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So, the other thread was about the villains who were portrayed as truly terrible individuals. Now, this is the thread to list the worst/dumbest/most pathetic/most poorly portrayed villains you can think of. Maybe the actor phoned it in, maybe the portrayal was way off, or maybe there was some other element that just made them bad. Either way, list your worst.

Jesse Eisenberg Lex Luthor.

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Dominic West, Jigsaw from Punisher: War Zone.

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Kylo Ren

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Khan-Star Trek: into Darkness

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Kylo Ren

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Originally posted by Insane Titan
Khan-Star Trek: into Darkness

We need to prepare for quan's wrath.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
We need to prepare for quan's wrath. who?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
who?

Hilarious delusions of grandeur for his Star Trek/Wars fanboyhood... Doesn't sound familiar?

Add the entire cast of Suicide Squad sans Flag and Katana (since they technically aren't villains but might as well have been for being so underwhelming). They were supposed to be "the bad guys" and weren't at all.

Extra points to Killer Croc for wanting BET.

I'll second Kylo.

One of the many reasons TFA failed me.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
We need to prepare for quan's wrath.
As a board villain, Quan would qualify for this list.

Originally posted by riv6672
As a board villain, Quan would qualify for this list. THE board villain.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
THE board villain.
Shitty edition, yes!

Eddie Redmayne from Jupiter Ascending.

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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Jesse Eisenberg Lex Luthor.

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This right here, it's like Synder and Eisenberg got together and mashed out how they could do the worst possible Lex Luthor. To their credit, they achieved just that.

Originally posted by riv6672
Shitty edition, yes! Nah, just THE board villain.

Warriors of Virtue's Komodo:



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Originally posted by Robtard
This right here, it's like Synder and Eisenberg got together and mashed out how they could do the worst possible Lex Luthor. To their credit, they achieved just that. This.

Glad to see he was mentioned so early and so many people agree. It still bothers me that, to date, the best on screen versions of Lex Luthor are from tv shows. Really, take inspiration from Smallville and the old school DCAU shows, and Lex would be GOAT.

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Lex was also great in the Lois & Clark show, but yeah.

Anywho,

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Both of NuDoctor Who's take on "The Master".

The only time I can recall audibly cringing in at a movie villain is when EisenLex did his "The red capes are coming" bit. Uggghhhhhgghh, that was so horrible.

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Yeah, EisenLex was NOT good. He also had a habit of making just really weird sound effects:

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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
zack snyder

Jigsaw from War Zone really was horrendous, as if the film wasn't bad enough without Doms terrible performance. I also find Captain Cold from Flash/Arrow verse very cheesey, to the point where he occasionally breaks the suspension of disbelief for me with how bad his acting is.

Doomsday and Lex both recieve honourable mentions for almost completely ruining BvS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, just THE board villain.
Sure thing, Dark Helmet.

Originally posted by riv6672
Sure thing, Dark Helmet.



Lord Helmet, I think it is.

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This...

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...makes me feel very conflicted.

Pretty sure quanch doesn't look like that.

Quan who?

Hit da Quan?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Pretty sure quanch doesn't look like that. Quit being weird, Riddick guy.

Kylo Ren was pretty much the only good thing from TFA.

EisenLex is a good choice though, yeah.

Originally posted by riv6672
Sure thing, Dark Helmet. Riv, you are still seeking to be relevant after all this time. I doubt you'll ever achieve if but dare to dream.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kylo Ren was pretty much the only good thing from TFA.

EisenLex is a good choice though, yeah. Snoke was amazing. Both villains from TFA are fantastic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Riv, you are still seeking to be relevant after all this time. I doubt you'll ever achieve if but dare to dream.
The great part is, as many posters here, and at HC, who routinely bring up my relevance (when i've never referred to myself as such), and know who i am and how long i've posted, and at which sites (most now defunct, sadly), makes me exactly what they claim i'm not.

Now comb the desert!

Krennic from Rogue one.
He was lame, got treated like a b*tch then owned by his own weapon.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Krennic from Rogue one.
He was lame, got treated like a b*tch then owned by his own weapon.

Yeah...the very same guy Quan loves at the moment.

^^^Ah, Quan.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Yeah...the very same guy Quan loves at the moment. it's not surprising though is it. He thinks he's some sort of villain but always end up humiliated.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Both of NuDoctor Who's take on "The Master".

Pshh, the girl version was stupid, but this version was awesome:

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Plus this part:

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Spoiler alert: those little balls of destruction are just the brains of humans from billions of years in the future.

