who is so weak minded that he was scared to leave the house?


Onslaught crushes him....

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thats an exaggeration...

1) That was one of the weakest versions of Owen ever; Owen was only able to Reality Warp on a local scale during the Dark Avengers arc...

2) Sentry did not stomp Owen; Owen crushed Senrty twice easily. Sentry only got the advantage over Owen when Owen was distracted by the incoming nuke...

3) Peak Power Onslaughts star creating feat was beyond what Owen was during Dark Avengers....


Add it all up and Onslaught crushes Sentry who was absolutely unstable mentally while Onslaughts psionic powers were vast and Onslaught knew how to use them...

Keep in mind that Peak Power Onslaught had the psionic power of Franklin, Nate, and Xavier combined...

Do you really think that kind of psionic power cant overwhelm someone who is so weak minded that he was scared to leave the house?


Onslaught crushes him....

Why did you bother making this thread if you think Onslaught stomps that badly? Did you just make a spite thread (in your mind) for the sake of it?

And it was Sentry who fought Molecule Man. Not the Void or this so called Voidtry, Void/Sentry. The white captions make that quite clear.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Why did you bother making this thread if you think Onslaught stomps that badly? Did you just make a spite thread (in your mind) for the sake of it?

And it was Sentry who fought Molecule Man. Not the Void or this so called Voidtry, Void/Sentry. The white captions make that quite clear.

My interpretation of that fight was that Sentry was starting to draw on the Void during his fight against Owen; his demeanor was changing and darkening...

And Onslaught stomping badly may be too strong; I do think Onslaught wins though...

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
My interpretation of that fight was that Sentry was starting to draw on the Void during his fight against Owen; his demeanor was changing and darkening...

And Onslaught stomping badly may be too strong; I do think Onslaught wins though...

Sentry never draws on the Void. It would go completely alien to the lore of the character(s). In this particular fight being under extreme duress he discovered his ability to manipulate molecules. When he gets really pissed or stressed that tends to happen (with regards to his demeanour darkening as you phrased it). Take for example when he was fighting Ultron.

http://i.imgur.com/Bc3WfYp.png

Same thing happened. But we can see it isn't the Void.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Voids mind is so weak that he was scared to leave the house...

All the heroes on Earth had to prep against psionic attack to even get close to Onslaught...

Onslaught wins via mind rape...

And I need to address this as well. If you see the story then you can clearly see that wasn't the Void at all. It's the Sentry. Nothing to do with the Void.

The Void may be insane but he isn't unstable or scared of anything. Neither is Sentry all the time.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Sentry never draws on the Void. It would go completely alien to the lore of the character(s). In this particular fight being under extreme duress he discovered his ability to manipulate molecules. When he gets really pissed or stressed that tends to happen (with regards to his demeanour darkening as you phrased it). Take for example when he was fighting Ultron.

http://i.imgur.com/Bc3WfYp.png

Same thing happened. But we can see it isn't the Void.

Good point...

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I still think anyone facing Peak Power Onslaught without some sort of extreme defense against psionic attack is doomed though...

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Voids mind is so weak that he was scared to leave the house...

All the heroes on Earth had to prep against psionic attack to even get close to Onslaught...

Onslaught wins via mind rape... That isn't the Void, your ignorance is why no one takes you seriously on this board. Void wins.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You've been refuted...

Franklins power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Void/Sentry's.

Voids mind is weak and feeble...

Onslaught mind rapes the living hell out of Void... Prove it.

Absolutely false. Your ignorance isn't an excuse for you to consistently post nonsense in these threads. You already admitted you believe this is an absolute stomp in Onslaughts favor thus you're guilty of baiting and a spite thread per your own words.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thats an exaggeration...

No.



Owen's power wasn't weakened, Owen wasn't depowered.

He chosen not to affect the outside world on purpose to avoid attracting the attention of Reed Richards.

Molecule Man is extremely powerful but not very smart.

There isn't a single mention of Owen being unable to do something in that arc, which he usually manifest by speech like "I can't affect ".

On the other hand, there is a lot of statements by Owen himself being able to do things he didn't do usually.

That shows that Owen power wasn't restricted at all during that arc as only his beliefs on his abilities is what affect them.

Tom Brevoort, whom edited Dark Avengers, confirmed that Owen wasn't weakened or depowered during that arc.



Owen crushed Sentry at a moment he didn't know he has power similar to Owen aka manipulating the reality.

Once Bob realized he had similar powers, Owen was incapable to do anything to him, was submitted and crushed effortlessly.

That's not the context you are trying to falsely spread.




Onslaught has never showed anything remotely close to Owen in power, same with Franklin Richards.

The best that Franklin showed was a power at a Universal-scale.

Owen demonstrated 3 times that he is an Omniversal-scale reality manipulator.

Does Sentry's limitless power-level put him far above Owen as he crushed him effortlessly ?

Yes, indeed.




Sentry has wiped the mind of everyone on Earth and Moon, including Uatu the Watcher, on a whim.

Onslaught has no telepathic feats at this level.






And none of them have shown a power that make them close to Sentry, that's too bad.







That's a loaded question and a poor attempt at diverting the readers to an irrelevant point.

Nobody entered into Sentry's mind without his consent and contrary to what you are saying, Sentry's mind is very powerful.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/49/1481036949-sentrydarknessagents-of-atlas-003-pg-22.jpg





In your dreams.

Onslaught has no feats that put him close to Sentry.

Sentry destroyed the most powerful man in existence effortlessly thus proving he is the most powerful man in existence.

Onslaught created a miniature Sun. \o/

Insane Titan
Sentry got killed by his wife who blew his head off with a laser gun

Surtur
The only way Onslaught can win is if you want to try to say all of Franklins feats apply to him.

But they shouldn't apply. Because even though he apparently had the power..he didn't really do much with it..he didn't properly utilize Franklins powers at all. It seemed like he barely tapped into a fraction of Franklins power.

Going just by every feat Onslaught has, he's going to get owned here pretty badly.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Sentry got killed by his wife who blew his head off with a laser gun

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@Reality Warper

This one above statement throws mud on your statement that Sentry is the most powerful character in all of Marvel...


Btw, you do know that Owen wanted to lose dont you?

If you didnt kow this, you might want to go back and reread the dialog between Owen and the other apsects of himself that he was having a conversation with during that arc (Mephisto and the others)...

As for Owens power level, if he was intentionally limiting himself, it doesnt really matter if he was depowered or not as the end result is the exact same: he was not using his power on a level anywhere near what he had in the past...

So yeah, Sentry beat a gimped, unstable, Owen...period.


As for Onslaught not using psionic power on the same level that Sentry did, you are dead wrong...

Everything Onslaught did was based on psionics; even the Reality Warping (Franklins power on full display)...

The effortless creation of a second Sun blows Sentry's mind wiping feat away and its not even close...


Once again, Onslaught wins this via Mind Rape...

Void/Sentry is not unbeatable and Onslaught has all the tools needed to beat him...

quanchi112
Void wins. Far greater power than Onslaught.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Void wins. Far greater power than Onslaught.

Based on?

zopzop
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry has wiped the mind of everyone on Earth and Moon, including Uatu the Watcher, on a whim.

Onslaught has no telepathic feats at this level.

Wait, I remember something about this but not the exact details. Is this true? If so, Onslaught gets destroyed. Because going by on panel feats, this trumps anything Onslaught did.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by zopzop
Wait, I remember something about this but not the exact details. Is this true? If so, Onslaught gets destroyed. Because going by on panel feats, this trumps anything Onslaught did.

I'm not so sure...

The creation of a star is far greater in scale than this...

Inaddition, battle against Peak Power Onslaught was completely impossible without prepping against extreme psionic attack...

Sentry could be fought in the conventional sense; Onslaught could not...

zopzop
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I'm not so sure...

The creation of a star is far greater in scale than this...

Is it though? Mindphucking Uatu (if it happened) is HUGE. It's only been done by beings of Abraxas' level.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by zopzop
Is it though? Mindphucking Uatu (if it happened) is HUGE. It's only been done by beings of Abraxas' level.

I'm not sure if there is context or not to the Uatu thing either; I'd be happy to see scans from Reality Warper for myself however...

quanchi112
Creation of a star isn't that impressive battle wise. LoM has no clue on how to debate based off combat related relevancy. He just makes threads he believes his guy stomps and slithers away when people decimate his ignorance.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Creation of a star isn't that impressive battle wise. LoM has no clue on how to debate based off combat related relevancy. He just makes threads he believes his guy stomps and slithers away when people decimate his ignorance.

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Onslaught created that star on a whim, so theres no reason for him to not do something equally impressive with there being no plot or PIS to stop him in a forum setting...

Of course a small mind like yours cant grasp at the enormity of creating a star on a whim...

Eh...you back to blowing Thanos and leave the debate to the real men quanchi.

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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Onslaught created that star on a whim, so theres no reason for him to not do something equally impressive with there being no plot or PIS to stop him in a forum setting...

Of course a small mind like yours cant grasp at the enormity of creating a star on a whim...

Eh...you back to blowing Thanos and leave the debate to the real men quanchi.

smile So what ? That doesn't even compare to Hulks best, Thors best, etc.

It has no relevance for a battle.

Void can reform and he overpowered MM at his own game., combat related. He crushes Onslaught.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
So what ? That doesn't even compare to Hulks best, Thors best, etc.

It has no relevance for a battle.

Void can reform and he overpowered MM at his own game., combat related. He crushes Onslaught.

A single death or KO ends the match...

Onslaught wins...

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
A single death or KO ends the match...

Onslaught wins... Onslaugt doesn't have the power to do so. Void kills him effortlessly. He gets the MM treatment. You need to actually debate to be taken seriously.

zopzop
Quan do you have a scan of the Sentry/Void planet and moon mindwipe thing? If not is REalityWarpers statement accurate? Did he really alter Uatu's memory?

Insane Titan
Originally posted by zopzop
Quan do you have a scan of the Sentry/Void planet and moon mindwipe thing? If not is REalityWarpers statement accurate? Did he really alter Uatu's memory? RW is leaving context out and twisting the mind wiping feat, it's been debunked several times on here.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Onslaugt doesn't have the power to do so. Void kills him effortlessly. He gets the MM treatment. You need to actually debate to be taken seriously.

Onslaught has the power mind rape Void/Sentry into oblivion and win...

Void does not kill Onslaught effortlessly as Onslaught cant be killed in any conventional sense...

There is no proof that what worked on Owen will work here...

Afterall, matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only change shape...

The true form of Peak Power Onslaught is pure psionic energy which cannot be destroyed, thus Peak Power Onslaught cannot be destroyed...

Onslaught wins...

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Insane Titan
RW is leaving context out and twisting the mind wiping feat, it's been debunked several times on here.

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One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by zopzop
Quan do you have a scan of the Sentry/Void planet and moon mindwipe thing? If not is REalityWarpers statement accurate? Did he really alter Uatu's memory?

I would ignore people saying it was "taken out of context".

Here's the scans that are relevant to the moon related feat.

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669628_1.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669629_2.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669630_3.jpg

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669631_4.jpg

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669742_5.jpg

Note: The first image is to show the battle Medusa is talking about. Nothing is strictly mentioned about Uatu by the way.

http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t/30669648_6.jpg

http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t/30669649_7.jpg

Then this that makes it even more clearer.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/30669650_3gEZczc.png


Note it says "everyone in existence". But I don't like getting too excited about that phrase. Could it really mean everyone? Who knows...


The first occasion. A device powered by his serum.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/30669740_Sentry5_01.jpg

The transmitter is then increased 3 times.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/30669741_sentryvoid_18.jpg

But if we remember every other serum created afterwards was actually made to try and kill the Sentry. They were all duds. So that's another point. Sentry did it when pushed into doing it by Mastermind and in Sentry Vol 1 and Sentry vs Void #1.

