Count Dooku and Mace Windu vs Darth Malak and Revan Reborn

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nfactor1995
ROTS Dooku and Mace take on Star Forge amped Darth Malak and Revan Reborn (as of the Revan novel).

Standard gear and abilities and this is an all-out fight to the death. Battle takes place on neutral ground.

Who wins and why?

MythLord

DarthAnt66
I think this could go either way.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I think this could go either way.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I think this could go either way.
This. If anything, a slight edge to Team PT.

Azronger
Malak gets absolutely destroyed. Revan then gets dogpiled but puts up a good fight.

Freedon Nadd
So, Vaapad is a Kryptonite against darksiders? Does Windu win because he is a Shatterpointer too, everytime?

Freedon Nadd
And why is this notion that the Star Forge amplifies your Force connections? In fact, it feeds on the dark side energies of whoever uses the Star Forge. Even the Rakata Terminal states that.
So, when Malak fought Revan on the Star Forge; he was actually with lower Force reserves(given that the Star Forge feeds on its wielder's dark side connections)
Malak was actively sacrificing his reserves of dark side energy to power-up the Star Forge and creating droids.
So, Malak was not even at full power on the Star Forge when he lost to Revan. And he didn't amplify himself by leeching those Jedi's life-force off of their bodies. He was simply using Force drain to heal himself.

Freedon Nadd
Darth Malak and Revan Reborn take this.

chingchangwalla
Team 2 takes Force, Team 1 takes Sabers and all-out

NewGuy01
1.

Raptor22
Team 1

hutchy1345
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
And why is this notion that the Star Forge amplifies your Force connections? In fact, it feeds on the dark side energies of whoever uses the Star Forge. Even the Rakata Terminal states that.
So, when Malak fought Revan on the Star Forge; he was actually with lower Force reserves(given that the Star Forge feeds on its wielder's dark side connections)
Malak was actively sacrificing his reserves of dark side energy to power-up the Star Forge and creating droids.
So, Malak was not even at full power on the Star Forge when he lost to Revan. And he didn't amplify himself by leeching those Jedi's life-force off of their bodies. He was simply using Force drain to heal himself.

So how powerful are you saying malak truly is?

McP
Malak is out of his league. Mace and Dooku take this.

paullx
I think this could go either way.

EmperorSidious2
Originally posted by Ursumeles
This. If anything, a slight edge to Team PT.

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by hutchy1345
So how powerful are you saying malak truly is?
He has been compared to likes of Exar Kun, Darth Bane, Darth Sidious, Darth Vader, and Darth Krayt.
So, I imagine that he is able to contend with Dooku and Windu. Unless you want to say that being a Shatterpointer and a Vaapad practitioner--makes you a kryptonite. Which I highly doubt of that.

UCanShootMyNova
Lmao. Are you referencing the quote that named some of the most powerful human Force sensitives? With the obvious gap between someone like Bane and Sidious? :P

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Team 2.

S_W_LeGenD
Team 2

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Lmao. Are you referencing the quote that named some of the most powerful human Force sensitives? With the obvious gap between someone like Bane and Sidiousj? :P
Based on what you say it's a gap?
And it's not Dark Empire Darth Sidious. I think it's movie Darth Sidious.
The source precisely makes reference to their Force strength. Not some ambiguous accolades. It could mean that the Sidious myth(had begun) to lose its greatness. Sadly, there will be no new stories except the SWTOR games.

UCanShootMyNova
The fact that every generation within the Banite line was confirmed to have been more powerful then the last...

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The fact that every generation within the Banite line was confirmed to have been more powerful then the last...
Which could be debated. And it refers to general dark side knowledge. Not Force-sensitivity(Force strength)
power=knowledge

UCanShootMyNova
It's not really debatable when we know for a fact that they lost a great deal of their knowledge several times throughout the Order's history ( most notably the Gravid incident ) yet were still confirmed to have become more powerful with each generation.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
It's not really debatable when we know for a fact that they lost a great deal of their knowledge several times throughout the Order's history ( most notably the Gravid incident ) yet were still confirmed to have become more powerful with each generation.

wrong, quotes dont mean anything if they contradict opinions

UCanShootMyNova
Fair enough.

nfactor1995
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
And why is this notion that the Star Forge amplifies your Force connections? In fact, it feeds on the dark side energies of whoever uses the Star Forge. Even the Rakata Terminal states that.
So, when Malak fought Revan on the Star Forge; he was actually with lower Force reserves(given that the Star Forge feeds on its wielder's dark side connections)
Malak was actively sacrificing his reserves of dark side energy to power-up the Star Forge and creating droids.
So, Malak was not even at full power on the Star Forge when he lost to Revan. And he didn't amplify himself by leeching those Jedi's life-force off of their bodies. He was simply using Force drain to heal himself.

Then why was Bastila claiming to be so much more powerful while on the Star Forge? And was able to keep regenerating her health and stating that the Star Forge was feeding her power?

carthage
Team 2

Either should make short work of Malak

Freedon Nadd
Originally posted by nfactor1995
Then why was Bastila claiming to be so much more powerful while on the Star Forge? And was able to keep regenerating her health and stating that the Star Forge was feeding her power?
1. Because she was a crazed babe 'cause of the Star Forge's influence.
2. Because it was healing her. She meant as 'more powerful' to the Star Forge healing her. Even the Rakata Terminal affirms that. That's why the Rakata went mad.
Even Darth Revan never used the Star Forge at 'maximum potential' and left it alone. He didn't want to end like Darth Malak.

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