General Rankings 2017

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Fated Xtasy
Soo. I'm bored and curious about the current state of the forum and its general consensus.

So I'm assuming the top five are likely

Vitiate/Sheev
Vitiate/Sheev
Krayt(?)
Caedus(?)
Vader(?)

I feel as though Caedus, Krayt and Vader have a Rock, Paper, Scissors dynamic if y'all know what I mean.

Any who, the other 5 slots are usually murky. We have Plagueis with his unquantified mastery of the Force and ability to manipulate midi-chlorians, who could very well take slot 3 through 5 if I'm honest, but lets place him at number 6 for arguments sake. Then we have Kun, Malgus, Bane, Zannah and Tyranus who all have potential to be in the top ten or even top fifteen but things get complicated here because of circumstances, conflicting quotes, and egos.

So what are y'all's list?

SunRazer
Another Sith list, huh? You should specify that in the title or the OP at least.

How on earth is Vader above Plagueis? Even for "argument's sake", I'm not seeing how it could be questioned that he's stronger than Vader.

Kun and Tenebrous are the big ones that haven't been mentioned, although they're not universally championed either. After that, there tends to be some deviation. Qel-Droma's relatively close to Kun, so he should also be mentioned.

Nihilus is a bit of a wildcard but deserves mention, definitely.

Beniboybling
Sidious
Plagueis
Tenebrous


















Ahsoka
Emperor Vitiate.

Ursumeles
Sidious
--
Plagueis
Vitiate
--
Tenebrous
Nihilus
--
Krayt
Caedus / Kun
Vader

Azronger
Just my humble opinion:

1. Sidious
2. The gap between him and everyone else
3. Plagueis
4. Tenebrous
5. Tenebrous' Master
6. Valkorion
7. Nihilus
8. Kun
9. Krayt
10. Qel-Droma

Honorable mentions: Nadd, Wyyrlok III, Vader, Tyranus, Muur, Caedus, some late Banites

Emperordmb
"The gap between him and everyone else"? Jesus.

Beniboybling
Kek. smile

Tondemonai
1 de Sheev
2 ROTJ Sheev
3 Ziost Viti
4 rots Sheev
5 Novel Viti
6 tpm Sheev/Plagueis
7 52 BBY Plagueis
8 Krayt reborn
9 Caedus
10 canon Vader I guess?

cs_zoltan
Inspired by Tond's list, top 10 sith:

1. DE Sidious
2. RotJ Sidious
3. ESB Sidious
4. 2 ABY Sidious
5. 1 ABY Sidious
6. ANH Sidious
7. TFU II Sidious
8. TFU Sidious
9. 4 BBY Sidious
10. 5 BBY Sidious

NewGuy01
Part of the issue with these sorts of things is the unknown variables. For example, I'm fairly certain that at least a third of a proper top 10 Sith list would be compromised of lesser-known Sith from Bane's lineage like Darth Ramage or Darth Tenebrous, but it's hard to say where they'd fit in because we know so little about them. Of course, this also applies to folks like Ajunta Pall, Tulak Hord, Marka Ragnos, etc.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Sidious
Knight fall Anakin


Plaguers
Tenebrous

















Vader
Ahsoka
Kun
Baas
Ulic
Pod Bane
Emperor Vitiate/Shaak Ti.

Rebel95
Sidious
Knightfall Vader
Plagueis
Valkorion
Nihilus
Tenebrous
Krayt
Vader/Caedus/Kun

Something like that

hutchy1345
Originally posted by Rebel95
Sidious
Knightfall Vader
Plagueis
Valkorion
Nihilus
Tenebrous
Krayt
Vader/Caedus/Kun

Something like that

Knightfall vader is not that high

Azronger
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Knightfall vader is not that high

He is, tbh. And I forgot about him. Damn.

S_W_LeGenD
SITH:-

01. Palpatine (DE)
02. Sith Emperor
03. Darth Nihilus
04. Darth Plagueis
05. Exar Kun
06. Darth Malgus

JEDI:-

01. Luke Skywalker
02. Yoda
03. Revan (Reborn)
04. Hero of Tython
05. Barsen'thor III
06. Mace Windu

SWTOR:-

01. Valkorion
02. The Outlander
03. Vaylin
04. Revan (SoR)
05. Darth Malgus
06. Arcann

GENERAL:-

01. Valkorion
02. Palpatine (DE)
03. Luke Skywalker
04. The Outlander
05. Vaylin
06. Darth Nihilus
07. Revan (SoR)
08. Yoda
09. Darth Plagueis
10. Exar Kun
11. Darth Malgus
12. Darth Krayt

Rebel95
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Knightfall vader is not that high
Yeah he is. He casually took out Drallig with one hand in less than 3 strikes while fighting several other Jedi. That's Sidious level shit

hutchy1345
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
SITH:-

01. Palpatine (DE)
02. Sith Emperor
03. Darth Nihilus
04. Darth Plagueis
05. Exar Kun
06. Darth Malgus

JEDI:-

01. Luke Skywalker
02. Yoda
03. Revan (Reborn)
04. Hero of Tython
05. Barsen'thor III
06. Mace Windu

SWTOR:-

01. Valkorion
02. The Outlander
03. Vaylin
04. Revan (SoR)
05. Darth Malgus
06. Arcann

GENERAL:-

01. Valkorion
02. Palpatine (DE)
03. Luke Skywalker
04. The Outlander
05. Vaylin
06. Darth Nihilus
07. Revan (SoR)
08. Yoda
09. Darth Plagueis
10. Exar Kun
11. Darth Malgus
12. Darth Krayt


What even is that overall list?

Wrong is the answer

hutchy1345
Originally posted by Rebel95
Yeah he is. He casually took out Drallig with one hand in less than 3 strikes while fighting several other Jedi. That's Sidious level shit

Defeating a plo koon level opponent while fighting below average jedi (weren't they padawans) is not sidious level
Not even close

Rebel95
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Defeating a plo koon level opponent while fighting below average jedi (weren't they padawans) is not sidious level
Not even close
Doing it with one hand in like 2 seconds is lmao

Rebel95
Also George Lucas said that after his injuries he was no longer "as powerful as Sidious"

carthage
Exar's done nothing in terms of a feats comparison placing him above Vader

Ursumeles
Originally posted by Rebel95
Doing it with one hand in like 2 seconds is lmao
No it isn't lmfao.
Things like raping Dooku put him up there, kek.

Rebel95
How is taking out a jedi master that easily not? But yeah that too

Ursumeles
****ing Savage stomps master lmfao

Rebel95
When has savage killed a master of Drallig's caliber in less than 2 seconds?

Trocity
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD


GENERAL:-

01. Valkorion
02. Palpatine (DE)
03. Luke Skywalker
04. The Outlander
05. Vaylin
06. Darth Nihilus
07. Revan (SoR)
08. Yoda
09. Darth Plagueis
10. Exar Kun
11. Darth Malgus
12. Darth Krayt

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DON-DRAPER-PUKES.gif

cs_zoltan
Originally posted by Ursumeles
****ing Savage stomps master lmfao http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/bobby-dnw.gif

ares834
Uh, we see him stomp a Jedi Master in seconds...

cs_zoltan
Yes, but that's like comparing the B Team stomped by Sidious to the morgukai warriors stomped by Aayla.

He made a retarded comparison, that's why the gif, not because what he said is false.

Beniboybling
savage stomps master

MythLord
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Sidious
--
Plagueis
Vitiate
--
Tenebrous
Nihilus
Krayt
Caedus
Vader

Something like this, I'd imagine.

Azronger
I guess my Jedi list would be:

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Anakin Skywalker
4. Mace Windu
5/6. Ulic Qel-Droma/Revan reborn
7. Jedi Dooku

Honorable mentions: Jacen Solo, Jaina Solo, Kyp Durron, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Outlander

Overall:

1. The Father
2. Abeloth
3/4. The Son/The Daughter
5/6/7/8. The Bedlam Spirits
9. Waru
10/11. Zonama Sekot/Yuuzhan'tar
12. Some other weird entities/whatever I missed
13. Sarasu Taalon
14. Luke Skywalker
15. Lord Nyax
16. Darth Sidious
17. Yoda
18. Anakin Skywalker
19. Unu'Thul
20. Darth Plagueis
21. Darth Tenebrous
22. Darth Tenebrous' Master
23. Valkorion
24. Darth Nihilus
25. Exar Kun

DarthAnt66
thats just outright disgusting ^

Beniboybling
agreed, valkorion should be lower.

AncientPower
Over-all:

1.Valkorion/Sidious
2.Sidious/Valkorion
3.Luke Skywalker
4.Yoda.
5.Exar Kun/Plagueis/Revan.
6.Revan/Exar Kun/Plagueis.
7.Plagueis/Revan/Exar Kun.
8.Tenebrous.
9.Ulic Qel-Droma.
10.Freedon Nadd.

Sith:
1.DE Sidious.
2.Sith Emperor Vitiate.
3.Darth Plagueis/Exar Kun.
4.Exar Kun/Darth Plagueis.
5.Darth Tenebrous.
6.Ulic Qel-Droma.
7.Freedon Nadd.
8.Krayt Reborn/Marka Ragnos.
9.Marka Ragnos/Krayt Reborn.
10.Karness Muur.

Jedi list:
1.Luke Skywalker.
2.Yoda.
3.The Outlander.
4.Revan Reborn.
5.Jacen Solo.
6.Kyp Durron.
7.Mace Windu.
8.Meetra Surik.
9.Barsen'thor.
10.Jaina Solo.

Rockydonovang
Lotf Jaina is at a minimum=kyp. And that's assuming Luke's exempted from his statement even though he refers to himself as a Jedi master.

NewGuy01
Ulic > Knightfall Vader and Apocalypse Krayt? What kind of cancer is that? Also, everybody be forgettin' my boy Sarasu Taalon.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Top Ten Sith:
1. Darth Sidious
2. Darth Plagueis
3. The Sith Emperor
4. Darth Caedus
5. Dath Bane
6. Darth Krayt
7. Exar Kun
8. Darth Vader
9. Darth Malgus
10. Emperor's Wrath

Well, here's my list from 2013. ^

I'm not sure about my 2017 list, though.

There's like a dozen Sith roughly even on my list.

DarthAnt66
Ajunta Pall
Tulak Hord
Marka Ragnos
Freedon Nadd
Exar Kun
Ulic Qel-Droma
Darth Revan
Darth Nihilus
Darth Malgus
Emperor Vitiate
Darth Tenebrous
Darth Plagueis
Darth Sidious
Darth Tyranus
Darth Vader
Darth Caedus
Sarasu Taalon
Darth Krayt

Here's a list of all the Sith I think you could make a case for being in some spot in the top ten. ^

(I'm ignoring all the Sith between Darth Zannah and Darth Tenebrous due to ambiguity).

NewGuy01
Yeah, cross off Darth Malgus, at least until his next appearance. He's fine for an honorable mention, but him actually making a top 10 spot over half the others you named should be pretty close to impossible. Ulic and Nadd too, for that matter.

Petrus
If this is a general list rather than a Sith list, Revan should be in most lists alongside people like Krayt, Caedus and Kunt, tbh.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by AncientPower
Sith:
2.Sith Emperor Vitiate.She's finally worked it out. eek!

Sinious
The placement of Arcann, in particular, surprises me in the forums. I wonder just how low do people consider Outlander (early KOTFE) to be?

Beniboybling
Fisto-level. eek!

Geistalt
Originally posted by Trocity
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
GENERAL:-

01. Valkorion
02. Palpatine (DE)
03. Luke Skywalker
04. The Outlander
05. Vaylin
06. Darth Nihilus
07. Revan (SoR)
08. Yoda
09. Darth Plagueis
10. Exar Kun
11. Darth Malgus
12. Darth Krayt http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DON-DRAPER-PUKES.gif

Geistalt
Especially "Outlander/Vaylin > Yoda"

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Geistalt
Especially "Outlander/Vaylin > Yoda"
laughing

AncientPower
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Ulic > Knightfall Vader and Apocalypse Krayt? What kind of cancer is that? Also, everybody be forgettin' my boy Sarasu Taalon.

I brainfarted about Annie, tbh.

Apoc!Krayt still really shouldn't be too far from Muur.

Ulic on the other hand is within Kun's range, who's so far beyond Muur it isn't really funny.

S_W_LeGenD
Some members need to catch-up with the developments in SWTOR.

The Outlander is above Revan (SoR) insofar. Vitiate strengthened his connection to the Force to the extent that he intended Outlander to be his next corporeal vessel after Valkorion. This was Vitiate's end-game all along.

Vaylin destroyed an entire region in Nathema with a mere thought from outerspace. She even remarked that the damage will be visible from outerspace. Imagine that.

Vaylin also conjured a Force Maelstrom so powerful in the heat of a battle that it swiftly floored Arcann, Senya and others and was ripping the entire setting apart. The Outlander was the only individual who could take that kind of power head-on and impaled Vaylin before it was too late. Again, both Outlander and Vaylin demonstrate power beyond Revan (SoR).

And

1. Outlander is (not) a JEDI.
2. Revan (SoR) is (not) a SITH.

S_W_LeGenD
My general ranking list is in accordance with latest developments in SWTOR.

Also, think about Darth Malgus. He not only survived that confrontation but also the utter annihilation of the space station out in the space. One wonders what would it take to kill him. Palpatine rightfully regarded him as one of his most powerful predecessors.

Also, Palpatine learned about Force Maelstrom from Darth Malgus, a technique he later enhanced to a Force Storm.

Rockydonovang
Sor revan<<Valk<Plagueis<EoTPM sidious<Yoda~Sidious just as a force user

S_W_LeGenD
^^^

Darth Plagueis's accolade is OOU and from a single source. Therefore, not gospel for Star Wars lore.

And Valkorion is not Sith.

SunRazer
It's in-universe.

And neither being OOU nor from a single source place restrictions on a quote's authority.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by SunRazer
It's in-universe.

And neither being OOU nor from a single source place restrictions on a quote's authority.
Any statement on the backcover is OOU.

OOU revelation from a source other than the author, is subjective. Specially, when consensus for it is lacking.

Beniboybling
How often do you plan to make these assertions before offering anything in the way of proof. laughing out loud

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Beniboybling
How often do you plan to make these assertions before offering anything in the way of proof. laughing out loud
The story is in-universe. The author is the narrator.

Any statement on the backcover of a book is from the publisher. Therefore, OOU.

SunRazer
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Any statement on the backcover is OOU.

OOU revelation from a source other than the author, is subjective. Specially, when consensus for it is lacking.

It's in-universe because it doesn't even know if Plagueis died or not. It's authority and knowledge stops at 32 BBY. It's clearly not written from somebody outside of the SW universe looking in, but a person within the SW universe offering commentary on its events.

Authors are also subjective, but you treat them as omniscient when they put paper to the pen and make OOU commentary. Or even IU commentary that isn't restricted to character thoughts.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The story is in-universe. The author is the narrator.

Any statement on the backcover of a book is from the publisher. Therefore, OOU. 1. In-universe has nothing to do with the person who wrote it but rather the way in which it's written, the Darth Plagueis blurb is written from the perspective of the universe being real, therefore it's in-universe. thumb up

2. Even if that weren't the case that doesn't make it subjective or invalid, you completely made that up! laughing out loud

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by SunRazer
It's in-universe because it doesn't even know if Plagueis died or not. It's authority and knowledge stops at 32 BBY. It's clearly not written from somebody outside of the SW universe looking in, but a person within the SW universe offering commentary on its events.

Authors are also subjective, but you treat them as omniscient when they put paper to the pen and make OOU commentary. Or even IU commentary that isn't restricted to character thoughts.
Are you kidding me?

A blurb is just a promotional piece of statement for a particular book or novel from the publisher. It is (not) a component of the in-universe story or lore.

From Merriam Webster: a short description that praises something (such as a book) so that people will want to buy it.

Additionally:

It's true enough that the entire blurb milieu is nepotistic and queasily promotional, a fat, slow–moving target for the various critical wags of our age. But it's equally true that blurbs are one of the few dependable ways publishers can draw attention to a particular book. Blurbs themselves might be hyperbolic, even suspect, but they are essentially a forum to champion literature and as such deserve something kinder than scorn.

Source: http://www.mobylives.com/Almond_blurbs.html

CASE CLOSED

Beniboybling
Another LeGenDary post, kek, it's great that your able to employ google search to find people capable of articulating for you but try some real sources for Christ sake. facepalm

S_W_LeGenD
^^^

I suppose you can do your own homework. Blurbs are hyperbolic marketing statements. Get over it.

Beniboybling
And also canon, get over it. eek!

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Beniboybling
And also canon, get over it. eek!
WRONG

Beniboybling
laughing

Ursumeles
Overall?

1. Sarasu Taalon
2. Luke Skywalker
3. Darth Sidious
4. Yoda
5. Amped! Nyax
6. Plagueis
7. Valkorion
8. UnuThul
9. Darth Tenebrous
10. Darth Nihilus
11./12. Darth Krayt / Darth Caedus
13. Exar Kun
14. Revan
15. Mace Windu

Excluding Anakin.

Ursumeles
Fugg
Forgot Vader. He's 13-15.

Rockydonovang
This list needs some jaina

UCanShootMyNova
"She remembered the surge of power she felt when Luke had aided her against her brother. Now, she felt that same power within herself. It was like a river; constant, waiting to be drawn upon." - Fate of the Jedi: Vortex.

SunRazer
thumb up

Geistalt
Force:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Valkorion / Yoda
4. Valkorion / Yoda
5. Darth Plagueis
6. Darth Krayt
7. Raynar Thul
8. Revan
9. Kyp Durron
10. Starkiller
11. Dark Apprentice
12. Darth Caedus
13. Knightfall Vader
14. Exar Kun
15. Gethzerion

Excluding Nihilus and Vaylin, 'cause ranking those chars anywhere is cancer.

Excluding Skywalkers and Banites:
1. Valkorion / Yoda
2. Valkorion / Yoda
3. Darth Krayt
4. Raynar Thul
5. Revan
6. Kyp Durron
7. Starkiller
8. Dark Apprentice
9. Exar Kun
10. Gethzerion

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"She remembered the surge of power she felt when Luke had aided her against her brother. Now, she felt that same power within herself. It was like a river; constant, waiting to be drawn upon." - Fate of the Jedi: Vortex.
What does this have to do with anything?
edit: oh crap just realized what that means

Geistalt
welp, Jaina > Caedus confirmed.

Rockydonovang
So in addition to luke musing she's a comabtive match for anyone on the order(where the wording of the quote suggests this might include luke), we have confirmation that jaina as of fotj jaina can replicate her performance while(an admittedly hindered caedus) while amped in lotf.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by Geistalt
welp, Jaina > Caedus confirmed.
Jaina being potrayed as luke level throughout lotf should have been suffecient imo.

The quote itself implies to a hindered caedus though

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
"She remembered the surge of power she felt when Luke had aided her against her brother. Now, she felt that same power within herself. It was like a river; constant, waiting to be drawn upon." - Fate of the Jedi: Vortex.
I couldn't find this anywhere in my search of the book. What chapter?

DarthAnt66
That quote is either fake or the source is wrong.

Rockydonovang
hey ant, when did luke rejoin the jedi order?

DarthAnt66
Ascension, I believe. I could be wrong though, I haven't read FOTJ in years.

DarthAnt66
Anyway, I'm throwing down money that the Vortex quote is fake, but Syn could have just posted the wrong source.

I assume he got it from Facebook though, so I don't hold him accountable if it is forged.

AncientPower
Knightfall Vader being that low is genuinely, mindboggingly, retarded. tbh.

Geistalt
Don't blame me; I'm just going off of the (non-predictive) novel blurb to appease the masses (and myself - so sure; blame me, anyways) by keeping him under Caedus.

AncientPower
Knightfall Vader > Darth Caedus > ROTJ Vader.

DarthAnt66
Most sources don't formally recognize Anakin as Vader until after Mustafar.

Caedus would get plowed over by Knightfall unless he brought all his esoteric powers to the front and avoided a direct battle via Force Fold, which we never seen him actually do. Even then Knightfall might still pull through.

Rockydonovang
post the blurb.
Knightfall anakin/yoda/sidious don't get any scaling off caedus, luke, jaina, or any future characters

Geistalt
Originally posted by Geistalt
Force:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Valkorion / Yoda
4. Valkorion / Yoda
5. Darth Plagueis
6. Darth Krayt
7. Raynar Thul
8. Revan
9. Kyp Durron
10. Starkiller
11. Dark Apprentice
12. Darth Caedus
13. Knightfall Vader
14. Exar Kun
15. Gethzerion

Excluding Nihilus and Vaylin, 'cause ranking those chars anywhere is cancer. They don't have feats that suggest they can disintegrate 200-meter frigates, though.

I mean, sure; Kun has that Hatred he used against the Sith Wyrm. But that was amped.

DarthAnt66
Who the hell is disintegrating 200-meter frigates?

AncientPower
1.It wasn't even the entire frigate, but what was left of it.

2.Yoda was telekinetically manhandling two Trade Federation Dropships which are hilariously bigger than a Nebulon-B.

3.Kun didn't just shit on the wyrm, he was disintegrating potentially hundreds of Massassi. The text states the rage is from his own heart. Kun has three massive power increases after that.

Rockydonovang
@geistalt
post the blurb, then we can see if has anything to stand on

Geistalt
Doesn't mean he can grind them into dust.

"Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader."

- Legacy of the Force: Invincible

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by AncientPower
1.It wasn't even the entire frigate, but what was left of it.

2.Yoda was telekinetically manhandling two Trade Federation Dropships which are hilariously bigger than a Nebulon-B.
Not to mention he can't dish out that caliber of power in a fight, unless he's going into that fight wanting to die.

Geistalt
Right, which is why Revan's TK feats are holistically better.

DarthAnt66
Starkiller obviously has far more raw power than Revan, but Revan is far better at bringing his power to bear.

On the subject of such, I think one of the main issues with Caedus is his lack of direct showings like Revan has.

Most of his greatest feats in the Force are in the esoteric realm. He has few tremendous telekinetic feats.

AncientPower
Indeed, he's a powerhouse but the opposite of a Kyp Durron.

Geistalt
It's just not as impressive as Alter.

Anyways, according to GL, Knightfall Vader could've beaten Sidious if he hadn't gotten maimed. Doesn't mean he has more Force strength.

AncientPower
Knightfall Vader is unquestionably on par with Sidious and Yoda, both in Canon and Legends. There's no disputing it.

DarthAnt66
thumb up

Geistalt
Well, that whole list is above the 80% of RotJ Sidious mark (what I've often referred to as "the Vader threshold"wink.

Hope you can at least understand how I drew those conclusions. Even if you disagree.

Besides, weaker Force-users take out stronger ones all the time. Just take a look at what Cade did (even though it was, admittedly, a cheap-shot).

Geistalt
A better example would've been the Hero of Tython.

Or Obi-Wan. Or (arguably) Revan.

Geistalt
And, of course, there's Meetra vs. Traya.

Rebel95
Originally posted by AncientPower
Knightfall Vader is unquestionably on par with Sidious and Yoda, both in Canon and Legends. There's no disputing it.
Yup, Lucas said after his injuries he was no longer as strong as Sidious which implies that he was before.

Azronger
The frigate feat has been debunked, yeah.

Geistalt
Originally posted by Rebel95
Yup, Lucas said after his injuries he was no longer as strong as Sidious which implies that he was before. He said "his ability to be twice as good as the Emperor vanished."

Rebel95

Geistalt
Huh. Neat.

Thanks for the information.

Rebel95
thumb up

Geistalt
Originally posted by Azronger
The frigate feat has been debunked, yeah. It was a 300-m frigate, and, while the lower half may have been broken off, it is a fair estimate that the fore half of the Salvation had the mass of a 200-m frigate (if not more).

The ratio of the mass of a 300-meter frigate to that of a 200-meter frigate with the same density is 27:8. Half of that is 13.5:8.

8/13.5=0.5926

In other words, assuming only 60% the "fore half" of the Salvation (which, incidentally, was where the bulk of its mass was) remained, it'd still be bigger than a 200-meter frigate.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Geistalt
It was a 300-m frigate, and, while the lower half may have been broken off, it is a fair estimate that the fore half of the Salvation had the mass of a 200-m frigate (if not more).

The ratio of the mass of a 300-meter frigate to that of a 200-meter frigate with the same density is 27:8. Half of that is 13.5:8.

8/13.5=0.5926

In other words, assuming only 60% the "fore half" of the Salvation (which, incidentally, was where the bulk of its mass was) remained, it'd still be bigger than a 200-meter frigate.

"A trembling shape up and to his left chose that moment to give way, showering molten fragments all along the spine of the ship. The primary array was no great loss: he couldn't have heard anyone anyway over the racket in his ears. But the forward turbolasers and primary sensor unit, the next two chunks to go, were more of a concern... Several lower decks peeled back and were swept away, including the bridge. Most of the short-range array was gone, leaving him with just the base to hold him steady. He clenched his hands into fists and willed the ship to keep going... With a bone-jarring crack, the spine connecting fore and aft sections of the frigate snapped clean through. Starkiller reached out with the Force, trying desperately to keep the two pieces together, but nothing could be done... The fore section he stood upon was going to come down among them, doing a considerable amount of damage in the process."

http://i.imgur.com/ihpNfBK.png

nah.

Geistalt
Now I agree it's as big as a 150-meter frigate (at best).

Thanks for clearing that up.

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Geistalt
...it was better when Ant didn't highlight the part that remained in yellow.

Azronger
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"A trembling shape up and to his left chose that moment to give way, showering molten fragments all along the spine of the ship. The primary array was no great loss: he couldn't have heard anyone anyway over the racket in his ears. But the forward turbolasers and primary sensor unit, the next two chunks to go, were more of a concern... Several lower decks peeled back and were swept away, including the bridge. Most of the short-range array was gone, leaving him with just the base to hold him steady. He clenched his hands into fists and willed the ship to keep going... With a bone-jarring crack, the spine connecting fore and aft sections of the frigate snapped clean through. Starkiller reached out with the Force, trying desperately to keep the two pieces together, but nothing could be done... The fore section he stood upon was going to come down among them, doing a considerable amount of damage in the process."

http://i.imgur.com/ihpNfBK.png

nah.

That image is glorious.

Beniboybling
Quite, it reveals a larger object than any Dooku has even manipulated, let alone obliterated. I luv it. sad

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Geistalt
...it was better when Ant didn't highlight the part that remained in yellow.
What?

Geistalt
The quote from the book.

You started out highlighting the sections on the fore half that broke off in red and the part where the aft half got torn off in blue.

Yellow just isn't as easily legible on KMC.

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