RealityWarper

RealityWarper
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot

Note it says "everyone in existence". But I don't like getting too excited about that phrase. Could it really mean everyone? Who knows...



This is confirmed by Tony Stark in Civil War Files:

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/49/1481112725-unstoppablesentrycivil-wars-files-035-sentry-4.jpg

Stark said that Sentry can alter the memories of the humanity on a whim.


This is confirmed by Iron Man a second time in Civil War Battle Damage Report:

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/49/1481112730-civilwarbdr46-sentry-5.jpg





"Sentry's enemies tapped his psionic potential and erased, not only his memories of both Sentry and Void, but those of the entire world."

Also this:



HE HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR UNLIMITED PSIONIC ABILITY."

Bendis was just preparing everyone to know that Sentry is a beast and that he can beat cosmic beings like Molecule Man.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by RealityWarper
This is confirmed by Tony Stark in Civil War Files:



By everyone I was just joking/speculating how far beyond Earth they meant.I knew it was the Earth and the Moon. Was thinking it'd be amusing if they go to some planet on the edge of the Omniverse and their memory was wiped as well**

**And that is just me randomly joking.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
By everyone I was just joking/speculating how far beyond Earth they meant.I knew it was the Earth and the Moon. Was thinking it'd be amusing if they go to some planet on the edge of the Omniverse and their memory was wiped as well**

**And that is just me randomly joking.

I know about this but this have not to be excluded.

Galactus had one guy from Earth whom fought him to a standstill and he never mention it ? Come on.

TheLordofMurder
@Reality Warper

Ok, so let me get this right...

According to you creating a STAR is a "planetary level feat" (lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)...

Sentry is the most powerful being in all of Marvel, but could only stalemate Galactus (who Owen can wipe out with a thought)...

Sentry is completely unbeatable (which is so ridiculous that I wont even address it; the comics have done so already for me)...

Also, are you aware that Owen massively depowered himself after his reality spanning fight with Post Retcon Beyonder? Mr Master has the scans...ask him about it.


As for Sentry being "far more powerful than Owen," lol....just lol. Sentry beat an unstable Owen that was distracted...

You said it yourself, he was psychotic and was limiting his powers to hide from Reed Richards...

He gimped himself; Sentry beat that gimped Owen, but could only stalemate Galactus (which happened off-panel)...


Yep, you are right; Sentry is the #1 power in all of Marvel...

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zopzop
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I would ignore people saying it was "taken out of context".

Here's the scans that are relevant to the moon related feat.

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669628_1.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669629_2.jpg http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669630_3.jpg

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669631_4.jpg

http://s6d6.turboimg.net/t/30669742_5.jpg

Note: The first image is to show the battle Medusa is talking about. Nothing is strictly mentioned about Uatu by the way.

http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t/30669648_6.jpg

http://s6d3.turboimg.net/t/30669649_7.jpg

Then this that makes it even more clearer.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/30669650_3gEZczc.png


Note it says "everyone in existence". But I don't like getting too excited about that phrase. Could it really mean everyone? Who knows...


The first occasion. A device powered by his serum.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/30669740_Sentry5_01.jpg

The transmitter is then increased 3 times.

http://s6d4.turboimg.net/t/30669741_sentryvoid_18.jpg

But if we remember every other serum created afterwards was actually made to try and kill the Sentry. They were all duds. So that's another point. Sentry did it when pushed into doing it by Mastermind and in Sentry Vol 1 and Sentry vs Void #1.
Thanks Scott. Well this is pretty impressive even if Uatu isn't directly mentioned. IMHO, Onslaught (going by his ON PANEL feats) isn't mindphucking a seriuos Sentry.

quanchi112
Originally posted by zopzop
Quan do you have a scan of the Sentry/Void planet and moon mindwipe thing? If not is REalityWarpers statement accurate? Did he really alter Uatu's memory? No scans I lost my mega library of comics years ago on my old PC. Only my iPad remains.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

Ok, so let me get this right...

You have issues understanding what is right but let's see...



Yep.

Show me character able to create stars and planets that makes a difference in creating both of them.

I want you to support your loaded question with a scan. Good luck. thumb up




"Sentry is the most powerful man in existence."

That's a statement that was made by Quasimodo in the Dark Reign Files and that was confirmed in Dark Avengers when Sentry one-shotted Molecule Man.




It was years before he knows that his power is to manipulate the reality, thanks for not understanding the context once more.

Sentry erased Molecule Man with a thought. Fact.



I didn't say that. You did. Actually it's a strawman coming from you.

I asked you "who can beat Sentry ?"

I'm still waiting for an answer taking all of Sentry's abilities in account and his unlimited power-level of course.



A) It was after they formed a Cosmic Cube with the Beyonder and Owen regained his power and become even more powerful than he was.

B) You should learn about the characters before making claims that you can't support.



Mr Master copy and paste the same bullshit in all thread and don't know how Molecule Man's powers works.




I've already explained you this.



I've said that he was psychotic. Yes.




Strawman. Again.

I've explained to you that being mentally unstable doesn't limitate Owen's powers and that the editor confirmed that Owen wasn't weakened or depowered.

It seems that you are trying to find a way through using wilful ignorance and hand waving every proofs I have presented to you.

Owen was at full power and Sentry squished him like a bug.

Deal with that.



I've already explained that above.




The Above-All-Other is.

By feats Sentry is clearly far beyond Molecule Man. Deal with it.

Come back when you have arguments supported by facts.

Thus far you have been unable to support your claims.

Surtur
Originally posted by quanchi112
No scans I lost my mega library of comics years ago on my old PC. Only my iPad remains.

Tell us that your nude pics of Benedict Cumberbatch survived the purge?!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
Tell us that your nude pics of Benedict Cumberbatch survived the purge?! Your weirdness needs to stop.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your weirdness needs to stop.

I have the feeling that people whom are trying to answer my posts in this thread forgot to read them entirely in the first place.

hutchy1345
So sentry can wipe out molecule man but void couldn't one shot a team consisting of spiderman, captain america and thor etc?

Franklin richards could wipe sentry out with absolute ease

quanchi112
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I have the feeling that people whom are trying to answer my posts in this thread forgot to read them entirely in the first place. They can't admit they are wrong.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by hutchy1345
So sentry can wipe out molecule man but void couldn't one shot a team consisting of spiderman, captain america and thor etc?

Robert Reynolds wouldn't so it didn't happened. He was subconsciously stopping the Void. That's the same reason why the Void didn't killed Reynold's wife.



You are jumping to conclusion that's completely baseless.

Franklin is a Universal-shaper.

He is not in the same power-league than Molecule Man and even less in Sentry's.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They can't admit they are wrong.

Yes. They don't understand the context neither.

One_Angry_Scot
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RealityWarper
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
.

You've made a point.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by RealityWarper
You've made a point.

A point nobody can argue against. evil face

hutchy1345
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Robert Reynolds wouldn't so it didn't happened. He was subconsciously stopping the Void. That's the same reason why the Void didn't killed Reynold's wife.



You are jumping to conclusion that's completely baseless.

Franklin is a Universal-shaper.

He is not in the same power-league than Molecule Man and even less in Sentry's.



Yes. They don't understand the context neither.

Where is your evidence he was stopping the void from killing them, void killed ares so he obviously wasn't being held back.

Franklin became basically god of a universe and was shaping it to his will. He acts in yoctoseconds so has faster reaction time than the flash. Franklin could turn celestial level blasts into flowers before he was close to puberty and he one shotted celestials for fun as an adult and I would argue that he should've been ever more powerful than that based on his performance as a child. In summary, Franklin can make a universe out of nothing, warp reality to do whatever he wants (ie. make himself stronger than void) AND massively outclasses sentry who acted in milliseconds. Void will be a statue to franklin who would simply wish him away.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
A point nobody can argue against. evil face

Indeed.

Originally posted by hutchy1345
Where is your evidence he was stopping the void from killing them, void killed ares so he obviously wasn't being held back.

You are moving the goalpost once more.

Robert was feeling guilty of his evil deeds as the Void and asked Thor to kill him.





Thanks for clarifying that you know that Franklin is just at Universal-level.

Franklin is inferior to Sentry.

You clearly don't know how the reality warping works.

So far Franklin, whatever how old he was, didn't displayed Superhuman strength.

I like how you are trying to stretch a statement said on panel by a character.

Those characters tends to be similar in terms of reaction.

It doesn't matter if Franklin takes the initiative of the attack or not, which is what you are claiming, he demonstrated a power far inferior to Molecule Man and Sentry at that point.

Now let's go back on topic, it's about Sentry Vs Onslaught so you can stop your FR wank. wink

thumb up

Surtur
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Sentry got killed by his wife who blew his head off with a laser gun

Hulk got choked out by a snake. So I'm definitely looking forward to the next Hulk thread now.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Surtur
Hulk got choked out by a snake. So I'm definitely looking forward to the next Hulk thread now.

Thanos killed himself via destroying his head and needed Death intervention to come back 3 MONTHS AFTER ! thumb up

Surtur
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Thanos killed himself via destroying his head and needed Death intervention to come back 3 MONTHS AFTER ! thumb up

Dude, you should have just brought up him getting busted by cops or something. The fact he was able to do damage to himself isn't really low end.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Surtur
Dude, you should have just brought up him getting busted by cops or something.

That's too easy for a gentleman like me.



That's not what I wanted to point.

Thanos is a weakling whom needs an exterior help to come back to life.

Destroying Thanos' head instantly kills him while this doesn't even give an headache to Sentry.

That's clearly two completely different power-levels. thumb up

Surtur
Has..someone said Thanos can defeat full powered Sentry?

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Surtur
Has..someone said Thanos can defeat full powered Sentry?

Do you know Comicvine Thanos ?

He can stomp half of the DC Universe with his left hand and half the Marvel Universe with his right hand.

I prefer the comic book version whom lost to the Ultimates. thumb up

Surtur
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Do you know Comicvine Thanos ?

He can stomp half of the DC Universe with his left hand and half the Marvel Universe with his right hand.

I prefer the comic book version whom lost to the Ultimates. thumb up

Thanos is in the weird category where he's far above people like Silver Surfer, but yet not really powerful enough to be considered even a low level cosmic.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Surtur
Thanos is in the weird category where he's far above people like Silver Surfer, but yet not really powerful enough to be considered even a low level cosmic.

I totally agree with you mate. thumb up

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Surtur
Hulk got choked out by a snake. So I'm definitely looking forward to the next Hulk thread now. not comparable to what I said at all.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Thanos killed himself via destroying his head and needed Death intervention to come back 3 MONTHS AFTER ! thumb up he's the avatar of death you moron.

In the same story he was tanking planet busting attacks that killed all earths heroes and Galactus and Celestials

Surtur
Originally posted by Insane Titan
not comparable to what I said at all.

Oh it's not comparable? My apologies. I thought you were trying to do the whole "low end feat" thing. But it seems you were just trying to show us just how friggin powerful his wifes laser gun is.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by RealityWarper
That's too easy for a gentleman like me.



That's not what I wanted to point.

Thanos is a weakling whom needs an exterior help to come back to life.

Destroying Thanos' head instantly kills him while this doesn't even give an headache to Sentry.

That's clearly two completely different power-levels. thumb up non canon you idiot.


Nobody else has ever killed him in such a way, you clinging to that proves how sad you are.