Originally posted by Surtur
Pshh, the girl version was stupid, but this version was awesome:

ptRxrH1rVK8 I love that video.

You two are so so......SAD.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kylo Ren was pretty much the only good thing from TFA.

EisenLex is a good choice though, yeah.
You didn't actually watch the movie, eh? He was an emo drama queen.

I'm sure Snoke will sort Kyle out.

I had trouble taking him seriously, considering he literally threw tantrums at multiple points in the film. Reminded me too much of prequel Anakin nonsense.

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I personally found Snoke much more interesting, limited screen time and all.

Michael Sheen's Aro from the Twilight nonsense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Snoke was amazing. Both villains from TFA are fantastic. Snoke was okay. He seems to actually have an interest in Kylo Ren's well-being, which is sufficient enough to differentiate him from Palpatine (who casually discarded apprentices and even arranged for their deaths) and make him interesting, but I will have to see more from him.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
You didn't actually watch the movie, eh? He was an emo drama queen. Which made him far more interesting than any other character in the film. Rey was incredibly boring, Finn had real potential but was so poorly-handled the character is probably too far-gone to be made interesting, Poe was okay but barely present, and... I can't name any of the other characters but Snoke.

Kylo Ren is an in-universe Vader fanboy who has an established link to the original trilogy (being Han's son), which helps establish continuity and mythos, had a very atypical presentation (everyone else wants to be on the Light Side but struggles with their Dark Side, Kylo Ren wants to be on the Dark Side but struggles with his Light Side), is obviously immature and petulant, but also unstable, which makes him legitimately threatening (Rey beating him after he was heavily wounded does little to downplay this, though Rey using her mary sue powers to overpower his telepathy kind of does). He was shipped as being the successor to Vader, but the writers made this exactly what he intended to be, and then subverted it with his characterization to make him outwardly different than Vader, and then gave the character a dose of clever irony because, unknown to Kylo Ren, his idol was just as conflicted and emo as he was.

He's the best villain in the new movies, and easily the best character. At least so far.

He's the best whiny teen since Anakin, and more annoying in certain ways. His tantrums are pathetic, and they do nothing to add depth to his character. It's funny that so many people laughed at the way Anakin was portrayed in the prequels yet so many want to give Ren a pass when his characterization is just as garbage.

Calling him the best character really isn't saying much. They did such a bad job of making anyone interesting and non-generic that it isn't really hard to take that title.

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Originally posted by Ascendancy
He's the best whiny teen since Anakin, and more annoying in certain ways. His tantrums are pathetic, and they do nothing to add depth to his character. It's funny that so many people laughed at the way Anakin was portrayed in the prequels yet so many want to give Ren a pass when his characterization is just as garbage.

Calling him the best character really isn't saying much. They did such a bad job of making anyone interesting and non-generic that it isn't really hard to take that title. You are the same guy who thinks Maul is in AOTC. This is opinion based so quit throwing an emo fit everytime someone likes Kylo. He's better than Vader. He will also greatly improve so prepare to eat your own words.

The manner in which Anakin threw fits is a lot different and more feminine when compared to Ben's testosterone fueled rants.

Originally posted by jaden101
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The concept of a Bizarro-type villain going against Reeves in his final Superman film could've been great, but, man, did it turn out to stink.

I'm a big Bond fan, so it makes me cringe at what could've been with Christoph Waltz as Blofeld in Spectre, but that was mishandled big time.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
He's the best whiny teen since Anakin,

Ren is thirty actually.



This is what's known as a subjective b!tch-nigga criticism. It's a vague buzzword.



Right, and seemingly (which is more important than author intent btw) intentionally so.



Another subjective b!tch-nigga criticism. Also plainly wrong.

Do his tantrums add something else to his character? Yes they do, they show us that he is very easily angered, immature, and impulsive. It emphasizes his manchild traits, and actually might have established them, since IIRC we didn't see much of his personality before, where he was portrayed as more of an aloof Vader-esque figure.



People laughed at the way Anakin was portrayed in the prequels because he was poorly-acted and had to recite horrible dialogue, and was part of an incredibly cheesy romance subplot. Anakin's character conceptually was fine, but the execution was just very poor.

Kylo Ren by contrast is much better acted and isn't hamstrung by Lucas' shitty dialogue.



This much is true. Ren is by far the best character in the film, though he isn't by any means one of my favorite villains. Though neither is any other Star Wars character.

Robert De Niro as the Fearless Leader in the movie The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle.