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Is he still Revan+ or sub-Revan? Discuss.

Apparently, sub-Exar Kun.

He's sub-Exar even with the nexus.

Stronger than any Sith in history.

Nexus or not, gains from Nathema ritual are in the picture.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Stronger than any Sith in history.

Nexus or not, gains from Nathema ritual are in the picture.

Care to attempt to quantify the increase from the ritual?

Your own quote says Vitiate's influence is stronger on dark side nexi

Nice way to debunk yourself, lol.

Temp, thoughts on Vitiate's strength outside nexi?

Originally posted by Azronger
Temp, thoughts on Vitiate's strength outside nexi?

I think if Novel!Revan and Novel!Vitiate had been fighting on "neutral" ground, Revan would have stood a healthy chance of beating him outright, if not by equal or greater power then by superior skill.

I'd say I agree.

Sub-Dooku

Originally posted by Azronger
Your own quote says Vitiate's influence is stronger on dark side nexi

Nice way to debunk yourself, lol.
You have comprehension problems?

Revelation is that Vitiate's influence over his subjects (i.e. Imperial Guard) is strongest in a location that is strong in the Dark Side. That is why he chose such locations as training grounds for Imperial Guard. This influence refers to strength of bonding between Vitiate and Imperial Guard. Darth Nyriss remarked that Imperial Guard won't betray Vitiate on Dromund Kaas for example.

Originally posted by Azronger
Care to attempt to quantify the increase from the ritual?
See Valkorion respect thread.

Blatantly stronger than Revan or Kun.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revelation is that Vitiate's influence over his subjects (i.e. Imperial Guard) is strongest in a location that is strong in the Dark Side.

Yes, his influence is strongest in such locations because he's amped, lmao.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Blatantly stronger than Revan or Kun.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Blatantly stronger than Revan or Kun.

?

A bit below Revan.

So much for AP's argument that he is the DK nexus.

Kun was amped on Yavin 4 too, though.

Sure; not on Ossus. But Abeloth and the Pool of Knowledge were darker.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
EVURY1 FROM TOR ERA IS SHIT except 4 Valkorion.

Here's the thing - Kun's quote, even if taken to apply to Vitiate, would not account for the nexus. So on the nexus, Vitiate could still be more powerful.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Here's the thing - Kun's quote, even if taken to apply to Vitiate, would not account for the nexus. So on the nexus, Vitiate could still be more powerful.

Vitiate spends most of his time on Dromund Kaas, so I'd wager Kun's quote applies to him.

Originally posted by Azronger
I'd wager
lmfao

Originally posted by Azronger
Vitiate spends most of his time on Dromund Kaas, so I'd wager Kun's quote applies to him.

No, quotes never apply over circumstantial factors such as a nexus.

Originally posted by SunRazer
No, quotes never apply over circumstantial factors such as a nexus.

If Kun is stated to be the darkest power in the galaxy, then that would include nexus-amped beings as well, so long as they reside in the galaxy.

No, because the nexus and the character are different powers. So Kun's quote cannot apply to both, only one.

Originally posted by SunRazer
No, because the nexus and the character are different powers. So Kun's quote cannot apply to both, only one.

Yes, but the character amped by the nexus is a singular entity, so it applies

But they're different powers, which is the point in question. Kun may be a greater power than Vitiate alone, but Vitiate on the nexus is a different story. Such a quote can only refer to a single source of power, not multiple.

Originally posted by SunRazer
But they're different powers, which is the point in question. Kun may be a greater power than Vitiate alone, but Vitiate on the nexus is a different story. Such a quote can only refer to a single source of power, not multiple.

Eh, I guess that's a fair interpretation, although I'd personally treat Vitiate as a singular being whether his power is amplified or not.

It's not confirmed that Vitiate is more powerful than Kun on the nexus, but the possibility for argument is definitely there.

By SWTOR, he's factually more powerful than Kun off-nexus, though.

That doesn't contradict anything given here.

lmfao

Where is this from, LeG? I would appreciate a source

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Sub-Dooku

Originally posted by Azronger
Where is this from, LeG? I would appreciate a source

I found it: it's from the Imperial Guard Academy codex entry. Vitiate sucks even more than I thought

Originally posted by Geistalt
So much for AP's argument that he is the DK nexus.

Kun was amped on Yavin 4 too, though.

Sure; not on Ossus. But Abeloth and the Pool of Knowledge were darker.

Everyone on a dark side nexus.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I think if Novel!Revan and Novel!Vitiate had been fighting on "neutral" ground, Revan would have stood a healthy chance of beating him outright, if not by equal or greater power then by superior skill.
Could you elaborate?