Thor killed Void with hammer shots, something Thanos smiles at. Hell Sentry's dog hurt him and made him bleed.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by Surtur
Oh it's not comparable? My apologies. I thought you were trying to do the whole "low end feat" thing. But it seems you were just trying to show us just how friggin powerful his wifes laser gun is. again showing your stupidity. There is no low showing thing going on, Sentry has lots of showings of him getting harmed by things not Molecule Man lvl, yet posters try to act like he's a omniversal lvl guy who can't be harmed.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
non canon you idiot.


Nobody else has ever killed him in such a way, you clinging to that proves how sad you are.

Thor killed Void with hammer shots, something Thanos smiles at. Hell Sentry's dog hurt him and made him bleed.

Thor killed the Void because Robert Reynolds allowed himself to be killed. He even said this to Thor. And Bendis himself said this and whether or not you deem interviews asdmissable it's already in the comics.

And Sentry's dog has the exact same power as him. So it's not a surprise it can hurt him.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
again showing your stupidity. There is no low showing thing going on, Sentry has lots of showings of him getting harmed by things not Molecule Man lvl, yet posters try to act like he's a omniversal lvl guy who can't be harmed.

Depending on his mental state he becomes weaker. And all characters share that problem. I'm pretty sure Thanos isn't protected from that.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Thor killed the Void because Robert Reynolds allowed himself to be killed. He even said this to Thor. And Bendis himself said this and whether or not you deem interviews asdmissable it's alreaddy in the comics.

And Sentry's dog has the exact same power as him. So it's not a surprise it can hurt him. he let him kill be stopping the Void attacking, nothing more. He didn't drop his durability or damage soak, it simply crumbled.

Lmao his dog has done nothing similar to him.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Thor killed the Void because Robert Reynolds allowed himself to be killed. He even said this to Thor. And Bendis himself said this and whether or not you deem interviews asdmissable it's already in the comics.

And Sentry's dog has the exact same power as him. So it's not a surprise it can hurt him.

Well said. thumb up

Insane Titan
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Depending on his mental state he becomes weaker. And all characters share that problem. I'm pretty sure Thanos isn't protected from that. Thanos doesn't suffer from that excuse, plus I don't act or believe he's a far above a certain lvl like Sentry fans do.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
he let him kill be stopping the Void attacking, nothing more. He didn't drop his durability or damage soak, it simply crumbled.

Lmao his dog has done nothing similar to him.

Wrong. You haven't read the interview or the lore have you? Bendis said Sentry doesn't go without his cooperation. And that was shown. And are you joking? He didn't stop the void attacking. The Void had the Avengers in tendrils when Thor was hitting him. But as explained Robert wanted to die properly for the first time. If you deny that you're willfully denying the facts in teh comic.

It's stated clearly that Watchdog has Sentry's powers. You can take the mick out of it but that's what is stated.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos doesn't suffer from that excuse, plus I don't act or believe he's a far above a certain lvl like Sentry fans do.

Oh so having a mental disorder which weakens him is an excuse? If you weren't thinking of that part I apologize. But likewise that isn't the only point. Not a single character has plot armour from being damaged by someone much weaker than them. But I am not (and haven't ever) used that as an excuse. It is sometimes valid but in Sentry's case we have a good explanation for that.

And I don't get the 2nd part of your message since I don't count myself as one of them - infact you have said yourself I am a reasonable Sentry fan.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Wrong. You haven't read the interview or the lore have you? Bendis said Sentry doesn't go without his cooperation. And that was shown. And are you joking? He didn't stop the void attacking. The Void had the Avengers in tendrils when Thor was hitting him. But as explained Robert wanted to die properly for the first time. If you deny that you're willfully denying the facts in teh comic.

It's stated clearly that Watchdog has Sentry's powers. You can take the mick out of it but that's what is stated. yeah I have read it. Bend is words mean shit read the rules. The Void had them and did nothing more than hold them. Voids durability caved in.

Feats count not statements.

Phyla Vell was the avatar of death the same as Thanos and she was weak as piss.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
yeah I have read it. Bend is words mean shit read the rules. The Void had them and did nothing more than hold them. Voids durability caved in.

Feats count not statements.

Phyla Vell was the avatar of death the same as Thanos and she was weak as piss.

Just because Bendis is hated for some stuff it doesn't mean he is wrong about everything. He said it himself and it's made obvious he didn't go until he wanted to.

Robert was alive in the Sun. How do you think he stayed in there? Because he wished his body to stay dead. He said it himself. He stayed dead because he wanted to.

So what tier do you place Watchdog then? By using this specific logic you put yourself in a no-lose situation. You can sit back and say Sentry got wounded by a above average dog. But we know what is said of Normie. You can't choose to ignore it in this context.

I don't get the point about Phyla Vell. I'm saying that there is no character in comics history that is invincible being damage from much weaker characters. I don't see it as a viable excuse a lot fo the time but there is a right time and place for this excuse for all characters.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Oh so having a mental disorder which weakens him is an excuse? If you weren't thinking of that part I apologize. But likewise that isn't the only point. Not a single character has plot armour from being damaged by someone much weaker than them. But I am not (and haven't ever) used that as an excuse. It is sometimes valid but in Sentry's case we have a good explanation for that.

And I don't get the 2nd part of your message since I don't count myself as one of them - infact you have said yourself I am a reasonable Sentry fan.

There is no Sentry fans in that thread, only reasonable debaters with more or less feeling for one character.

Good debating by the way. thumb up

Insane Titan
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Just because Bendis is hated for some stuff it doesn't mean he is wrong about everything. He said it himself and it's made obvious he didn't go until he wanted to.

Robert was alive in the Sun. How do you think he stayed in there? Because he wished his body to stay dead. He said it himself. He stayed dead because he wanted to.

So what tier do you place Watchdog then? By using this specific logic you put yourself in a no-lose situation. You can sit back and say Sentry got wounded by a above average dog. But we know what is said of Normie. You can't choose to ignore it in this context.

I don't get the point about Phyla Vell. I'm saying that there is no character in comics history that is invincible being damage from much weaker characters. I don't see it as a viable excuse a lot fo the time but there is a right time and place for this excuse for all characters. his mean nothing as he constantly ignores continuity and others characters history/powers and is know for trying to alter stories after they published.

When Thor caved his head in his was dead simple as that, all the other stuff was added later.

I don't place the dog in any tier, the dog may have had the "same" powerset but it clearly wasn't at Bobs lvl.

You totally misse the point, as avatar of death Phyla had same power set as avatar Thanos. But the 2 were vastly different in power. So saying the dog had the same power is wrong.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
his mean nothing as he constantly ignores continuity and others characters history/powers and is know for trying to alter stories after they published.

When Thor caved his head in his was dead simple as that, all the other stuff was added later.

I don't place the dog in any tier, the dog may have had the "same" powerset but it clearly wasn't at Bobs lvl.

You totally misse the point, as avatar of death Phyla had same power set as avatar Thanos. But the 2 were vastly different in power. So saying the dog had the same power is wrong.

It doesn't matter if he ignores others continuity. Even if he didn't give a shit about anyone else but he loved the Sentry. Doesn't make him wrong.

And it makes no difference if it was added later. It was reasonable to assume that beforehand and that was a confirmation.

You was the one saying a thread that since Thanos is dying that is why he was so weak in Secret Wars. But the same argument you use. "The other stuff was added later" could be used against you.

I'm picking the best explanation. Not necessarily the right one (if it is wrong that is) but it's the most reasonable one.

Right I see thanks for clarifying. Difference is that Sentry's powers can be shared. To either Bob's level, 50% level 29.5% level. I should add Normie got Bob's powers but I recall it being mentioned as a portion. I should've clarified when I said "Sentry's powers". That was my fault.

http://i.imgur.com/1ffGmni.jpg

hutchy1345
Why are Cavs on comicvine for sentry placing him against people like hyperion and silver surfer if he's a multiversal entity of destruction?

Surely it would be a stomp

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Why are Cavs on comicvine for sentry placing him against people like hyperion and silver surfer if he's a multiversal entity of destruction?

Surely it would be a stomp

Because all people have different opinions. You see people on comicvine overrate Superman sometimes.

Just like people overrate Silver Surfer on CBR.

hutchy1345
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Because all people have different opinions. You see people on comicvine overrate Superman sometimes.

Just like people overrate Silver Surfer on CBR.

Well those are some massively contrasting opinions lol there must be something wrong!

Seeing as your profile is sentry photos, I'm willing to assume some bias is coming into play...
But hey whatever.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Well those are some massively contrasting opinions lol there must be something wrong!

Seeing as your profile is sentry photos, I'm willing to assume some bias is coming into play...
But hey whatever.

Biased? Just because I am a Sentry fan doesn't make me biased. Ask anyone here and they will tell you the complete opposite. I could have made a sig of Negan and then you wouldn't have ever said what you said there.

On the topic of comicvine check this out.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-vs-toaamarvel-409100/

****ing hilarious.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Biased? Just because I am a Sentry fan doesn't make me biased. Ask anyone here and they will tell you the complete opposite. I could have made a sig of Negan and then you wouldn't have ever said what you said there.

On the topic of comicvine check this out.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/hulk-vs-toaamarvel-409100/

****ing hilarious.

Typical coming from comicvine.

You can see Silver Surfer going against complete teams of Superman-level characters despite he is regularly struggling (and even losing) to Thor.

That's cringe worthy.

hutchy1345
So sentry really is stronger than franklin?
I'm genuinely interested to know, new enough to comics so I am

Think it's become clear that either way onslaught loses

Insane Titan
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It doesn't matter if he ignores others continuity. Even if he didn't give a shit about anyone else but he loved the Sentry. Doesn't make him wrong.

And it makes no difference if it was added later. It was reasonable to assume that beforehand and that was a confirmation.

You was the one saying a thread that since Thanos is dying that is why he was so weak in Secret Wars. But the same argument you use. "The other stuff was added later" could be used against you.

I'm picking the best explanation. Not necessarily the right one (if it is wrong that is) but it's the most reasonable one.

Right I see thanks for clarifying. Difference is that Sentry's powers can be shared. To either Bob's level, 50% level 29.5% level. I should add Normie got Bob's powers but I recall it being mentioned as a portion. I should've clarified when I said "Sentry's powers". That was my fault.

http://i.imgur.com/1ffGmni.jpg no it couldn't be used at all against me, Thanos has shown to be different in his powers for a period of time in interlinking stories.

I have no problem with your explanation. But I the dog isn't nothing like Sentry in power.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
yeah I have read it. Bend is words mean shit read the rules. The Void had them and did nothing more than hold them. Voids durability caved in.

Feats count not statements.

Phyla Vell was the avatar of death the same as Thanos and she was weak as piss. Feats and statements count. You don't get to decide what does and doesn't count.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats and statements count. You don't get to decide what does and doesn't count. shut you double standard moron. Statements from writers don't count.

laughing out loud you keep backing RW, the guy who keeps saying Thanos is weak and nothing to Sentry. You're the big Thanos guy eh!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
shut you double standard moron. Statements from writers don't count.

laughing out loud you keep backing RW, the guy who keeps saying Thanos is weak and nothing to Sentry. You're the big Thanos guy eh! When it comes to their own work it absolutely counts. What doesn't count is a writer's opinion outside their own canon work.

I believe Thanos beats the Sentry but I also believe you're picking and choosing what counts and doesn't due to personal bias. The writers churn out the stories and you're saying their opinion on their own work doesn't matter. Absurd.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
no it couldn't be used at all against me, Thanos has shown to be different in his powers for a period of time in interlinking stories.

I have no problem with your explanation. But I the dog isn't nothing like Sentry in power.



It could. Because it's the same situation. I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong since that isn't the topic (though I am skeptical). But they are the same situations.

Sentry "died" and Thor took him into the Sun. We then find out later that he was alive all the time buit just holding off the Void. Which given Sentry's capabilities is a reasonable assumption to be made even a couple of months after SIEGE. Considering he exists as a "soul".

Thanos was in Secret Wars etc. We suddenly find out he was dying. Which you then used to explain Secret Wars. Which isn't technically factually based.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos has shown to be different in his powers for a period of time in interlinking stories.


Does that sound like a perfect description of Sentry to you? Certainly does to me. So again the point can be made against you.

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The Watchdog conversation is probably quite pointless really. Not really possible for either of us to write a dissertation about it.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It could. Because it's the same situation. I'm not saying you are necessarily wrong since that isn't the topic (though I am skeptical). But they are the same situations.

Sentry "died" and Thor took him into the Sun. We then find out later that he was alive all the time buit just holding off the Void. Which given Sentry's capabilities is a reasonable assumption to be made even a couple of months after SIEGE. Considering he exists as a "soul".

Thanos was in Secret Wars etc. We suddenly find out he was dying. Which you then used to explain Secret Wars. Which isn't technically factually based.



Does that sound like a perfect description of Sentry to you? Certainly does to me. So again the point can be made against you.

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The Watchdog conversation is probably quite pointless really. Not really possible for either of us to write a dissertation about it. I see what you're getting at but to me it's not the same , as the bits Bendis added were not shown on panel, The instance for Thanos are shown on panel in a story setting.

Wrong, I never used secret wars as proof. I said his showings against the ultimates(after secret wars onwards) could be a result of said dying.

I'm not talking about power/sets, again was talking about Thanos durability/what he can with stand.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
When it comes to their own work it absolutely counts. What doesn't count is a writer's opinion outside their own canon work.

I believe Thanos beats the Sentry but I also believe you're picking and choosing what counts and doesn't due to personal bias. The writers churn out the stories and you're saying their opinion on their own work doesn't matter. Absurd. nothing counts unless it's shown on panel.

Haha you're saying what Bendis says is now legit, he contradicts himself in his stories all the times.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
nothing counts unless it's shown on panel.

Haha you're saying what Bendis says is now legit, he contradicts himself in his stories all the times. Wrong. Basically you are saying any interpretation on what is shown counts but the not the guy who wrote it. His words are law pertaining to his own work.

False, you are wrong. Quit thinking about specific writers and focus on the greater truth. The writer matters per his own work otherwise dummies are free to misinterpret and troll all day long. I do not like people who troll.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by Insane Titan
I see what you're getting at but to me it's not the same , as the bits Bendis added were not shown on panel, The instance for Thanos are shown on panel in a story setting.

Wrong, I never used secret wars as proof. I said his showings against the ultimates(after secret wars onwards) could be a result of said dying.

I'm not talking about power/sets, again was talking about Thanos durability/what he can with stand.

Ah right my bad if I got it wrong. But even if you are saying Secret Wars onwards then he doesn't show any sign of dying against the Ultimates. Heck if I remember he wanted to be captured didn't he?

And for Sentry we know his story. His lore etc. But we're just going around in circles and I'm getting tired so Ill be going to bed now. At least we're slowly getting to an agreement (but that's better than nothing big grin).

Stoic
Originally posted by hutchy1345
So sentry really is stronger than franklin?
I'm genuinely interested to know, new enough to comics so I am

Think it's become clear that either way onslaught loses


Doubtful, but I wouldn't place him far below. The problem with trying to gauge Sentry's full power is that we've never seen his upper limit. That being said, you can't just automatically place him above Franklin's power level. No feats to prove it means no deal.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. Basically you are saying any interpretation on what is shown counts but the not the guy who wrote it. His words are law pertaining to his own work.

False, you are wrong. Quit thinking about specific writers and focus on the greater truth. The writer matters per his own work otherwise dummies are free to misinterpret and troll all day long. I do not like people who troll.

So says the dummy that has argued that Thanos beats Void/Sentry via mindrape, but also argues that a being with the combined psionic power of Franklin, Nate, and Xavier cant...

laughing out loud

Happy Dance

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Stoic
Doubtful, but I wouldn't place him far below. The problem with trying to gauge Sentry's full power is that we've never seen his upper limit. That being said, you can't just automatically place him above Franklin's power level. No feats to prove it means no deal.

thumb up

RealityWarper
Originally posted by Stoic
Doubtful, but I wouldn't place him far below. The problem with trying to gauge Sentry's full power is that we've never seen his upper limit.

You will never see Sentry's upper limit because he has none.




I've already quoted his feats.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So says the dummy that has argued that Thanos beats Void/Sentry via mindrape, but also argues that a being with the combined psionic power of Franklin, Nate, and Xavier cant...

laughing out loud

Happy Dance Thanos wins for other reasons. Onslaught loses to the Void. Badly. Onslaught wasn't impressive at all when compared to these beings.

psycho gundam
I could be wrong here but I think people are arguing for Onslaught based on the sum of his parts and not the actual character. IIRC Franklin created the Heroes reborn universe but Onslaught created a second sun, not a small feat with any stretch of the imagination but simply not equal to the former's. Franklin's power wasn't really that much of a part of Onslaught's in my recollection of events

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. Basically you are saying any interpretation on what is shown counts but the not the guy who wrote it. His words are law pertaining to his own work.

False, you are wrong. Quit thinking about specific writers and focus on the greater truth. The writer matters per his own work otherwise dummies are free to misinterpret and troll all day long. I do not like people who troll. wrong again, read the forum rules ffs.

laughing out loud just a load of nonsense again and the irony is you're the biggest proven troll on kmc.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
wrong again, read the forum rules ffs.

laughing out loud just a load of nonsense again and the irony is you're the biggest proven troll on kmc. I am right and we see other posters chime in when someone such as yourself incorrectly interprets the source material. If you aren't bright enough to process the evidence then the writer will be brought in to stop the trolling. Quit with the personal attacks and stay on task, lord boo.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am right and we see other posters chime in when someone such as yourself incorrectly interprets the source material. If you aren't bright enough to process the evidence then the writer will be brought in to stop the trolling. Quit with the personal attacks and stay on task, lord boo. haha you're using reality warper as your back up laughing out loud fact, writers opinions are not proof.

Shut up the creepy little coward.

zopzop
Originally posted by psycho gundam
I could be wrong here but I think people are arguing for Onslaught based on the sum of his parts and not the actual character. IIRC Franklin created the Heroes reborn universe but Onslaught created a second sun, not a small feat with any stretch of the imagination but simply not equal to the former's. Franklin's power wasn't really that much of a part of Onslaught's in my recollection of events
thumb up
You summed it up better than I could.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha you're using reality warper as your back up laughing out loud fact, writers opinions are not proof.

Shut up the creepy little coward. Quit bringing up other posters it doesn't change the fact posters use writers to support the true interpretation for other posters who don't grasp the material.

Concession accepted.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit bringing up other posters it doesn't change the fact posters use writers to support the true interpretation for other posters who don't grasp the material.

Concession accepted.

You summed it better than I could. thumb up

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit bringing up other posters it doesn't change the fact posters use writers to support the true interpretation for other posters who don't grasp the material.

Concession accepted. lol 2 laughing stocks backing each other up doesn't make it right, learn the rules you utter moron.

Running off crying again eh creep.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
lol 2 laughing stocks backing each other up doesn't make it right, learn the rules you utter moron.

Running off crying again eh creep. Galan the other day brought up a writer. Learn to comprehend the rules, Nomak.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galan the other day brought up a writer. Learn to comprehend the rules, Nomak.

He don't understand that writers and authors speaking about their own works is accepted by the forum rules ? Really ?

Wow !

quanchi112
Originally posted by RealityWarper
He don't understand that writers and authors speaking about their own works is accepted by the forum rules ? Really ?

Wow ! Whats worse is based off his logic one can form their own interpretations no matter how biased and doesn't have to be held accountable by the writer.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by quanchi112
Whats worse is based off his logic one can form their own interpretations no matter how biased and doesn't have to be held accountable by the writer.

By this logic anyone can argue everything they want with baseless unsupported claims despite the writer opinion about his own story...

Outch !

quanchi112
Originally posted by RealityWarper
By this logic anyone can argue everything they want with baseless unsupported claims despite the writer opinion about his own story...

Outch ! thumb up

CatL18
Peak Onslaught = Onslaught with the power of Franklin Richards?
If so, Onslaught will win.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
Galan the other day brought up a writer. Learn to comprehend the rules, Nomak. big deal dome one else brought, still doesn't make it valid in a vs match.

Keep running tho creepy stalker guy.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
big deal dome one else brought, still doesn't make it valid in a vs match.

Keep running tho creepy stalker guy.

"Big deal dome one else brought,"-- I need a translator.


So I responded and you claimed i ran. Words have meanings and writers tell the story. Their word on their work matters not yours, dome one else brought.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
"Big deal dome one else brought,"-- I need a translator.


So I responded and you claimed i ran. Words have meanings and writers tell the story. Their word on their work matters not yours, dome one else brought. you know what it meant. Mods have told posters countless times it doesn't count regardless, learn the rules troll.

You always back down with the "stay on topic" or "concession accepted" stance with the truth is told about you.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
you know what it meant. Mods have told posters countless times it doesn't count regardless, learn the rules troll.

You always back down with the "stay on topic" or "concession accepted" stance with the truth is told about you. Their opinions on versus matches sure. Their opinions as to their own work so people can't misinterpret such as yourself. Basically you want to be able to say whatever nonsense you want. Not on my watch. Kmc is my forum.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
Their opinions on versus matches sure. Their opinions as to their own work so people can't misinterpret such as yourself. Basically you want to be able to say whatever nonsense you want. Not on my watch. Kmc is my forum. on anything as stated by the mods. Irony from the troll that other trolls look up to.

Hahahahaha shut up the skinny little dweeb, you're a nobody.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by quanchi112
Their opinions on versus matches sure. Their opinions as to their own work so people can't misinterpret such as yourself. Basically you want to be able to say whatever nonsense you want. Not on my watch. Kmc is my forum.

100 % approved. thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
on anything as stated by the mods. Irony from the troll that other trolls look up to.

Hahahahaha shut up the skinny little dweeb, you're a nobody.

Again the only one trolling is you. You basically say the writer doesn't matter and anyone can say anything ridiculous and misinterpret the comics to support your fanboyism.

Stick to the debate.

laughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by RealityWarper
100 % approved. thumb up Thank you kind sir.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again the only one trolling is you. You basically say the writer doesn't matter and anyone can say anything ridiculous and misinterpret the comics to support your fanboyism.

Stick to the debate.

laughing out loud fact is you're wrong and can't handle it. Bada just confirmed this in another Sentry thread, interview can't be used end of story.

I win again troll, stalk more.

RealityWarper
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thank you kind sir.

It's normal. stick out tongue

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thank you kind sir.

But how would Thanos destroy DS Sentry?

RealityWarper
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But how would Thanos destroy DS Sentry?

How is he supposed to do that exactly ?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by RealityWarper
How is he supposed to do that exactly ?

That's my question.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Insane Titan
fact is you're wrong and can't handle it. Bada just confirmed this in another Sentry thread, interview can't be used end of story.

I win again troll, stalk more. The evidence is still supported by the comic itself. He only died when he allowed it. Evidence matters.

Replying on a public message board isn't stalking. I suggest looking up the definition.

quanchi112
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But how would Thanos destroy DS Sentry? This is off topic as Thanos isn't involved in this thread.

Insane Titan
Originally posted by quanchi112
The evidence is still supported by the comic itself. He only died when he allowed it. Evidence matters.

Replying on a public message board isn't stalking. I suggest looking up the definition. all debunked by mods , cry more.

Stalking through google laughing out loud pathetic.

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